I don't want this

InformalCriticism · 2016-11-27T05:58:01+00:00

You're asking a lot of questions that don't have much to do with TRP.

However, if TRP is leading you to ask those questions, so be it.

The world has been lying to us. It sounds like you got to the truth without being forced to, but you're still open minded enough to think a couple hundred thousand (or so) online people might be onto something.

You have two goals that are diametrically opposed barring rare circumstance you can't fabricate; you have a selfish goal of finding a soul mate and a philanthropic goal of helping people. Both are novelties that mix like oil and water.

If you devote your life to helping others, at least you'll have a chance at coming across that girl you like (soulmate is just a naive term for someone you don't hate and like to fuck). If you devote your life to finding that special lady, the failures (and there will be more than one) and obstacles will rend your soul and delay, or ruin, your chances at helping other people.

Focus on your career; it's the only way you're going to have anything in life. People don't like to say "money is everything" when they damn well know you have nothing without it.

Keep your lofty dreams locked up tight somewhere. Take them out when you're alone, look at them in the natural light of the present day. As time goes on, they should look different, as you grow, as you age, as you gain experience, gain knowledge, they won't look the same way they do, today.

What's the point? That's for you to decide. You make your goals, and you owe it to yourself to try to achieve them.

What the fuck do you do? I won't call you a pussy, but you do need time. You need time to grow up. If you've heard it a thousand times, maybe it might not be just some line people feed you. Maybe, it's sound advice to trust that you can't understand until you've lived a little.

You are being exposed to inconvenient truths, but that is the business of forums like these.

The title of your post is relateable. How many of us do you think want any of this to be true? Wish in one hand and shit in the other; tell us which hand fills up faster. This is real life, not a dream world. Buckle up, or don't, none of us gets out alive; you at least get to choose how you meet your end.

trudatness · 2016-11-27T23:53:06+00:00

I bet you are an LOTR fan - sound like you might be one.

Heed the words of Aragorn

Whether or not you wish the world to be a certain way is meaningless. You either rise to meet its challenges or you get torn asunder.

When we unplug we learn some uncomfortable truths.

The idea of no true love scares the shit out of me. My entire life I've told myself and have been told that the ultimate goal is to find my soul mate. To be selfless and spiritual. My entire life I've only ever wanted to help people.

There's no rule that says you can't be selfless and lead a spiritual life, just don't live one as a fool. "True love"...? "Soul mate"...? Fairy tales mostly. You're going to find out that life is a continuous process of proving oneself in just about all areas - including (especially) love.

You can still have the cute redhead cuddle on you next to a warm fire while gentle snow falls outside. You can still be a man of good character in the process.

I was in a hospital with people who were abused and treated like shit. They all wanted to kill themselves, or had horrible disorders (OCD, clinical depression, schizoaffective symptoms). Out of the 15-ish people there, 12 of them were girls. Girls that impacted my life permanently. Or so I thought, but TRP tells me it all was a lie.

So women in a controlled environment who needed to get well in order to regain their freedom and independence were nice to you...

OK that's all fine, well and good... But did you date any of them?

What we talk about in TRP (among other things) is how a woman's sexual strategy is a big part of her overall life strategy and ultimately a survival mechanism (just like it is for you). Any of those 12 women would leave you out in the cold if it suited them. Out in the wild, free from social consequence, women operate with an abundance mindset - which means ultimately you are disposable.

What you need to come to terms with is that this does not make all women bad people... It makes them.. Well... Women.

You cannot judge their behaviors based on the expectations you set on yourself. You need to accept that sexual dimorphism is a thing - and that women operate under a completely different set of social pressures than you do - and there are pros and cons to this.

Listen Chicken Little - just because a woman's love is by and large more conditional than a man's doesn't mean the sky is falling.

Women are taught their whole lives that they come first in just about all things and it never ceases to amaze me when people (men) refuse to accept the entirety of the social consequences involved in the "women first" mantra. This is nothing to be too upset about. Think of it this way - all TRP does is teach you what the actual rules to the game are (not the false rules). Then it is up to you to play it however way you want.

You want to live in service of others in search of a rewarding, spiritual life. Great! Just don't believe in unicorns while you are doing it.

The object of the game is to develop a feeling of personal mastery so these challenges don't seem all that frightful. If you manage well, then you will be at more ease and comfort.

Vryk0lakas · 2016-11-27T03:39:54+00:00

Love yourself man. Tackle your goals. Go monk mode if you want.

htbf · 2016-11-27T04:46:41+00:00

You need a severe dose of monk mode to sort your thoughts.

Are you lifting ?

RedPharaohRising · 2016-11-27T16:17:30+00:00

The Red Pill, those girls most likely were illogical robots with no capable for real love, but only a great desire for domination.

Here's the thing. You're in a location where most standard rules go out of whack because these people are fucked up.

TRP is a highly paranoid place and there is a very dark side to its ideas that can ruin people who are lost and don't know where to go.
A lot of people here, including some endorsed contributors, will parrot the same no-shades-of-gray-women-are-terrible ideas that legitimately make someone misogynistic.
Look at the responses below. It's as if no one understands the despair of something like schizophrenia (hurr durr she only wants attention she's a ho). Most people on here are fucking idiots, and don't ask for nuance and don't need it and TRP works because they just lift->approach->amused mastery.
If you aren't smart enough to generate questions, TRP is pretty easy.

I have a friend who's severely depressed, she has issues through the fucking wazoo, but is genuinely the most empathetic person I've ever met. She's NOT a terrible person even though she is gasp female. She'd walk through fire for me, and I know this because I've seen her do it before.

Don't EXPECT people to be terrible because they're women. They'll often just confirm what you expected.
Especially since you're hanging out with outliers and extreme cases.

Just don't put them on a pedestal. To sum up TRP differently, not all people are innately altruistic. Everyone acts in their own best interests. What those best interests are, is different for women. See what they do and what kind of person they show themselves to be - do they offer to pay?

Here's another red pill (which is a phrase for uncomfortable truth):
There's no soul mate - get that idea out of your head. Just a series of people who are compatible with your values and will seem to 'fit you better' + are attractive.

I just want to be happy, and keep others happy. I don't give two shits about getting some ass or making a fuck ton of money. I work out and I read and I study. That makes me happy.

You do you man, fuck what TRP thinks. All TRP really says is women ain't special, the world is out for itself, and make sure if you do something nice for someone they really deserve it or would reciprocate.

Be confident, own yourself/know yourself, dress well, be masculine - these things are good for you independent of what any dumb broad thinks.

Look, I've approached a lot of women the TRP way, and while being an asshole might impress some women, if you're not out for lays, why not just be yourself instead? This is something I've asked myself a lot. A lot of the chicks who didn't like my TRP-inspired jerkboy, maybe I could have just been myself and they'd have been interested? By becoming what TRP advocates in a slightly raw form, did I just shortlist the women who WOULD fall for that in the first place? Not enough data, but needs to be asked.

The point is, life is nuanced. TRP is IMO really most useful for people whose default setting is nice guy and need that jolt to flip before they find their happy middle ground. Because let's face it, TRP is just the opposite shade (the way you and me have come to see it) from nice guy, but it's a toolbox.
If something is very obviously false for you, ignore it.

I want to sit in my bedroom and play video games and never leave. Alone. Forever.

That's denial phase, and is the worst. Don't. Go out with no expectations and observe. It'll help you move through the other stages faster. Medicating from the truth will kill you.

I've rambled a bit, so here's my tl;dr: 1. No one is special. There are no heroes. Everything you held truth will come into question, and you must be okay with that. C'est la vie.
2. Do what fulfills you. Service? Go for it. Act in your best interests.
3. People aren't terrible, and mostly aren't cast in gold either. They're all different and you need to play that by ear. Use your senses, watch what people say, not what they do.

Whisper · 2016-11-28T01:49:31+00:00

Aw, muffin, did life not work out the way you wanted?

Be the change you wish to see in the world.

I want to lay on a bed as I watch snow fall outside. And I want my cute redhead there next to me nuzzling into my chest, mother fuckers.

I wanted that too, so I went and got it.

There's nothing special about you. You have to work for things just like anyone else.

Seriously, no one come in here and just tell me to "grow the fuck up, pussy". I've seen and heard that a thousand times, assface, it isn't doing jack shit in this situation.

Because you weren't listening. You need to take responsibility for your life. When you do, then I can help you. Until you do, it is beyond my power.

And I guarantee you that if /u/fieldline is reading this, he's laughing his ass off.

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CardioPumps · 2016-11-27T08:18:58+00:00

After reading your question, I read the replies. Wow, it's fucking amazing. So many stupid people, as always.

"Are you lifting?" - like, seriously?

"Girls were there for attention" - haha, come the fuck on.

I understand you my man. It's not an easy thing to absorb. And I'm not even saying TRP is a fully developed, totally right philosophy. IT IS NOT. TRP IS NOT A TOTALLY FUNCTIONING PHILOSOPY, IT IS NOT TOTALLY RIGHT EITHER!

I will probably write a post about this, something like, "red pill about the red pill". I'm sure it won't be a hit since people are brainwashed and don't even think for themselves. And that post will be painful; people WON'T like it.

I just want to tell you that I fully understand you. And this whole thing, it is not a problem, seriously. There is a way out. Just live the life man, don't analyze. You can find your soulmate. But, an everlasting love is just not possible. You just need to hop on and off to different girls etc. You said your ultimate dream was to find "her"; so; you've built a statue of that girl and was worshipping that. Now, break that statue, let it fall down and build another one - your life mission.

Good luck brother.

mordanus · 2016-11-27T19:33:04+00:00

Keep studying and learning. A lot of your anger and depression is because you were taught a bunch of lies. You believe in unconditional love and soul mates and the whole blue pill mentality. This whole mindset makes you see the world through terrible tinted glasses. It changes your ability to interpret reality.

Go to /r/deadbedrooms sometime and see how those guys live their life. Instead of accepting reality for what it is they pine after a lie that was told to them when they were young. Go read /r/relationships and listen to the problems people are having because they wont accept women's true nature. Google the phrase "why does my wife hate me" and listen to the men's stories about how they want exactly what you are after and nothing they ever do is enough.

Your desires are based on lies. Those lies make you think that women are somehow worth all the pain you go through to get one and all the suffering you go through once you have one. Take your blinders off and look around you. Until you understand women's true nature you shouldn't mess with them.

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Calebrox124 · 2016-11-27T06:48:13+00:00

I can relate.

I've been lurking for the past few months. I don't try and see TRP as anything more than a self-improvement subreddit, and if you wanna believe in this stuff, then you should too.

I'll quote a line I've read here before: "If Ms. Right walks through the door, do you know whether or not you'd have the mindset to attract her attention?" Use TRP as a way to fix your game and yourself. Don't overreact to little stuff, and keep your frame. Not just for Ms. Right, but for yourself as well.

Tamarin24 · 2016-11-27T07:09:57+00:00

You won't find true happiness hiding from the world.

homme_rouge · 2016-11-27T07:17:18+00:00

I say try true love! If it doesn't work you can come back to red pill!!!

MikeAlphaGolf · 2016-11-27T07:29:25+00:00

Embrace the red pill philosophy. It will take you a while to understand that the very women you seek will not be attracted to your warm hearted and people pleasing ways.

Work toward your best self. Become the alpha that you read about and the world's perception of you will change.

Put yourself first in all situations. Your Blue Pill conditioning will resist thinking that people will hate you for it but you will eventually attract great quality women and men into your life.

Read the sidebar and go from there. Good luck.

redditatt · 2016-11-27T07:58:19+00:00

Love isn't dead it's just different than we were taught.

The main difference is that the love you're talking about won't just happen. You will have to get off your ass and work on yourself to become the best man you can be. You are not entitled to true love, you can earn it though.

You can have a woman who respects you and loves you, but it won't happen to the boy that plays WoW, and it won't happen to the boy who wishes life came easy. It will happen to the man.

Apexk9 · 2016-11-27T08:16:25+00:00

Do what makes you happy.

Sepean · 2016-11-27T09:23:21+00:00

You can have a girl that loves and live with her and have kids and be happy. It's just not the fairy tale story of a soulmate. She'll not love you unconditionally, she'll love you for your looks, frame, owning your shit, SMV.

So don't slip up, don't let yourself go, don't step into her frame, don't get lazy or boring, and you can have everything you thought life was about.

The path you were on, that would have been a huge letdown. It wouldn't have worked. Be happy you found some proper guidance, and go build the life you want.

Ivetakenthepill · 2016-11-27T09:26:05+00:00

Hey bro,

I'm in a very similar situation as you are, and I'm scared too.

At first when I read through TRP it was like a boost, "here's how I become an alpha male! here's how I game women and develop the skills to become a valuable man!"

Great right? Then it begins to dawn on you that the fantasy romance you've had in your head doesn't exist, it's a big fat lie.

That's a very very tough pill to swallow, and it's sad. It's almost like a death. The death of the future that you imagined for yourself. The death of again having those warm, in love feelings that you remember so fondly. Sometimes I literally just want to pretend this is all a sham and retreat back to being the relationship guy living the lie.

I think relationships can exist, fulfilling and loving relationships, but the current structure is broken and deeply flawed. NOBODY is monogamous first off, and we need to learn to accept that. Love needs to be unconditional, and if you can love a woman knowing exactly what she is, I think that's a beautiful thing.

My advice is focus on your mission and your goals. Make that your priority. And be grateful that your woken up, it sucks for a while but you've saved yourself a world of hurt in the future. Also, you found this place for a reason, whatever that may be, don't forget it.

648262 · 2016-11-27T12:55:05+00:00

A quick summary of what you wrote looks like this to me:

"I've read on TRP that women and true love is not as it has been presented to me my whole life. TRP also tells me I shouldn't play video games. This makes me sad, and confused about my next course of action."

Love absolutely exists. Women will love you if they find you worthy and they are convinced they are unable to find anyone as good as you.

At TRP there has been a conclusion that the best girls requires a man to always be on his toes, always improve, always be the best man he can be.

And that takes time.

Spending 11 hours playing video games is 11 hours you could spend becoming a better version of you.

There's no point in lying... people gather at TRP to discuss how to become the men that women want to have sex with. That is the motive for the sub. But TRP is just one small part of Reddit. There are millions of other subs, which all somehow correlates to our collective interest in life.

My point is: there's more to life than pussy.

Do you want to become the "top dog" that people look to for advice, inspiration and admiration? Stay here at TRP, and mold yourself into the internet version of the alpha male. It takes a lot of work - probably more than what most people feel it's worth, and the output is a sense of accomplishment and that more women than now will want to fuck you.

Do you want to live life the way you see fit? Stay at TRP, but don't take everything literally.

SeaLionPrivilege · 2016-11-27T13:46:38+00:00

There's nothing that tastes as bitter as swallowing the red pill. Those thoughts you're having now? They will be glued to you for a long time. It'll pass though, sooner or later, it'll pass.

Dirkz · 2016-11-27T15:54:50+00:00

My only suggestion for life as a whole is seek the long-lasting happiness that comes with self-worth. Video games are just quick hits of dopamine. It's fine for a long long time. Then you'll start to notice you're not as happy and then eventually one day you'll say to yourself "what the fuck am I doing with my life?". When you develop a healthy physical life and set out on a mission your baseline day to day happiness is better. As you implied everything is pointless because in the grand scheme our individual lives mean nothing. Just figure out what your journey is and put yourself into motion to achieve it.

aznredpill · 2016-11-27T22:13:05+00:00

This is a great post, not only because of op's honesty but because of the replies. Thanks for the wisdom y'all

Willow-girl · 2016-11-27T23:42:13+00:00

Find your mission, either creating something of last value or making the world a better place in some way.

That's the fucking point.

byers18901 · 2016-11-28T00:40:21+00:00

It's the beautiful lie. But now you've found it out.

I feel for you man. I still struggle with this. Some days are good. Some are bad. You just have to try to make the next day better than the last. Even if it's only by the slimmest of margins.

Perhaps use your goodwill of helping people to help fellow men out? Afterall 70%+ of homeless people are men. Men kill themselves more frequently than women.

Or perhaps find a new path in life.

Other than that you should lift/read/meditate/eat clean. And I'd add write. Not necessarily to be a writer but to get your thoughts ought.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-12-01T14:42:54+00:00

Ever thought about death? Like it's pretty much non-existing and you can't escape it. One day you will die and you will be gone and you won't be self aware, forever. Eternal darkness that never stops. And you can't escape this. You were born and now you are trapped in life before death. Must be terrifying isn't it?

Don't be in love with life if you are a fighting man. Our ancestors welcomed death like a lost lover and so you should to. Make sure you live like a man and die good

Right now you are living like a boy. Im sickened by emotional manchildren who get cuddled by societies slavery and live in ignorant bliss until they get unplugged and start kicking and screaming. The life you are describing doesn't exist and is pitfall. Man the fuck up before a stronger man kills you in the civil war.

savagedealer · 2016-11-27T03:33:29+00:00

The love your looking for is a lie ... false love ... learn the true definition and you can be as in love as you fucken want

ifindshitt · 2016-11-27T02:49:52+00:00

Capisce? You mean Kahpeesh?

Title	I don't want this
Author	brontidepoch
Upvotes	24
Comments	46
Date	November 27, 2016 2:48 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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