To the members who stopped drinking

FrogTrainer · 2014-06-03T18:48:05+00:00

Nothing wrong with ordering a coke or 7up at a bar. Most people don't even notice it. Rum and Coke used to be my thing, most people assume I am drinking those if I am just drinking a coke.

If you are actually worried someone will give you grief for not drinking (which you shouldn't, you're a guy, you DGAF) You can ask the bartender to "dress it up" when ordering a coke/7up/club soda. They know what this means, they get the request from recovering alcoholics all the time. They will make it look like a cocktail instead of a plain soda. Tip them well for obliging you.

As for returning to actual drinking. Just learn to enjoy yourself without getting shit faced. I, like most guys, spent a good number of years in their 20's dropping obscene amounts of money at bars, binge drinking. Now I can go to the bar and have 2-3 BEERS. No hard mixed drinks, No shots. No fucking Irish Car Bombs or Jagr Bombs. And drink them at a reasonable pace.

Once you have trained yourself to be able to attend an adult get together, enjoy a few drinks, and responsibly refrain from overdoing it, and get yourself home safely, you'll basically get a day of your life back for every outing. No more Sundays being a vegetable, wasting your workouts and productivity.

You could also volunteer to be the designated driver. People LOVE designated drivers.

formerbptherapist · 2014-06-03T19:25:11+00:00

I'm an alcoholic, and I've found RP behaviors both more challenging and easier since I got sober. It involves more intentional proactivity now-I have to manage any anxiety without chemicals. Lots more lifting and meditation, and I'm far more clearheaded than ever before. I recommend martial arts as well.

CreepAcceptance · 2014-06-03T19:21:47+00:00

Here's a relevant article on the effects of alcohol on protein synthesis and hormones:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/539982-alcohols-effect-on-protein-synthesis/

Relevant section:

Alcohol consumption decreases secretion of HGH by up to 70 percent. Alcohol consumption also causes your liver to release substances that virtually cancel out the effects of testosterone in your body.

I still enjoy some cocktails on the weekend or maybe some mead but I try to limit that shit. Better off with milk. Save your money. Get big.

As far as hobbies go, get involved with shit that makes you excited. I like physical shit, so MMA, yoga, dance, etc. And you could check out meetup.com to find a group to go hiking with, play kickball with, or pretty much do anything with.

Focus on self-improvement. Alcohol has almost no place there, except as a celebration of your accomplishments. The buzz tastes a lot sweeter when you know you've earned it.

Mymobileacoconut · 2014-06-03T21:19:16+00:00

A lot of people have this problem. You don't have that much experience with girls or socializing or going out, it's drunk you that has all that experience. And sadly that's 2 different people. So you going to have to reboot, and rack up the experience again, this time sober. The good news is you did it once and you can do it again.

2014-06-03T23:17:15+00:00

Ask for some sparkling water or tonic water with a lemon wedge, tip the bartender, done. Drinking is a waste of time and money in my opinion - the drinking scenes are important parts of building up networks in many countries, and obviously most good venues for hitting on women involve drinking, but you do not have to drink to be a part of the "drinking scene".

The benefit is that you train yourself to be fun and unstifled without liquor, and you will have a higher lay rate since you can intelligently handle logistics. Not to mention saving money and avoiding the health detriments that come with too much drinking.

It IS possible to tap into that same invincible state without drinking. And when you do that and you are fully conscious, it truly feels good.

kempff · 2014-06-03T18:50:42+00:00

terrible headaches and disgusting hangovers

Drink a lot of water before you crash. Then when you get up to piss in the middle of the night, piss then drink more water. Hangovers are mostly dehydration.

PFN_LIST_FUCKED · 2014-06-03T19:20:50+00:00

I had to stop drinking for health reasons. I liked the person I was when drinking, so I've been trying to cultivate the positive aspects of inebriation within myself, like having outgoing energy and being talkative. People will think you're drunk or on drugs anyway if you're outgoing or entertaining enough.

Designated driving can score you some free food from friends. Drunk people are generous too, so you might be able to charm some strangers for free food. I explained my health concerns to a group of strangers when a guy offered me shots for looking too sober. One of the girls he was with said, "Oh, well you can still do coke, right?"

I haven't figured out sober activities though. I still hang out at bars just to be social. I had a girl pull the, "Do you always hit on drunk girls?" card at worst, but I'm always weary that a white knight will spring out and call me a villain for not drinking.

eccentricrealist · 2014-06-03T21:54:08+00:00

True strength is in moderation, not in stopping completely. Drink a fifth or two of scotch, two or three beers, because if you quit completely, by the time you feel some booze in your mouth you're going to binge, hard.

towmule · 2014-06-03T23:38:06+00:00

You have some work to do to understand that you are seeking something "bigger than yourself". That's why feeling like you are part of the group and drinking appeal so much. But that something bigger than yourself is yourself. Or rather more exactly, it is your creation. It is the standards to which you hold yourself. It is your legacy of growth and improvement. It is the commitment to excellence not in joining the group, but in having the group join you.

How do you get there? Repetition and putting yourself out there. Staying motivated and building up those inner muscles for finding how to be comfortable in any situation.

I find wine, cider, and beer can be a great addition to a meal to help highlight or compliment it. As for drinking for the sake of drunkenness, that tends to rob you of power. Seems suboptimal.

RedBigMan · 2014-06-04T00:47:38+00:00

Everyone has their own vices that stop them from being the best man they can possibly be. For some it's masturbation, others it's anger, some have problems with alcohol and drugs.

There's nothing wrong with being the designated driver but if you are not having fun when you go out then it's time to change the locales you go to when you go out. Instead of relying on bars you could always goto places where you can daygame girls if that's what you're into.. libraries, art galleries, whatever...shows you as more of a cultured sort who appreciates the finer things in life as opposed to the guy getting sloshed at the bar on a nightly basis

widec · 2014-06-03T23:43:35+00:00

Most of y friends seem to be exactly the same way with pot. Trying to get them to just hang out sober seems to be impossible, and once the buzz wears off they don't want to do anything anymore.

This is just an unhealthy relationship with drugs. They should be used to enhance an experience, not be the experience. That said, there's nothing wrong with some social drinking when the circumstances call for it.

I used to smoke every day before I went back to school, but once that started it was cut back to once a month. Your relationship with alcohol can be that was as well. It's not an all or nothing thing, if you happen to have an invitation to drink every few weeks then you can always limit your usage to that.

culofiesta · 2014-06-04T00:12:36+00:00

I've never really been a drinker. I've been drunk twice in my life, both intentionally. I never really got a taste for alcohol and it's really affected my social life. You begin to see things a lot differently. People think I'm either recovering or judging them for drinking. Many people can't imagine people not drinking.

What I do instead- spend time with my girlfriend, have lots of sex, cook, read a lot, exercise, explore the city rather than spend entire evenings sitting in one bar. I've been to a lot of great shows and remember all of them.

I've lost a lot of friends because I don't drink though. You never really fit in with people that drink so frequently if you don't. That's ok though, since they were always kind of boring and if your friendship is based on sharing that one interest then that's not really a friendship.

Not sure if its TRP or not, I just felt like it's given me a different perspective. I've watched people around me age much more quickly and get DUIs or do stupid things while drunk that's affected their lives.

Not drinking keeps you in control of yourself and your actions at all times. It also makes you less likely to put up with bullshit; "I was drunk when I said that!", "I couldn't help it, I was drunk!" You begin to see a lot of people for how they really are- pathetic, weak and boring.

vengefully_yours · 2014-06-04T03:13:35+00:00

At 19 I was stationed in Germany. Read legal to drink and you can buy pussy if you're bored. By the time I turned 21 I realized how much cash I was literally pissing away. When I came home on leave, and turned 21, I went to a small bar, had a jack and coke, played a game of pool, then left. Didn't really drink much for the rest of my military life, but I did get bombed twice in Korea back in 02.

Instead I did fun things, drove to Rome, explored Germany, drove to Holland and had a great time. I bought a car over there and I still have it, turned it into a street strip toy and have tons of fun with it. Damn, I've had that thing for 24 years now. Ah memories. I don't remember the drunk times but I remember the trips and fun in that car.

Just realized, I haven't had much to drink for the last three weeks. I guess I forgot to get some.

ButterMyBiscuit · 2014-06-03T19:05:42+00:00

I think drinking is fine, just don't overdo it. I'm not telling you to start drinking again because it sounds like you had a hard time doing things in moderation. If that's the case, it's probably a good thing you stopped drinking.

If you're going to continue with sobriety (which, like I said, seems wise in your case), you need to expand your social group beyond people who only drink like you used to. Once you have more friends who don't drink all the time, doing other things with them will be easy. I know it's easier said than done, but that's what needs to happen.

scottlapier · 2014-06-03T18:44:08+00:00

I usually abstain for health reasons, but I'll have one or two with some of my friends once every other week or so. Unless its a special occasion and I have the next day off.

dadsmeatwagon · 2014-06-04T03:31:51+00:00

Not sure if my word counts (age has its restrictions) but I've been to parties and and drank socially. It definitely seems like a waste of time/money. I also feel that I sometimes am "left out".

But, I also realized that the reason I don't go out and do it more, is because I don't WANT to be involved with people who think it's a good idea to get drunk and such.

TheD_ · 2014-06-04T03:41:24+00:00

Similar boat at 27. Learn to act drunk, sober. I dunno how you do that completely, but spending the first two hours of the night trolling randos for my own amusement seems to work aight.

FrostyGoingHisOwnWay · 2014-06-03T21:29:12+00:00

I really need to stop drinking, the problem is that I love the feeling of being drunk, I have enough money to blow on alcohol and not feel any financial pressure, and I don't get hangovers. Dangerous mix.

I've been cutting back recently, if nothing else just to make sure I can, I'm concerned it would be easy to slip into being an alcoholic.

kingjerksupreme · 2014-06-03T22:36:34+00:00

At 25 I was doing the same thing as you. I was skinny & fat at the same time. I could no longer even do a single pull up, despite being able to do 20+ as a kid. Every night was going to a friends house for video games & miller 32's, beer pong, & visiting cheap dive bars full of trashy people. Eventually I got sick of just getting wasted to waste time. I got a gym membership & started working out every weekday night. I pound protein shakes & takes shots of pre work. I still go out drinking occasional, but its a lot funner when girl touch your arms & you say to them it costs $5 bucks to touch those.

SouthwellR · 2014-06-04T01:13:05+00:00

Drink.. but don't drink to the point where you are getting paraplegic.

Orin_Fitchett · 2014-06-04T03:52:41+00:00

the only time that i have drank in the past year is for a special occasion, only when i want to, and even then, it takes a lot for me to get drunk.

when i'm out i drink ONLY what i can get for free, which means water, water + black, or carbonated water with black. my nights out compared to this time last year have improved tenfold. self amusement is key, do shit that makes YOU laugh

2014-06-04T04:18:41+00:00

I drink cranberry, I get dogged by friends at times, but now they just buy me my cranberry when they are getting their drinks and we all clank drinks then hit on bitches. They wonder how I have more fun and get more girls than them.

2014-06-04T14:25:58+00:00

Do you work out? Once I got a nice physique, it became easier and easier to say no to alcohol. Your body can't synthesize protein or burn fat while metabolising alcohol. So it really fucks up your workout routine and you don't recover the next day. As well, your muscles are 70% water; so whenever you drink it dehydrates you….and that water is drawn out of your muscles. Takes me a good 36-48 hours for my muscles to regain their size with the same level glycogen.

After a night of drinking I typically lose 4-7 lbs. All water weight - and my muscles look so damn flat the next day. I've lost .75" around my arms the next morning after drinking. It simply became less and less worth it the better my body looked.

Look at this photo taken 24hrs apart of a man's muscles after becoming dehydrated:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/14/article-2507184-1968A5C400000578-708_634x450.jpg

I_have_common_sense · 2014-06-05T17:15:39+00:00

When I got serious about working out I quit drinking so as not to kill my recovery.

Then I realized I didn't want to spend Fridays like other people do which is basically to go out, eat, and drink a lot of alcohol. Seems like a waste, all they do is get fat and talk about the same things every Friday.

Strongproudwoman · 2014-06-03T19:47:50+00:00

I haven't had a drink since I was 18, I'm 23 now. I work security in a bar and when we go out. I order my unsweetened cranberry juice.

The key..... Is to own that walk.

" I'll have a cranberry juice, thanks" I say it with confidence and never get questioned.

I go to the bar a lot with friends, never drink. Be social and you won't need alcohol. In fact it might even train you better because you don't have that liquid courage.

sociosexualstatus · 2014-06-04T01:09:30+00:00

I wish I could give you gold if I had the money

bsutansalt · 2014-06-03T19:42:45+00:00

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Title	To the members who stopped drinking
Author	gt35r
Upvotes	37
Comments	70
Date	June 3, 2014 6:08 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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