Regarding recent influx of beta posts.

redpillschool · 2016-08-31T19:20:35+00:00

No concern trolling.

NightwingTRP · 2016-08-31T12:43:26+00:00

I think mods should strictly filter bluepill content. It's a sin to lead the bluepill beginner males in the wrong direction.

They already do this. However there's a fine line to prevent TRP becoming a complete echo chamber that is devoid of any ability to evolve. It is the very open nature of debate and discussion here which has had the sub evolve and grow, allowing guys here across the board to grow as men too. As a result the rules are broad and while blatant blue pill thoughts will be deleted, something which isn't red pill can still get through. One of the biggest problems we have here is the lack of nuance some guys show for the difference between what is alpha and what is red pill alpha (and to a lesser extent the exploration of a red pill sigma.) Unfortunately I don't see a better solution, pragmatically speaking, than what they do now.

G_Petronius · 2016-08-31T18:51:19+00:00

Never mention what you do for a living in the first place. If you do so, you will never know whether that woman loves you or your job,especially if it's a high status or a high paying one.

You're trying to teach TRP 101 and you're speaking in terms of knowing whether a woman loves you? read the sidebar, specifically Women in Love: http://a.trp.red/q

Women don't love you. Never can, never will. Women like the feelings you give them, and they might partner with you if they believe you'll be a good provider. Female romantic love is a temporary, conditional, opportunistic infatuation.

What does this teach you? Game is what matters. Not how you look and not especially the color of your dress. I agree that being physically ripped is an advantage but if you can't game then you don't get pussy.

In what circumstances? if you're trying to pick up sluts for a ONS on Tinder or other ephemeral situations like clubs, looks and preselection make a massive amount of difference in your ability to open and generate attraction. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the basics of game being universal means specific elements of game don't become more or less important depending on circumstances.

Pewdielockz · 2016-08-31T11:27:55+00:00

The thing here is, that trp started as a board for sexual strategy for men (this is even the first line at the sidebar), but people (including me) see the red pill as something way bigger now. This strategy discussed here revealed secrets for many other aspects of life, and nearly everybody finds something to identify themselves here. People don't read the sidebar or don't get the idea behind it, and then they try to hamster their way out of the discomfort they get by reading all the stuff here.

Something that could be done against this, is to point out that people should read sidebar material before they even look at a single post here. Then they should be able to tell if a post is good or just bullshit. I think mods are deleting enough stupid threads here already.

trp_reading · 2016-08-31T15:26:12+00:00

My game is poor - how do I improve it? Which books/posts are best?

trp_ocd · 2016-08-31T15:00:57+00:00

There are rules. I'm not certain why beta posts would be debated to stay or be deleted.

Either it's Rule 0, or its not. The topic being discussed either contributes to furthering the agenda, or it does not.

It's either formatted correctly , or its not.

If it's a question, it should be in asktrp.

If it's pandering to betas, concern trolling, or outright beta garbage, it's in the sidebar as to be removed.

If the poster has obviously brought something to the forum that's either discussed in the sidebar, or in the top posts, it should be removed, unless they link the post and add their rule 0 input.

I do see many shitposts. I don't think we need room for the betas, as they have the entire world as their playground. This is the only one that's ours.

NipperSlipperShaun · 2016-08-31T16:09:48+00:00

Despite agreeing with some of the philosophy of TRP (self improvement, disciplined pursuit of more in life), a lot of what I've read on here makes you guys seem like douches, for lack of a better word. The amount of condescension and generalisations regarding women is what really sticks out as coming from a closed off mindset.

I'm just looking to see if someone can explain that area of thinking to me.

Doctor_Ethics · 2016-08-31T17:19:43+00:00

As someone who reads casually:

1) Absolutely agree. I even have a long list of questions that I ask women before I even agree to hang out with them, and before they know anything about me. Most questions are worded in a way so the answers that I don't want always sound like the better thing to say, that way I also confirm if she's trying to manipulate me or not. Also include some questions worded in the opposite way so it still works should she understand the trick and plays along (rare, but still). Sometimes I also pretend to pearl-clutch to see if she really believes what she said. Also a full scan of her past behaviors is better than any answer, humans don't change that much.

2) Partly agree. If you roam in high-end STEM circles or any place where women are raised to think like men you'll find some women who are legitimately intelligent and rational, who mock hamster etc. But if your dating pool is a liberal hub, finding one like this is rare (I haven't found one myself in 30+ years). My only qualm with TRP so far is that all material seems to describe how to deal with liberal women, how they think/behave. If you only talk to far-right, very conservative women it's really hard to apply the sidebar concepts to them, they are only really useful if you want to deal with low-quality women.

3) Disagree. Prestige is better than game in my experience. Game is essentially door-to-door marketing, in which you manipulate a to-be client into liking your product, which tends to attract the lowest common denominator. Prestige is like being an high-end retail store: only high-quality clients come to invest into it, and it's easier to spot a low-quality woman because you can see their game (which is so shit). Also prestige is patriarchal as it always puts the man in the center of the relationship: the woman is always the one who has to game/deserve/earn/work for the man and is never in a position to ask. But it's true that while not everyone can have prestige, everyone can game.

I would love if TRP focused a bit more on how to deal with relationships with women who are NOT the human equivalent of trash bag juice (since we should be turning down those anyways). I think using game on those rather than aiming higher isn't a good idea, if you ignore red flags you still expose yourself to be manipulated.

mrjowee · 2016-08-31T14:54:28+00:00

The emphasis on lifting weights being over exemplified as a means of attraction is a clear indication of gender myopia. That is, being so short sighted in what you want, you begin believing it's what the opposite sex wants. This is why women brag (either directly or indirectly) about their education, their job, their social status, their independence, and so on, in an attempt to impress men. Those aren't things we give two shits about, it's criteria women look for in a sexual partner. Our main focus is on an attractive body, so many men think that's the main criteria women are looking for. This is probably why men send unsolicited dick pics.

Maybe another take on the 80/20 rule could apply here. A woman's body is 80% of her SMV, but a mans body is only 20% of his SMV.

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rizzla454 · 2016-08-31T16:33:31+00:00

There is also a strain of white supremacism that is really noticable in this sub now. It wasn't like this before - I have been lurking for over a year.

Any way the mods can deal with this?

x0acake · 2016-08-31T15:24:35+00:00

Men are visual creatures. So they love porn. Women are indirect creatures. "Fifty Shades of Grey" is a typical example of a woman's porn

Shark said this too, but I haven't found it to be true in my experience (maybe someone can clarify). I've yet to meet a girl that doesn't watch porn. How is gangbang porn not visual?

Top 10 female porn searches

Sam1490 · 2016-08-31T15:36:13+00:00

So what do you think is the best way to learn game? The book bang, or something similar to it? I keep strong boundaries, but suck at flirting and gaming.

zedsdedforever · 2016-08-31T15:47:15+00:00

First rule is the best. I tell the ladies I am a janitor when the question comes up. The fun ones still stay around.

noaydi · 2016-08-31T16:28:55+00:00

the response of the ultimate question of life the universe and everything : GAME

red_reality · 2016-08-31T16:34:04+00:00

I've gotten replies to comments which are in the order of sjw shaming/censoring. This type of faggotry is what the rest of reddit is built on. It's not your job to police others speech. If you don't like what they said because it's "wrong" or because you experienced an emotional response, realize that you do not have enough testosterone in your blood. Once you're on the iron path, things like comments on reddit don't elicit an emotional response. Man the fuck up or shut the fuck up. Your choice.

max_peenor · 2016-08-31T16:51:43+00:00

I know a few guys who are extremely attractive( model like face and a great body). They score pussy but in the end, they always get dumped/cheated on

How does a fuck buddy dump you or cheat on you? Are we now advocating pair bonding again for Chad?

Rodear · 2016-08-31T17:03:10+00:00

I don't know I guess an average , everyday looking guy can can make game work for him but he has to be average not below. Not politically correct but true. But taking care of appearance shows discipline and making best of what you got is a must. Also signs of hard work like scars attractive. Look at Donald Trump-average looking guy heaps of charisma. He wets more panties wet than a vacuous looking handsome guy. Basically if a guy is not ugly as sin he has massive potential should he want it with women.

Darkwoodz · 2016-08-31T17:33:34+00:00

Number 6 should really be emphasized for new guys.Whenever something doesn't go your way, don't place blame elsewhere. Reflect on your own actions and decisions, because even in the end if something isn't your fault you can't change others. You can only change yourself

Redasshole · 2016-08-31T18:35:42+00:00

They score pussy but in the end, they always get dumped/cheated on.

Dude, all girls end up cheating. At best its a question of time and boredom

makechangegreatagain · 2016-08-31T18:44:35+00:00

Another thing bloopers need to get over quick is chad-hate.

Personally, I fell into this trap for a LONG TIME. Hating on a dude who steals your girl, or hating on that dude who's a total scumbag but gets laid all the time anyway.

DON'T HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME.. But honestly, don't even hate the game either. Learn how to play it and play well. Take it a day at a time.. Practice honestly and whole-heartedly and you will see improvements and blessings from the alpha gods.

The women who fuck chads aren't necessarily always stupid thots who spread for any dude with muscles and tattoos. A lot of the time, loser dead-beat chads are sweet hearts and know how to make a lady swoon. He knows how to turn her on and press her buttons just like an expert thief knows how to pick a lock instantly or pass through laser detection to steal a painting from a museum. She didn't fall for Chad because she "only dates assholes" she fell for him because he's...

1.) Hot

2.)Confident

3.) Cool personality

4.) Not some rules mcgools dbag who gives ultimatums like 2 weeks into dating like "You're not allowed to talk to him!" Chad simply doesn't give a fuck because he knows if she leaves him, it's nothing more than "on to the next one" with him. A good friend of mine I grew up with is a Chad who regularly has threesomes with these two "poly/bi" sluts.. Kids a straight haram master, he's been pulling this shit since high school. His motto has always been "hope for the best but always expect the worst" and is completely not emotional about it. He's a free spirited type that kinda just follows his dick though and has never been one to be "locked down" so they say..

So in short, don't hate on Chad but become him. Go lift, get better clothes, and take care of yourself (eat healthy, hygiene etc..) There are some great posts on here if you dig around covering these topics that helped me IMMENSELY.

And to those recently unplugged, remember.. Emotions are nothing but fleeting thoughts, similar to happiness, anger, sorrow, etc.. It's okay to get emotional, but never burden someone else with those emotions. Talk to a therapist or spend some quality time with your best bro if you need to air grievances. Emotions cloud and hinder rational thought and problem solving abilities.

Most importantly: LIFT. The #1 no brains easiest and least expensive way to raise your SMV.

Big_Daddy_PDX · 2016-08-31T19:00:44+00:00

What about the people that delete their posts? Blue Pill move or perfectly acceptable?

I think if hey came her for advice/puke and people spent time responding to them, they should leave it up to help others learn.

maik2016 · 2016-08-31T19:54:36+00:00

The world is not a disneyland. It's meant to be a hell because of evolution. To grow and push forward, you have to endure the pain. I think it's great that you think like that and make others follow. I once thought you should ultimately not accept this place as hell, but all the alphas made me think otherwise. Thank you. I should add, that my intellect told me totally different solutions than taught in this board though.

Steigertochter1 · 2016-08-31T15:33:13+00:00

Treat a woman like a whore/teenage kid. No, I don't mean in the literal sense but you should constantly keep her in her boundaries.

That would be the point i go. I do deserve to be treated as a fully grown and capable Person. Even while I am a Woman.

verify_account · 2016-08-31T17:18:35+00:00

I know a few guys who are extremely attractive( model like face and a great body). They score pussy but in the end, they always get dumped/cheated on. They don't have game.

Incorrect, they get cheated on not because they lack game but because they can't hold frame and become blue pilled betas.

Looks are very important. You can overcome bad looks or being short with game, but everyone here should lift and look the best they can.

DisgruntledWolverine · 2016-08-31T17:46:50+00:00

Good post, I particularly like the occasional retard that will stumble in and post how lifting isn't something you should be doing...

Da fuq?

Then GLO comes in and lays down the smackdown with the intensity of Brodin.

vagbutters · 2016-08-31T16:47:35+00:00

Not how you look and not especially the color of your dress.

This is where I stopped reading. You talk about blue pill posts when you made one of the stupidest statements possible when it comes to sexual strategy. Physical primacy is what counts most (although it can be worthless without good game). If you're a fat neckbeard, it doesn't matter if you have the best game in the world, your pool of women that you can fuck is dropped down by a lot. This is why everyone on the subreddit emphasizes lifting so much; dressing well and being well-groomed are musts to create physical attraction with women.

If you want to be the guy that women hamster "it just happened!" with, then you absolutely must master looking your best physically.

nzgs · 2016-08-31T17:30:57+00:00

Game more important than looks? Delusional. Seems like for the actual redpill people have to start going to sites like lookism since every thread on here is some fat ugly cretin spouting PUA shit as if the entire PUA movement wasn't exposed as a scam years ago. "Just need game bro" = "just need confidence bro" , the bluepill mantra of our generation.

You know what else makes me cringe? The guys who think women aren't visual. Women are just as visual as men. They just aren't visual when it comes to selecting a beta provider which is why guys who have only ever been in that position have a warped idea of what women want. Anyone who weight trains seriously after several years will understand this revelation; bad jokes suddenly become funny, awkward conversation becomes cute shyness. Everything a woman thinks about a man is filtered through his physical attractiveness, this is called the halo effect and it's real.

KamiMoon · 2016-08-31T13:39:37+00:00

Lift! Lift bro LIFT! LIFT LIFT LIFT!

Game! Game bro GAME! GAME GAME GAME!

Pussy! Pussy bro PUSSY! PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY!

Beta! Beta bro BETA! BETA BETA BETA! Oh, don't be BETA!

Alpha! Alpha bro ALPHA! ALPHA ALPHA ALPHA! Be ALPHA BRO!

Gotta LIFT and GAME to get that PUSSY. Don’t be BETA bro, be ALPHA like ME!

Title	Regarding recent influx of beta posts.
Author	thescalpmaster1
Upvotes	104
Comments	69
Date	August 31, 2016 10:52 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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