Men make me sad

moodyprism · 2015-05-22T03:51:20+00:00

All men want women. These pathetic guys you speak of have just been taught a really horrible and ineffective strategy. They've been taught the female strategy how women want men to be.

skoobled · 2015-05-22T06:34:34+00:00

It's deeply ingrained into us from an early age that people appreciate "niceness". Just be nice all the time and benefits "surely" follow.

The problem is that people do appreciate niceness, but only in the sense that it makes you a good little push over that happily helps others get what they want.

transientliving · 2015-05-22T07:26:21+00:00

Weak men actually disgust me more than your average conniving, manipulative, tantrum-throwing woman. Women are biologically predisposed towards shitty behaviors unless civilization specifically shames it out of them; while it's not a great excuse, it's a middling one.

But for a man to just eat shit, get willingly cuckolded, and be an overall bitch-boy for decades on end? There's no excuse for that. It's pathetic and at the end of the day they have only themselves to blame for the rich banquet of consequences that awaits them.

What's happening in western civilization right now is the same thing I'm talking about, except writ large. We're sitting down to the banquet of consequences, some of which include the erosion of the bedrock of our laws (see: the utter destruction of the assumption of innocence in rape cases in California.)

I'm a little jaded to it at this point; the only thing that surprises me is that we don't see more guys going on a firebombing spree after getting financially raped in a divorce, or had his reputation and life smashed in a false rape accusation kangaroo court, or whatever else. Instead, we just see the suicide statistics pile up; of course, nobody really gives a shit about dead men, so it doesn't get a lot of coverage.

Discomposure · 2015-05-22T06:16:01+00:00

It could be that these same men did not have a good male role model growing up. Being raised by a beta dad or single mother does that to people.

Username-_-2015 · 2015-05-22T04:32:12+00:00

The biological instinct is difficult to supress sometimes

Reaver362 · 2015-05-22T05:59:28+00:00

I understand what you're saying, man. I have one beta friend in particular that makes me want to throw up with how he is. Depending on how much you care about your friends, it can take a good while to not let it bother you anymore.

JohnnyGameGuy · 2015-05-22T11:03:00+00:00

Friend, don't feel sad. Every man serves a purpose in society. Instead, be happy that these men are filling the roles that society depends on to keep the gears turning. It would be a messy world if all men were unplugged. It is each and every man's own responsibility to find the red pill, so don't preach ever.

When you are out there, don't condemn people for not being red pill. Stop thinking of red pill all the time. Focus your energy on being a likable guy. Appreciate people for filling roles that you wouldn't want to fill.

An alpha man is a guy who is noticeably confident, who knows how to have a good time. In turn, he is able to make others feel good about meeting him, leader traits. The red pill is about self improvement, you want to be the Alpha, a leader, not just the douche bag that just bangs a dudes wife because he knows the game. It's not about hate. You know the game.

Being the nice guy sucks for betas because they have an agenda. To get pussy. Being unplugged means you can be the awesome guy who is confident and likable who doesn't have an agenda when making people around him feel good.

If you ever are judgmental, even if you are trying to hide it, you won't be likable. You will come of as fake and a douche bag. People will sense that you internally feel superior. Your comment has such rage behind it that I can only assume I wouldn't like to hang out with you. Stop feeling disgust. Get over it, accept this is the way it is. Smile and appreciate people for filling these roles and make sure you are the best guy on top! Don't be stuck in the rage phase.

Next time you go out, smile and accept the world. Give a beta a high five and compliment his outfit. If you wanna change the guy, do it by being an example, a leader, an alpha.

synthrockftw · 2015-05-22T08:21:28+00:00

Like I've always said..

Women have become savages, men have become pussies..

The world needs men to run society uninterrupted as it was decades ago. I do want equality amongst the sexes but this modern society we live in today simply isn't effective.

Men are no longer men. They have become tools.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-05-22T11:51:16+00:00

Our Post-Feminist Reality

I live in a small town with people that still have some grasp of reality so my observations skew favorably towards Red Pill.

My guess is that about 50% of men are vaguely "aware" Feminism is upside down and screwed up. Breaking that down further I'd guess that 25% (within the 50%) are actively Red Pill in thought even if they are unaware of the online sub.

So the Post-Feminist reality does exist, but there are still a lot of minds to awaken.

Be patient... the Misandry Bubble will collapse... eventually...

asdfghjkltyu · 2015-05-22T11:35:31+00:00

I don't think the men you mention have any real expectations of these women getting with them. They just get a temporary high from doing nice things for women so they keep doing it. The thrill of women even acknowledging them for some men is such an unusual thrill.

CowardlyPetrov · 2015-05-22T13:16:02+00:00

It's because they have been raised to be pussies.

goodgame_sir · 2015-05-22T16:28:10+00:00

When you have a growing number of fatherless men who grow up with all this guilt as they were brainwashed with the idea that they're an evil nazi monster oppressor just because they're male.. of course you'll get people like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVz_ej7wS98

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhmOx0zThGg

APookIsAPook · 2015-05-22T08:39:27+00:00

Growing up in this society, a BP mindset is the default. Most men do not grow up with the male role models they need to adopt the RP mentality.

RP is definitely the exception in my experience.

silvertongue35 · 2015-05-22T06:17:00+00:00

If you're far enough along in your own TRP journey, and you feel comfortable doing so, then reach out to someone you see that fits the description in your post and help them change their life.

Remember, you can only show them the door, it's up to them to go through it.

yaardi · 2015-05-22T09:25:35+00:00

What really bothers me is their inability to see what's happening around them. I was pretty much a super beta loser growing up, no real success with girls, no alpha father or uncle to teach me stuff, trying the crappy things I've seen in movies, the whole deal, BUT little by little I started observing what successful (alpha) men do and what beta non-successful men do and how women actually react to these things. Not what they say, but what they do. I saw the confidence, the cocky jokes, I also saw the putting on the pedestal and the constant compliments and I started to see how all that works. Sure, it took me some time to figure everything by myself, but hey, if I can see that, why can't they? Why do they insist on trying the same thing over and over again when they see it doesn't work?

Mr_Get_Right · 2015-05-22T13:07:21+00:00

I'm baffled by the lack of ambition towards slaying pussy in the men around me. I suggest to my friends that we get out of our comfort zone and they just want to play video games. The one's that have girlfriends don't see the red flags (like outright saying they wanted to fuck their friends). And the absolute inability, the complete and total powerlessness to set boundaries or say no to a woman because "she'll get mad".

Fuck.

pennypuptech · 2015-05-22T14:30:56+00:00

I have a friend who just had a child.

All but dissapeared, yes, infants take a lot of care and effort. But this started a long time ago. What gets me the most is that she uses her recent delivery (2 months now) to weasel him in to staying at home. But wait, if she wants to go do something, or it's something her pals are doing, she's up immediately and expects him to take care of the child.

He's:

Missing a good mutual friend's wedding because she 'refuses to take care of the child on her birthday weekend'... her birthday is during the week.
Most likely miss my bachelor party, 3 months from now, because she "needs help" despite having a nearby sister and two nearby parents.
Is now waffling on my wedding party.

To loop this back around... I'm sad. I'm sad he doesn't have the balls to stand up to this lady. I've seen him verbally abused in front of us, and he just sits there and takes it. She is the captain of the ghost ship. He's a great guy, but he's just like some of the chumps you talk about here. It hurts to see my good buddies whimper to the will of their ladies, and so willing to throw their desired-life behind.

No way I go through my life that way.

arcterex117 · 2015-05-22T18:25:45+00:00

Never underestimate the power of the culture. Our conscious decisions are often the outward manifestations of our subconscious impressions of reality that are constantly shaped by television, movies, magazines. It just so happens the controlled media has an Agenda when it comes to feminism. So when the narrative is that women are 'victims' and men victimize them and all men are somehow responsible for what a tiny sliver of criminals do to women (and that 'good men' need to step up), and there is no highly-visible counter narrative, the male mind is already primed to come to a woman's defense no matter what. It is not always about getting sex out of it. It is about a person's deeply-held sense of "right and wrong"; once upon a time that was shaped by the Church, today it is largely influenced by the life scripts by the entertainment and media world.

Without red pill awareness, the average male has no firewall against the barrage of behavioral conditioning he is subject to out there in the real world. True hypnotism does not happen on the spot & in real-time; it is done ahead of time. It is the gradual alignment of the mind towards a pre-determined outcome so that when the individual forsakes his own well-being for another, he sees it as entirely part of his free will. Our insidious culture is full of this. When we wrest it out of the hands of the usurpers is anyone's guess.

-Real_Nword- · 2015-05-22T11:11:05+00:00

it's sad when a child hood friend is one of these men.. tried to get him to unplug but i failed. i guess there's nothing i can do about it. reminds me of this quote by morpheus

"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

basedbobby · 2015-05-22T12:55:45+00:00

I don't mind. They can take her out to eat, pay for her meals, drive her from x to y at 2am, and do many favors for her and she will still end up in my bed. Hopefully they get tired of that shit and learn. In the meantime I don't have to pick up this one girl who doesn't drive so we're good

Kyuzo_ · 2015-05-22T14:45:35+00:00

The guys you're talking about are scabs, basically.

BetterBadIdeas · 2015-05-22T14:57:26+00:00

Why? because it's what literal lifetimes of TV, film, books, advertisements, print media, and female teachers and family members have told them to do.

JimHarding · 2015-05-22T16:24:14+00:00

I think it's not that simple. The way I was raised I was always nervous and super cautious around girls when I was younger. A lot of these people don't even see how they act, they just behave. I was seeing a girl for example when I was younger that I would give the most cringeworthy notes to, flowers, gifts all the time etc because I thought that's what men are suppose to do to "win" girls. At the time I didn't even think anything of it, it literally doesn't cross your mind with the wrong mindset that your being silly. Looking back I just laugh at myself. Once you start putting yourself on an equal playing field you start seeing all the stupid stuff you did, but at the time you don't realize it, it's not like people always knowingly act like a chump.

Merica911 · 2015-05-22T19:31:33+00:00

A lot of men operate from scarcity because they're single. That's why spinning plates is a must.

herewehoagain · 2015-05-22T20:32:39+00:00

I had a 27 year old man jokingly call me a mysogynist yesterday. Unless you're saying, "mysogynist is a dumb term" I think you are pathetic. So many weak fucking men I don't get it I'm a novelty in some circles for my "1950s thinking."

football1010 · 2015-05-22T20:35:28+00:00

There is nothing wrong with using an emoticon in a text as long as you're not coming off like a little bitch.

Yakatonker · 2015-05-23T03:11:14+00:00

OP, its the economics of the male perspective. Just as women feel no remorse for useless men because of their biological perspective, so do most men not care to "degrade" themselves for a chance of perceived reproduction, because that's what vagina is in terms of end game.

Pretty vagina is a severe biological deficiency in men, a system that benefited the species well into the present technological era which allowed women to extract resources from men to raise children. However things have changed because the technology of present freed us from old castes/social molds that once were essential pillars of economic stability. We're much smarter then generations of past thanks to the internet, and the sheer amount of information we're absorbing on a daily basis. New ideals and a new collective male perspective are forming, not just here on TRP but all around, things inherent to the male perspective are becoming reality in the physical world. That means this ideation that we shouldn't economically castrate our relationships, personal economy for pussy from degenerate females who're severely, intellectually deficient is becoming a new thing. However this is still a minority opinion as most men are still plugged into Gynocentrism, pussy worship, etc.

Doesn't help society's given most men a false framework of the world, one where we here are jail breaked, however there is still much work to be done to unplug the rest of the slaves who're plugged into Gynocentrism.

vashbrownees · 2015-05-23T03:33:00+00:00

Its just brainwashing and sticking to a worldview without applying any critical thinking...there are people like this for many different philosophies and religions

SwissPablo · 2015-05-23T12:17:32+00:00

I was the classic frustrated nice guy, wondering why what I'd been taught wasn't working. But In my work I've found that if you don't mind pissing off some people, you can get what you want. That goes to women too. Be prepared to disagree with them, annoy them, allow them to not have to like you.

TruckerJohn · 2015-05-23T14:30:24+00:00

I agree completely, but ELI5 what your problem with emoticons is.

f3yleaf · 2015-05-25T03:29:42+00:00

Dont care anymore, just wanna fuck, do jujitsu and play putergames, more beta's = less competition, raw dogging some beta hipsters GF/wife is a huge turn-on to me, its almost turning into a fetish. This particular liberal does not give a fuck, freedom of oppotunity is great, beta's wasting their oppotunities is not my concern.

wasthereadogwithyou · 2015-05-31T18:59:33+00:00

Females have great power over men. It goes beyond they're taking advantage of men with low self-esteem, or sky-high libidos. It's more like the way that a mother goose protects her young- she's programmed to do it. Likewise, men are programmed to protect and provide for women, whether they like it or not. These men that you write about are just following their instinct- the instinct to serve women, even if it only leads to being thrown away like a banana peel. I've no more contempt for them than I do for a dog that follows its nose. However, these men are like birds that fly south for the winter, when the wilderness to which they migrate has been deforested, and the lakes have dried up- they yield to instinct, even if it means their own destruction, simply because they don't know any other way. Far from resenting them, I pity them. I pity myself, too, because the old forest is gone, and all I have to replace it is a pill.

rpscrote · 2015-05-22T16:21:55+00:00

Feminists, male and female, should take my Bleach Challenge. I put brand name Clorox in one, and Walmart brand generic chlorine bleach in the other. Then, the feminist has to tell me if she can taste the difference. Everyone wins.

nemaxofredpill · 2015-05-22T18:00:06+00:00

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. - The Bible is Red PIll as Fuck

SonOfJupiter · 2015-05-22T14:50:00+00:00

I used to think like that as well, but then I thought 'fuck it, less competition for me'.

JeanValjean197o · 2015-05-23T03:45:20+00:00

I don't feel for betas or any of those white knight fuckers. I was one of them at one time.

They get what they deserve.

I fully acknowledge that our society does it's best to feminize men and make them more like women, but every man is the architect of his happiness or unhappiness.

There is a wealth of information and these guys reject it because they are stuck in the feminist paradigm.

Fuck 'em. To pity them is to enable them. They don't deserve sympathy. They deserve to be shamed and held up as an example of what not to be and what not to do.

Everything that we do here in the manosphere is making a difference. The fact that it even has a name shows that it has made a difference. What were we 10 or 15 years ago? A blip on the radar. Completely unknown. Now there are hundreds of sites all over the world talking and studying and sharing knowledge.

Things are changing. Not fast enough for me though and that's why I'm here. I'm not going to march with MHRA's to get laws passed that I know won't ever be passed. Society despises weak men and men who can't keep their wives and children are weak men. The only way men have ever gotten change was with a gun or sword in his hand.

And the MGTOW's have the right of it but I can't live like that anymore. Angry all the time, alone, and empty. I want to enjoy my life. I want to fuck bitches, jump out of planes, drive my car fast, and be what deep down I've always felt I should be.

And if I find that special snowflake then maybe I'll keep her or maybe I'll be killed on my motorcycle.

It is what it is. That's my motto from now on.

RPSigmaStigma · 2015-05-22T03:51:22+00:00

Congrats on being better than everyone else. So jelly.

Title	Men make me sad
Author	moose_war
Upvotes	137
Comments	118
Date	May 22, 2015 3:43 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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