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I know everyone pushes direct openers but If you have this level of social anxiety start with indirect openers. Start with being super indirect and have no intention of asking the girl out etc and over time slowly build up to having longer and longer conversations, when you get better with that start introducing intention and eventually ask for her number or Instagram. Have a plan written down of how you intend to progress and try your best to stick to it.
For example
Monday - ask 20 girls for directions, so just say "excuse me do you know where the nearest Starbucks is" then walk away when she tells you
Tuesday - same as Monday but add a cold read before you leave - "you're not from [name of your city] are you", " no I'm from xxxx", "I thought so have a nice day"
Wednesday - same as previous day but add something about her reply, "really xxxx such a nice place why did you move here"
If you follow this pattern you can take baby steps and hopefully get over your shyness and get comfortable talking to girls. Start with purely friendly conversations, When you're ready you can add non physical compliments to start indicating intent like "I love your energy you're so chill", slowly make the conversations a bit more flirty with eye contact, smiling, moving a bit closer and then eventually get to a point when you're comfortable saying "I'm going have to run now but you're going to have to give me your number as it was really fun talking to you"
The important things are baby steps and writing down what you intend to do each day and what you actually achieved to keep yourself accountable.
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No worries, the example above was just an example be kind to yourself plan a pace that you think you can realistically stick to and if you get stuck at any point just rewrite your plan of progression. Even if it take you 3 months to get to a point where you're comfortable having a 3 minute conversion with a girl that's a bit flirty and ends with you getting her number that's fine, see what works for you.
[–]Top_Client9752 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Start by starting conversations with everyone you cross paths with throughout your day. Men and women alike, with no agenda other than acknowledging another human and passing a few moments together.
Speaking to men as well makes you appear more sociable and less predatory.
The conversations don’t need to be long. Maybe a compliment about their style , and a simple question about how their day is going, or what the highlight of their week is.
If you need tips on how to keep the conversation flowing and connect more deeply, I’ve previously detailed it here.
Consider joining community groups, attending workshops etc that are likely to attract people with common interests and values. It’s much easier to connect with people when you already have something in common.
[–]GabeDrumBeats7Seals -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Less predatory. Lmao only another male would say it like that. Or he could get a job and go from there.
[–]lifeintraining 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The best advice I can give you is to be confident. Don’t go into any social interaction trying to “win” or impress anybody. You are your own self and not everybody is going to appreciate you. As long as you’re comfortable with yourself then you’ll be able to approach social situations with no fear.
[–]Resident_Afternoon48 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you can be unfortable with yourself and that is okay. A bad day etc etc. The trick is to be okay with that. and not to "take" from others. Just give. without wanting the deed/compliment/attention back. Not all wiill love you is good advice. I made the misstake when young believing all are the same. Nope. Not at all. But most people you can have an enjoyable convo with. This became something for me: There is something worth talking about/knowing about them. Maybe they had a particular experience growing up with a lot of dogs, or work as a chef, a stewardess. I love hearing about it. Was not always like that though ^^
[–]drunken-_-redditor 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eye contact and smiling go a long way. In general If someone just simply says hi and they have a nice smile and eye contact you’d be more receptive than someone who isn’t.
The second part is knowing when it’s appropriate to approach and strike up a convo. If they’re busy with headphones in their ears and speed walking you can assume they are probably not gonna be as open to hanging around for a 10-15 minute convo. This is especially the case in nyc.
But I want you to notice something, everything I said above applies to both GUYS and GIRLS.
If you don’t have a problem with speaking to guys or creating friendships with guys. Then it may not be your social skills. But more so that you’re viewing the woman you see on a pedestal which could be what gets you nervous.
At the end of the day, women love great conversations too, they like making new friends, and they like fun charismatic people(regardless if you’re introverted or extroverted).
[–]Maximum-Malevolence 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Are you trying to date them or just talk?
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[–]Maximum-Malevolence 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Oh ok. Well I'm not pimp of the year, far from it. In my opinion, when you approach her keep your back straight and head up! No wet noodle shit.
Introduce yourself first and ask her name. For starting small talk always remember the FORD method. Family, Occupation, Recreation, Dreams.
Stay Away from RAPE unless she seems comfortable discussing these topics (Religion, Abortion, Politics, Economics)
I hope this helps. Best of luck!
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[–]Maximum-Malevolence 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah you right it is Exes. Man you never know what kind of shit could happen lol
[–]Resident_Afternoon48 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
srsly though, What is the problem with exes? It kind of becomes warped but It is interesting imo to hear what type of relationships they had and how they handle breakups etc. Says a lot about their personality and heart/mind.
But yeah, navigation instruments are not so reliable when navigating those waters. Too much, too little. You never know what they react to and how much.
[–]Resident_Afternoon48 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is a good point!. Because ones own relationship with that person will be formed/could be tainted with the ex-talk. Better after a while. But is probably is a difference between 2 hours or 5 minutes which normally it comes up. "Why did you move there?" my ex bla bla. ah okay, long time together?/recent breakup. Relevant info. I like to remind myself to be grateful for the exes. Without them I wouldnt meet them today.
[–]miles1776 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
☠️☠️☠️☠️
[–]jesuslover333777 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Idk sounds like something the pimp of the year would say🤔🤔
Lol 😂
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[–]Maximum-Malevolence 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your welcome
[–]xxchhfdd35325 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good plan start w non threatening women and people
Great! It becomes easier to date if you just talk to people. It allows you to give and enjoy conversations without a purpose other than to have fun. It will lead to other part aswell.
Take baby steps with more people and you will find yourself more comfortable. And learn to ask open ended questions and listen to the answers and follow up with curiosity and remember to relate it to yourself as to maintain a balance. And let yourself enjoy the answers, without thinking about the next step.
[–]Resident_Afternoon48 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where: tinder, Bars, etc etc. How: I dont mind pointing out something if they look like someone or if I am genuine about a perfume, clothes, vibe etc. But I do analyze my interest and act on it.
I dont expect anything back other than it feels good to give to other people. I do this to anyone though. The trick when giving compliments is to do it specifically.
When I go out alone I mostly do bar hopping as it makes many new encounters possible. One beer, one bar :) and tbh it doesnt matter what you say, just as long as you say it.
if you overhear something: "I overheard you saying that". But do be mindful of how welcoming people are depending on the culture. Where I live I do excuse myself or ask them if I could join them for one beer. The best thing is someone understanding and respecting group dynamics without overtaking them completely imo.
Or you could use Tinder or other dating apps. Write you are new in town in description perhaps.
However! Quick tips for spontaneous meetings 1 on 1.
I would tell them if I were the main part or early convo would be: Hey, I am new to town etc etc.
It is a great opener and opens up to a lot of other fun stuff. Where to go, dream places, where you have been, how it is being new. Even how to approach people.
It touches at surface and also depths if people allow it.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The same way you'd start a conversation with any other gender.
[–]epimpstyle 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
An example ?
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"hey how's it going"
[–]RedditsOlderBrah -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
do you need to strike up conversations with strange women for some reason? you know you can just hang out with your friends? meet people through friends of friends and such?
don't get me wrong i think it's good you want to become more sociable, but you're stuck at saying 'hi'. i suggest if you really want to pursue this you see a therapist and work through it professionally and not through this sub.
[–]CopyDry9247 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you know you can just hang out with your friends? meet people through friends of friends and such?
Been hanging with my "friends" for a long time now and never see one girl introduced to the group lol. Some have wives and gfs but never met one single girl through them.
[–]WeaselRobot -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing wrong with talking to new people. As many others have said, men too. I'm bi, but even if het, you can get new friends that way.
[–]curisax 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
type in 'infields' in youtube to get an idea.
[–]epimpstyle 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
IRL is not working as you see on youtube unless you are a teenager :-)
Also, do you have a method to find out if the video is real or not? What if those videos are staged like "gold diggers" ?
I have explained a version of a simple approach here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/xlsz9c/comment/ipl0bkn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
[–]V-Future 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I usually ask her name first and if she asks my name back is because she is interested in me. If she's not, I will leave the interaction immediately without any damage.
Otherwise, it would be something like: -Hi my name is Neil Armstrong, how is your name? +Who? -My name is... +Who asked you? -Uh... +Stop talking to me, I don't care who you are, leave me alone.
It happens all the time but these weirdos from YouTube will not show you this part.
And don't interview women because is boring as hell. Don't ask for her siblings, what she does for a living if she lives with her parents, no... It's stressful. Remember you can do whatever you want to a woman except bore her. Just talk about other stuff, she's not applying for a visa or a scholarship. Please don't make invasive and personal questions when you meet her.
Just keep it casual, simple, non personal. Have fun, don't judge her and don't try to impress her.
[–]OpenHeight6562 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
don't interview women because is boring as hell. Don't ask for her siblings, what she does for a living if she lives with her parents, no... It's stressful.
So what are the first questions you ask after you meet a girl at the bar and say 'hi'. We know we can't ask her age or about her family or what she does for work etc.
Can you give some examples?
People always say like 'ask her interetsing things like what she would do if she won a million dollars', but I tried that a few times with girls in bars after saying hi and I think they thought I was a complete weirdo for asking that lol. Made me wish i'd just been normal and asked her about herself (break the rules and ask her what she does for a job or about her family lol)
[–]V-Future 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When a girl is looking at me, I say something like "Hi, the voices in my head are ordering me to talk to you... What's your name?" she usually smiles and tells me "I'm Laura, what's your name?". Playfully, teasing her, having fun, nothing serious, nothing nervous or awkward. "By the way, I like your tattoos. Which is your favorite one? tell me your story" or "Which is your favorite cocktail/dish from this bar? I wanna try something new" just don't be predictable, serious, or try-hard. Just assume she's very attracted to you and act accordingly, respectfully, and don't invade her personal space UNLESS she starts to touch you first.
[–]OpenHeight6562 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thx
[–]zapadz 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08sXxIx6ots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGYy_QKRS4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu-wFuDqZws
Try the free “start conversations with women” video here http://davidtianphd.com/masterclass-content/
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When I approach girls, I glance at what they're wearing, what they're holding/carrying, etc. And make convo. there. I couldn't give a shit less whether I ACTUALLY care about what they're wearing or how nice they look. I'll just pretend I do. For instance I'll be like, hey I like how your did your eyeliner, what's your favorite makeup? And really not give a shit about it at all but would listen just because it's a conversation that strikes up a girl's mood to get her started and to be able to feel herself/feel comfortable/natural. lol
The most important thing fact though is to NEVER fear rejection. Ever. You can't really give a shit about 'em. lol. The right one will eventually come. Trust me. Let them come to you don't go to them. lol
[–]HomeschoolProm 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Hey, bottom text”
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This gets asked multi-weekly. You haven't tried for even 30 seconds. Fuck off.
[–]burncushlikewood 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here's a great video on conversation, I believe opening is very simple, you just ask her name and introduce yourself, the middle and end part of the communication is most important, this video is attempting to tackle a very complex part of seduction, which is the verbal aspect, what to say and when to say it https://youtu.be/KBBnve-LcFo
[–]GabeDrumBeats7Seals 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting a job is an easy way to just build the confidence. But one where you have to interact. Simple.
[–]TheRealAlkemyst 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
saying hello is not a bold move. It was common not so long ago.
[–]Hister333 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just say, "Hi, I have a felony."
[–]iiexistenzeii 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like you start conversation with anyone else
[–]Gaydame 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you are socially introverted don't go direct... Yet!
Step by step. If you can talk to guys, you can talk to girls. Just do exactly the same as you do with guys and ignore the fact that they're girls... For now
Once you're comfortable talking to girls the same way you do with guys, then you can introduce a sexual element, but don't do this until you're comfortable with step 1, which will probably take a hundred or so approaches.
Good luck!
[–]mfposgbcs 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just gotta work up to it.
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