Transhumanism

Rebikhan · 2016-10-07T14:51:27+00:00

Dude you need to go out hiking or something. Get off reddit.

Red pill has no argument. It's just trying to explain the way things are.

ConceitedBuddha · 2016-10-07T15:04:08+00:00

In this Transhumanist future the Globalist Tyranny will be like Supermen with all the best and most advanced features. The slave class of natural humans will be kept around for a time and fed constant Blue Pill conditioning so that they become like cattle.

Okay, you just went full retard. By the time this would be possible the concept of a human slave would be completely ridiculous. Robots are way more efficient and will most likely surpass humans even at non-routine cognitive jobs within a few decades.

AnarchyInAmerica2017 · 2016-10-07T17:42:47+00:00

No sources or scientific backup? You're a retard. You're the last person who needs to be an endorsed contributor.

Conceited-Monkey · 2016-10-07T20:20:10+00:00

Time to go back to building your bunker.....

[deleted] · 2016-10-07T23:37:31+00:00

I for one, welcome our new cyborg overlords, and volunteer myself for assimilation.

prodigy2throw · 2016-10-07T13:56:20+00:00

Ahhh the resident TRP conspiracy theorist. Stay nutty you glorious bastard.

Any sources to backup this post or is this all opinion?

MickeyDsVan · 2016-10-07T15:37:56+00:00

Red Pill (natural) concept

You know what's natural? Taking your clothes off, climbing into a tree, flinging shit at others and eating berries. That's it. Medicine, supermarkets, internet, smartphones, houses, clothes, sticks and stones and electricity and and and... not natural.

What is the meaning of humanity if it's no longer genetically human?

Honestly, I don't know. But that is the next step in human evolution, whether we like it or not. Either we become machines or we perish and let machines take our place.

JamesSkepp · 2016-10-07T14:51:32+00:00

NeorractionSafe shoving more irrelevant topics onto TRP.

This hive mind linkage would in the future be physically connected to the Transhuman being.

Yes, and there is NOTHING you can do about it. Technology moves forward, apprently you move backwards. We already have mind controlled machines, we can already read the emotional states of humans, we will son be able to "plug in" directly to the internet or computer, just like with a PC or a mobile.

Computers will be able to design optimal DNA Transhumans

Yes, we can and WILL improve on nature's design's in many cases. We already do. A lot of crops is already modified to be better than their natural counterparts.

It's pretty clear that Transhumanism is not a Red Pill (natural) concept.

It's also pretty clear your post is as much Redpill as Transhumanism is.

Our central argument is always that sexual orientation should be rooted in human nature that is based on biological roots

No, it is not the central argument of TRP, nor is it OUR. It's apparently YOUR central argument for this post, because it suits you to "praise the nature" this time.

TRP is a forum that discusses sexual strategies and their implications. We already go into the culture and technology impacting the strategies. Why would we choose NOT to explore the subject and pick what is beneficial whan the rest of the world will.

In the Transhumanist world you could literally design any feature you wanted into these new creatures.

Unlikely, at least for a forseeable future (20-50 years).

You have zero idea what kind of complexity is involved into changing anything more than single charachteristic of a highly evolved animal. For a good example: you can't "just program a human to have 3 hands", you have to add the cardiovasular system, nerves, bones, muscles and so on. All this HAS to be done at the same time otherwise it just won't "work". Ant this in most cases means death, most likely painful.

SouloftheVoid · 2016-10-07T19:01:50+00:00

Transhumanism is neither Red Pill or Blue Pill, but is arguably something more important that transcends them both. Nature is fundamentally flawed, especially when it comes to the human condition: we age, we get cancer, dementia, lose fertility, and lose independence, and die. I don't want to experience that and anyone who does is a fucking moron. I want to live forever or at least a lot longer than the meager amount of time afforded to humans by nature.

Genetic modification should be embraced, not feared. It can make every man healthy and fit and every woman an HB10, forever. And that is just the beginning; superhuman abilities come next. There is no wisdom and comfort in nature, only decay, misery, and death. If death is a fundamental part of the human condition, then I'd rather be something more than human.

People get this negative image of transhumanism from the media where they associate it with the Borg from Star Trek or killer robots from Terminator and The Matrix but all of us here know that the media has their own agenda, and it is no friendlier to transhumanism than it is to men's rights.

Don't listen to the Luddites, they would have us living in caves and wiping our asses with bark.

[deleted] · 2016-10-07T23:38:21+00:00

Did you forget your meds today?

larryjack · 2016-10-07T15:57:40+00:00

You're talking about: How to become God.

It's all the same shit again: Increase the Delta.

Either increase the power of a group of Humans, making them Super-Humans (Gods) among the rest of Humans
Or, decrease other Humans' power, making them Sub-Humans, so that the group of Humans will be Gods among the Sub-Humans.

(1) is more difficult to implement than (2).

Algernoq · 2016-10-08T02:27:03+00:00

Transhumanism can be Redpilled (good sexual strategy for men). Let me explain:

The idea is to create a new type of human that has two significant features: GMO or Genetically Modified Organism technology applied to human DNA. Robotics and Technology to enhance human capabilities.

So...I could use GMO tech (once it works better) to modify my own genes, to make my body crank out high T levels and store very little fat, making me look even more attractive. I could also use my eye-mounted smartphone (once it exists) to browse Tinder literally 24/7, and have an AI chatbot that copies the style of my text messages (once it exists) to set up dates for me.

The choice is simple: improve or die. Use the tech as much as possible, or be out-competed and die.

In this Transhumanist future the Globalist Tyranny will be like Supermen with all the best and most advanced features.

The Globalist Tyranny is not inevitable. Mass media provided control, but now individualized media provides fragmentation into specialized groups. Smartphones bring the possibility of real-time TRP guidance (e.g. a newbie's phone streams their terrible date to an askTRP thread, and whispers back the most upvoted comments).

Ever since gunpowder, technology has favored offense over defense, and thus favored insurgents over the establishment. It's cheaper to blow up a wall than to build one. It's cheaper to run a psyop (advertising) than to counter it (ex. this is why most campaign ads are negative...cheaper to attack than defend). It's cheaper to rebel (share information on edgy forums) than to enforce conformity (track and delete those forums).

Our central argument is always that sexual orientation should be rooted in human nature that is based on biological roots.

I mean yes, sex changes are degenerate, but that's not what Transhumanism is about. A lot of TRP is about overcoming biological urges to make choices that win...going against biological roots to win in the modern world.

I signed up for cryogenic freezing...not for sexual reasons, but it occurs to me now that if this whole Transhumanism thing works out then someday I'll fuck a catgirl.

Why do you hate catgirls?

[deleted] · 2016-10-07T14:29:58+00:00

GMO or Genetically Modified Organism technology applied to human DNA. Robotics and Technology to enhance human capabilities.

I would love that shit, please, upgrade my hardware and software.

VermillionManMarch · 2016-10-08T02:45:29+00:00

This was a big thing in the early 90s, I remember hearing FM-2030 on the radio a few times. To me it's a little early to take this seriously; elective direct genetic tampering with human embryos isn't a legal, available option as yet, and we haven't discovered a black obelisk on the moon either. So for now, it's kind of like crystals and chakras for technogeeks/libertarian/alt-right types.

TheRedStoic · 2016-10-08T13:41:49+00:00

Hey bro, this isn't really relevant to trp is it?

I mean I kinda see the connection but, really it seems like a huge jump to say there's a clear link. There aren't even lessons learned or a practical application to our daily lives.

Confused. Usually love your content but this one seems totally... Well not up to par.

NaughtyFred · 2016-10-07T15:34:22+00:00

Better, Stronger, Faster

Words-Are-Wind · 2016-10-08T09:36:17+00:00

Interesting post, but I think the opposite will be true. The only people who will be able to afford this technology, whether you are talking about modifying DNA or becoming cyborg like, will be on more on the alpha side of things.

Men who work and earn good money like doctors, lawyers, STEM majors and the like, will be broke from provisioning women, divorces, and child support if they are beta. The ones who are more alpha and don't waste their money on women might be able to afford it. Sure, there might be some rich millionaire and trust fund betas and the like who can afford it, but there is a lot less of those people around than hard working alphas, just because there aren't many millionaires in the world compared to middle and upper class people. Also, people who are beta tend to blow their money on frivolous shit to feel better about themselves. They are also more risk averse, meaning they are unlikely to be the early adopters of a brand new technology that has such a heavy impact on their own lives or the lives of their children. And if beta men were to adopt the technology, it would most likely make them almost instantly alpha. If they had some superhuman cyborg brain, then red pill truths would probably be as plain as day for them to see. They would go to a bar once, and even though they've done it 100 times before, think for the first time, "Hmm... even when I'm a near perfect being, being a pushover and provisioning gets me no where, yet this guy who is aloof and not invested is a huge success with women!" His mind would be too logical to hamster away at blue pill shit, and no matter how hard he's been conditioned to be blue pill, he will see the light.

If anything, I think it will lead to the most alpha people becoming even more alpha and superhuman like, and betas becoming even more irrelevant, since there will be guys who are smarter and can provide women more money than a hard working beta, and they would be physically flawless to boot instead of repulsive. Perhaps one day every guy will be a super chad that makes Einstein look dumb, and betas won't even exist anymore because they would be bred out of society.

But there is no way for us to tell how any of this will really play out as of now, that was just my own conjecture. It's still too far in the future. Chances are they won't allow research on these kinds of things, much like they didn't allow research on stem cells under the Bush administration. That was to save lives and shit, and look at the backlash that got. Engineering super humans and becoming near immortal cyborgs and shit is on a completely different level, and if feminists are complaining about fat shaming and models now, imagine the huge stink they will make at the prospect of an entire generation of perfect women who are all younger than them. Even social conservatives will be against this kind of thing, bringing religion and the sanctity of life into the argument. It's likely to be attacked from both sides of the political spectrum.

rpguarddog · 2016-10-08T13:10:16+00:00

Allow me to elaborate on this post.

Trans-humanism is not good for the majority of us on this sub because most of us are not alpha. Only the alphas or rich betas will have the resources and to be honest most rich betas wont do it.

Robotics and Genetic manipulation is going to create a new elite. In a few generations those controlling the technology will be unstoppable.

[deleted] · 2016-10-08T22:22:36+00:00

When I was younger I thought all these futurist ideas were pretty cool. I've since realized the best stuff will be reserved for the corrupt elites and you will have people like soros that will live for a long long time.

I don't think they will have a chance to implement this sick vision on the world though.. thanks to economic problems and war.

ThomasHobbesROK · 2016-10-09T01:42:17+00:00

Some aspects of emerging technology are scary of course, but then again, I think of Iain M. Banks' culture novels and think #thefutureisgoingtobeawesome.

http://www.vavatch.co.uk/books/banks/cultnote.htm

Surfincloud9 · 2016-10-09T15:24:50+00:00

Transhumanism is good and will progress humanity. Coming from someone who studied science 20+ years with a ton of schooling. Nothing wrong with transhumanism. There is bad parts about everything. You can't take good without the bad. Even the red pill. Good is the self improvement while the mad bitter men spout nonsense and hate on women because they can't attract a decent girl or go for the nutcases.

sunkindonut149 · 2016-10-10T22:19:08+00:00

Facepalm

Is Transhumanism even a thing anymore? Do people still freeze their heads after they die lololoololol? I remember taking "nootropics" a while back... didn't work. kek

nyxlucis · 2016-10-07T15:05:15+00:00

I disagree with your post.

First off the need of a sub-class of humans is not mandatory in Transhumanism, and it's pretty clear that any society that would aim at enhancing humans with science and technology, would aim as well at delegate lower classes jobs to machines.

That said, if you remember, in Brave New World the "Alpha" class is completely Red Pill, everyone gets to pursue knowledge and to develop himself as best as he can, sex is completely unhinged by the social conventions that rule in today's world.

There are no taboos about sex, children are free to explore it, and everyone belongs to everyone else. For in a society where everyone puts the maximum effort in developing the self, and where there's no need to pursue reproduction of the specie, being that taken care of, there's no reason for commitment or for feelings like entitlement or pretentiousness, hence there is no cage.

Deltawon · 2016-10-07T16:45:36+00:00

I don't think you understand the transhumanist ethos very well. It could just as easily be spun as being super redpill.

e.g.

Transhumanists want to expand our abilities as conscious beings to the maximum extent possible and basically say fuck you to the moralizing Luddites that get left behind. They want to live forever and and experience life to the maximum extent possible.

[deleted] · 2016-10-08T03:55:07+00:00

Lol. Bunch of conspiracy theorists in the comments.

We are already partially transhuman. Consider the beta male who satiates hardwired drives for sex, war, and peer bonding with:

porn (substitute for sex)
violent video games/televised football (simulation of war, competition, strategy, etc.)
sitcoms (substitute for peer group/local community)

Technology is already satiating many of his most primal drives. This type of herd creature lives a life that is simply different than nature intended. He relies on mass produced technology to satiate his inherent drives.

"Technology isn't necessarily unnatural." You might say. "Humans were given brains for a reason."

Sure - but technology must be subordinate to our deeper desires. In other words, you should have sex in real life instead of watching porn. You should get into shape yourself instead of living vicariously through high-def streams of pro athletes. Technology is just a tool. You're not supposed to "merge" with it.

As you point out, the smartphone has become an extension of our bodies and is, for all intents and purposes, a 6th sense.

To the conspiracy theorists in the comments: read books by elite thinkers. They talk about this stuff.

FrameWalker · 2016-10-07T15:21:50+00:00

There are two of my fb friends who went on and on about transhumanism circa 2008-2010. I kid you not they are now both transgender. Let us know when you switch.

Segway: are you into lesbian open? Turns out overconsumption teaches you to project yourself into the body of a woman during sex.

CaniniusQDoggy · 2016-10-07T14:19:07+00:00

The idea that transhumanism involves the use of technology to improve human capabilities is laughable to me; theyre not even trying to eradicate diseases or cancers. Not a single stitch of progress made and theyre not going to compromose medical industry profits.

I thought that transhumanism dealt more with those disgusting tranny freaks born one of the two genders who want to mutilate themselves to appear to be the other. They get more support in the mainstream culture than any attempt to improve the human condition and its diseases (with the exception of breast cancer...because women). Theyre starting it already. I read an article a few weeks ago about how even the Army is trying to force some sort of tranny acceptance education on the soldiers.

cashcow1 · 2016-10-07T15:49:01+00:00

I don't know why this got downvoted to hell. This is a major part of the thinking behind power elites that are pushing blue pill on everyone.

CptDefB · 2016-10-07T17:44:40+00:00

Neo, I've said it to you before, and I've said it about you before; YOU ARE TOO FAR AHEAD OF THESE PEOPLE. It's why I'm not surprised to see this first post of EC Weekend at 0 votes, and probably less as the day goes on.

Anyone who takes time away from gains, girls and gwop ($), to read some futurist literature would already know that this is on the horizon and not just some pipe dream from "the resident TRP conspiracy theorist".

The Matrix came out what... 17 years ago? That's older than some of these dudes. I will link this here, knowing that most people won't spare the 2h to expand their world view, despite doing fuck all for the next 4 days except stuffing their face, drinking and maybe sticking their dick into something; https://youtu.be/JvKEwr0iNA0

The proof is all around, but just like the Matrix, a lot of people would rather eat steak. Sometimes the BP is wedged so far down, that even the RP on the outside are Purple on the inside. It's like Morpheus said, beyond a certain point, pulling someone out from the system is just too much for them to process.

Taking your clothes off, climbing into a tree, flinging shit at others and eating berries. That's it. Medicine, supermarkets, internet, smartphones, houses, clothes, sticks and stones and electricity and and and... not natural.

What do you say to that?

I commend you for continuing to spread one of the purest facets of the RP signal, but I imagine it must get tiring even for you, to constantly be met with so much willful ignorance.

Title	Transhumanism
Author	NeoreactionSafe
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Comments	55
Date	October 7, 2016 1:44 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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