What if we flipped the script here?

H42 · 2018-06-07T20:25:18+00:00

You yell, "Video me now!"

Then call the cops, show them the video, and get her arrested.

Then have a meeting with the county prosecutor and demand she be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, just as if she were a man.

Force equality upon women.

temerity18 · 2018-06-07T16:31:54+00:00

Empathy gap. People have empathy for women. Not men. Twisted as fuck.

atticusfinch1973 · 2018-06-07T19:39:29+00:00

We already know there is a massive double standard when it comes to these types of things. I spent two years working for a female dominated company and was harassed regularly. Think HR would do anything about it? Of course not.

This is the reality we live in.

Don't fight against it, learn to use it to your advantage.

By the way, you need to learn some serious skills with verbal bantering. You could have easily shut both of them down in about ten seconds with a couple of sentences but instead chose to stand there and take it.

sadomasochrist · 2018-06-07T17:38:39+00:00

What if we flipped the script here?

Then the confetti flies out of cannons and a plane flies by with a sign that says "OP IS A SPERG."

So what?

A man's primary dimension is reason, a woman's is emotion.

How is it going to make her feel? And that's that. Men will reason through whether or not this was assault and negotiate a settlement of the differences.

Women will hold to how they feel and act on it.

If she thinks its hot, good to go.

If not, enjoy getting your ass beat by a bunch of white knights and blue pills and handed off to guys with badges and put in a box.

This is why TRP is systemized in the way it is. Men are MRA and other subreddits with an external locus of control believe they should try to "even the score" or change the world. Such changes are likely futile.

Instead, orient yourself to take advantage of the world as it is. Understand if your advances are welcomed, you can literally have sex on the dance floor. If not, then even saying hi is "harassing her."

Be attractive
Don't be unattractive

MattyAnon · 2018-06-07T18:26:28+00:00

Would I have gotten off completely scot-free like these women did?

Of course not.... you'd be assaulted then arrested.

We live in a gynocentric society. Noone cares about you. Women have complete freedom. You can't do anything to them without being imprisoned.

You CANNOT flip the script. The narrative (women are perfect, men are evil) persists regardless of both your actions and theirs.

Kindredvodka · 2018-06-07T20:38:04+00:00

Heres the fucked up thing and you can already see the script flipped. Look up all the teachers that RAPED their young male students. Never do you see the word, rape, pedophile, predator. Its always affair, misconduct, mistake. It is literally the one thing that fucking boils my blood, could you imagine a male teacher did this to a 15 yo girl??

And also most of the time the sentence is a fucking joke. Reduced sentences and thrown away charges are rampant with female teachers. Its fucking disgusting.

BIDMAL · 2018-06-07T22:49:01+00:00

Don't bother. What separates a decent person from stupid feminists/SJWs and other bio-trash is that instead of focusing on and whining about all the shit in the world and what they think is unfair, one should focus on becoming great at something, self-improvement, living their life to the fullest.

AllahHatesFags · 2018-06-07T20:10:40+00:00

What if we flipped the script here?

You would be charged with sexual assault.

Serpenthum · 2018-06-07T20:15:49+00:00

Honestly dude its a double standard that can't really be argued. At the end of the day, like you said, you laughed it off and moved on. Unfortunately women don't do that so they are quick to complain about men.

This happens quite often to attractive men but the general reaction is to let it go and move on, something most women are incapeable of doing. Thus, the double standard.

GoldCabinetGuava · 2018-06-07T21:39:58+00:00

gay people, trannies and women are able to get away with sexual harassment openly. It's simply how our society currently works.

[deleted] · 2018-06-08T04:59:34+00:00

Serious question. Why don't we?

The reason feminism has made such inroads is because feminists have no shame. You would probably feel ridiculous going to the police for that story.

There is an entire industry revolving around removing that feeling of feeling ridiculous.

[deleted] · 2018-06-07T19:01:47+00:00

You'd be arrested duh. Men are seen as disposable. Women as valuable

NullIsUndefined · 2018-06-07T17:42:17+00:00

You understand that you are the prize. Good on you, for having self respect. I know that should be expected but many guya don't have self respect.

JustWanderful · 2018-06-07T21:50:47+00:00

You let a woman molest you and did nothing.

Maybe I can buy that.

A woman 'dragged' you out onto the dance floor?

I'm not buying this from an alpha.

[deleted] · 2018-06-07T17:15:28+00:00

If you were uncomfortable why did you not just leave? The fact that you stayed there showed you subconciously appreciated the attention even though you didnt want it on both occasions.

liberty1127 · 2018-06-07T20:07:33+00:00

Ask her to play front hand, back hand.

oprahismypapi · 2018-06-07T21:13:24+00:00

the general view on how people tend to throw male sexual assault under the bus is appalling and i’m sorry this happened to you, however i think it is important to not use sexual assault against men to undermine sexual assault against women.

monsieurhire2 · 2018-06-08T04:58:52+00:00

Ugh. This resonates.

You were basically sexually assaulted... Except, society has indoctrinated you NOT to see it as sexual assault. Because when a woman sexually assaults a man, he is "lucky." Sexual assault is unwanted sexual contact. Did you want that contact? No, you didn't. But what you are lacking is cultural conditioning to get you to object to how you were treated. Instead of asserting some boundaries, you passively went along with what happened.

I did something like this recently to avoid a situation that could have escalated into a fist-fight.

I will also say that location plays a role.

Also, what you describe is an argument for not going to certain places alone, at least if you plan on asserting your boundaries. Had you been alone, the situation could have escalated further, with the gay white knight summoning an army of other gay guys to harass you.

Anyway, as soon as someone touches you, just say, "Whoa, take it easy there, killer. Hands off the merchandise."

Also, you didn't owe them an explanation. If you don't want to kiss some skank, you don't have to.

You should try going to a script club to practice this. Here's what to do. When an ugly or otherwise undesirable stripper comes over, politely decline her advances. She just wants money, of course, as do they all, but if you lack assertiveness, you'll give in to her sales pitch. See if you can decline ALL of their sales pitches. This could provide good training for avoiding unwanted advances. Good luck!

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2018-06-08T08:13:26+00:00

It is a societal double standard but the biology of the sexes is not a mirror image. So the double standard is entirely warranted. It’s not irrational.

For one, men are physically dominant. So you are under no threat from a woman grabbing you. The reverse is not true. Women are physically vulnerable.

Secondly, the underlying dynamic is that women’s sexual psyche revolves around having control over who she allows to gain access to her sexually. Biologically men are constantly trying to access her fortress so her default stance is to disqualify. The fact that her psychology has evolved around the 9 month pregnancy and long child rearing period, a fuckup here is huge and she is wired to feel extremely “icky” around men she is sexually uninterested in getting aggressive w her for this reason. Her eggs are expensive.

The reverse does not apply. There is no biological consequence for a man if a woman were to “steal his sperm”. Sperm is cheap. It would just be casting his seed in sub par land. That’s way less biologically costly than to own a fertile piece of land and have it be polluted by shit seed. And this is assuming women are even a threat to him, which as i went over earlier, they are not due to their physical inferiority.

So, trying to flip the script would entirely flop cuz everyone understands this whole dynamic on a hindbrain level. The irrationality of the shitlib narrative is not here. This is an entirely rational double standard. The irrationality is elsewhere in their fempowerment narrative where they fail to account for the biological differences.

For example telling women to flagrantly sow their wild oats like frat boys as tho that won’t destroy their long term mate potential and leave them childless and unhaaaappy in later life.

Or like the google memo where these fucking retards who claim to be the “science” people completely ignore the scientific underpinnings about why women might be completely naturally underrepresented in tech and it’s not the fucking patriarchy. This is where the shitlib narrative is irrational. Not for getting on men’s case for sexual aggression against women while giving women a pass against men. That’s rational. (Although I agree the PoundMeToo movement has gone way to far— ceded way too much ground to stupid female antics).

[deleted] · 2018-06-07T18:58:28+00:00

Here in Seattle during the Woman's March, posters depicting a little girl looking upwards that read, "Women are perfect" were plastered all over the city. Food for thought.

There is no winning this game; you can't even hope to achieve a level playing field. You have to just play by your own rules and be content with that.

Churn · 2018-06-07T16:51:17+00:00

Flipping the script does identify the double standard...however it doesn't indicate which standard should be applied universally.

What do you guys think? Should women laugh laugh it off as comical like OP did? Or should men be just as offended when it happens to them?

[deleted] · 2018-06-08T06:12:44+00:00

Damn that was a good read! Shit like this used to happen to me all the time when I went to bars! I'm tall too and girls have randomly grabbed my dick/ass at bars when they're dunk while using the "how tall are you" line. It's messed up when you tell people shit like this and they just brush it off like it's nothing because you're a tall big guy.

riverraider69 · 2018-06-08T12:32:09+00:00

In all honesty, this is pretty much pretending genders are identical.

Women can and do sexually abuse men, but this doesn't mean you being groped by a 5' girl and you groping a 5' girl is exactly the same thing.

Implied possibility of violence is a real thing. Hell, I argued over a parking space with a neighbor a couple of weeks ago, and it was there even though nothing worse than "asshole" was said.

throwaway78991 · 2018-06-09T04:02:21+00:00

I mean it could potentially work but the problem is it wouldn't be taken as seriously as it is for women. Sure, you could go up to prosecutors and show them a video and have them take legal action but you'd probably be laughed at and made fun of by all your close friends for all I know. There isn't any empathy for men out there. You should experiment with this and accuse a girl who actually sexually assaulted you against your will and document how many people will laugh it up or take it as a joke.

theTurkeyDancer · 2018-06-09T11:56:04+00:00

imagine flipping the script again: the woman is SEVEN foot six, weighs 300 pounds, and has biceps the size of your knees... i'd rather be the 6foot6 man navigating a political obstacle course. double standards usually exist for a reason and it's usually possible to come out ahead if you keep your shit together. both probably apply here.

NewHerePlsDontBully · 2018-06-09T18:33:03+00:00

I would have just pushed her off me. She can cry all she wants after and i dont care how many blue pilled dudes come running to attack me. All i have to say is "im gay and she said she was gonna fuck me straight, she's homophobic"

If we're gonna play victim wars im gonna lie and win everytime.

theprivateselect · 2018-06-07T22:46:41+00:00

Yeah... but that's bullshit. If you wanted to knock out any of these women you easily could. The average man is much stronger and bigger than the average woman. A woman would not be able to defend herself if someone grabbed her against her will. A woman wouldn't even be able to stop the average man from dragging her into an alley next to the club and raping her. Happens all the time.

TRP teaches us that no matter what liberal media tells you, women and men are not the same. And yet here you are trying to prove some type of equivalency. The role of a real man is to protect his woman or women, not to criticize the MeToo movement.

This is the shit I hate about meninism. Obsessed with playing a victim.

balalasaurus · 2018-06-08T00:01:43+00:00

Look I get it. We see stories of injustices and question what would happen if the roles were reversed. It’s a logical progression based off a series of events, and, as we are logical creatures, typical of the male mind’s need to make sense of things.

The point you miss in all of this, is that all these exercises are a waste of time.

Men and women are never, and will never, be judged by the same criteria. Thinking otherwise implies that you have fallen for the same convoluted and irrational thought process, modern SJWs espouse today. There is no equal standard. There is only a double standard. That will all there will ever be.

How much time did you spend writing this post? How many men do you think have experienced the same or similar? How many men have wondered the same? Did your creating this post change anything in your life or the life of anyone around you? Did it introduce anything new or novel?

My guess is the answer to all those questions is no or nothing. In which case why did you post in the first place?

TRP is a toolkit. We deal with what’s real and what we can do to change that reality in our favor. If you want to rant or vent by all means do so but label it as such. Don’t try to rehash cliche observations as some newfound enlightenment. You do yourself and the men here a disservice in doing so.

Not trying to put you down. More to make you aware that what you spend your time on has consequences. Be wiser in such pursuits.

uglytoadinsauce · 2018-06-08T01:04:29+00:00

I don't find it messed up if a woman tries to force herself onto a man because any man worth his salt should be able to 'defend' himself from a woman's sexual advances if necessary. A woman however is vulnerable if a man tries to force himself onto her. I know how that sounds but that's just how it is. The real problem is that women want to go against nature and claim that they are 'equal' to men which they are not. That does not mean however that we have to play along with that assertion and 'flip the script', it would just make you look like an indignant beta.

JamesP2018 · 2018-06-08T02:38:08+00:00

She pushed you against a wall against your will? A couple middle aged women dragged you out onto the dance floor? Society won't solve this problem for you. Lifting can.

dt8933 · 2018-06-07T22:32:09+00:00

A fun story about a guy who did flip the script: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/title-ix-is-too-easy-to-abuse/561650/

SpaceEnthusiast · 2018-06-08T02:06:26+00:00

One of the first times I went clubbing, a fat woman came up to me, started talking to me, grabbed me by the balls and told me she wanted me to fuck her. I said "No". She said something like "What? Are you gay?". I said "Doesn't matter. Not interested". And then I moved away from her. I was surprised just like you. I think the empathy gap is not there because this kind of shit doesn't happen nearly as often to guys than to girls. We have no chance to build a set of reference experiences for this kind of situation. Also we don't complain because we usually don't actually fear for our safety. Especially you, 6'6" man.

Zech4riah · 2018-06-08T10:56:31+00:00

I know this wasn't the point but: Somebody has problems to set boundaries.

Man up dude.

1v1crown · 2018-06-08T15:46:47+00:00

Just wake up and go about your normal day.

Reunn · 2018-06-08T16:07:59+00:00

TIL societal standards for men and women are different from each other.

DAE think men and women are different?!?!?

dulkemaru51 · 2018-06-08T20:32:53+00:00

The problem is that the people that will automatically disagree with you are women and thirsty betas.

Women will not listen to reason, instead they will throw some incredibly moronic shit your way to prove how they are right and how you are a mysogynistic rapist asshole white cis-male and therefore wrong, to which the thirsty betas will agree, thinking that the more they agree, the closer they get to pussy.

It's not like we'll win against this injustice with reason and evidence.

As others have stated, we evolved to have empathy to delicate things (women and children) because we are big and strong and they are small and weak. We are very different and exactly the same depending on which suits the FI. It is known.

colbar3 · 2018-06-19T09:49:48+00:00

That's one of the most comically deliberate examples of harassing someone in a way that's completely undecent and completely their fault. It sounds a story someone on tumblr would make up

Yes, if that were a man and you were a woman I believe the person on the receiving end of it would be trying to make sure that you never worked again

RedPilledRoaster · 2018-06-07T20:20:15+00:00

In the end, who fucking cares

Odins-left-eye · 2018-06-07T21:38:47+00:00

FYI, at least in the circles I hang out in, most of the women who are into #MeToo would absolutely disparage those women for their behavior. I know it's TRP and we love to hate on feminists and all, but I have seen a fairly gender-neutral set of standards in my niche, including once where a woman was thrown out of a party for getting handsy with a guy and then slapping him when he said he wasn't into her.

HornyVan · 2018-06-07T22:53:28+00:00

Men and women are different. Generally speaking, a man would be more likely respond positively to a random girl grabbing him and trying to make out with him than if the roles were switched. There is a double standard at play, and it makes sense.

I understand you're taking a shot at feminism and it's claim to equality, and I agree with your sentiment. I just never liked the gender warriors going back and forth about which gender experiences the negatives of particular double standards because the fundamental differences between the sexes are always omitted from the discussion.

thatdboy · 2018-06-07T23:15:02+00:00

It sounds like you’re hanging out in Brooklyn too much lmao. I stay away from bars like this, though I guess it could happen anywhere.

Emantheman2000 · 2018-06-08T01:41:00+00:00

I completely agree about the double standard thing. I don’t think anyone would disagree. It stems from both our culture and the fact that men and women are physically very different from one another.

In this case specifically, the OP being a big guy could have, if he felt threatened, easily have defended himself. If the roles were switched however, and the 6’6 guy was forcibly trying to make out with a 5’4 girl and trying to stick his hand down her pants, she probably wouldn’t have been able to defend herself.

Somethoughts44 · 2018-06-08T01:46:19+00:00

It's not really a double standard in the sense that what happened to you is already considered sexual harassment, possibly assault. For men and women alike, many people ignore or play into sexual harassment. For example, the guy who came up to you played into the common social script that men should always enjoy sexual attention. He did what many others do, ignore your individual right to be free from sexual harrassment due to preconceptions about sex. So for a man, if he is raped or harrassed a man may feel unable to say he was wronged or is uncomfortable because he be worried about being shamed or told he should just enjoy it. This isn't uncommon. For women, she is more likely to be shamed by being blamed for inciting it, while a man is more likely to be shamed by saying he should be happy it happened. However both assumptions are wrong.

Title	What if we flipped the script here?
Author	bupkiss1290
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Date	June 7, 2018 4:17 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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