Needy Behaviour in Moderate Amounts Acts as a Cockblocker

Rollo_Mayhem3 · 2018-09-23T03:15:06+00:00

They will justify either way. Why are you looking at things from her frame. When you have plates, abundance, and confidence, you don't care, you keep moving. If a girl is into you and you bang her good, she'll be around...if not, go get another one.

Thotwrecker · 2018-09-23T08:41:25+00:00

As a general rule of thumb, you can't stop a girl from riding the CC, and you sure as shit can't stop her from riding the CC with texts, and you doubly-sure as shit can't stop her from riding the CC with beta needy texts.

You are still in the frame of policing a woman's fidelity. This is a bad frame, not simply because it's beta, but because women are essentially children who want to do the thing they aren't supposed to do. They want what they are not getting - you provide emotional sustenance and comfort and attention, they have it from you. You are successful in the sense of maybe you can make her not want as much from her typical beta orbiters (but of course understand, you are not plugging her need for dick, you're plugging her need for validation and attention.

I get what you are saying, and it's a common idea around here - it's the "well if I'm too alpha she will feel neglected and go out and search for another dude who will give her more. Why don't I act beta too".

But see, you are acting beta all the time. A beta male going through the motions of TRP behaviors is communicating a plethora of beta traits too, so by essentially trying to at least behave like an alpha (ie, behave like you're too busy to check your phone every 5 minutes, don't validate her over text, etc) you are more likely to be on the right side of the equilibrium.

Generally, the problem is a lack of alpha behavior, not a lack of beta behavior. For example, girl is into you, you didn't make a move, you go to the bathroom, girl leaves with other dude. The problem is you didn't caveman the girl right then and there - if she is horny and giving you signs, make it sexual, escalate, take a risk.

But let's talk about the last point, because it's important for TRP to understand how girls fidelity works - the only way girls get off the CC in their prime is if you are high value enough for them to suffer FOMO for. That's it, that's the only way. No little bitch "reminders" that you are "there for her" are going to stop her when she's got better option. Women care about what's in front of them right now, it's the options they have right now - right in the moment, she's out in the club with her girls, there's a cool musician dude wanting to take her back home, do drugs with her, and have unprotected sex. And she gets a beep like "hey bae thinking of you, hit me back when you get this".

The musician has real, immediate value and there is opportunity cost to not going with him - ie, he probably fucks someone else that night, she doesn't get him, that's the end of that avenue. (Replace musician with random chode with decent game and a porsche, it doesn't matter - that dude is not an option if she doesn't fuck now, he's scarce). Meanwhile, you have just communicated to her 'hey baby, I'm here whenever, you don't have to worry about me because if you ghost me for a few days and hit me up, chances are I'll be still into you and down to date." So what's the opportunity cost to going back with local musician to check out some records? Zero, zilch, no opportunity cost, you're a fixed commodity that is there tomorrow.

Girls will justify anything if they want it badly enough, and if a guy is higher value, your text idea is only cementing in her mind that there's no real downside to going for it. She feels your neediness and it pushes her towards the other guy, by further enforcing that you're a dork and he's the forbidden candy.

All in all, you are not cockblocked by girls "other option", all girls that are above like a 4 have another option. Even 4s have multiple "other options" they just aren't great options. Girls typically always try to get the best option they can get, and in fact, girls would 99 out of 100 times would rather go for a very slim / no chance option - ie some dude they know will never commit because he's way too high value for her. The ONLY solution is to try to be an option that is out of her reach - because if you are just out of her reach, she will dump her beta options like potatoes to try to be pumped and dumped by you. It's all SMV, nothing else really matters, and generally attempts to manage women away from their hypergamous tendencies backfire hilariously. Most cucks wind up being cucked through insecure / controlling behaviors (like this strategy of yours) that ultimately reinforce in her mind that you're lower value than her other option.

A better strategy would be learning to not GAF about girls "other option" and just assume it's always there, and if she's fucking you and making herself sexually available to you whenever you want, you're the "best option" - until another comes along.

LucidCunning · 2018-09-23T08:30:02+00:00

" In some cases I've even exited the club with the girl but then suddenly she hits the breaks before getting into taxi after reading some messages or having a conversation with "someone" "

I can't tell you how many times I've pulled out my phone and pretended I was using it just for image points or to get our of an awkward situation. If she's getting these "messages" last minute, there's a good chance she's a skillful pretender who is using her phone as a prop to get out of a situation while totally saving face. The truth is, if she wants to get on your cock, NO MESSAGE WILL STOP HER. Remember that.

TheBattlingBastard · 2018-09-23T03:31:22+00:00

Who cares go get another women problem solved...you don’t have time to be constantly monitoring women bro it’s a waste of time get your nut and get out

dani098 · 2018-09-23T03:37:49+00:00

you have a really good point. Not that I would go and out right uses as a method to keep a girl around.. But you have a good point

D_Sandstorm · 2018-09-23T06:56:51+00:00

Fairly new to RP and I think you have a decent point but I don't think this theory makes much sense for someone who is RP'd. Sure you can message a girl more but doesn't that mean you submit more to her frame? Also, why would you have to cockblock? I think if you follow RP theory, you'd know that you being with her is just your turn.

Title	Needy Behaviour in Moderate Amounts Acts as a Cockblocker
Author	Zech4riah
Upvotes	30
Comments	26
Date	September 23, 2018 3:01 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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