TRP has been incorrect about 2 things for me: texting and being honest about other plates/women. I’ve had success in texting several times daily, and with saying who I’ve been with.

Musicgoon · 2021-03-23T00:42:34+00:00

You have to keep in mind that the vast majority of guys we deal with and help have Zero skill or clue what they're doing. Yes there's such a thing as text game. I do it myself. But the new guys are very very very autistic.

I've seen guys say hi and then the next message is a picture of their cock. Or one guy sent ,"I'm very horny. I haven't cummed in like 2 months". Or yet another messaged a girl and said ,"you would be really pretty if you lost about 20 pounds".

You're talking advanced level game to most guys that don't read the sidebar or can't understand it. When you're good with game, you develop your own style.

You have to think that most guys have a thought. It's their 2 malformed brain cells lethargically dry humping each other. And they let out a fart which is a great thought to them. So they act on their fart of a thought and women are absolutely disgusted and appalled by their lack of social intelligence and understanding of female nature.

It's not that we are wrong. It's just you've graduated from a complete clueless rookie to someone that has skills.

JohnZoffman · 2021-03-23T00:37:56+00:00

I have a friend who "simps" hard. Telling girls how pretty they are, why such a pretty girl is single, all kinds of shit i heard on trp that you shouldnt do, and he still bangs the girls, they fall madly in love with him, and he is average height, average face, fit body. He also is giving the girls alot of non sexual attention, yet he pulls more girls than anyone i know.

Guess if a girl is attracted to you, its hard to fuck it up

Noodlesoupe2 · 2021-03-23T01:11:18+00:00

Welcome to not being a drone 101. Being a robot who only follows red pill rules is stupid unless you’re a newbie.

Vicco_ · 2021-03-23T01:27:06+00:00

Game is different for everyone. So many variables and constants to consider, adapt and be flexible with.

For example. If you have good looks, then running pleasant guy Chris Hemsworth charisma game would work better.

If your looks aren't great then you have to step up indifference/mystery game.

But then again, if you don't have looks but you have a good sense of humor, then indifference game wouldn't do you any good.

At the end of the day you have to really look inside to know yourself better. What your strengths are.

When you run game you should never sacrifice your inner peace and joy to act or portray a certain character.

Returnofthemack3 · 2021-03-23T01:45:25+00:00

I mean, if the girls are into you and /or you're attractive enough, texting semi frequently won't hurt you. With that said, look over at the phones of some of these girls and you'll likely notice they have a host of orbiters. Trp is trying to prevent you from falling into that trap and recommends texting for logistics / infrequently at the outset. Obviously, as one becomes more attractive and successful, they can and should text more because it's already established that the girls into them and offering sex

Used_Hovercraft9634 · 2021-03-23T00:58:13+00:00

Yeah honesty is really a hidden gem with women

Efficient_Film_149 · 2021-03-23T02:35:18+00:00

Where you been reading? I’ve been telling mfers to just be completely straight up with girls. It’s a proven way of keeping hoes around.

mrmaskfawkes · 2021-03-23T03:17:33+00:00

Yeah I generally give the same advice to a few people with posts. Its hard to make drama when communication is clear. It was a hard lesson o learn, but frankly when your open most women don't care as much as you think. Even Rollo only advocated that you not ask about body counts because her past doesn't matter that much in the long run. Simplicity is best when dealing with people and honesty makes things so simple, because people can't fault you when your transparent. Its like blaming someone for not eating when they said they weren't hungry and didn't want the food. It always puts the ball in the other person's court.

CompetitiveAd4912 · 2021-03-23T12:55:05+00:00

I use Text Game sometimes If there is a Connection via Chat. I enjoy talking to some hot Girls over Text too, so why not do it. I am often busy, I sometimes don't reply for 1-3 days when I don't feel like it or have shit to do, but when a girl texts me and I see it and Im not doing anything Important I will reply within a few minutes, nothing wrong with that

Kuneyah · 2021-03-23T04:28:22+00:00

Noted...thanks bro

mrsmiley831 · 2021-03-23T05:56:23+00:00

Being honest and telling women that you're seeing other women is TRP way, not sure where you heard otherwise.

The "text only for logistics" is for beginners to prevent them from sounding autistic. Most guys have zero text game. I've found that a few texts during the week is fine.

ChrimsonChin988 · 2021-03-23T12:03:46+00:00

I completely agree with you. However, the reason TRP exists is to suck BP men out of their conditioning. And I think the best way to explain this is by analogy.

Imagine a boat is off course 10 degrees to the left. To get back on course, you have to overcompensate, meaning steer by more than 10 degrees to the right for a while, let's say 15. After correction, the steer can once again go back in neutral and you maintain that course.

It's like this with TRP, you have to go deep and hard at first because you were lacking for quite some time and eventually you moderate after getting back on the right course; like you did. You cannot start with moderating because the 'course' would not be adjusted sufficiently, you first have to overcompensate in the other direction and this takes 1-2 years.

Herr_Roidobertoro · 2021-03-23T13:11:40+00:00

"Don't kiss and tell" is basically only useful if you are not having sex with anyone else. My first wife fell for me because I rawdogged her friend.

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MoreAlfa · 2021-03-23T00:19:04+00:00

Wrong two times but how many times has it been correct in all of your "been rp for years"?

Capital_Recognition · 2021-03-23T00:57:49+00:00

I think your application of these two things has simply been incorrect, and that’s why you haven’t been effective using them. Or, maybe you just never totally understood what it was about.

Firstly: It seems as if you’re taking the easy way out of this, or don’t understand it entirely, and at what added cost/benefit? Dealing with a woman’s bitching is part of the job, and you have to accept that to be successful at this. It’s what “holding frame” is meant for. Don’t try to run or hide from the fact that they’re like this, look it in it’s face and accept that it’s in their nature and there is nothing you can do about it. Then, devise ways to deal with it, e.g. hold frame, use humor, et cetera.

Also, you’re giving them what they want, great (sometimes). But, you’re probably giving them too much of what they want in the process. Them bitching is a signal that they’re trying to shake you and see how effective your frame is. So, instead of texting them the same amount you were, you should have thrown some curve balls in once every week or so, and gave her some attention. But, definitely not on a consistent basis. And, definitely randomly. It’s push pull, bro. This is a perfect example of the application of push-pull. And that game is much more effective than the other way around, and it’s also less work for you in the grand scheme, more time to focus on yourself.

Secondly: It’s not about lying. It’s about being Machiavellian toward women, or cunning. No need to lie, but also no need to divulge the truth. The idea is to make it so she can’t figure you out. Once again, much more effective and advantageous.

Aubrey_D_Graham · 2021-03-23T02:12:12+00:00

? Preselection whether overt or implied is necessary to be attractive. Honesty is necessary if you want long lasting plates. She needs to know that if she slacks, a different plate can be spun and take her spot. Where's the lie?

halleluiaiaia9292 · 2021-03-23T06:02:11+00:00

100% agree. When i stop texting and giving comfort much bigger chance of losing the plate.

To keep some mystery i stop answering randomly (not on purpose, just lose interest after a bit).

That seems to be the right balance for me

SublimePimp · 2021-03-23T14:21:52+00:00

That’s because women have become increasingly whorish and media is condoning it. Perhaps an update is in order

jjj2576 · 2021-03-23T01:51:26+00:00

I respect your view, but disagree.

If I have time to text, I have time to do something of value— it’s that fucking simple for me. I should fill my day with more fulfilling activities.

PurpleLemon4de · 2021-03-23T02:53:36+00:00

Y’all ever heard of push pull? Bro pull isn’t the only option you gotta switch it up so girls always got you on their mind

downvotesanimals · 2021-03-23T04:36:42+00:00

Old Grey mare, she ain't what she used to be.

Don_Draper27 · 2021-03-23T14:43:54+00:00

I can text, but I really don't like to. I can be witty and peak a girls interest, but I personally do not like being disturbed / distracted.

I've been jiving with the "work hard, play hard" mindset and it's given me grand results. I've been getting praise from my professional superiors, and I'm much more present and outgoing when I'm with friends or a plate.

For a newbie, "give the illusion that you're busy" is good advice, but it's "faking it till you make it" until you actually are busy with your mission and life.

UEMcGill · 2021-03-23T16:16:45+00:00

I'd actually posit that you proved that low and behold, texting is for logistics.

to add to what u/Musicgoon is saying to you, you're using texting for bitch-management. What we tell the retards with texting is, you are not there to deliver emotion. When a chick wants to fight, you never do it over text. When a chick wants to get to know you, you never do it over text. You can't judge or deliver emotion well over text. You can set the mood, you can set up for later, you can even get her to do naughty things, but in the end, it's a tool, aka logistics.

If I send a text with a funny little neg, it's not about actually flirting, it's about maintenance. The problem with many people, younger guys specifically, they will use texting as their only channel of communication. It should never be a replacement. If you can call instead of text, call. If you can meet instead of call, meet. Text is the last resort.

So I say again, texting is for logistics. Advanced texting, is for advanced logistics.

2021-03-23T17:49:55+00:00

Eventually you'll reach a point where plates spin themselves.

I have three plates right now I'll almost never speak to unless it's logistics. In the beginning you do usually have to text them more to build rapport. After you've fucked them though you can just lean back and let the plate spin herself.

DerekMorganBAU · 2021-03-23T20:41:15+00:00

Telling the truth for me has NEVER worked. Ever. They go along with it then they bottle up their resentment or they slip through the back door exit. That's been my experience anyways.

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