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[–]Dr_Frogstein483 points484 points485 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
More. Shit. Like. This.
Crug. Want. Simple. Tools.
Find woman. Take woman.
[–]MrFuckinFantastic60 points61 points62 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Best laugh I've had all day
[+]GrowlingBears-51 points-50 points-49 points 9 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link
Even better, walk up to the prettiest girl in the bar and tell her she has no idea what she's missing out on then turn and leave. This gets them every time.
[–]improvingme6397 points98 points99 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You dog you. I wish I had moves like that. Then I'd date nothing but paraplegics and my house would be crawling with pussy /s
[–]1mojo_juju11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
best fucking line i've read on TRP all goddamn year.
[+]obama_loves_nsa-8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I laughed pretty hard. Have an upboat
[+]GrowlingBears-14 points-13 points-12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm the dog you say? Your house would be "crawling" in pussy... Because they're paraplegics! They can't walk! They can only crawl!
[–]Monsterpiece428 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You got the joke, good. Crug proud, because you're a simple tool.
[–]Recon_by_Fire12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do you seal it by spinning around 10 feet away with your finger and your thumb in the shape of an 'L' on your forehead only to then transition into the wink and the gun?
[+]GrowlingBears-8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You know it baby! Gotta be sportin' the Members Only jacket, though, to pull it off.
[–]Rapefugeekilla1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude trying to A&A but ain't doing nothing but making a fool out of himself
[–]iSnORtcHuNkz691 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Remember, even the hottest of hot girls have diarrhea, too!
[–][deleted] 119 points120 points121 points 9 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
Back when I studied PUA techniques I came across a post called the Shock and Awe strategy.
In a nut shell it's just skipping past all the other bullshit once she starts giving indications of interest just suggest going to her place or her coming to your place.
I'll tell you right now that shit works. The first HB8 bartender I pulled was pretty much just me suggesting I go to her place to sleep it off when she said something about me being careful not to get too drunk.
Of course she said "I don't know if thats a good idea" that told me she hadn't dismissed the idea out of hand. I didn't say shit. This is the most important part. Just stood there while she processed the idea. the she said "we're not going to have sex".
We got to her place and she ran inside real quick while I was waiting and came back down in a tee shirt and panties. I dint even have to try. She basically attacked me and started humping me. Ha.
[–]rpm612176 points177 points178 points 9 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
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What is this?
[–]FuckYourNarrative127 points128 points129 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Oh man if I had a condom for every time a girl said "we're not having sex tonight" I'd have like a thousand condoms cuz I don't use them.
[–]RenaissanceMan7921 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That made me laugh out loud. However, how can you be RP know about the CC and bang some sloot raw dog?
[+]DennisReynoldsAMA-17 points-16 points-15 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The condom isn't even protecting you that much anyways. Would you workout with sleeves on? Didn't think so, don't don't put a sleeve on your dick while it works out.
[–]The_DogeWhisperer7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But sometimes I do workout with sleeves on.
[–]slay_it_forward9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That makes no sense cheese tits
[–]RedPillAtNight60 points61 points62 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Shock and Awe is:
You: "What are you doing later?" Her: "I don't know." You: "Do you want to come home with me?" You: STFU and look confident Her: Basically tries to decide if you're a serial killer or not, so you can't look sketchy or creepy.
Supposed to work about 25% because it's so ballsy. Google Bristol Lair, Shock and Awe.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did this to a female friend once. We went to a place for house music because we both didn't have plans for some reason on a Fri/Sat and IM'd. She's an early-30s Asian chick, actually has a personality. I said something like "nothing would make me happier than a blowjob right now" not even as a proposition, but she accepted it as such and we were in a cab within 5 minutes. Seen her a couple times since at parties and stuff, seems like a clean discrete hook up. :)
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
How do you deal with "do you really think I go home with the first guy that asks"? OR "do you say that to all the girls?"
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just my responses. They would change depending on my mood of course.
Oh, I got more.
This is fun.
[–]larryjack4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Control the Frame:
Just because someone asked you a question it doesn't mean you ought to respond.
Which it doesn't translate into "being an asshole because you don't answer."
Do it with class and wit. See, for instance, how politicians do respond to a question but actually do not respond (do not trap themselves and do not provide the info the questioner asked).
I'm not saying talk like politicians either. It's about Frame.
Frame is controlling
what is talked about
who gets the information and
the quality of information that is involved in the transaction (how much desinfo can you go).
[–]MAX_Fury 8 points8 points8 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
First question: I don't see anyone else asking (smirk) Second Question: Only the pretty ones (smirk)
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck, I like the second one - I was asked this by a girl I was having sex with the other day, to be fair though, I was already inside of her so it didn't really matter.
[–]Lo-G8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The second one is shit. You're entering her hypergamous smutty frame by telling her she's pretty in this context, without demonstrating value.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You say nothing and just look at her. Don't even treat it as a shit test, you treat it as her rationalising. You just patiently confidently say nothing, ideally looking at her with a faint smirk that says "it's ok, work your way through this in your head, I've done and said everything I needed to".
[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt30 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
"we're not going to have sex"
Which means I've already thought about the idea and now that I have your dick on my brain we're probably going to do that, but I have to feign I haven't thought about it so I don't appear too easy.... aaaaaand now we're fucking.
[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Whoops, how'd that dick get in there?
It just happened!
[–]Temperfuelmma1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pahahahaa it's funny cause it's true
[–]J_AsapGem-5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
aaaaaand now we're fucking
BUAHAHAHAHAH looooooool that made my night man, legit happen a few days ago, chick told me you know i have a bf right so we not having sex, all i said was i'm watching tv whoever said anything about sex laughing to myself inside because i know she's thinking about and at the end of the day, it's her feelz in the moment above everything else.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"We're not gonna have sex"
Literally every time a chick said that we had sex. EVERY TIME.
Once I even obliged. I was jet lagged and was like "cool. I'll sleep with my pants on even just to help make sure". After grinding her ass on my cock and complaining my jeans are rough, we had sex.
I didn't even want to. I had to if I wanted to get any damn sleep. So now whenever I hear those words I pretty much just unzip and get ready.
[–]CumForJesus14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"We are NOT having sex tonight JJMcgray."
"Oh man, I have work tomorrow.."unzip and sigh loudly
[–]dapowa1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i have lived exactly this, many times legit not even wanting to fuck.
[–]LockedOnTheRedPill37 points38 points39 points 9 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes you gotta learn the hard way. I, back in my less impressive days, Attempted to use some pretty stock pick-up lines to open this girl in a park. She called me a "fat creep" (I was 75 pounds heavier than I am now) and walked away. I never used a pickup line ever again. Also, the book "The Charisma Myth" is a great book about learning how to use charm and charisma to your advantage. It's a great read, and I highly recommend it. Girls want to be around me, because they know there won't be a dull moment when I'm around. That's the entire concept around gaining charm and charisma. The biggest thing about "picking up" (I hate that expression btw) girls, is that you need to A. Look good and don't be a fat fuck, and B. Be a person she WANTS to be around. Fuck that, be the person she NEEDS to be around. Also, playful teasing is a sure way to get 97% percent of all girls' panties wet, as long as you look good too. You'll just be an asshole to her if she doesn't find you attractive.
[–]TrumpSEXYMAN13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
Opinion openers are good when you start learning 'game..'
After that, you no longer even realize what you're saying and can approach with "hey, what's good?"
[–]LockedOnTheRedPill13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago* (26 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, those are pretty rudimentary. The problem with PUA as a whole is that it's a bunch of canned lines, and pre-thought actions.The whole "Fake it till you make it" mentality. A Red Pill mindset is different in that instead of just giving us pre-thought, processed material, they give us the tools and materials to make our own success. That's why most "master" PUAs go beta once they find "the one". They haven't internalized shit, and if they have, they don't usually hold frame very well. They allow the woman to walk all over them.
Inb4 I get downvoted because I talked some shit about PUAs.
EDIT: I should clarify that canned lines are a good start, but should never be used to replace internal game. Your own shit will always be better than anything you learned from a "Pick up girls in 5 steps guide."
[–]TrumpSEXYMAN7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
to be fair, canned opinion openers give you the ability to build the confidence... when i started going out i used them and then eventually got fit, dressed while, upped my game and they went away.
you need training wheels before you can roll up with a "hi" and flow with it. even the best looking guy will fail without confidence and direction to take a convo
[–]LockedOnTheRedPill2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Correct, but too many guys outside of The Red Pill only use those canned lines. They don't branch out and try their own stuff. They still are looking for "the one", and they think that now that they have the "magic words", they'll be fine. Hell, Mystery almost attempted suicide and had to go into a mental hospital because a girl he considered "the one" left him. While PUA has their uses, they aren't flawless, and guys getting into game should be weary about how they should approach game. I'm so thankful for what Red Pill taught me. PUA is great, but like MGTOW, it has its flaws.
[–]slay_it_forward1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
When you fags refer to PUA why are you always talking about Mystery in 2005?
Game or PUA is just approaching + knowing what attration triggers are + plus recognizing signs of interest + pulling the trigger.
Also trp (lift, look good) is fucking obvious. The nuances of women not so much.
[–]thisornothing0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think he's just citing examples, and also, who the hell has the time to remember notable figures in a field that essentially boils down to "pretending to be something you're not". Or, considering the crowd it attracts "how to pretend you're not autistic".
PUA gets a bad rep because it's attempting to mimic the traits and behaviours you should naturally acquire by working on yourself. So it can come across as cheap smoke and mirrors around here.
[–]slay_it_forward0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, it's basically social science. It's understanding what really attracts and arouses women. You can be a jacked trillionaire and not understand the underlying principals of PUA (read more Heartiste). That's what the bluepill is, a paradigm which fails to understand sexual psychology. The rich jacked guy living in the bluepill mindset is still going to get jerked around by women.
[–]thisornothing0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure. But I don't think I'd put the hypothetical trillionaire body-builder in that camp because he has those assets, and I get what you're saying about it being a social science of sorts. I guess I can see how it'd be useful for someone who has an underdeveloped sense of how to socially interact. I suppose, since I've never struggled with that aspect, I've never delved into PUA enough to know anything substantial about it. The only examples that pop up into my consciousness are the extreme ones - the ludicrous guys talking about "peacocking" and then dressing like some sort of neon-coloured cheap magician.
Either way, my point is a lot of people around here don't go down the whole PUA path, so it makes sense that whatever references they're making are out of date.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think the best I've ever felt about game is when I'm talking about a subject I'm passionate about. I can see the panties getting wet while I'm rapping about how to handle unhappy guests, teaching my managers and GM's how to hold themselves. Ladies just seem to fall for it and what it is if you are super confident about a line of thinking and projecting confidence while looking good and accessible, they melt.
[–]glawkneintehn3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the problem with me is all of my hobbies are technical as fuck, my work is technical as fuck, my mentality is technical as fuck. Basically there's no emotion in anything I do lmao. I sound like in explaining a turbo encabulator
[–]RPSigmaStigma2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
You do realize that TRP was founded by PUAs, right? Did you read "The Game" once and think that's all there is to PUA?
[–]LockedOnTheRedPill2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
PUA has its flaws and shouldn't be the only thing you rely on. Also I believe that TRP was founded partly because there wasn't a way to discuss things in the "manosphere" on Reddit and RPS wanted to add his own flair to it, plus he found that the modern dating game was terrible for men. To quote something he said "I hadn't published anything before. I got started when I stumbled upon a few manosphere blogs and realized there wasn't really a good forum for discussion on masculine topics." So no, it wasn't founded by PUAs, unless RPS is a secret PUA. I'm sure there are many more reasons than just that and u/redpillschool can correct me if I am wrong.
[–]RPSigmaStigma5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
RPS founded this sub, but "the red pill" has been around far longer than that. Rollo from The Rational Male was a frequent poster on the SoSuave forums before his blog, and long before this sub. Roissy of Chateau Heartiste is old school PUA; go read some of his earlier stuff. One of the earliest mentions of "the red pill" as an analogy for the realities of female sexuality is from this post on Hawaiian Libertarian's blog who was studying pickup to fix his marriage. If you watch any of RSDTyler's lecture series, you'll find it littered with red pill theory and terminology.
Edit: oops, I meant this post on HL's blog (written in 2009!)
[–]glawkneintehn2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah RSDTyler is what you should be striving for when taking about RP without talking about RP. He does it very well. Especially here
[–]slay_it_forward0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The sidebar all comes from PUA
[–]LockedOnTheRedPill0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
All of it? Because a lot of it is stuff from Rollo Tomassi, who wrote The Rational male and then the rest of the manosphere blogs written by other guys. Yes, there are aspects of PUA, as there should be, but it isn't the emirate thing. Again, I don't think Rollo is secretly a PUA, so a blanket statement that everything in the sidebar is PUA is negligent and a dangerous statement. So I ask you, did you really read the sidebar? Using game and calling yourself a "PUA" are two different things.
[–]slay_it_forward1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Rollo comes from Sosuave, a PUA site, and most of what he talks about is parroted from Heartiste, a PUA.
[–]LockedOnTheRedPill0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Rollo is his own man, with his own teachings and philosophies. Yes, was was influenced by PUAs, but that doesn't mean he 100% is a PUA. I was influenced by a lot of guys, but none of them define who I am 100%. The Red Pill concept is so much more than PUA, and while you should stay true to your roots, it takes a man to say that some of those roots were flawed. PUA is a great way to learn game, if you're already swallowed the pill. PUA on its own, however, is flawed.
[–]slay_it_forward1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What does trp teach that guys in Pua don't teach?
[–]FuckYourNarrative-5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Dude, it's been 3 years and I still haven't internalized shit. I'm still a beta who watches anime every night. But I know what to say and how to act to look like an alpha. Like a Philosophical Zombie; a woman inputs shittests, I run them through my TRP circuits, and spit out the correct output to make her wet. It's all fake though.
A true alpha is opinionated, hard headed, loud, doesn't change his mind, etc.. I put on that act for others, even my family, but when I'm alone I cross my legs because it's comfortable, I worry about having the wrong worldview, I can't make my mind up about anything.
I am beta.
[–]Diego1751 5 points5 points5 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It's all in the mentality, you don't want to be a brick head. Having some doubt in yourself is the basis of self improvement and humility. You cant let that shit consume you. Being alpha for me at least is being confident in being a good person, and part of being a good person is healthy amount of humility backed up with experience and confidence
[–]FuckYourNarrative-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You may value those traits within yourself but I hate to break it to you: women don't value humility, good, doubtful in men. They may say they value these traits because rationally they ARE good traits, but when has rationality made a woman wet. You can't reason with hormones. A woman doesn't choose what makes her pussy tingle.
It's your job to put those values away and talk to her lizard brain.
[–]dapowa2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
you shouldn't live your life for women, you live it for you and some or many of them may get invited to share in it by their affiliation with you. your writing suggests you don't have realistic expectations of what women are prone to or efficient at. you a virgin?
[–]FuckYourNarrative0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are projecting way too much, tone it down.
It's clear to everyone here that you are projecting because you didn't actually respond to anything in the comment above.
[–]Strike48 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You're gross dude. I hope you're trolling because if you're not I feel bad for you. Shit, I feel bad even if you are trolling. Wasting all that precious time and shit.
[–]CherryStripes17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Say hi then imagine her blowing you"
"Hi HNRGGG"
[–]MortalSisyphus 64 points64 points64 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Me: "Hi."
Her: "Hi.
...
umm, did you need something?"
Me: "Uhh, hmm... I didn't plan a follow up, so you caught me off guard. Well, those nice fat lips are doing wonders! Shit I'm getting a boner now."
Her: "I'm calling the police."
Me: "Fuck I must not be shutting my brain down enough."
[–]rpm61232 points33 points34 points 9 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Silence is good, embrace it
So am I meant to listen to you or the sidebar? I mean I get your point but there's a ton of contradictory information across TRP.
[–]1mojo_juju13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Ever work in sales?
Check out 2 examples:
Example #1.
You drop your value proposition, then you shut the fuck up.
Wait, b/c the other party is going to respond.
But before they do, often there is a slightly awkward period of silence
(they're thinking and trying to figure out the best strategy/response).
You can't control how they respond, but you don't come off desperate either-- you come off confident in your proposition. So remember-- there is confidence expressed through silence, in the appropriate scenarios.
But imagine this contrast instead:
Example #2.
You drop your value proposition.
And then, instead of being silent, patiently...
You jump down the person's throat with a bunch of other reasons why they should "buy", trying to justify the fuck out of the proposition.
Which one comes off desperate-- example 1 or 2?
If you've never done sales, give it a shot for a few months (if life permits). It's an eye opener and teaches great social skills (manipulation, social grace, how to open and close, how to steer conversations towards the goal you have in mind).
Something else silence does which is very important: Silence gives weight to your words.
If you don't speak many words compared to others in the conversation, the ones you do speak are perceived to be important, meaningful, powerful, assuming you're on even par with everyone in the conversation regarding social status. (i.e. they look to you just as much as anyone at the table/in the room-- however since your input (words) are less than others quantity, what you do say will receive more attention and weight, and will be perceived to be more "well thought out" and of better quality)
The less you speak, the more powerful your words, because there is less of them.
The less of things there are, the more attention per thing can be devoted-- it's design theory. A bunch of fucking things-- say beers on a menu-- say it's a bar with 80 beers on the menu. It's option overload aka overchoice aka the paradox of choice. You won't see or remember them all. But if there are just 4 beers-- now you give each of them a lot more attention, and the weight of your decision weighs on you. Clutter is the opposite of attention-- it is distracting. Silence "reduces clutter" in the sense that because you're saying less, what you do say receives more attention.
We live in an attention economy
We're bombarded with advertisements all day, so we shut them out. It's simply a matter of selective attention.
Decorative classrooms are distracting to students (google it). We see this effect all over because it is part of nature.
[–]disposable_pants6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Silence is fine once you've established a rapport. Heck, it's even fine early on if there's a part of the conversation she can naturally respond to (e.g. if you offer your opinion on something, a pause is usually a signal for her to chime in, too). But if it's right at the very start -- no rapport, not even a topic of conversation on the table -- then you need to just spit something out.
As for what that "something" is, I generally pick something mundane right off the bat (if she's into a mundane conversation, it's a better sign that she's into you and not just interested in whatever super-intriguing or super-funny topic you dreamed up). Then I ask how long she's lived in town, what parts of town she's explored so far, and then you're already talking about bars/restaurants/parks/theaters/etc. so it's easy to segue into "let's check out _____ on Thursday." Just remember:
Make it as simple as you can.
[–]rpm6120 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]CumForJesus-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What the fuck ? Have you ever talked to someone ? How do you make human friends ? Do you think you're going to not walk up to someone, so you can never talk to them, and they're going to become your friend ? You can't cook your food before creating a fire.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Usually I just go to events or attend a location that I can do my hobby at, then talk to others because we have similar interests.
In a supermarket or on the street? Everyone looks busy, so am I, if I'm at the supermarket I'm not stopping, got shopping to do.
At kick-boxing class? we have things to talk about and it's expected that everyone is friendly and approachable, I have no issue there.
[–]Redasshole0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Calling the police for that?
What kind of woman does that?
[–]vagbutters24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Before you feel overly confident about what OP is saying, just remember-- if your physique is shit, your fashion style is shit, and you're poorly groomed, none of this will matter (at least as far as picking up anything above an HB4 is concerned).
[+]FuckYourNarrative-16 points-15 points-14 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
If you have to rely on looks and clothes you're not good enough. I practice in sweatpants and a fully buttoned up plaid shirt and walmart flipflops with a patchy beard.
It's hard mode.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
that's just dumb, women don't want to fuck what they don't like to look at..
[–]FuckYourNarrative8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
That's the bluepill media filling your brain with garbage and pseudoscience. The red truth is that men want women who are sexy, or at least who appear sexy. Women want men who are high status, or at least who appear high status.
You think 70yo Trump could score Melania if he wasn't the high status man that he is? Does Trump look like someone Melania "likes to look at?" No!
Women will jump on a Sumo wrestler's dick if he wins the fight.
Do you think any man alive would fuck Hillary? Imagine fucking Hillary and you can imagine what a woman feels when she's on a date with a cute shy male who combs his hair and wears the latests fashion.
[–]disposable_pants12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Women want men who are high status, or at least who appear high status.
And wearing sweatpants, a fully buttoned-up plaid shirt, and Walmart flip flops while sporting a patchy beard doesn't exactly scream "high status." You're right that status can outweigh looks, but purposefully hamstringing both with deliberately tacky clothes is just counterproductive.
[–]FuckYourNarrative1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes, that is the point, now you get it! The show of high status has to come from the words I say and the way I act. I can't lean on my streetwear for support, like flying solo.
Some gimmicks that work is being loud so I try to find an excuse to be loud just before I move in for the approach. Phone call or a busy street on a friday night help. You just have to move her attention away from your clothes to your voice, etc..
[–]disposable_pants4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I see what you're going for, but again, this seems counterproductive.
Plus, the idea isn't to have the sharpest game in the world -- the idea is to be more successful with women. If you're sacrificing success with women when you go out in the pursuit of sharpening your game, you're mixing up your priorities.
[–]FuckYourNarrative2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You enjoy the prize more than the hunt; I'm sure many agree with you.
As a fatalist, I have accepted Sisyphus as one of my personal heroes. He's my path to true happiness so I try to emulate him as much as possible.
More superficially, the joy I get when I see a girl's orbiters (who are all super dressed up and smelling nice) stare at me (sweatpants, flipflops, shitty shirt, no shower, just out of the gym with my pump on) as I make out with her is better than sex. Honestly, the thought of their disbelief makes me cum just by itself. I had childhood trauma so give me some leeway here.
[–]CumForJesus2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Okay, but that doesn't mean it's not counter productive. You get a point for making me smile though.
[–]ColonCancer666[S] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Truth. But fuck you for making me imagine fucking Hillary.
[–]J_AsapGem0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
to be fair though she did look good when she was younger
[–]rigbed1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And looks like he should be in an indie band, fedora, glasses and all
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No... I mean you're right that they want high status.. but they will use you for what they can, and for what you have.
If you're high status because you're rich, and powerful, they will use that and be with you for that. Do you think Melania comes home and fantasizes about moving Trumps fat out of the way before blowing him? Fuck no.
She fantasizes about fucking a guy with a body she actually wants to fuck while doing just enough to keep Trump around.
That's wrong. Women aren't attracted to physical bodies like you and I are. We men are attracted to women who appear to be good at giving birth, that means wide hips, healthy skin, a bit of fat but not too much. Women are attracted to men who appear to be good at acquiring resources.
We men are actually blessed because there are far more ways to signal our ability to acquire resources than for a woman to signal her temporary fertility. We can show off our wealth, show off our muscles, show off our courage. Just anything that can be emotionally construed as "this loud fucking asshole can easily get resources" or "wow look at his ability to get resources" or "wow he's so tall and strong I bet he can just take resources from other men."
Everything women do they do to find out which man is more able to acquire resources. Women are actually wired to pit two men against each other, it's their sexual nature.
Women aren't attracted to physical bodies like you and I are.
What? Why do you think there are magazines with attractive men on them? Do you think it's only for gay men? How can you say women are not attracted to a man's physical body?
They are attracted to men's physical bodies, just like you and i are attracted to theirs, I know guys who dont have to do anything to get laid. They are not rich or powerful, but they are good looking and are not homeless. Women offer themselves to them. And I mean really attractive women. If you are not good looking enough, you will be rejected by a woman for that reason alone.
You are talking like someone who has spent far too much time reading things here, without actually trying to go out and pick up women.
[–]FuckYourNarrative-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are ignoring the billions of cases of ugly dudes getting laid with hot women. Women throw themselves at ugly disgusting men. If you can't answer why they do so you need to read more.
[–]Ray_8170 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe your being sarcastic, if so I can't tell.
You sir are sorely missing some of the basic RP tenants, Constantly improving ones self and being the best you can be, does and should include trying to look your best, dress for success. Looks, Status, Game - all help your mental health and let's be honest when you look good you feel good, and that shit just makes life 10x easier! quit trying to pit two interrelated things against each other and go read the side bar.
[–]FuckYourNarrative0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You seem pretty new here.
Sure, having looks and clothes will help because you can use them as a fallback when your frame gets shaky. But the ultimate goal is to be able to control frame with words and actions alone. Do you think you'll have prettyboy looks and huge muscles all your life? What happens when you get older? There's a reason why older men can get laid while older women can't.
I'm just preparing, you're not.
[–]RichKingOfBangmar -6 points-6 points-6 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You could not be more wrong. Looks are important to us, not them. A man's looks don't come up unless his game is lacking or he forces them to come up (e.g., using a direct opener).
[–]demolpolis6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Looks are important to us, not them
hahhaha... you try talking to strangers as a fit, athletic attractive man vs a fat slob.
[–]RichKingOfBangmar 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
That's a problem point I see here: "attractive" is used as a synonym for "good-looking". That's missing the point entirely.
A man's attractiveness is mostly made up his of confidence, emotional stability, and ability to evoke emotion in others. Everything else is change in Donald Trump's pocket.
[–]demolpolis0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
A man's attractiveness is mostly made up his of confidence, emotional stability, and ability to evoke emotion in others.
Part of it is.
Other parts include height, weight, muscles, facial structure, hair, etc etc etc
You know who has confidence and the ability to evoke emotion in others? Chris Farley.
You know who just sits on screen and says nothing? Henry Cavill.
Ask your girlfriend which is more attractive. As her who she wants to fuck.
[–]Zerwas5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Pardon me, but that is completely false. Like a lot of PUAs always say: Looks don't matter! They actually do. A lot! Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise and start lifting.
[–]kkoomi6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Could anyone expand on the "arouse (polarize)" step? Does this mean after demonstrating some value (confidence, humor whathaveyou) you say something sexual to see her reaction?
[–]FuckYourNarrative20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Demonstrate Value - Show frame by approaching and saying hi
Engage Physically - Kino, hand on shoulders, hold hands, hug
Nurture Dependence - Be her ride, her planner for the night, your show NOT hers
Neglect Emotionally - Do not show weakness, she can cry on her friend's shoulder NOT yours
Inspire Hope - Leave hints of future relationship developments, leave a marriage magazine around
Separate Entirely - No Marriage that's like rule #1
There are hundreds of posts on this but just read the sidebar.
[–]dickcomments1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Dennis system!
[–]Lawojin0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What about things like Seeding the pull, not mismanaging expectations etc?
[–]Hotdawg1791 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm no professional but I think he's just saying give her some feelz. Positive or negative (polarize). Don't be gray and boring
[–]Surfincloud94 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lay 5 bricks a day everyday
[–]untitled_redditor5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I have long been a fan of "hi" online and in person. If they're interested it doesn't matter how you open IMHO. Overcoming them not being attracted to me isn't something I'm interested in. And if they are attracted, hi is always enough.
[–]ColonCancer666[S] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Spot on. You learn more about a girl in 5 seconds of talking than 5 minutes of watching. Plus now you're talking.
[–]LazyA10 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Hey. (meat stare), How are you doing?"
[–]untitled_redditor0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just start with "Hi :) It sure was nice today, did you get a chance to enjoy some sun?" Or something equally casual. It's trivial to guage interest. And if she likes me, carrying a convo isn't a problem for me. The tactic of getting a number quickly works. I don't do that anymore, mostly because I don't need to and I'd rather play cat and mouse a bit.
"Hi"
(Imagine her sucking your dick)
"Oh yeah I like when you play with my balls"
Oh shit I fucked it up! I kid. Good post man.
[–]WhitieVI7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great post. Thanks for the advice.
[–]J_AsapGem2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
starting the conversation is 99% of the hassle.
so fucking true man, approach is the hardest part, but as you break the ice and you realize she cool with you, smooth sailing from there unless you fuck up
[–]F1remind1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the essence of all this. A very decent way to say "Screw you and your shitty fears, everyone has them and you are not special. Get out there and talk to people if you want to know more people."
[–]redsound1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What happened? Why it has been deleted?
[–]ColonCancer666[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I have no clue dude. TRP overlords apparently didn't approve.
[–]RPSigmaStigma1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Goddammit, I had this post saved. Did you message the mods about it?
[–]ColonCancer666[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah 2 so far. Guess I'll have to work down the list
[–]Avskygod03 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
10/10 ebin post
should be in side-bar
[–]Awotwe_Knows_Best0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
ebin sounds really close to how we say "shit" in Twi
[–]rhapsodyforever2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This doesn't work for me.
I'll say hi, she'll say hello and we're back to square one.
[–]oliver512932 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My personal favorite pick up line.
"Hi, Did you know I'm a general?"
"Oh really?"
"Yeah, I've got two privates down my trousers manning the heavy artillery"
But I'm such a cheesy fucker I make french brie look mild.
[–]1bradyo20 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you ever actually used this before? The reply is more likely to be "...what?" Than "oh really?"
[–]Zerwas0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
YOU THINK TOO MUCH! I'm terrible when I think too much
This cant be overstated. If you see a girl you like: Approach her without hesitation before the brainfuck starts telling you what could go wrong etc. Go with your intuition. Most times women react extremely positive. You will be surprised!
[–]redpillfil0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just saved the post...now its gone
[–]ColonCancer666[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah idk what happened. Messaged 2 mods so far.
[–][deleted] 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago | Copy Link
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[–]ColonCancer666[S] 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Just don't imagine them blowing you. Unless that's your thing.
[–]rigbed0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My sarcasm was lost in the wording.
[+]ObservantOmega-6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Some guys just need their daily dose of vitamin P.
[–]Theophagist14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes thanks for the constant reminder we had no idea that there were men who were attracted to other men and it is important to mention them every time heterosexuality is suggested.
[–]FlowingKing0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thank you man.
I'm in high school and whenever we go out to different places it's easiest to just talk to random people for the hell of it rather than thinking of a fucking script.
And thank goodness for TRP because I'm not bad looking but I realized that no matter how great a fucking line is, if you're overweight or skinny AF then it doesn't matter. SMV counts before the lines do.
[–]ColonCancer666[S] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I know some fat fucks that scoop hotter broads than most guys at the gym. Social experience is the most important factor of SMV. That's what "hi" does. It opens the door and allows YOU to step in a talk. At first you may suck, but it's foolish to expect otherwise. Then it's just about not giving up. Shit I still flop here and there, but you gotta laugh that shit off and be better next time. If you're in high school then you can do anything you want to you body by the time your 21. START NOW. PM me if u need specific advice on sculpting your body.
[–]The_Stumper0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think it's more productive to focus on rules than exceptions.
A fat fuck scoring hot chicks is the exception.
A fit guy scoring hot chicks is the rule.
Exceptions to what? Rules established by who? These don't exist. I only acknowledge actions and results. This guy gets results and he's not alone. I know several other men with above average success with women that you would never guess. They just know how to make a girls pussy wet thru her ears not her eyes. And more importantly, he puts himself out there and doesn't make excuses! He doesn't talk about his problems or ask for help online, he looks for a different girl and trys again. That's what I'm getting at with this post. Be a healthy sociable sexual human and talk to girls withouto making some excuse founded in pseudo-perfectionism
[+][deleted] -13 points-12 points-11 points 9 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
damn man. how thirsty you gotta be to be approaching >=5 girls A DAY?
[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If you aren't initiating conversation with at least ten random people in a day, looking for sex or not, you are missing out on a lot in life. You already know everything you need to know about the people you already know. And hey, they may be some awesome people. However, new opportunities, new worlds to conquer, new poon to harpoon wait after as little as "hello."
Do it. Everything day. At least ten.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. People too, not women. When you approach men this way, within one or two questions the subject of business will come up. This is called networking and it is why everyone but you is successful.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Too late, it's buried. Oh well. This exact lesson is one of my two major takeaways from TRP. The other is to try to have two plates in the air or more at any one time. I'm actually 44 with two marriages in my past, with no kids. Any woman I fuck is going to either have or want kids. I want nothing to do with kids. Therefore, I have to next and be nexted with ease, and for that I need more than one stick in the fire at any particular time.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Upvoted dodgingbadger's stupid post to keep this one visible. Good stuff, totally agreed.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How do I get over cringing uncontrollably at the thought of just walking up to a stranger and trying to talk about something, I don't see anyone else doing it, all I see happening is them looking at me like an alien.
In a place where we're all doing the same thing like an archery range I can talk fine because it's expected but in a supermarket? I've never had someone just walk up to me and start a conversation in a supermarket so why would I do that to others?
[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do I get over
I don't know. I just do it. But I can brainstorm with you.
I don't see anyone else doing it
Well, that's probably an overstatement, but yes--the majority do not. Don't be the majority. Be what the majority wants to be.
all I see happening is them looking at me like an alien.
See, I'd love it if they looked at me like that. It means I got through to them. You see, your enemy isn't rejection, bewilderment or disgust. Your enemy is indifference. It is very difficult to go anywhere with someone that gives not a single fuck about your existence in the universe. On the other hand, I've railed the ever living shit out of women that initially despised me. Keep frame.
because it's expected but in a supermarket?
Actually, it is expected in the supermarket. PUA and wannabes troll those places for women to approach. It makes me barf a little when I see it. Stay out of the produce area. Of course, that doesn't stop me from still talking to me. Alien? Yes. Yes I am. Wanna see my testicles? Er... testicles?
I've thought about this for years and this is the only thing I can come up with. And I could be wrong. The reason I have no problem with it is because I don't show interest in the people--I show interest in what they are doing. People like to guard themselves, but love to show what they can do. Ask them about what they are doing. Ask them about their opinion of what is happening. Do not ask about them. Names, numbers and favorite position can come later--pardon the pun.
People do it to me. Men and women. It doesn't have to be a big deal. I talked to an old lady about fucking peanut butter for a few minutes not too long ago.
[–]RPSigmaStigma4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
I know, right? It's like all guys think about is sex! Men who talk to women are such creeps! Gawd!
[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 9 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
not at all, but it doesn't help the perception. imagine if ALL men did this. a woman wouldn't be able to get from point A to point B outside her home. it would be thirsty madness. i say choose more carefully.
[–]RPSigmaStigma9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link
All men aren't going to do this, and the vast majority never will. Would you tell someone not to start a business because if everyone was starting their own business no one would have anyone to hire? This isn't Kantian ethics, it's not intended to be done by all men, just those of us who want more than to just settle down with the first girl who comes along.
[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
id tell them exact same advice id give when approaching women: choose more carefully and act. dont start 5 different businesses ideas every day.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The business idea is fucking. The five women you talk to is networking.
wouldn't a better business idea be investing in a woman who will give you sex on demand, and then tossing her aside when she no longer fulfills that demand? why be balancing twenty plates at once with your hands and feet? seems like more effort to me.
[–]FinallyRed4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can have 20 options and chose from that number what is optimal for you. Sounds like you prefer the best one. Or you can have one option and delude yourself that she is the best option. Then if that falters you are on the scramble for another one and your game is rusty. This is RP 101 dude.
You base your strategy on an imaginary "image" people have of you. It's an illusion assuming you live in a place that has a population large enough to guarantee anonymity in public. If youre living in Asswater, CT that is what makes regular cold aproach iffy.
[–]1RXRob2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Somebody hasn't had multiple plates.
Never had 20, but I've had 3-4. It was kind of exhausting. Just me, but I prefer banging 1-2 good chicks. I've never really had to "scramble" for a girl, as another poster put it, because I've never been that desperate for pussy. Always been a pretty simple idea for me: if you want to meet girls, go outside and meet girls. I didn't have to develop an in depth strategy and game for a year before I did it. I just took a book to a coffee shop and chilled, and said hello to someone who caught my attention. EZPZ.
[–]RPSigmaStigma2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
So one woman a day should be enough? Or is that still "thirsty"? Or should men just wait patiently for The One?
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
id rather approach one woman a day whom i was attracted to than approach 5 woman a day whom i barely feel anything towards, and whom i am approaching because of some arbitrary rule i or someone else has imposed. not a popular opinion around here, but go with your feelz sometimes.
[–]RPSigmaStigma1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
If you can't find 5 attractive women a day, I'd say you either aren't gong out enough, or going to the wrong places.
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
everyone isn't attracted to the same kind of girls. i'm more attracted to brunettes than blondes. in fact, i am not really attracted to blondes. while i can say "she's attractive", in some objective sense, i can still feel quite nothing for her. and what is the point in approaching a "hot" girl if you feel nothing for her, attractive or otherwise? so i dont see the point in finding and approaching "attractive women". it's very subjective.
[–]ColonCancer666[S] 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You need a reality check. I only approach QUALITY, thats why I approach them. That's why I bed them. At this point I'm fucking spoiled and I get what I want. I see something I want to fuck, I stop talking in the conversation I'm in, leave the group and hunt her ass down. No thought, no rules, I'm not keeping count. You missed the point of my post. Stop thinking with your head, and start using your dick.
My "advice" for you is to stop ejaculating by a handjob from a boy every night and put it in some real pussy. Then you'll actually get the thirst necessary to go "oh fuck, I actually gotta work to have sex" which will be foreign to you because you fried your brain from video games and porn. Instant Gratification Millennial Syndrome. Shit I should coin that shit tonight. You call me thirsty, yeah I'm fuckin' insatiable... but I'm fucking. I call you incapable of thirst, dry as a desert, and completely misguided. I am not your friend, but I am here to help. My advice is sincere. Welcome to TRP. Read the sidebar
You're right, it is very subjective. So then, why is a guy with broader interests "thirsty"?
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