Stop blaming gravity

changshuaidiao · 2015-02-27T21:07:40+00:00

The argument isn't that women should change their nature, it's that they should be accountable for controlling it. It's in my nature to want to stab somebody in the neck for taking too long at the drive-through, but that doesn't mean I'm not expected to control that shit. Women act the way they do because A)It's in their nature and B) they're rewarded for it rather than discouraged from it.

Stop conflating natural with acceptable. Society wasn't built by feral morons just doing what comes naturally.

grendalor · 2015-02-27T18:33:02+00:00

Absolutely true.

So many men here are in denial that they are still BP at heart.

TRP recognizes reality for what it is. Hypergamy is natural. Disloyalty/trading up among women is natural. It is adaptive. It works. It's a good thing, not a bad thing, because it preserves the next generation better than sticking with sadsack betaboy loser. It's good for the species, important and necessary. It is a core feature of the female sex, not a "bug". It's served our species well, and it will likely continue to do so.

The key is accepting that, and avoiding being the sadsack betaboy loser -- you need to be the badass RP guy -- the one who doesn't get traded up on, but who gets traded up for.

Is that fair? No, mate, it isn't "fair". But so what? Life isn't fair. Natural selection isn't fair, and neither is sexual selection. It just is. You need to accept it and work to be the guy who wins and not one the many (most) guys who get eaten alive by the system.

Bitching about this, or asking women to act differently, is very blue pill. It's expecting people to act in a way that violates their natural programming, especially where that programming has obviously been very beneficial to the species. You just need to accept it, work with it, and make sure you're a winner under the system, and not one the large group of losers.

Complaining, at the end of the day, is for women. Men do. Or not. But don't complain, it just makes you a bitch.

itsDAP · 2015-02-27T18:37:31+00:00

Imo, it makes sense to point out while women will seek to be provided for, many have shaken off the duties that come with. Its crazy to me how many 25 year old women flat out refuse to cook a meal, drink to excess on week nights, and still expect to be treated like a princess.

kick6 · 2015-02-27T22:30:52+00:00

What you're suggesting is the ultimate pussy pass. Women aren't fucking animals, they're human. While these animal instincts underpin everything, they should be able to exercise some level of control over them. We shouldn't tolerate them being shit. They're allowed to act this way because we don't expect any more of them. They are certainly capable of it.

User-31f64a4e · 2015-02-28T04:26:26+00:00

You don't complain about the wolves eating the deer do you?

No, but if wolves made laws that deer had to be eaten by wolves, if wolves conned all the deers into thinking they needed to "deer up" and try to live with a wolf, if wolves were to rig all the rules of the game out there in nature ...

It's not that women have their own interests. It's that they rig the game that is the issue.

DualCamSam · 2015-02-28T14:54:44+00:00

Cocaine fueled posts are the best lol

Coolfuckingname · 2015-02-27T20:08:12+00:00

Men getting angry at women for looking for power and resources is like women being angry at men for wanting youth and beauty.

Its denying our genetic legacy, and when you argue with Reality, you always loose.

Love is different, but power for fertility is the oldest trade on earth.

Thewinsomeserpent · 2015-02-28T01:08:01+00:00

Just because something is does not mean it ought.

favours_of_the_moon · 2015-02-28T18:52:56+00:00

You don't complain about the wolves eating the deer do you? You don't complain that gravity will cause a hammer to fall on your toe if you drop it, do you?

That's true but the wolves and gravity don't lie to you, punish you and condition you to be easily back stabbed for your entire life, entering into that situation. Evil is evil, call it for what it is.

kevkos · 2015-02-27T18:18:45+00:00

"Women are designed to be provided for" Link? Are men designed to fuck every woman in site? Are humans designed to kill each other?

Come on dude we have a choice here, this is just making excuses for bad behavior.

thedude122487 · 2015-02-28T06:57:56+00:00

Complete horse shit. You're basically saying that women are incapable of controlling their natural urges and therefore we should just do nothing about it. Women are absolutely capable of controlling those urges, and they should be expected to.

Civilization evolved because humans figured out how to combat natural selection by using our minds. One of the biggest ways is that through the evolution of bigger brains, we developed a much stronger sense of empathy, and so we were able to come up with the most fundamental sense of morality, the Golden Rule ("Do unto others...") That includes not being disloyal to people who did nothing to deserve it from you.

At this point in the human condition, there is absolutely zero benefit to ignoring the Golden Rule. Ignoring the Golden Rule is the number one reason why the world is so fucked up today. Men have a duty to raise their daughters properly so that they don't grow up to be cheating sluts. Just because infidelity is natural does not mean that it shouldn't be discouraged.

As far as I'm concerned, the sooner the genes of people who lack the empathy to follow the Golden Rule are wiped from the gene pool, the sooner our species will be far better off.

YourSonsAMoron · 2015-02-27T20:01:13+00:00

Fucking thank you. The red pill isn't about whining and crying about the injustices of the world. It's about thriving in it. We know these injustices exist, BUT THERES NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. Stop crying about the things you can't change. Start fixing the things that you can to make yourself happier. This is about being happy... Not dwelling on our problems like some kind of school boy bitch.

SW9876 · 2015-02-28T03:39:35+00:00

The reason why I complain is because of the hypocrisy. Women behave in certain ways, the men of the red pill understand it, but women and betas chose to refute and deny it. It just gets annoying.

torodinson · 2015-02-28T13:00:42+00:00

You do your thing man. Be the wolf. Don't be the hammer.

Sage advice.

FaustoRMD · 2015-02-28T13:55:46+00:00

IDGAF what is evolutionary good for women. For me is rape them and I'm not doing this because is not right.

AnonTheAnonymous · 2015-02-27T19:28:27+00:00

This is just absurd. Women are responsible for their decisions. They aren't unthinking beasts.

BadassRPMofo · 2015-02-27T17:25:20+00:00

Truth! However, this is a level of enlightenment that can only be reached by fully digesting TRP. Simply swallowing the pill is not enough.....it's only the beginning of the journey. All swallowing the pill does is open one's eyes to the reality of TRP and allows you see the world for what it's worth. It's not until the pill is fully digested and you shit out the remains that you can gain that level of understanding. Excellent post...

-Awake- · 2015-02-27T19:10:07+00:00

I agree with your post, complaining about why women are the way that they are is pointless. Though I do understand why the complaining and venting is needed. We're not really bitching about women, we're embittered by the death of our previous ideals. Ideals that often helped sustain us and pushed us forward. Ideals that were the reason for everything we did. While most of the time I'm past the anger phase, even I slip back into it and need to rant. Not because I want to bitch and remain helpless, but because I want a release in order to bury the dead

DRMMR76 · 2015-02-28T11:46:22+00:00

Society itself is built on the concept of denying many of our animistic desires in favor of this thing we called "civilization". That's why no one murdered you with a rock today to steal your food. That's why you go to work and get paid with money instead of being out hunting elk in the snow or scrounging for berries. Many of the foundations of civilization itself are either ways to channel those instincts into something productive and safe, or limit the more harsh aspects of them so that others are not hurt in the process. Those that ignore these made-up rules created by this made-up thing called "society" are called "criminals" and they are dealt with when possible.

So once one has the understanding that no, we aren't actually cavemen right now and that yes, you do live in a civilization with other people and are required to either go someplace else and be by yourself or stay here and work within those rules, mores, stigmas and constraints the "well it's just their instincts" idea loses a lot of steam. Not all of it mind you. You deal with the hand you're dealt, not the one you wish you had been dealt. Women are given much, much, MUCH more leeway to act based off their emotions and instincts than men are. And I think that is where a lot of the anger comes from that the OP is misconstruing to being directed at women. It's not that they are acting the way women are meant to act that is the problem. It's that in the current social system they are championed for acting that way while at the same time men are blatantly and even violently brainwashed and coerced into not being allowed to act like men.

IF the OP wants to bring the "women are designed to be cared for" angle into this, that's fine. But the flip side of that coin is and always will be "men are designed to be in charge". And there's nothing wrong with saying give us both or neither. You want to be cared for? Fine. But we're going to bring back some of the more traditional masculine roles and benefits as well.

Does the wolf pack care when one wolf snaps at another and causes injury? Nope. Do you care when another human assaults you and causes injury? Yep. The wolf doesn't go to jail. The person does. The analogy is already broken. We have a society. They do not. There is no direct comparison. The central premise that the OP seems to be saying is that you're not allowed to be mad at the actions and consequences of people acting on instinct and emotion, since as animals, that's what we're designed to do. And that is just false.

stealthcreeper · 2015-02-28T11:58:28+00:00

The thing is not that they shouldn't do that.

The thing is that they no longer (80/20) do their part of being feminine and supportive to their man.

oldredder · 2015-02-28T20:28:26+00:00

So why tf are you getting so upset that women try to maximize their resources by maximizing the extent to which they can be provided these resources?

Because outright lying and dishonesty goes too far and women should expect us to work together to ruin them if that's how they want it. I'll lie about my damned name and age just to get a good lay and toss her aside with no consequences.

If women didn't act like such betraying, back-stabbing whores I wouldn't.

It's OK that women want babies. It's OK that women want sex. It's NOT OK that women want to pretend they don't want babies and then get pregnant "by surprise". It's not OK when women pretend they want sex but actually want a man to do things for her and give no sex as promised/implied.

It's up to us as men to know we can be exploited and refuse to be.

This isn't hating gravity. This is women making bad choices and men making adaptive choices around those bad choices.

You don't complain about the wolves eating the deer do you?

Ya we do: if they ate them all plus the sheep we round up a bunch of guys with guns and we shoot all the wolves in the area.

Justifying/accepting women lying and backstabbing to get pregnant, get a man to raise he child when in fact she knows another is the sperm-donor, etc., is a moral as accepting rape as a mating strategy. In the non-human world this happens. In the human world we have some serious consequences to allowing mating/resource strategies to go that far but it is equal. If rape is wrong then so is lying to/about a man to get his resources and/or give no sex when trying to get a man to "do what he's told" by promising sex.

druganswer · 2015-02-27T20:56:45+00:00

Also, I think a lot of the men here are upset that when the woman he provided for this whole time leaves:

A) he has a sunk cost into her already B) our government decides that even once she's taking another dick up her ass that man A should still be providing for her and HER kids (because honestly if she's branch swinging with a kid it is HER kid)

dontfeelrich · 2015-02-27T19:02:39+00:00

If commenters here can't see the difference between using force (raping, killing, etc) and not using force (hypergamy, seduction) then you fuckers are dumber than SRS alleges.

moodymela · 2015-02-27T17:40:16+00:00

So what you're saying is I should do my thing by raping as many women as possibly and spreading my seed as much as possible? When you realize what's inconsistent with what I just said you'll realize what's inconsistent with what you said.

mcjustmatt · 2015-02-27T20:46:05+00:00

you are preaching to the choir. You know that right?

Title	Stop blaming gravity
Author	dontfeelrich
Upvotes	45
Comments	80
Date	February 27, 2015 5:10 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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