Initiations and "Playful" LMR

BobbyPeru · 2022-01-28T19:46:13+00:00

She doesn’t find you attractive- your frame or just you in general. You can’t write everything off to just being a shit test. When you get attractive she will get pissed when you dont squeeze her ass.

BostonBrakeJob · 2022-01-28T22:29:42+00:00

u/BobbyPeru is absolutely right about her being pissed when you don't slap her ass when she walks by...

...but taking your word for it that it'a playful on both sides, I'll offer a different perspective than what you've got so far:

Her switch happens when she realizes you're going to sit there like a limp dicked fuck until she initiates the actual escalation. Number 2 from your hamster list.

I dunno what your escalations look like. But if you're saying some shit like "sounds like you need the sass spanked out of you" instead of just spanking the sass out of her...then I imagine they're not as strong and unambiguous as you think they are. Too many words, not enough muscling her around. Stop giving her so much time to think about it and just do what it is you say you wanna do.

And ffs, if you aren't comfortable with "forcing" it on her and/or aren't sure if she's doing the Bill Burr stuff or not (yeah, it's a real thing....until it's not)....then give her a safe word and don't stop the next time until you hear it. Do not try having a conversation with her about what's going on in her head, what she really means, and blah blah blah. Nothing she says could be taken as the gospel truth anyway. TELL her her safeword and make her repeat it. If she refuses to repeat it after 2 or 3 attempts, "I hope you remember it." and exit stage left.

PutABabyInThat · 2022-01-29T00:12:46+00:00

I love the fun banter and creating that tension, it fits me and my style. I like initiating sex that way.

It's not fun when you're disgusted by the other person.

Especially when you live with this person and have to play along so that they don't get all butthurt and ragey.

It's work.

AlohaMaui808 · 2022-01-28T17:48:53+00:00

She's your only option for sex and she knows it.

Fix this and at least you get to the stage where she's fucking you for survival

If you don't know what I'm referencing then you're not far enough into the sidebar to be worried about this problem you think you have yet, you have beginner shit to worry about

ChokingDownRP · 2022-01-28T14:48:12+00:00

Nice, lure her to bed with the expectation of watching TV, then molest her until she's pissed or gives in to get it over with.

Game her during the day, not just when your peepee gets hard (which I guess you're calling big dick energy?).

I wish you weren't so awkward, bud.

InChargeMan · 2022-01-28T15:10:02+00:00

Ah, here's the issue, you forgot to press start after.

It's Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A THEN start.

Those are the correct buttons to push to get her to do the things you want even if you're not attractive and she isn't interested in fucking you.

ragnar_Daneskjold · 2022-01-28T15:46:38+00:00

I was genuine DNGAF

You were not this. Or if you were you can not maintain it throughout the interaction. We can see it because you wrote a pretty big post about it with a lot of she's. I also think you're lying to yourself about your humorous gaming not being ego protection in these moments.

Game is supposed to be fun but it's also great if it's suspenseful, exciting, maybe even a little scary. There are a lot of emotions you can insert into it besides jokey banter.

tightsleeves · 2022-01-28T14:31:37+00:00

Are you fit and attractive?

Are you going out and generating the "is someone else emptying his balls and going to steal him" feelings in her?

It could be a lot more complex then that.. but those are two general questions to answer

fix-the-man · 2022-01-28T17:30:05+00:00

She loves you, she needs you, but there ain't no way she's ever gonna want you,

Now don't be sad, cause two out of three ain't bad.

RedGrass411 · 2022-01-28T18:51:12+00:00

What you are missing is that she is not attracted. To you. And your calibration skills suck.

Your post reads like a Creeper's guide to Perv Game.

AcademicDumbass · 2022-01-28T19:01:30+00:00

I was in the zone last night, feeling that big dick energy and decided I wanted to fuck. I gave my wife an ass squeeze when she got home and I hear, "I don't like that". I blow past it with A&A and get a smirky, "Oh you" look with an eye roll. Later in the night about an hour or two before bed, I told her I'm going upstairs, show starts in 2 minutes. I didn't actually want to watch a show, I wanted her in the bedroom. She comes up and says "I don't like it when you order me around". I A&A everything and have fun with it and she responds positively.I was genuine DNGAF. We have a lot of flirty, jabbing banter for about 10 minutes, and there is a definite charge in the air. There is no ambiguity that I want to fuck and I'm confident we both know this. Eventually I'm ready to fuck, so I say, "it sounds like you need the sass spanked out of you" with a smile and pull her toward me. But as soon as I escalate, she throws on the brakes with LMR. It's the same script every time. Smiles and smirks during resistance for a few minutes. e.g., "Stop or I'm going to kick you!" I keep pushing because this is clearly some playground, girl-pushes-boy stuff. But after a while, the tone becomes serious. "I keep telling you I don't like it when, blah blah". All the levity and fun is gone.

Except she didn’t respond positively. It sounds like she’s resisting, not interested, and ultimately turning you down. This is a good example of why OYS threads have such a strict “she” limit. Because as soon as the first “she” appears, it reveals how much of her frame dominates you.

You’ve obviously initiated sex with her and communicated that you want her. Her actions 100% revealed that it’s a no.

What do you do next? Lay there and seethe because you’re red pilled with a low body fat %? Reread the sidebar trying to find the cheat code for your wife? Post on subreddits? Watch TV?

Or do you withdraw your attention by pursuing something else that benefits you?

Last thing I’ll say: if you’re attractive and believe you’ve figured out what you want in life, maybe your wife isn’t on board. Maybe you need to explore the option of ending the relationship. If that scares you, ask yourself why that may be. Maybe there you’ll find an answer to why you can’t advanced past this point of needing your wife to validate you with accepting your initiations.

cholomane · 2022-01-28T15:01:02+00:00

You don't have outcome independence and she can sense it. Stop building it up so much. Flirt and have fun with her then disengage and leave her wondering what's going on. Girls like to chase, not be chased.

Also...

Her: I don't like that You: I didn't ask

This only works though if you're not 100% focused on sex and are just messing with her and bossing her around because you like it and it's fun. Be outcome independent.

Title	Initiations and "Playful" LMR
Author	redside_up
Upvotes	11
Comments	36
Date	January 28, 2022 2:28 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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