Stop going for girls you do not like, it will never improve your game.

TheAbdominalSnowman_ · 2023-10-13T13:23:47+00:00

It's "I couldn't give a shit". If you "could give a shit" that means you could care about it.

SarsaparillaCorona · 2023-10-13T14:15:46+00:00

HAH Joke’s on you because I like needy clingy goth girls with daddy issues and BPD so I simultaneously like them AND hate them. Winning all round, undefeated champion.

Nah but seriously this is absolutely true. Another one is men who learn RP, land their first girl then immediately abandon all outcome independence and end up absolutely roasted when he loses frame because he “got the girl”.

That story is written in blood and tears time and time again.

Only thing that’s missing here is the “how” though. How do you keep frame with someone you like and keep outcome independence alive. I’ll give my own interpretation, but I’d love to hear yours.

Biggest one for me is I simply have experience and know that even though I like this girl, I’ll like other girls too. I’ll actually pull the same tactic women use and employ shit tests and look for ways to knock her down a few notches in my mind. The more counterpoints I can find through simply engaging with detractors the less I’ll get blinded to my own desire. Basically I’ll subtly talk myself out of liking them as much, meaning that the outcome independence comes back.

Another way you can help yourself is by looking at women holistically. Might sound non RP to do that, but my shorthand for this concept is “you may not be able to fuck a personality, but a girl with no personality can’t fuck you back.” If she’s my physical or aesthetic type, I’m there for it, but if she’s boring to talk to or predictable, it knocks her down a few notches. If she’s not my type but she’s got that sparkle, that zest, that knocks them up a few notches.

polishknightusa · 2023-10-13T15:52:06+00:00

Although this opens up saying it isn't from a moral/relationship standpoint, I think we need to have morality in our relationships with women because our society has hit rock bottom. Women are accustomed to men pandering to their most banal behaviors to enjoy the opportunity to have sex with them. They're plied with false flattery and validation (which is increasingly ineffective, that's a good thing), but now women are simply throwing shit tests at men to demand he perform like a dancing monkey for sex treats. Women do not communicate with each other, or get necessary feedback, to treat men in general with dignity and respect and the end result is that men who learn "game" may encourage women to become high body-count sluts. Women who engage in shit-tests are generally poor long term mates because sooner or later, you're going to slip and show your humanity. It's also unpleasant that men have to suppress our natural desire for a woman (including mentally) because she may lose interest and vice-versa, women have a natural dislike for men who appreciate them.

So in that regard, perhaps it is best to not pump-and-dump dozens, even hundreds of low quality women, for a "false confidence" although to paraphrase Woody Allen, a false confidence due to getting laid a lot is probably the best form of false confidence there is.

The author's advice to avoid easy women and to embrace "adversity" should be mindful that it's easy to say you should start playing a game on "hard level" but what if the person gets stuck and can't get beyond that? A lot of men actually do precisely what he says by default, hit on girls he likes, suffer rejection, and give up with a (true) low self-esteem. That's not good either.

At the same time, I noticed that a lot of men in my age group (Gen X), did the opposite and hit on absolute train wrecks of women hoping they'd be easy and THOSE women had huge egos and unrealistic expectations (as observed on WAATGM).

I chuckle at the "strength comes from adversity" line in that these times are about as "adverse" as men have ever had it, but they've also produced a lot of ambivalent men. Don't worry too much about life becoming too easy: it will find a way to correct that soon enough.

Back to morality: If you find that you can get laid easily, consider sometimes doing to women what they've done to us: provide them with rejection and feedback. Although I threw a lot of good potential lays away out of principle, I'm proud of myself that I stood by my "frame" and showed women that their sex treats didn't rule over me. My father sometimes threw fish into the weeds because, and I remember it like it was yesterday, "I don't want it coming back and sucking worms off my hooks over and over again." The next stage of RP will be when we use our wiles to get more than sex from women.

Aubrey_D_Graham · 2023-10-14T17:22:52+00:00

I disagree and think this advice is simply red pill misapplied to oneitis. If your hesitation/mistakes turns her off, whose frame are you really in? Honestly, if she is truly interested, you can make the dumbest mistakes as long as you are attractive. Why are you wasting time with women who are so low interest that they will make you jump through hoops to just make YOUR experience tolerable.

I've learned a lot from easy lays: Women who are much more interested in me. They hammered the concept of if a woman wants you, she'll make it easy for you. Absolutely go for these women, but don't invest into them. Let her expend energy on maintaining the ons/hookup/fwb until it run its course.

TLDR: Practice with easy lays. Seriously consider a woman who is attractive AND sexual (the Madonna and the whore) for YOU.

NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-10-14T13:10:25+00:00

70%+ of Americans are fat now. If the newbies don't go for them as practice, there is none left to practice with. Look everyone has worked jobs they hate to work to get a job you love.

Great advice...for 2003. So many are fat now. If you want to follow your advice, try traveling to other countries.

ClickKlakk · 2023-10-13T20:01:13+00:00

Premise is wrong.

When you internalize TRP, you treat all women the same.

Stop going for girls you do not like, it will never improve your game.

The way you’re applying “like” is something it takes me as a Red Pill internalized man a minimum of 6 months of hanging out and fucking to consider.

Now if your premise was girls you like as in girls you’re attracted to, then I would wholeheartedly agree.

Mr.Tzary has read and instilled TRP concepts into himself and is ready to put the theories to the test. He meets an attractive girl called Alice he doesn’t like/care about but is sexually attracted to and goes out on a date with her.

I get the perspective that if you’re new and you have read some stuff but don’t have experience in the field testing it out, you are prone to mistakes. I don’t think you’re going to find someone who is sexually attracted to a girl but not emotionally invested in, who has a strong frame from a dgaf mentality, who also

Some time down the line, Tzary meets Ana who he’s really attracted to and he actually likes/cares about.

Chances are, your main character immediately develops and emotional attachment to Alice (6) within the first few weeks of fucking her and has his come to Jesus moment before he ever meets Ana.

You’re basically telling the story about a beta who finds TRP, learns basic principles, goes out and applies them successfully on a 6, thinks he’s got it all figured out, then falters when he tries to apply them on a 9 because he hasn’t yet internalized TRP.

The whole problem can be boiled down to do not become emotionally invested in a woman you haven’t been regularly fucking/plating for at least 6 months and always use the bitch management hierarchy to properly vet women before even thinking about allowing yourself to invest emotionally.

Also level 99 outcome independence

Basically the whole sidebar.

If you catch yourself slipping on your game, READ THE SIDEBAR again until you internalize it

Yes?

All told, it’s a pointless post that reads more like an attempt to garner status in the echo chamber and less like a valuable contribution to a meaningful conversation. It’s ok to practice critical thinking by writing and posting - it’s a great way to develop.

This ain’t the one though. Go back to the lab and cook up something better.

prayer_in_see · 2023-10-21T00:09:40+00:00

But what does "liking" a woman mean? Sounds like oneitis to me. Also, not banging hot girls becauae you don't "like" them increases the possibility for oneitis, so it's contradictory advice. If you wanna bang the ones you like, have plenty.

ElectricObsessed · 2023-11-23T06:54:54+00:00

I disagree. If you focus on the girls who do not want you instead of the ones that do, you will end up with no experience with women so even if you do improve yourself and manage to one day attract the ones you like, you will be a completely inexperienced virgin and you will have a big challenge to overcome. Whereas if you have already slept with some women, no matter how they look, you will know the process and how it works so then you can replicate that success with any girl so as you become more and more attractive, you know how to handle the hotter girls who now want you.

Tzar_93 · 2023-10-14T13:58:11+00:00

I would love for there to be more morality in the world but, in order to achieve that people would have to shine their own eyes well and look in the mirror.

Something I think most people can’t bear to do. They’d much rather judge others before judging themselves.

Title	Stop going for girls you do not like, it will never improve your game.
Author	Tzar_93
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Date	October 13, 2023 12:57 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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