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[–]TheSunshineMan 69 points70 points71 points 5 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Night game 101: Never kiss or makeout with a girl at the bar - only do that in private.
[–]PrettyLittlePenguin 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Can be an okay rule. But it also def can be broken. Plenty of girls want sex aswell and are cool with it, if you're cool with it and don't make a big deal out of it.
[–]TheSunshineMan 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I never said anything about girls not wanting sex - if you OP wants to improve their odds of nighttime - sex same night - that's what he needs to do.
[–]PrettyLittlePenguin 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah and I def disagree with that. It can sometimes be a way to go but it's def not "the way" if you pull it off proper you don't have to be afraid of her being unaware or unwanted of sex
[–]TheSunshineMan -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is "the way" if you want to improve the odds of her having sex with you.
[–]ReeZedd 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Why?
[–]TheSunshineMan 35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Because if she's already kissed you at the bar - and you talk about going back to yours or hers - she's knows it's about sex and can't make the excuse of "I didn't know we were going to have sex" "it just happened".
[–]wikuss475 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why would they make that excuse if they want sex or know sex is gonna happen that night?
[–]TheSunshineMan 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Search - Plausible deniability
[–]DragonDinner22 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s just how women are
[–]Popthecoin 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
My issue I always have the intention of kissing but I'm enjoying the date to much to remember to do that.
[–]jwilhelm0618 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That seems easy enough to remedy.
[–]Popthecoin 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well what's the remedy?
[–]jwilhelm0618 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Kiss them
[–]Popthecoin 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh look remedy from dr JW :p haha
[–]jwilhelm0618 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a PHD level life's work of learning my lessons the hard way
[–]cl1p5 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree most of the time I’ve made out with a girl at the bar it’s ended there (except when groups of friends are going out together).
Making out at the bar and getting her to the house is more like sexual pressure because sex is assumed.
Waiting to kiss is sexual tension it’s exciting.
I completely agree with the guy who said alone couch park etc…
[–]Papa_Musk 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Disagree 100%
[–]TheSunshineMan 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Because?
[–]Papa_Musk 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
personal experience that the opposite of this advice has gotten me and my friends laid numerous times
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[–]Papa_Musk 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
lol, making out with women is beta, fuck off, one person disagrees with you and you start calling them names go fuck yourself
[–]TheSunshineMan 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I never said it wouldn't work - I'm saying you're just making it harder on yourself and are sleeping with less woman than you should be.
I said beta behavior.
[–]fvckCrosshairs -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao what
[–]NiNj4_C0W5L4Pr 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Get better at push/pull with your kissing. You want your kisses to increase her temperature not dowse her with reality.
[–]321gumby 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is the answer you're looking for. Push-pull. If she is Initiating every kiss and your cutting them short, then she will want more.
[–]cl1p5 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is all around good advice the pull has be enticing though.
You might want a technique that takes less practice than being the worlds greatest kisser.
[–]spicy_simba 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My opinion is once you get to making out, first enjoy it, celebrate it, then remember that there are many factors out of your control that a person may or may not take it further.
There is a video game narrative that a secret combination will crack the code and get you to sex. This is only true in dating simulators.
This narrative is control oriented and narrow minded. Just like a video game.
In reality, If you are going to bed, you want the other person to be fully committed, and if they back down at any moment, they didn't feel like it.
If someone feels like doing it, they won't mind you going left or right and they will help you escalate, it will come naturally.
When you do make out, and you don't expect more then you are free and enjoy the moment.
[–]shaggy2gay 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lots of girls will make out with multiple guys in a venue as "part of the fun of the night." You are the human equivalent of a sparkler or novelty mustache wand to them. You probably were never going to fuck them.
The ones who are actually interested in you will become turned off if they sense you consider the kiss a victory of some kind. Or if you get too carried away with it. Use it as a spice. It's not the endgame. Nor is it an essential part of getting the lay. If it happens it happens.
[–]cl1p5 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lip sluts are out there and they are good for the ego.
[–]high-end-butt-hurt 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Try bouncing the same girl to two or three different bars, or to a bar the to a restaurant, there’s a rule to do with the time and building a certain level of comfort, that by jumping to different venues you essentially compress time from three dates to one interaction. Also it sounds like you have bad logistics, you need to have an excuse for why your going back to your place or theirs, so sex…just….happens.
For a long time I could get girls back to my place heaps of escalation the works until I went to close or move into the bedroom, then would fail flat. However on kitchen bench, couch, lounge room floor was fine, as it wasn’t an overtly sexual environment, where it just happened. And that way she can’t be thought of as a slut, it was just something that happened when we went to his place to check out his cool hat collection, then we ended up on the floor. Which is completely different from “let’s go to my place”, there’s no pressure or responsibility on her now.
[–]Papa_Musk 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
as someone who has picked up a lot of women at bars my advice is
[–]Anywhere-Solid 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No need to even read your comment, your name is legendary….
[–]NabbyNab14 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems like if your goal is to have sex, it becomes a game of numbers. Meet enough girls, eventually one of them will be up for doing something at yours or hers. That being said, I think some girls aren't into sex on the first date. It may not be an issue with you, it may just be the girls you're meeting aren't up for having sex at the time.
[–]RunsFastAfterCoffee 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Am a woman. Some of us just have a blanket rule that we don't have sex night one. And we know thats what you want at your place. So kisses are good but im not going home and there's really nothing you can say about it.
[–]PianoOwl 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Until the right guy comes along…
[–]RunsFastAfterCoffee -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The right guy isn't going to treat me that cheap.
[–]d3aDcritter -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well said.
[–]Agitated_Awakening 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually, some of us have standards that we won’t break. For anyone. They are OUR standards.
But if you’d rather take it as a blow to your ego, then by all means...go right ahead.
[–]TheSunshineMan 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So you've never slept with a guy the first day you met him?
Not even once in your life?
I am curious to.
[–]cl1p5 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But does making out with the guy that comes off as a lip slit turn you on or off?
[–]ReeZedd 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hmm what state you in?
[–]wolflion20 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just tell her that you’re going to fuck her deep into your mattress.
[–]herecomes_the_sun 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you ask them back to your place after or no?
[–]badboy236 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you trying to go back to their place to get them to go back to yours? Because there’s a difference. Lol. And if you’ve got them kissing you at the bar and you just met, I imagine you’re pretty forward. lol
[–]r_m_castro 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you ever asked them?
Like:
"Let's go somewhere else."
or
"Do you wanna go to my place?"
[–]LakersAreTerrible25 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't kiss the girl until you're doing shit sexually. I've done both ways and succeeded in both. But being masculine and allowing the vibe, instead of trying to kiss her or something is far superior. The average woman we as men date are not gunna have super high interest initially. So, trying to kiss or make a minor move like that is often not the way to go. Getting the woman's respect is everything or it'll be super boring, even if you do end of fucking. That's what I've observed over the years.
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