Beta orbiters

muricanwerewolf1 · 2019-12-27T18:18:30+00:00

If a woman fucks her orbiters because she had a fight with her LTR, she’s not relationship material. You can’t control a woman, mate guarding is a bad idea, and if she wants to do it no matter how hard you try to stop it it’s only going to make her more contemptuous and more likely to stray. Break up, demote to plate, whatever but it’s not worth putting real energy into that woman. Be prepared for the love bomb once she realizes you’ve checked out though.

RPNorvell · 2019-12-27T17:28:29+00:00

You change your attitude from " How do I keep her" to " "How does she keep me." Be the prize.

Massap24 · 2019-12-27T17:02:24+00:00

Prevent what? Sluts are gonna be sluts. You don’t control women in an LTR, that’s basic shit. Just be prepared to move on and spin plates again.

Opperkech69 · 2019-12-27T17:28:02+00:00

Watch her closely and pay attention to her but stop trying to prevent these things. Trying to prevent them will only make her want to do it more. Enjoy the moments with her and if she fucks it up, so be it. You're happiness does not depend on her.

alphakari · 2019-12-27T21:16:20+00:00

I don't understand why people think they can determine if a dude is a beta orbiter.

The purpose of the term beta orbiter is so that you can know if you're orbiting. You're not going to be able to tell if someone else is orbiting because you don't know wtf is happening.

All the damn time these dudes people think are orbiting are just other guys who are fucking the girl. Why the fuck would they blow the girl's reputation up in front of your bitch ass.

Iluvalmonds83 · 2019-12-27T17:36:31+00:00

All that your friend can really control is what he’s putting into the relationship, and how he manages his own overall value. He makes boundaries on what he will and will not accept in the relationship and sticks to them, contributes to the health of it by being a good partner, and continues to improve himself and work on his goals. He maintains and heightens his value this way which naturally increases his abundance. He should also keep “orbiters” by showing off his charisma and confidence to others, and by proxy attract female interest.

When a woman sees that her man is overall abundant without her, and recognizes his high value, she will work hard to keep him and turn her attention to ensuring the relationship is nurtured and not give him a reason to drop her. Conversely, if your friend shows her that his value is low and he revolves around her in her frame, she will lose respect for him and give her attention to whomever feeds her it.

MagnumBurrito · 2019-12-27T18:53:00+00:00

She knows in the back of her mind she's stringing dudes along. She can shut that shit down if she wants to.

Set a boundary that if she has any orbiters, you two are done.

occupynewparadigm · 2019-12-27T19:29:14+00:00

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MrTheFalcon · 2019-12-27T20:47:38+00:00

This is hardwired into tribal behavior down to lions and wolves. I think you have to accept it as a fact of life.

However, if you next a woman for cheating, you'll internalize the action. Most future women will sense the boundary. You will also subconsciously vet women who are more likely to stray becuase you don't want the pain and wasted time. You'll experience less cheating by being the guy who doesn't tolerate it.

omega_dawg93 · 2019-12-27T21:38:40+00:00

"how do i prevent this?"

stop...STOP dealing with women a/o holding them to your ideals. they're human, and they say shit to decipher your emotions-not to tell the truth. in short, they LIE all day, every day... to themselves (make-up, push-up bras, etc.) and to you ("i was out with my gf's.")

they LIE about their dick count because they know most guys can't handle their true number.

in short, watch her actions and if she's having time, energy, and emotions to give to orbiters, let it be known thru YOUR ACTIONS, that you know and you're doing the same.

girls are VERY jealous and competitive by nature... with huge insatiable egos. she will hamster-away any activity that's detrimental to the relationship as your fault, or a temporary weakness... but she will NEVER give you that luxury.

when she sees your time & attention decreasing, she will stop her bullshit or make it worse. based on her actions, you have a decision to make.

never forget: "it's not your pussy, it's just your turn."

InsidiousCurve · 2019-12-27T17:50:55+00:00

Don't frequent the forums as much anymore unless it involves some new interesting content/study, but most of these posts can always be attributed to "oneitus," or you're too emotionally invested man. Girls will change at any moment based on how they "feel," so they can and will leave you at any moment. It's fucked up, but after it happens a few times, you learn AWALT and this is the way it is.

liquorbaron · 2019-12-28T05:44:38+00:00

You don't prevent it. Even being a highly valued man won't prevent it. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of relationships. You have no obligation to continue a relationship for whatever reason especially if you feel she's violated the terms of your mutual agreement. This is why establishing boundaries is important.

Infernir · 2019-12-27T23:47:56+00:00

Alcohol & drugs... they're the number one plausible deniability women use when they want to sleep with the "just a friend" or "just a coworker" or "just a classmate" or whoever they're not actually "doing anything" with.

Women are weak, indirect, covert creatures... take the strongest women you know to ever have existed, mentally or physically... AND THIS STILL APPLIES. Its built into their nature, literally, because they had to be this way to survive and to adapt to the new man they were with or fucking if their village got conquered or their city or camp. The ways to surpass this are easy - find a women who doesn't drink or do drugs, that plausible deniability is gone.

When a women "fights" you. SHE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT YOU THE ENTIRE TIME. Not about getting with some other guy... if she does this when you guys fight she was never your women ever and never will be, she has no attachment to you.

But in reality, you can never be sure... if a women wants to whore around she will, never forget the current society we live in, the one that encourages women be sluts.

However if she is with you for you she won't ever want to have anyone else but you.

If you also apply that she thinks you will leave her if she does anything at all with anyone she will never cheat even when you're around, because that fear & thought will always be there. Your word itself will be strong with her, it might not just be able cheating or anything really. If you scold her for not paying taxes 10 days early, she might start paying taxes 10 days early all the time even if you're not around.

But I guess, getting this level of investment from women is the same level you would need to create an "alpha widow"

TRP_Scepter · 2019-12-27T17:54:34+00:00

You can't prevent this. Women are gonna do what they want just like most people.

Just be ready to cut ties and move on.

hopelesshotel · 2019-12-27T20:15:22+00:00

thats the trade off with LTR’s. she’s gonna cheat, its better to learn how to be alone

2019-12-27T20:46:51+00:00

How can I prevent this? Is already the wrong question

2019-12-28T01:19:00+00:00

Screening and high smv.

Screening means getting better at identifying traits that girls with low self esteem who need beta orbiters will exhibit. For example, I will never date a girl who posts a lot of selfies on Instagram. Those girls are desperate for attention and will cheat on you no matter how high your smv is and how good you fuck them. They just need attention from multiple men to feel good about themselves and nothing will ever change that; they could be with the perfect man in their eyes but the problem is that one man just won't be enough for them and eventually they'll crack. It may be an unpopular opinion here but there are plenty of girls who don't do the whole beta orbiter thing, I know because I've found them. You just have to screen properly and don't date whores, but a lot of guys here do date whores because they like women who put out easily and who respond positively to random men hitting on them.

High smv means being very attractive and being a "catch", to the point where she feels like she's won a competition by being with you and wants to hold onto you so bad she won't play with other guys. It's not a sure thing because even the hottest guys get cheated on but the higher your smv, the better your odds are she's not going to risk losing you.

Nothing can solve this problem 100% but these two things will help.

ArnoldT1000 · 2019-12-28T06:51:32+00:00

What, would you rather have her come to you with all her problems?

Don’t be concerned about her options - Her options are her validation givers. 99.9% of these guys she does NOT see sexually; she uses them for validation. She needs to get her validation somewhere, and if you’re not giving it, she has to get it somewhere else, which are her beta orbiters and validation givers. Her having options is a good thing, not only because it will stop her from coming to you for validation, but also because it shows she has value and will compliment you well/increase your status. A fine female will always have options. Keep yourself high value with strong frame, and you will be the guy she wants.

HumbleTrees · 2019-12-28T10:06:24+00:00

Can confirm. I've been that guy. Ended up dating the girl though

Gawernator · 2019-12-28T13:21:39+00:00

You can’t prevent it. You just have to select the right quality of women for LTR. If it happens, then you are no longer in a LTR with them ever.

2019-12-28T13:30:42+00:00

You can't prevent it. You can only take an L and enforce your boundaries.

30dirtyfingers · 2019-12-30T04:42:07+00:00

Plate. That is all.

lifetraverser · 2019-12-27T21:47:39+00:00

Wouldn’t the “beta orbiter” you’re referring to actually be an alpha, cause he just uses her for sex when she’s vulnerable. Has no boyfriend responsibilities, just swoops in for a fuck. The dude in the LTR needs her companionship and has to deal with all her bullshit to get sex.

PepinoSF · 2019-12-27T21:37:02+00:00

That's why in a number of countries if the wife goes for comfort to the beta orbiter, gets beaten by her brothers and father. This simple rule ensures sound families for beta husbands. However we don't have such a privilege and have to became best version of ourself, so our mates don't cheat on us (often).

Title	Beta orbiters
Author	braincelwarrior69
Upvotes	113
Comments	62
Date	December 27, 2019 4:52 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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