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[–]Calamity__Bane 66 points67 points68 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m not, but a personal trainer for sex (essentially what you’re doing here) doesn’t sound like the worst idea if you’re not in a position to snag a committed relationship or a fwb and don’t want to constantly go out.
[–]Mo3 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that’s my rationale as well, dont even want a relationship and no time to go looking for other fwbs all the time
[–]froze_gold 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The closest I got to a sex for cash situation was when a gay man offered me $60 for him to blow me.
[–]Calamity__Bane 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don’t get why they offer head. Do they think we’ll magically start reciprocating, or are they trying to convince us to fuck them in the ass?
Either way the answer is no, but I do wonder what the rationale is.
[–]clone0112 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe they just like to give head.
[–]Calamity__Bane 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmaooo this is funny. Gay men love giving head.
[–]Calamity__Bane 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I suppose if you’re going to be gay, you might as well be good at it
[–]Partyboi27 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
(26M) I'm in the same mentality, just got out of a three year relationship that ended terribly. Had a rebound who I was probably more into than my ex for about 6 months afterwards, this ended and now I'm kind of feeling that way towards relationships and rather just pay for sex and not worry of building unnecessary relationships I don't need, unless it's the right one.
It may be an unpopular opinion but I can understand your thought process and I think it's fine what you're doing.
[–]Lord_corgi 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m thinking about it, but I’m afraid i’ll fall in love with her and ruin my finances
[–][deleted] 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
No... But looking into it for the same reason. I don't know if I can get hard knowing I didn't seduce her into sex though...
[–]Mo3 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link
I promise you will lol. It's a woman like any other woman including the interpersonal aspects, emotions and sexual tension, you don't have to think about the reason she wants to sleep with you.. can't tell me you try to figure out why a woman wants to have sex with you every time it happens?
Its a beautiful woman, and as soon as your brain thinks its time for sex you won't give a damn any more anyway
[–]YetzirahToAhssiah 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I disagree. I've slept with sex workers before, and the complete apathy on her part is a turn off.
I like erotic massage, though.
[–]Mo3 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk man, I guess that was not a sex worker you want to hire
There are some that actually enjoy it (usually not in establishments)
[–]Calamity__Bane 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A whore who can’t fake interest in her customers won’t have many for long.
[–]YetzirahToAhssiah 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Disagree, all you need is to be beautiful
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, that's not what I was saying.
When I seduce a woman into bed, there's this rush of having succeeded into bringing a stranger into the sheets (from a nobody into her body lol). Don't know if knowing I paid to get her in bed would be as stimulating
[–]Mo3 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah bro I used to assume the same, I guess you’ll just have to try it out and see if it works out for you
For me it turned out that the rush/dopamine/sexual energy thing is not caused by achieving some mental goal but by just knowing you’re going to have sex. (And it’s still from nobody to into body)
Also if possible avoid going into an estabilishment and meet her in your own space
If you definitely need to have it, I understand, but then you have no other choice than to game I’m afraid
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't knock it till you try it, right?
[–]Snoo47851 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I used to think like that years ago, I have never paid money for sex, but if I see it from another angle I might be paying a higher price: I have to workout, eat healthy, work on my social skills, honestly is a lot if work. If your goal is to just have sex you pay a woman and you don’t have to deal with any of the relationship bullshit, no dramas, no jealousy, etc you gonna be missing the hunter Casanova excitement for sure but its an interesting approach if your working on yourself or developing a business. Yo hablo perfecto español. P.D: I got this idea from a homeless guy in Austin.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting annoyed with dating and my time is precious and can be put into endeavours that have a greater ROI. Most women have too high of expectations, bcs of social media and dating sites (4s want 9s lol) so their attitudes have become borderline unbearable.
I hear that This is the futur : pay for play. Knowing myself, I'd still want to seduce her and make her want to leave that lifestyle, heck just for the fun of it (would never enter into a relationship with them) 😉
[–]Tannerite2 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe for you. Not for everyone though
[–]Mo3 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Granted
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro at that rate that’s cheap as hell and she seems to be chill. Why not? It gives you some form of abundance and that’s key.
[–]glam_kat_0405 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am a 36F and I think what you’re doing is a kind mature thing, both for yourself and the world - much better than, say, meeting women and ghosting them. And, sounds like you’re improving your skillset in the process
[–]Czekraft 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
I don't. Some would consider that a priority when traveling. How much does she charge you?
[–]Mo3 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
100/hour
I call her maybe once or twice per month for an hour and make sure to make her feel appreciated outside of sex work context too
[–]rickmackdaddy 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I live in the US, work in the tech sector, and let me tell you that there is no way to take a girl out to dinner and a movie without spending well over $100.
[–]xonbuhg 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Doesn’t sound like it’s in the US haha. Way too cheap
[–]mysphit 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a scene in Blue, where she needs cash so she goes to wait in a bar. Good looking dude asks to buy her dinner, she says, $600. He gets defensive, and she basically says, "You just want to get me into bed. Skip the formalities and give me your room keys, and if you're lucky, there might be goosebumps."
🔥🥵🔥
Seduction is beautiful, but it goes both ways. 💜 Man doesn't have to seduce a woman to feel empowered.
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[–]rickmackdaddy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My man, they should pay you then!
[–]Mo3 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This is definitely not uneconomical if you consider how much a regular girlfriend or fwb will drain you, no
It's not the same either, but the profit/cost ratio is very acceptable in a "personal trainer for sex" perspective
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[–]Mo3 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes you are correct, but this is about when you do not have fwbs available or they are somewhere else and you have no interest in spending time acquiring new contacts
[–]Mo3 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk, I never have true sex-only fwbs then I guess. I always try to maintain some level of emotional connection and do stuff other than sex too
They say the difference with a prostitute is that the money is up front.
[–]johnnystrangeways 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100/hr is so cheap. In my city hour rates usually start at 240-300
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I do this women waste time. Straight to the chase this way. So I can stay on the path of being great
[–]TomUdo 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not occasionally.
[–]Amkg2020 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's bad for savings though isn't it I used do it quite alot pay for company and that jazz but yeah I don't think it's wrong to do but honestly it's definitely a red flag if you ever try to get in a relationship you gotta take it to your grave etc
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[–]Mo3 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro….
[–]Charge36 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Strain you and train you endurance? Most girls don't want you to last more than 10 to 15 mins on penetration and plenty want less than that
[–]Mo3 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
... ok? You need to find a better one then that actually enjoys what she's doing.. straining is not only penetration
[–]Charge36 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What are you talking about then?
[–]FlatDistance5 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Only a few times, honestly the last time was when I was daygaming 5-6years ago. I approached a young lady great body pretty face invited her over to split a bottle of wine that night.
She came by in a see-through shirt with no bra (which I though was kind of weird since it was our first date). I think for both of us it was a real date, wasn’t initially transactional. I asked her out and she found me attractive. Her Body was waaay better than I originally thought. Gigantic ass small waist c/d perky cups. She drank I kissed her played with her tits after awhile I could see she wasn’t that into me which to me was kind of weird since she came over. So I drove her to her home…..but turned out to be a party 😕.
Me thinking about her body decided I’m going to give it another shot, she’s hot I wanted to see her again. Tried to set up another date and she said are you trying to fuck me, me confused as to what was going on, I said yea, but I want to know who you first. And she said $100 I said I ain’t paying for sex, hoe. She said well get the fuck off my line then…… hung up on me…
Welp, 1 call back, brief negotiation, and a bareback blowjob later…. It was the best 75 I’ve spent in a long time. I mean 30 mins sucking. I came 3x first time didn’t tell her because she couldn’t tell and I didn’t think it was an issue, but she heard me moaning. 2nd time I warned her she acted mortified because she hates cum. 3rd time I warned her and she moved right in time. It sucked because she was insanely gorgeous and I knew that was a 1 time deal. Mainly because I personally can’t enjoy a blowjob fully if you move out of the way when I finish. And 2 I enjoyed her so much I knew I was going to fall in love. Had to leave it alone
I say if you can avoid doing it don’t. Just work on yourself and try to attract women naturally. Why because that shit can be addictive. Especially if the women are attractive. It gets expensive real fast. It hurt my soul after that night To get rid of her number. Still have flashbacks
[–]GhostNinja1373 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
See thats my only problem...that if i do start using escorts etc that i would look for one thats my type which is good and bad because if i end up liking it then i would try to set up another date with her....too many of those and i will for sure fall for her
[–]eddiebluudy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ive been thinking about it too. I have no wish for relationship, Or even FWV, I rather just release the sexual energy, and continue about my business, I agree w you OP
See this is my opinion as well...i get the urge but then when its gone im all about focusing on work again and some goals i have at the moment.
[–]cormacru999 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think you should be a bit more honest about why you're doing it, because you don't need to do it for stamina & masculinity & there is no such thing as blue balls in the context you're using. I stopped dating & stopped having sex a few years ago because I couldn't put in the time & energy to do it AND treat the other person with real respect. My masculinity hasn't vanished or wilted & my penis & balls aren't going to explode if I don't release the sperm. lol I don't masturbate either. I do think part of your post is more about making yourself feel good by presenting yourself as this super stallion that has to give special instructions to the sex worker, & I wonder how true that, or by virtue of that, how much any of this is true or embellished, but I am sure that you really believe the idea that blue balls is real & that it would somehow impact your manliness, but you can jerk off & that would still meet that fantasy or misunderstanding you have. If some of the interactions are true, I would caution you because it sounds like you're developing a relationship with her & since I don't know if she's a full time sex worker or just some woman you created this pay for sex thing is, you may find yourself in a situation you didn't plan for.
For the record, sex work has always existed & I think has a place in society, & although I don't use it, I don't have an issue with it as a concept. However, its not regulated much, meaning its quite dangerous for women & others, like gay men or trans sex workers especially, & I would feel better if I knew that most men would avoid taking advantage but the fact is, many of the women who go into sex work come from abuse, or are drug addicts or mentally ill & when men do pick up on that, they almost always choose to take advantage of the women instead of at least not accepting the service.
[+]Mo3 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
And I think you have blue balls syndrome
[–]Woujo -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
The purpose of seduction is to learn how to get laid so you don't need to buy a hooker. You can literally have the same relationship with lots of women without having to pay for it.
IF you are thinking about buying a hooker, go on sex worker twitter and just look at the terrible things SWs say about their clients. SWs generally HATE their clients; they look down on them.
[–]wooshoofoo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
This is so sad to hear. The primary point of seduction skills is to make you a more interesting and attractive PERSON to a subset of the people you will meet. (This subset happens to be people you find attractive.)
I know I’m maybe in the wrong crowd, but getting laid shouldn’t be your end goal. Your end goal should be to be such an interesting, sociable and fun-to-be-around person that the women you are attracted to will find you attractive.
To that end, sex workers are just like other workers that provide services in your life. They’re not “last options.” You don’t hire a chef because you can’t learn to cook for yourself; you hire a chef for their skills and what they can provide you as a culinary experience.
You can downvote me but it’s still true.
[–]Mo3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you understand the game better than most here
[–]Woujo -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Would you hire a chef that went on the internet and complained about how much of a gross loser you are?
[–]wooshoofoo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How does one person’s action reflect on an entire group of people? I’m sorry that it happened to you though.
[–]Woujo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ir didn't happen to me and I didnt say one person's actions reflect on an entire group..
All I said was that if you saw how many SWers hated their clients you might not want to pay for them.
[–]wooshoofoo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
That’s exactly what you’re saying. “Because I saw some workers talking shit about their customers, I wouldn’t engage ANY and ALL of them. (Because they’re ALL like that.) or even (Because most of them are like that.)”
You didn’t say “I wouldn’t hire any of those workers that posted those things.” You generalized it to ALL workers.
And the main point I was making is that seduction skills shouldn’t just be about “getting you laid.” That’s sad as hell.
[–]Woujo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your reading comprehension sucks. Im sorry I cant help you. Get a hooker, you will feel great afterwards.
[–]wooshoofoo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol “I lost so here’s an insult” good luck dude
[–]Spacemage 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
To be fair, a good number of the people who utilize the services of sex workers do so out of necessity, not convince. There's a reason for that... They're shitty, which is why they need to pay for sex. Non SW say the same shit about those same people, one group just makes money, and deals with more of them consistently.
[–]Woujo -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Most swers i know hate all their clients.
[–]Spacemage 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah because most of their clients can only geting intimacy from someone the pay, because they the social skills of a 60s pick up truck. Everyone hates those people, most just have to be nice to them, and even fewer of them get paid by those people.
You probably hate their clients too.
Moreover, they're not. Going to complain a out the people they don't hate, and they're not going to talk about them in public because A) it's not entertaining, 2) it's rude and D) any smart person trading that would go "oh I shouldn't act like that." Easier way than telling people what TO DO is to tell them what NOT to do.
[–]Woujo -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No you don't get it.
They hate ALL their clients. Their Twitter bios literally say "I hate all clients."
They are miserable people doing a miserable job, and they look down on ALL their clients. Im not saying every SWer is like this, but a lot of SW on Twitter are like this. Stop making excuses for people you dont even know.
Paying for hookers is weak sauce. Period.
[–]Snoo47851 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They all hate their husbands, they look deep in my eyes and they say: I hate my husband! Not one, or two: all of them, they are miserable people having a miserable relationship, lacking love, hoping for seduction, expecting love. I am not saying every one is like this, but most are, faking orgasms, pretending to like you and making excuses most of the time in their heads: its for the kids, etc. point your finger to yourself and ask: Are you happy? If you are, let it be!
[–]Spacemage 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same
Ok Casanova, I get your point, first of all I have never paid for sex, I am financially free, good looking, and great in bed, but sometimes I think about getting out and picking up women, they are abundant in my life, I can get basically a different one every night . I workout 5 times a week, I watch what I eat, I study seduction, I make an effort to improve myself and I consider I am above the average. If I pick up a woman, did I pay for her? Of course I did, and A lot! Maybe not money, but resources, time, gym time etc. everyone of us if paying for sex, being money or other resources,
[–]AerodynamicCow -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is sad
[+]UrFavPlayerIsBack -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
“Not out of pure blue ball desperation”
Must be chicks begging ma dude all the time to pull his pants down but he refuses and stays loyal to prostitues
Now thats another level of fidelity👆
Ps: yep, everyone does. When they have no other choice. Or those with fat gf..
[–]Mo3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
What a stupid logic to apply.. it’s not about not having options, it’s about filling time between options if there's no will to spend time to look for other options
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Cap
[–]RanaMahal 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
someone's got no mission in life outside pussy lmfao
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And a paid mission..
[–]TheRiverOfDyx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have no idea where to find one, I live in hick nowhere. So for me, going and finding a sex worker takes more effort than just talking to a girl
Logical conclusion indeed
[–]BobbyJoeMcgee 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh no
[–]missterrcammeraa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No
[–]diegggs94 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you pay for the South Park watch?
[–]sublimeonskunk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Prostitution is a victimless crime. So knock yourself out!
[–]WindJammer27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm gonna go this way eventually, and not out of lack of options. If you want a casual, stable relationship, this is probably the only way. Regular women, for a casual relationship, either they get bored of it and dump you, or develop feelings and expect you to do the same even if you swear you never will.
I at least have thought of it the laat few months but i go back and forth about it and the pros and cons.
I mainly havent done due to bills rent etc and the second reason cuz i live with family so cant exactly be bringing a girl over especially that type.
Over all i feel like it be nice to have a fwb and call a girl once a month or so but problem is making sure no feelings get involve and then theres the paying...dont need another bill on the list 🤐
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