Why do we care about average people in some areas but not others?

kclanton80 · 2021-04-17T17:53:29+00:00

The concern is not just about the potential failure of the marriage. The concern is the lack of benefit for a man in actually being married.

Just because you might be able to make a marriage last does not necessarily mean it will be a happy,fulfilling, or fruitful Union.

unamedasha · 2021-04-17T18:21:44+00:00

Half of marriages end in divorce. It's true but the rate drops when you only count first marriages. The rate also changes when you account for different demographics. (You have better odds if you're white, college educated, affluent, older...). It's also important to remember that divorce isn't the only bad marriage outcome, you could windup in a dead bedroom with a witch for a wife.

JackTheRipper_17 · 2021-04-17T17:36:51+00:00

Good question. Do not put yourself in that group then. If you truly believe that she'll add value to your life long term, marry her.

Vegetable-Ad5980 · 2021-04-18T03:48:28+00:00

to be honest after being redpilled for a while and actually having experience unlike most of these guys here. it always seemed weird how these communities are so obsessed with everyone else especially when its clear how pathetic they are in general. honestly who cares about some random ass dude who cant get his shit together its not my problem.

from someone with actual stable parents and family on both sides who never divorced and seeing the differences in my friends and families parents who stay together and divorce the key difference in the marriages that fail and the ones that dont are these things im about to list.

first look at the top reasons for divorce.

cheating,financial issues, arguing, and lack of intimacy

cheating,arguing,and lack of intimacy can all be attributed to a. letting yourself go, be that physically or mentally and becoming beta, b. due to lack of respect from letting said self go, which indirectly translates to losing respect for even yourself which your woman will clearly pick up on. and c. the most depressing one which is not doing your part as a man sexually and not being dominate and having boring same sex treating it as routine. if you have a small dick im sorry but this one is kinda non controllable for you.

second financial issues which just cause so much stress and amplify all the other problems to a thousand due to said stress. a woman seeing you financially weak and unable to handle things will lead her to not have trust in you as a suitable partner because your clearly undependable. you should i REPEAT not be a beta provider but you should show you can be able to provide a comfortable living situation if possible and your life is not a wreck.

now we getting to the meat and bones which is COMPATIBILITY. a lot of dudes even on redpilled subs don't seem to understand that for a long term relationship you need someone you will never be able to be tired of or not enjoy their company which means unironically friendship and respect. a lot of dudes on here dont get that you can be friends with your woman while having her respect and love you as a masculine male. this unironically comes down to mentally and shit testing and not letting yourself lose your edge and playing on a womans natural desire to submit. i can go more into this but its ultimately way to long as it is.

next is sharing the same world view and outlook on society and culture. THIS IS CRUCIAL. if you guys dont share the same morals and cultural ideas on society it becomes infinitely more difficult to built a positive long standing life together because you two will go in opposite directions lifestyle wise. this already hard enough with roommates let alone someone who is your partner.

next is the smv difference of power. i repeat never and i mean never get in a relationship with a girl with higher smv. the power and social dynamics are just twisted and fucked up and will emasculate you and make you seem to her not as much of a catch or a man. preferably also avoid girls with equal smv for a ltr if possible also. i dont mean marry a ugly girl but marry a girl who is clearly a bit below you in smv be that socially, career or looks wise. it leads to peace in the relationship because she is greatful to have you and sees you as above her which goes into hypergamy etc. make sure she knows you have OPTIONS and can leave at ay time but yo u guys choose to stay together this is important.

also pay attention to the class of the women your with. never get in a ltr with a slut or low class girl. preferably aim for a girl with good parents and went to college with a good gpa. you know the basics.

never date a ghetto or trashy girl mental illness and problems is rampant in these types and they come from broken homes which means they usually cant and have no idea how to build a stable healthy home of their own. sadly these are most of american women these days so those types who actually have self respect and are raised from a good background are exceedingly rare these days.

lastly pay attention to the femininity of the woman your dating all women are feminine at heart but make sure the girl is stereotypically for the most part and has some personality quirks and stuff that your compatible with.

all the men who never get divorced ive seen have all of these usually down lock without realizing it consciously. every man who got divorced always lacked or fucked up in some aspect of this whether he wants to admit or not.

a lot of western culture is extremely fucked up and skewed in how to be a man and have self respect in a marriage. most [native africans not african americans], arabs, latinos and some traditional asians have the right idea about how to conduct yourself in marriage and raise a family.

DLifts777 · 2021-04-17T20:46:56+00:00

I think the main difference is that with the gym or a healthy diet it's all within your control. Whereas with marriage you're relying on somebody else to do their part.

Also, as others have mentioned, the '50% of marriages end in divorce' is skewed, because it is much lower for white, 25-35 y.o college-educated first-marriages. If you want to have kids with a woman who has any self respect then she will expect marriage; because she knows she's high value and can get that commitment off someone else. This idea that you can just get her pregnant and she'll be okay with it is naïve, that only works with trailer trash.

TheOffice_Account · 2021-04-18T00:22:08+00:00

Most people who sign up for a gym membership will never use it. But we should still sign up and lift.

This is 100% under your control.

Most people who try to eat healthy fail, but we should still do it.

This is 100% under your control.

Most people who start a business fail, but we should still try.

Eh, not so sure.

LTRs and marriages.

Maybe only half of this under your control. It's a risk, so you need to decide if this is good for you or not.

failingtheturingtest · 2021-04-17T20:15:14+00:00

Your comparisons don't have consequences. The main argument against marriage is that "doing it right' gains you nothing you didn't already have, and getting it wrong costs you half your material wealth alongside whatever other issues it introduces.

If someone told me half the people who took vitamin c saw no benefit, the other half reported feeling better sometimes, I'd see no problem taking it. If someone told me half I'd the people who took vitamin c lost a limb from it and the other reported feeling better sometimes, I'd never go near the shit.

drewcer · 2021-04-17T21:45:30+00:00

The logic is different because you have total control over your performance in the gym, whether you use it to improve or not. If you marry a woman and you don't know what her intentions are, you have no control over her decisions.

She can take your kids and take half your assets and you're SOL.

It just means vet properly and invest in the things you have control over. Don't rush into marriage with anyone - especially if you want to keep your freedom - because marriage benefits women way more than it benefits men. In general of course.

If you meet a woman who understands all this, you've dated her for several years, and you've vetted her character thoroughly, and you've decided you'll be happier marrying her, by ALL means marry her. Especially if she's willing to put proper work into the marriage / relationship and make sure it's mutually beneficial.

The advice to men is not to NEVER get married, it's to simply be extremely careful because there are so many potential downsides. Understand what you're getting into.

319Skew · 2021-04-17T17:43:49+00:00

There's a duality here. Focus on yourself and your life but be mindful of your environment.

I don't care if my peer decides to cut off his dick and role play as a woman. I will care if I'm forced to treat that person like a beautiful woman.

Also while we live a life that ends in a solitary death, we live in a society and should care about what goes around.

Mr-Blonde123 · 2021-04-17T20:48:28+00:00

If you are aiming to be a high quality man with the sole aim of women you need to re assess your priorities.

Be a high quality man for yourself firstly, it spills out into other areas of your life. Sometimes you will fail,sometimes you will experience success. You create the vision for the life you want and the women will appear.

9warbane · 2021-04-18T03:10:34+00:00

Shouldn't even live your life because you'll just die /s

Don_Draper27 · 2021-04-17T19:01:14+00:00

You can still build and enjoy the "perks" and rewards of being in a committed marriage, but there's zero benefit for a man to bring the church and courts into it.

The only reason why thousands and thousands of dollars are wasted on a marriage is so that the woman can rub it in their friends' faces for just one day. that's really all there is to it, besides pressure from religion or culture, but it's beta as fuck to be guilted into doing anything.

You can decide to have kids with a mommy / wifey type, but again, no reason to bet half your assets and throw thousands of dollars to an overpriced day or a honeymoon which is honestly just a vacation, which you can take with a plate as a reward to her.

Kyomeii · 2021-04-18T00:44:21+00:00

It's not up to one's own determination if a marriage fails. It is something that is often times does not depend on your own action. You can not control other people.

I am not 100% opposed to living together with a woman for life, but marriage is bullshit. But you need to pick your woman right. And even then, you can't control how she could change with the years.

I am from a conservative background, so I would like to get together and have children when I'm older, but it's a big gamble that more often than not, does not pays off.

armenian_UwUcide_ · 2021-04-18T00:18:18+00:00

The “I’m an alpha male but I’m dependent on my gym so I pay a marked up monetary rate for basic exercise” terper strikes again

itiswr1tten · 2021-04-17T19:15:53+00:00

It shouldn't.

SuckOnMyCybercock · 2021-04-17T20:13:50+00:00

It’s about risk/reward

tetrachromancy · 2021-04-18T00:44:29+00:00

I don't see a difference in logic in your examples. The overall theme is to not do what the mediocre people are doing. They are following their emotions, while we are being rational.

saiyantmr · 2021-04-18T01:19:48+00:00

Just like hitting the gym no one guarantees you’re going to look like Chris Bumstead, but you clearly have a lot of benefits you discover along the way

Title	Why do we care about average people in some areas but not others?
Author	bordstol
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Date	April 17, 2021 5:15 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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