Red Despair

2016-01-25T09:43:31+00:00

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AfterC · 2016-01-25T14:45:54+00:00

I can state, with certainty, that sleeping with women becomes a positive feedback cycle. Get the one, and it snowballs. The longer you've been at it, the less getting a number, making out, or fucking matters.

And eventually, your problems supersede it entirely.

MachoMonk · 2016-01-25T09:34:54+00:00

Damn I'm 18 and I'm just committed to keeping a goal oriented lifestyle. When you don't talk to people for a month and you suddenly have lost weight and put on muscle they think your some kind of god. If I can f close random sloot then by all means i will . I'm not looking for plates until my SMV can afford fine china, which mean's i will wait till I have my own place, I'm shredded and I'm only going up.

EDIT: I should prolly include the fact that I'm not socially awkward and i have a wide range of friends and a network on my campus. By monk mode i mean that I cut off anything that isn't helping my goals. I"m still 50 pounds overweight and my biggest goal is to be fit, so I could care less about going to a shitty party and drinking keystone light till i puke

punkrock_101 · 2016-01-25T14:41:55+00:00

That main post the guy submitted the other day is being taken the wrong way.

He wasn't saying "Bahaa it isn't fair I can't get laid". He was stating the fact that while every guy wants to get laid, most don't. He was talking about society as a whole.. Not just himself.

Like I remember when I was say 13/14 (before I lost my virginity) and assumed in my early to mid 20s I would be getting laid. Because that's what everyone assumed young adults do regularly - have sex.

The post the other day refers to how hard that has become for the average guy compared to previous generations.

neverendingplush · 2016-01-25T12:08:10+00:00

I myself am guilty of this presently, and I slowly have become to realize I've been hamstring myself to no end. Yes I've put in the muscle, yes I've got money to spend, yes I've got the clothes. But i'm utterly terrified of asserting my desires and being sexually comfortable with women. I have this self-ingrained feeling of not being good enough for anyone, that keeps me from straight slaughtering pussy. I've had bitches walk up to me and tell me how fit I am, and buy me drinks, pay for my dinners and what not , only for me to go home cause I thought they were fucking with me. doesn't matter how fucking" redpill" or how much fucking knowledge you have, unless you put thoughts to reality, it mine as well have never been acquired because it isn't tangible.

Archwinger · 2016-01-25T15:26:05+00:00

A lot of people keep doing the same old shit, but just sprinkle a little TRP on top. A shit sundae with sprinkles doesn't taste like chocolate.

CaptainGloom · 2016-01-25T09:55:38+00:00

Hear hear, good post. Many of the complainers also don't practice speaking to people and being at ease, they think they can jump the gun.

Valentinus9171 · 2016-01-25T11:46:28+00:00

The Tao te Ching said it best "to overcome others is strength, to overcome yourself is true power." Those that are complaining are trying to impose their will upon others to make them orbit their center. But the center is weak and petty and so they achieve nothing. Those who have overcome themselves become stars and the women are but planets. They radiate will, vision and power. And the women flock to orbit then. The alphas are naturally the second group and of course we do have our own issues. Namely nihilism, we have seen Truth created our version of reality and imposed it on that once powerful being that is woman. Further we see how petty our peers are getting married and/or orbiting some greatly flawed woman. Life is meaningless when you are a star, because you are the source of life and meaning.

RedPill4LYF · 2016-01-25T18:37:31+00:00

There is no denying that the vast majority of women in the west, so to speak, simply know that dick itself is basically free. It's because of PC culture. Men are indoctrinated not to value themselves or their own sexuality in any way comparable to the value of women and their sexuality. Defining PC culture can be a real challenge if you want to cover every aspect of why it is what it is, but I think it can be distilled accurately enough to a simple equation.

PC = F > M

This has created the far too pervasive perception that men have to jump through hoops in order to even be considered for pussy in the minds of women. Not just the good looking women, even the least appealing women imaginable display this mentality. That's how deeply this indoctrination process has penetrated and perverted our culture prior to Feminism. We may not have had absolute equality before, but when America was really still a democratic republic, the equation looked a hell of a lot more balanced.

DR = M ≈ F

It's really no wonder why men who find TRP would despair. Game is not a method for healing these hideously broken minds, it's just a means for checkmating hypergamy to gain access to sex. It's basically Feminism for men, or Meninism if you will. What it doesn't solve is restoring trust and love, which is ultimately what blue pill men want. In fact, it just makes matters worse because now red pilled men aren't interested in restoring sanity, they're just adding to the depravity promoting a mentality completely opposite of the Feminazis.

RP = M > F

Women are paying attention to the manosphere, and obviously a lot of them aren't interested in letting men collectively take back any of the ground that has been stolen from them by Feminism. If you don't think they are paying attention and incorporating this knowledge into modern dating advice for women, you're dreaming.

I think there are plenty of women in the Feminist movement who should pay for their sins against humanity, but I'm not going stand by and watch society collapse because either way, the marxists win. Right now, TRP is big enough that I'm sure if we pulled our collective resources together, we could defeat the PC narrative, one venue at a time.

Donald Trump has proven that many people are fed the fuck up with PC garbage being shoved down their throats. Trump isn't the answer though, it's us. If we made a coordinated effort to point people in the direction of uniting against the indoctrination machine now, it has a very good chance of working.

RealRational · 2016-01-25T23:21:50+00:00

Getting sex from women is fundamentally important for the development of boys into men, no, this is NOT a shallow thing. This is primal, this is nature, this is in our very DNA.

Posts lamenting the modern sexual marketplace are understandable, it sucks. Everything OP said is true and a lot of guys in here have applied TRP in theory, but have incorrectly assumed that making it reality in their own minds, for their own understanding will make it reality in the real world. It will not. Theory and practical application are polar opposites.

I'm actually pretty surprised the OP didn't even mention Men Go Their Own Way.

Look, if you want to spin plates you need to have already developed and established vast resources, not only in money but in terms of self development. You're 6ft, athletic and get good grades? Lol, ok, I'm 6'4", athletic and have more skills than can even be listed with a 10,000 character limit. I'm experienced, well dressed, articulate and when I walk into a room every single female looks my way.

To be blunt, if we're in the same place you aren't getting laid that night. At least not by the hottest chick there, or her friends.

Note: This situation could be used to your advantage, even illiciting my support, if you've practiced your social skills and reached the point where you can dance around at different levels of social hierarchy and developed the confidence necessary to look natural floating in and out of different "clicks" in a social situation.

How did I get this way? Well, when I was in high school I didn't go out and "party", I was reading, learning, and WORKING! That's right, I started working 50+ hours/week when I was 14. I started lifting weights when I was 12. I've had over a DECADE to improve myself and build resources that I can use to further obtain my goals.

Success breeds success, this is true professionally, with women, with friends, with everything.

There is a definite limit on how much resources you should be willing to put towards women, just understand that the more you are putting towards them the less goes towards yourself.

First, if you're under 25 you shouldn't be trying to spin plates, that's ridiculous. Either you were born to be "that guy" or you weren't, nothing you can do about it under 25.

Second, the longer you can put off the pursuit of women the longer you can remain solely focused on your own self improvement. It is in your own long term interests to NEVER put more energy into women than they are putting into you.

I was essentially MGTOW my entire life up to 25, I had sex occasionally but that was really just circumstantial, I had no game. I got the "tall guy" sex that just falls in your lap when you're over 6' and surrounded by drunk horny girls. Seriously, didn't do a damn thing, they escalated at every step of the encounter. This means that I never put any energy into women, which was good cause it meant I could remain wholly focused on self improvement. But this also meant that I had no experience "gaming" women, so as I got older and those situations where sex just fell into my lap got more and more rare I had to develop game.

This is where putting at least SOME energy into "game" at a young age could be a good idea.

TL:DR NEVER invest resources (time, energy) into women to the point that it is a detriment to ANY of your other goals. Professional or personal.

AT A MINIMUM!!!!!

Self improvement should be your top priority above all else until you are AT LEAST 25 years old. This means money isn't your top priority, neither is status nor sex nor fun nor anything else. Improve yourself!

How do I improve myself, get out of your comfort zone as much as you possibly can without pushing so hard you die, or become permanently disabled.

New experiences, new places, new challenges, READ, for the love of all that's good in this world READ! Give 2 hours towards reading AT LEAST for every hour you spend in the gym. Spend no less than 5 hours/week in the gym.

Meat-on-the-table · 2016-01-25T09:57:04+00:00

A lot of this simply has to do with people being impatient. All change takes time; you're not going to undo decades of conditioning in a month here. Keep improving yourself, follow your passions, make women an option, not a priority.

Most importantly, know what it is specifically that you want. Complaining about not getting sex is vague. Knowing what you are truly after allows you to gauge your progress. "Getting sex" is nebulous at best. Find your tempo.

2016-01-25T12:17:07+00:00

Thanks for this. All this hamstring reminds me of that Ronnie Coleman quote about bodybuilding, but slightly paraphrased:

Everybody wants to be an alpha, but don't nobody want to actually improve themselves.

2016-01-25T14:11:24+00:00

Try being in a small town going to a community college. Fuck all chance at getting fucked from girls you meet IRL. Tinder is my only best bet.

RedAsBlood · 2016-01-25T14:59:36+00:00

Couldn't agree more.

I highly doubt those guys have even read the sidebar. They are just looking for validation for their hamsters.

Somone who actually swallowed the pill wouldn't be whining that its so hard to get laid.

Those threads aren't even asktrp quality. The fact that they got so highly upvotes is kind of sad.

--SLUT_SLAYER-- · 2016-01-25T15:42:34+00:00

College offers some of the easiest sex you will ever get. Put yourself in the right situations and it won't be an issue.

But these youngsters are missing the point.

Women are a HOBBY. TRP is a small part of your lifestyle.

Your high-school and college years are critical times when you can reap exponential rewards for your efforts compared to adulthood.

Your time in the gym will build more muscle with far less effort. Your diet will be more forgiving.

Most importantly, your efforts to get good grades, and get into a good school with a full ride scholarship will determine your overall power later in life. I can't stress how important it is to get into a high paying career in a good field.

You can be the buffest, baddest pick up artist in the world and never come close to the power that a nerdy heart surgeon has over women. Unfortunately, that guy will marry the first pageant queen that finds him. You don't have that weakness if you've been on this sub.

rakov · 2016-01-25T17:47:53+00:00

Yes, yes it is very diffucult to get laid. "difficult" doesn't mean "impossible", "difficult" means "requiring a huge load of effort and will". Of course, one can get it by becoming more alpha. But I'd rather stay virgin in my 23, being in my comfort zone and playing games all day, than spend months on gym, work, learning to communicate, and other stuff I hate with all soul. Sex just really isn't worth it.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2016-01-25T18:33:46+00:00

http://therationalmale.com/2014/09/29/a-new-hope/

The key to living in a red pill context is to unlearn your blue pill expectations and dreams of finding contentment in them, and replace them with expectations and aspirations based on realistic understandings of red pill truths.

Learn this now, you will never achieve contentment or emotional fulfillment in a blue pill context with red pill awareness.

Killing your inner Beta is a difficult task and part of that is discarding an old, comfortable, blue pill paradigm. For many newly unplugged, red pill aware, men the temptation is to think they can use this new understanding to achieve the goal-states of their preconditioned blue pill ideals. What they don’t understand is that, not only are these blue pill goal-states flawed, but they are also based on a flawed understanding of how to attain them.

iLLprincipLeS · 2016-01-25T11:04:23+00:00

The only people who have sex in high school are those , who are in an LTR.

HOLY FUCK

How many of you actually believe this?

RedPillJax · 2016-01-25T12:25:31+00:00

The only people who have sex in high school are those , who are in an LTR.

Not at all true. When I was in high school (2002 - 2006) I had many, many ONS and 'fuck buddies' by Grade 12. Considering I lost my virginity in Grade 10 (IIRC) and graduated with a kill count of 20 - 25 or so, there was a lot of fuckin' going on.

Mind you, I wasn't King Shit of Bangin' Mountain or anything, I was a moderately popular, pretty okay looking guy. There were guys getting laid far more than me. This was a normal North American high school, and girls weren't especially trashy or anything.

I don't disagree with the rest of your post, I'd just stop well short of saying girls in high school 'only' have sex in LTR's - but I do agree trying to actually 'spin plates' in tenth grade probably isn't going to work out well. You need to have some actual experience with relationships before you can start modifying the rules on them to suit your ends.

MaseWindew · 2016-01-25T09:42:13+00:00

This is a good reminder. Yes society is fucked up blah blah. However you control your life and you're solely responsible for what happens to it. Sure you'll fail but once you try everything, you'll know what works for you and what doesn't. Keep improving until you get what you want. It's good to be aware of issues surrounding us but bitching and moaning won't remove them. So will it be you admit defeat or actually try improving in the environment that everyone else lives in also?

2016-01-25T10:22:57+00:00

This is why you need to do the inner work and stop looking at everything as a technique. Not having an identity shift makes obtaining these lofty goals some of you guys have exhausting

PUA_Wanna_be · 2016-01-25T13:21:46+00:00

while you are young and in your teens , spinning plates is not the brightest option. I believe being exclusive for a while could be the potential answer , also you gain experience from it and get to see how things work inside an LTR

It has also another huge benefit: It allows you to gain confidence and skills in bed.

the_Zambony · 2016-01-25T15:05:45+00:00

Numerous posts about the immense difficulty to get laid and how modern-society is to be blamed

"...has led me to this sorry fate, and yet I blame society, society is what made me what I am."

"That's bullshit. You're a white suburban punk, just like me."

2016-01-25T15:54:56+00:00

Senior in high school now. Been reading RP for a year and a half, and lifting heavy for the same time 6 days a week. I was in a LTR for my sophomore and junior year, and all senior year ive been spinning plates so far. There is sex in highschool, you just have to look better and be better than all the other males at your school. Id say as being a senior plating underclassmen is easy because just being a senior is a higher social status.

Just make your fucking intentions clear, if you want to spin plates while in highschool. Or else these bitches will destroy your image faster than you can imagine.

verify_account · 2016-01-25T18:30:14+00:00

You are in HIGH SCHOOL.

This so much. You're not even done growing physically. You're just a kid and while we're glad you're adopting the red pill early you're not going to be able to apply most of what you're learning, and frankly your FR are not very useful.

2016-01-25T19:33:06+00:00

All I can think of is that, by answering these sort of bullshit questions, we're only feeding this habit of not experiencing things, not being under pressure and react by instinct, or even worse, not taking a fraction of a second to use some grey matter for a change, and analyze the situation.

There's a lot of questions that actually ask for opinions based on past experiences and so, and these are usually productive, but I'm sick of the "Got a number, what should I do?" ones.

awalt_cupcake · 2016-01-25T21:03:08+00:00

Plenty of people fucked in my highschool. This is just some feel-good bullshit and we don't need to weaken our new members on here.

Truth is: Sluts are sluts in highschool. Everyone wants to fuck. Are you fucking? If not, you're not desirable (or you said no you idiot). Are you fucking? Congratulations keep fucking. Fuck her friends. Don't bother with LTRs. Never get married. Enjoy the decline.

nuffsaiddoe · 2016-01-25T22:46:40+00:00

I'm 25 and for the first time in my life i can honestly say i have a bullpen that is going to be around for the foreseeable future. With age comes experience.

smthsmth · 2016-01-26T03:42:12+00:00

my fault is that for any woman i'm interested in there are 5 guys way more attrative than me who are also interested in her. with a shit ton of effort for a few years, assuming i don't stall or quit during that time, i might be able to beat out one or two of them (also assuming they're not doing the same thing).

FattiesMakeMeGag · 2016-01-26T05:00:47+00:00

I understand that there is more opportunities to have sex when you're older, but I think it depends on the person. I have no problem having sex. Not to brag, but me and my other friend average fucking around 3-4 new girls a month. If you get invited out by people it shouldn't be that hard. I also feel like you shouldn't hang out with betas. The people you hangout with reflect who you are. I'm 19, hit the gym, 6 ft tall, good looking kid, outgoing, and nice to everyone. But the people I hang out with and are my good friends are people who represent me. I don't feel embarrassed to introduce them to girls or anyone for that matter. They're similar to me as they spin plates and don't think of getting into relationships. We also think AWALT even though I don't think they read TRP. Also please don't fuck beasts, that only makes you look bad and desperate.

Luckyluke23 · 2016-01-26T06:19:57+00:00

The first thing that strikes me about these posts is that the OPs begin with attempts to "hamster" why they are not getting sex and how you just can't get it if you're not Bill Gates. And then they add that they are a good looking 7 or 8 out of 10 , six feet tall , athletic but just fail at getting sex. Well I guess you are doing something wrong.

you don't need to write any more man, the second I read the dude is 6'4 and athletic and not getting laid, it's LIKE, HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT GETTING LAID!?

you make a good post man and it needed to be said. why are these guys even doing this? it's EASY to get laid. Just do what TRP teaches and if you do it long enough and make it to a high enough skill, you will get laid.

if you are sitting there complaining about it, YOU HAVEN'T PUT IN ENOUGH WORK TO GET LAID! i know kids who get laid and they are NOTHING SPECIAL. so you can do it to.

take it from a 5'9 overweight hunchback like me, if i can get laid, YOU AIN'T PUTTING IN THE WORK! STOP COMPLAINING AND WORK!

Govedo13 · 2016-01-28T19:39:09+00:00

The OP needs some reality checks.

Personally I can fuck every 5-6/10 out there without even trying to pull any effort. Hell I bet most of us can roll up a queue of 5-6 new ugly fatties in just under a week. However this makes no sense in the larger scheme of things. Currently I prefer 2 or 3 serious plates that look good enough and are fun enough.

Because the OP thinks it is not possible to get a lot of sex at early age I have a short story/FR for him.

Background: 10 Days 3 unknown girls- 16 years old me with minimal experience (1 girl) before that:

Body: When I was in school 14 years ago I went on a summer vacation with my school and two other schools. I was 16 then. On a first night I managed to hook up with a girl from the next class and finger her+ getting some badly preformed blow-jobs. On day 2 up to 3 she tried to boyfriend me, told me that the was virgin and I was her first one opening her with my fingers, she was shy and not so interesting for me. On day 5 I managed to hook up with a girl from the other schools, she was better looking and more experienced in bed. On the last day 10 I was approached by a girlfriend of girl N2, got her number and fucked her two days later when we went back home.

Lessons Learned: Now this sounds like bragging/too good to be true and not real story right?

Well you need to have the background in back it up. So here are the facts:

I and my buddy, that I shared a room with on that vacation, were swimmers, we were well known in the school for winning competitions. We had good bodies and got weed and alcohol packed for the trip. Also my father was/is wealthy so I also had ton of cash to spend, was well dressed and groomed. I even had a personal mobile phone (this was quite rare and expensive back then) compared to the others. Another important fact-all women are a lot more willing to fuck you when they are out of their casual environment.

So those facts allowed me to score on girl 1 on first night. The fact that only I scored something on night 1 gave me a huge advantage, as the others said - it snowballed..

If I hadn't the rest would not be possible to happen. Pre-selection is real. Women prefer to share alpha male instead of having beta monkey. The rest is quite simple- the frame was set and the results followed.

tgeda · 2016-01-25T14:33:40+00:00

When I read those posts I realize why the game is so fucked up. A buncha desperate thirsty ass dudes out here, eating a bitches ass-hole on the first date cus they havent been laid in 3 years.

.. now she expects me to do that shit =0

times is rough for a playa.

Red Despair

Stop.

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Title	Red Despair
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Date	January 25, 2016 9:12 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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