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[–]electrisio 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
30 a day?! I can’t do more than 10 before I’m socially wiped out. Ignore the guy saying 100+ a day, that is just stupid.
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[–]electrisio 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cold approach is all about vibe management. If your doing that many your vibe will be off, either because you get tired, hungry, socially tired and the girls will pickup that your a spam approacher. There aren’t enough hot girls to approach 100 times in a day, unless someone paid you to live in a city centre as a full time job 😂
[–]Lon4reddit 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
2.5M you're lucky, there are plenty of options. I do see probably 10 approachable girls on a day where the street is not unknown to me. Do i approach them all? noup, working on it after a LTR. But when i used to do it, it got my results skyrocketing pretty high while living on a 100k city.
[–]rhofire 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn't there a bigger city close to where you are?
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[–]rhofire 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I dont think its the city issue.
You're right, actually. It's you. You're full of excuses.
Go to a city near you and approach there if there aren't enough women where you are.
[–]Rastaman143 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
30-50 a week is a good amount of volume without sacrificing too much time on the street. Give limited amount of time to chasing women
[–]Andetag 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It’s like that sometimes even in Midtown Manhattan for me. I don’t know where all these guys are finding beautiful women in the daytime. Only at nighttime will you find a lot at once.
[–]Kidcouger 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know a guy that would approach almost any woman to get practice in so chances are they’re not all attractive
[–]Andetag 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That reminds me on a a anecdote I read about an RSD instructor. He would go to the mall to chat up women rated a 6 but only bc it would warm him up for events like Maxim and Art Basel parties.
[–]Zangief89 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Checkout a game on Amazon called Chickenshit. I play that at the beach or bar and it allows me to approach a lot of sets
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Amazon Opener
Calling it now. THIS is the hottest technique of 2022
[–]OkResponsibility24700 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
cold approach is low risk low reward imo (ESPECIALLY if you're only average looking). you're better off pursuing other social avenues to meet women
[–]Chance_Base_854 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is sad... and also why women buy wedding rings when they're single.
[+]kiramdahanett -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
anything below 30 a day-specially if you don't have plates-isn't worth it , to make daygame worth going out you should go to metro stations or main streets of big cities at rush hour & aim for 100+ approaches a day , someone like mike mehlman does 200 something per day but he's a legend , i'm not.
*if you don't have plates or you're in a dryspell or you're a total noob , 30 is pretty low , you should aim for 100+ .
my highest is 35 women a day which is still pretty low , extremely low but since i managed to fuck 2 of those it made me lazy af & gave me an unnecessary ego again .
been going shit lately , 10-15 a day at most & my goal is to hit at least one 100+ before i turn 22.
[–]Wolfing731 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wtf are you even aiming for to be casting such a massive net? Investors for your business idea?
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[–]Wolfing731 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Understandable, have a good day
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[–]yoitsappy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If that's you in your profile picture then 10 a day is enough
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[–]electrisio 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
This guy is chatting nonsense, 30 a week is the suggested amount that is going to give results and not be too much, although 30 a week is likely too much for some people anyway.
[–]kiramdahanett -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
U need more confidence , chicken .
[–]electrisio 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
That makes no sense, why do you need more confidence to do 100-200 approaches vs 5-10. It’s logistics that is the issue. Doing that many approaches isn’t smart at all because you become robotic and become a spam approacher, which the girls will pick up on.
[–]Rich-Anteater-9468 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You cant argue against mike mehlman. I know him too. His body count is near 2000 if not more than that. He can get laid by new girls multiple times a day. He lives in Osaka Japan and can afford to approach literally all day every day. Although he approaches more than he preaches guys should, he says guys should be approaching about 50-60 a day 4-5 days per week.
He is robotic af when he talks to girls and it obviously works.
[–]electrisio 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A white guy in Japan is playing on easy mode, so you can be robotic and get numbers. This is not good advice for someone in the west. People don’t have the time or energy to do that many approaches, so it’s just not good advice. One way ticket to burnout/ lots of rejection, because in the west you can’t approach like a robot unless your a celebrity.
[–]Rich-Anteater-9468 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A white guy in Japan is playing on easy mode, so you can be robotic and get numbers.
His statistics prove this is false. He still gets rejected 99%+ of the time, yet he approaches anyway. He preaches rejection is a good thing, which most guys wouldn't understand.
Rejection is something most people in this sub think is a bad thing. The average man gives up when they don't get laid after hundreds of approaches. That's why they fall off the cold approach.
I'm in a WhatsApp group with Mike and he consistently talks about how he gets rejected all the time, and that you can't escape it no matter who you are or what you say. He would know better than just about anyone else.
The roughly 2000 body count I mentioned came from an estimated 50k-60k lifetime approaches he's done. He definitely doesn't have high percentages.
The entire reason I was able to hit a record approach sesh for myself last night is because I kept getting rejected. After a few of them, they don't hurt your ego anymore. 5 numbers for 16-17 approaches which is double my last record sesh of 8 approaches the previous weekend. I've only been starting to seriously approach 5 weeks ago, and only on weekends at that. I just hit 50 lifetime approaches in that time.
People don’t have the time or energy to do that many approaches, so it’s just not good advice.
Not if you live in the US. He preaches leaving the US because the approach and general lifestyle here sucks. If you move from the US to Japan like he did and live in the cheapest parts of Osaka, you can find rent for less than $4k USD annually. Yes, the area he is in is what most people would consider there sketchy or "the hood" but he enjoys it, and that's all that matters. You can go for years without working a job and spend most of your days approaching. I'm actually considering making the move myself.
One way ticket to burnout/ lots of rejection, because in the west you can’t approach like a robot unless your a celebrity.
If rejection burns you out, cold approach isn't for you anyway. Also, who says I have to be a celebrity to make X amount of approaches a day? Even just 20-30 a day. It's a lame excuse. I live in a city of 1M+. I have no excuses and neither do you. If you live in a low populated area, move to a booming city of 1M+ like I did.
[–]electrisio 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I can’t be bothered to respond to all of this, but you’re contradicting yourself saying he gets a number 1/4 (90 numbers out of 400 in that video or however many it was) and then saying he gets rejected 99% of the time. Which one is it? Is he lying about the video or is Japan easy mode?
[–]Rich-Anteater-9468 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro the numbers he has presented are just a standard. His standards are you will get 1 number for 5 approaches, 3 dates for every 20 numbers, 1 lay for every 3 dates. These are not absolute and and shift into high or low percentages at any given time. It really is about luck.
Nowhere you go in the world are you suddenly going to get rejected drastically less no matter who you are, no matter what you say. That's a fact.
[–]kiramdahanett 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
brother , stop trying to fight over stupid stuff . you're a beginner , own it . it's not "logistics" it's that if you do low volume , you become needy & you'll take rejections personally . if you do 100 a day , you get laid enough & pick enough numbers to realize how sexual game works.
again , i'm sure you've never done daygame , so leave reddit & try to face your AA in real life .
[–]electrisio 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I know how it works, I cold approach. Your setting unrealistic expectations for people. Approaching 100 people, 1 person every 5 minutes would take 8 hours 20 minutes. Stop spouting BS, nobody has the time or energy to do that.
Last year Mike Mehlman pulled off 81 contacts in 9 hours on his channel with proof. He approached intrastation in Osaka that day. Since his standard is 1 number per 5 approaches, he should have had around 400 approaches that day. He doesnt count, but that's an estimate. His approaches are no longer than 1 minute long and he can pinball off girls because of the pure volume of the city.
[–]electrisio 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
400 approaches in 9 hours is one every 1.35 minutes or 1 minute 20. Do you really believe that someone can approach a different girl basically every minute for 9 hours.
Regardless, even if someone pulled that off, recommending it as advice to people is just stupid because no one is going to be able to replicate that or that kind of volume without burning out. 30 a week is the standard suggest amount for results that people can balance into their lives.
I rewatched his video and he believes he did more like 320-350 in 9 hours. He posted the contacts he got from it. He has posted videos of himself approaching.
I've been consistently increasing my approach count almost every weekend for 5 weeks now. I've only been gaming for that amount of time. Last night, I did 16-17 approaches with 5 contact acquisitions in 3 hours. My best session yet. And that is double my 1 for 8 sesh the previous Friday. 30 a week would be a cakewalk for me at this point since I can hit over half that in 1 night.
30 a week is low for someone thats been into game for some time. 20-30 a day for 4-5 days a week is a good place for someone to be in a populated city in the West. We have to face the fact that game in other countries like Japan are superior due to sheer volume. That's the entire reason Mike moved there from new york. The only US city that may be truly worth serious approaching is NYC. Even then it's tough because you have to slave your life away just to survive in the West, so you would still not have much time.
[–]Lon4reddit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I would say that 5 a day is a pretty solid number. I have settled on just approaching people I see during my life, since i tend to go out once or twice a day (work + gym) is good enough, that way you also just enjoy it, not commit your resources to it. Approaches also feel way more natural for me when they're a side activity to my main, rather than just going to chat with girls, it kinda removes the need to deliver. You of course have to be committed to approach someone during your daily routine if you apply my mindset
[–]Lon4reddit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep yep, I mean, that's a realistic number for someone with a life. And you want to be someone with a life when you interact with people. Besides all the obvious benefits of living a life you enjoy you also will notice that you do not care that much about rejection, since your life is already good enough.
[–]kiramdahanett 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
U can never truly beat AA by 5 a day! that's why i'm sure if i hit 100 even one day before i turn 22 , life is gonna be heaven cause if someone make 100 sets in a row & without giving up , nothing will stop him anymore.
approaching 30-50 girls a day do you sit at the same location or do you walk around?
i walk but i don't change the area like a dumb fuck , most PUAs! hit some spot for 20 mins then drive for 2 hours to go somewhere else . i'll never ever make that much investment .
if the chosen spot/street is crowded enough , just walking a selected area for 2 hours is enough to hit 100 approaches.
so 2 hour walk = 100 girls . it's a good moderate cardio
assuming you have some standards & don't approach super low smv women
[–]Codi_Banks 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
120 minutes to approach 100 girls? Hmm im skeptical buddy. Are your approaches just 1 minute start-to-finish with 12 seconds in between each girl? Or are you counting girls that quickly reject you or ignore your opener?
[–]Chance_Base_854 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Y'all genuinely know how to make a woman's skin crawl. Thanks for the second hand scabies.
[–]CK3141592653 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes disturbing
[–]vinylsnrock -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Easy advice I should follow myself: If all women around you are ugly, move to a different city
Yeah that's so fucking easy
[–]Contango6969 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is no replacement for displacement
[–]-James-Bond-007- 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's my problem as well.. I rarely see girls I would truely consider as a 8+. Gets better in the evenings, but still quite rare..
[–]Keezymac34 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im not picky so that works for me . But i do it on college campuses
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