This place is a revelation.

Alpha_Rising · 2016-07-13T22:36:44+00:00

Lifting is your new masculine hobby

irateMD · 2016-07-13T22:42:58+00:00

what's the MRP consensus on porn use

Fap if you want, or spend that time in a productive way. Read those books, lift weights, get finances in order, go out and socialize.

If you can't fap without porn, then it's time to cut it out completely. Porn is a complete waste of time and is a shitty form of escapism. Deal with your blue balls in the shower, if you must, or behave in a more attractive manner, game your wife, make her horny, and get your rocks off that way. Your dick's not going to fall off if you don't cum every day. Right now it's habit.

I've read a lot of advice here that adopting more masculine hobbies is a good way to re-brand yourself

Your hobbies aren't the problem. There are artists and musicians who are drowning in pussy.

Edit: autocorrect wasn't correct

stonepimpletilists · 2016-07-13T22:20:19+00:00

If you aren't taking initiative, lay off. The drive to fuck is a motivator. Discipline trumps motivation. Your high will wear off, ensure you have developed the former before you lose the latter.

Don't do this for her, thats the biggest covert contract guys still do.

Don't fuck it up.

Owned activities are just that, not for her to judge, they are yours and you are your own judge.

SteelToeShitKicker · 2016-07-14T00:05:07+00:00

I have a hobby that isn't considered masculine, yet, I used it to pick up chicks back in the day. It's all in how you do it and where you do it.

Play your instrument in your room? Beta.

Play your instrument under a tree in a park. Better.

Play your instrument on stage. Alpha

blarggggggggggg · 2016-07-13T22:27:42+00:00

Playing an instrument is not a 'gendered' hobby.

Thing is, you gotta get on a stage - even a dumb fuck dude at an open mic gets leveled-up in everyone's eyes compared to some chump sitting on their stool all night.

Adderallabuse · 2016-07-14T01:54:09+00:00

You are alone in your marriage. Always have been and always will be.

Your time, money, and attention should be conditional to those who add value to your life

Since you allowed wifey to feel she was special and had your unconditional support then she treated you as she saw you treat yourself:

Like a loser

The good news is that its fixable.

I am talking about you, not the marriage.

Oh, she may come around but it would be a whole lot easier to start fresh with a new woman.

Doesn't matter now.... The starting blocks are at TRP....

Congratulations, the rest of your life is yours to live as you please.

screechhater · 2016-07-14T03:52:46+00:00

"Porn and fapping. Porn isn't a problem for me, but if my wife isn't going to help me out, what's the MRP consensus on porn use?"

Cut the porn and fapping and use that energy to initiate. Bet you can get real courageous when you are ready to blow a load. explain how your wife won't help out, did she say this ?

"Non-stereotypically dude hobbies. I play an instrument and do some creative writing, and I'm perfectly comfortable with them, but I can understand how they come across as Beta and don't instill the tinglies in my wife. I've read a lot of advice here that adopting more masculine hobbies is a good way to re-brand yourself. Anyone else manage to square this one?"

Re-Branding ? Hobbies ? Read and Lift, and then read and lift. Cut the covert contracts, introduce dread and be consistent in lifting and quit engaging her bullshit without going fucktard and it's a new you Rebranded, done

Sepean · 2016-07-14T08:15:15+00:00

Porn and fapping. Porn isn't a problem for me, but if my wife isn't going to help me out, what's the MRP consensus on porn use?

There is no consensus. It depends on details in your psychology and relationship that we can't possibly discern. So use trial and error. Go NoFap for 2 weeks, see what happens.

Non-stereotypically dude hobbies. I play an instrument and do some creative writing, and I'm perfectly comfortable with them, but I can understand how they come across as Beta and don't instill the tinglies in my wife. I've read a lot of advice here that adopting more masculine hobbies is a good way to re-brand yourself. Anyone else manage to square this one?

I'm top 0.5% among ranked Hearthstone players and meet up with friends every other week or so to play board games. I think you'll manage writing and playing an instrument.

The way to think about this is that activities can have +/- alpha and +/- beta. Your writing and music is probably around neutral on both scores. It coild be +beta if it brings food on the table. If you sing her supplicant love songs it might give +beta and -alpha.

Don't worry about being +beta. That is fine. The important thing is to build a big alpha surplus. When the week is over you should be able to look back and see that your activities and interactions with your wife should have few -alpha and many +alpha. As long as you have that, you can fit in personal interests without a problem.

That being said, starting out you might want to kickstart your progress by reducing time spent on 0 alpha activities like writing in order to fit in more alpha.

fuzzyface1980 · 2016-07-14T11:17:15+00:00

Came over from DeadBedrooms too.

No porn. No fapping. This helped me deal with the frustration built up from years of rejection and starfish. Deal with it being right in your face. Shape it into drive via weights. Start with StrongLifts 5x5.

Hobbies. I write fiction. Paint miniatures. Lift. Grow a beard. Read. Play some video games. Watch some movies. Fuck what my wife thinks it's beta or not. Right now you do what's going to assist in bettering you.

But you get your work done first. Gym first. Sidebar literature first.

Welcome to the party, pal.

Chump_No_More · 2016-07-14T22:49:49+00:00

I started a personal inventory of Alpha and Beta traits to enhance and balance. I've immediately cut out some Beta behaviors.

Focus less (ideally, not at all) on traits on more on establishing Frame and being your Mental Point of Origin

When you're naturally in your Frame, the behaviors come naturally. So, don't force it or you'll just come off as unbelievable and pathetically desperate. You will eventually come to understand that Alpha is a state of mind, not a demographic.

For inspiration, this is the Guy you want to be...

There is no Alpha with a side of Beta, there is only the man who’s genuine concern is first for himself, the man who prepares and provisions for himself, the man who maintains Frame to the point of arrogance because that’s who he is and what he genuinely merits. There is only the Man who improves his circumstance for his own benefit, and then, by association and merit, the benefit of those whom he loves and befriends.

BluepillProfessor · 2016-07-15T15:01:15+00:00

It's really not my wife's fault that she isn't attracted to me anymore - it's mine.

The fundamental realization of MRP. Remember, the goal is to become a more attractive man and that includes your wife. The biggest problem with our approach is that sometimes the wife doesn't respond as quickly as other women- and then you have to make a choice.....

cholomite · 2016-07-13T23:58:05+00:00

My thoughts on fapping are to use it if you haven't gotten laid and it's starting to effect your mental state and frame in a negative way. Alphas have constant sexual access, so sexual frustration is a beta trait. Harness the drive from not jerking it, but don't let yourself get too far gone that it starts to have a negative effect.

Any hobby cam be masculine if you're a guy with muscles and solid frame. If you're writing some pussy fruity bullshit then maybe it will hurt your SMV a little but I don't think it will be an issue. A big strong confident man can knit and make candles and girls will still want to fuck him. Just be prepared for shit tests about the hobby. The more traditionally "feminine" you think the hobby is, the more likely and more often you are to get shit tested on it.

Hopefully you already gave away your last fuck to give so it shouldn't be a problem anyway.

anythinginc · 2016-07-14T02:58:40+00:00

I actually just read an interesting evolutionary theory about the origin of language. Short version is we don't need many words to do perfectly well in the world. You can say anything in the world with Basic English, consisting of 850 words. Yet we all probably know 60,000+++. Why? To to show fitness to the ladies. The most verbose youve ever been and the most flowery shit you've ever said and written was probably during courtship. And then you regress back to basic use. Then we invent poetry, language with a lot of rules you have to follow making it more difficult. And what do we use poetry for mostly? Courtship.

So don't diss creative writing bro.

Countpudyoola · 2016-07-14T13:41:55+00:00

Porn isn't a problem for me

There you go.

If it becomes a problem for any reason (killing motivation, not leaving enough gas in the tank to want to game wife...etc)... stop. But if it's no problem it's no problem.

Not sure if there's a 100% consensus.

I play an instrument (...) but I can understand how they come across as Beta

Does not compute. Playing in even little local bands got me enough attention to be worth the investment.

Unless it's a Clarinet....

Well, even then you could find a local Dixie Land Jazz group and it might make up for it.

If it's a French Horn there's no hope.

alphabeta49 · 2016-07-14T15:49:35+00:00

Welcome.

Porn and fapping

If you want to do it, do it. If you don't, don't. The problems come when you do it compulsively or out of boredom. Everything you do from now on should have a purpose. Even fapping.

Non-stereotypically dude hobbies

I sing opera. I sing opera because I love it. I love it so much I majored in it. Has it gotten me pussy before I was married? Yes. Does it turn my wife on? I don't know and I don't care. I do it because I love it.

Now, I also wrench on cars, build shit, and lift. There's a balance. But stop wondering what your wife will think about it. If you own it, the tingles will come in one form or another.

pildorado · 2016-07-18T16:54:14+00:00

Porn and Fapping Get away from it and reframe your association to it. What motivation do you have to try and fuck your wife if you use porn on the daily?

Non-stereotypical Dude Hobbies Playing instruments and creative writing are manly as fuck. Ever read Earnest Hemingway? Listen to the Rolling Stones? Double down on your hobbies and connect with other DUDES that are into what you are into. DUDES connect over things they do together. Go find some.

fuckmrp · 2016-07-14T02:57:47+00:00

Dear Internet,

Should I jerk off? Also are my hobbies okay?

Your frame is weak. When you do what you want without the need for the approval for others you will realize how ridiculous these questions are.

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Should I jerk off? Also are my hobbies okay?