Field Report: Called out on game

kryptobs2000 · 2010-07-04T03:35:13+00:00

I don't see any reason to end the conversation when you did, even though it failed it gave you something easy to play off of, they didn't seem to be put off at all.

2010-07-04T00:52:35+00:00

I like what the girl recommended. It seems way more alpha to get right to the point and just say that you want an opinion. You're not asking for their opinion, you're telling them you want it and expect them to give it to you.

2010-07-04T02:53:16+00:00

And this is why I don't like canned openers... -_- more into observational.

"If you do anything with enough authority... you can get away with anything." Rick H.

2010-07-04T03:02:00+00:00

But what about the girls that noticed but didn't say anything?

AFCGirl · 2010-07-04T01:10:29+00:00

I think you handled getting called out as well as you could have, at least strategically (you may have continued to come across as nervous, which might have hurt). You established your rapport: it just happened to be on a different topic from the canned opener. You could have continued that conversation, asked her what she thought of The Game, etc. If you appear comfortable, you should definitely be able to talk about it in a way that makes you look good. You didn't "get caught," you just established that you and she had a common interest and you'd love to chat about it. Did you keep talking to her?

Ledatru · 2010-07-04T04:15:37+00:00

Why did you eject? I am curious as to how that girl knows about The Game

justthrowmeout · 2010-07-04T07:25:21+00:00

Canned game is soo fucking weak. Is it that hard to comment on something in the current environment? Show these women you are observant and have a functional brain. A parrot could spit canned game.

djadvance22 · 2010-07-04T15:09:13+00:00

Yeah not bad recovery, but maybe stop using opinion openers from The Game and make some of your own up. There are literally thousands of potentially great interesting relationship and girl/guy issues to ask about, nows as good a time as ever to transition to a more natural version of what you're doing and start talking about fun, relevant things that actually pique your interest.

blocky · 2010-07-06T16:15:51+00:00

Why didn't you say 'Okay thanks' and then come right back and try it again more naturally?

IANAPUA_Yet · 2010-07-04T01:43:42+00:00

"Cool people" are not obsessed with their grammar. - David DeAngelo

You'll definitely seem more at ease if you tone down the formality.

"Hi guys [pause]. I want a female opinion on something [go into is kissing cheating]"

Consider changing the greeting to "Hey guys", "What's up guys", "What up guys", "Sup guys", etc. Whatever informal greeting matches your personality best.

The second half could also be reworked a few ways: "[Give me/Gimme] the female [opinion/view/take] on this: " "Ladies, [give me/gimme] your [opinion/take/view] on this"

offshore_coppertop · 2010-07-04T05:40:48+00:00

Even though she knew it was game, you still opened the set.

Good for you -- I'd love the opportunity to open that sort of set. Don't sweat it, the first thousand don't count.

pooflinga · 2010-07-04T01:36:19+00:00

Honestly I'm excited for the day I get called out. I think you initially handled it well, but I would have stuck around instead of ejecting so quickly. You could have continued the conversation by talking about the game, and asking her where she heard about it, and what made her read it.

"Hi guys [pause]. I want a female opinion on something [go into is kissing cheating]"

As for your 'new' opener there is still one small thing I would change. Instead of saying 'I want a female opinion', simply say 'I need a female opinion'. Its more direct, and makes you sound more confident.

2010-07-06T19:00:56+00:00

(HB6 & HB5, it was a slow night...)

Meh.. I hear ya.

HB6: Can I just ask, is that a pickup line from the book the game?

Me: Yes! It is.

I've gotten this a few times, but only once (that I can recall) successfully disarmed it. There's a video of Mehow getting a shit test like this on youtube [Edit: added link.. shit test is at 1:50]. He IODs her by turning to her friend and basically saying (adjusted to this situation), "..pickup book..? Is she always like this?" and then engages her friend to complete the IOD.

I'm convinced the best course of action is IODing the shit tester (punish her for bad behavior), and acting like her question made no sense before anyone has a chance to validate it, and reward the first one to agree with you by turning toward them.

zbong420 · 2010-07-05T20:26:56+00:00

you thought reading the same book 150 million other guys have read was going to not get noticed? you think 50 other dudes haven't tried the same EXACT LINE on her before you?

moron

mynewname · 2010-07-04T05:23:25+00:00

It was fine. You came clean early and didn't get defensive. You played it off well so you didn't have to eject. In fact, now you have something actually interesting to talk about, so you don't have to bullshit about the rings on her fingers of whatever. "Hey, yeah, do you think that game stuff works? I've been getting some pretty good responses, but nothing huge."

As for the feedback, she's right, "excuse me, please" is soooo over-the-top eager politeness. Have you never been in a debate with a friend and needed just to pull someone into the conversation to settle it? You're not polite - you're impulsive:

You: You shouldn't pay for a girl on a date.

Friend: But she'll think you're cheap if you don't.

You: WHAT, OMG, no! Hey, you, settle something! Should a guy pay for the girl on a date?

If it's not coming off as spontaneous and debate-driven, you're doing it wrong. If you find it challenging to get into that frame, ACTUALLY start talking about it with your friend before opening the set. Or just talk with your friend about WHATEVER and make a spur-of-the-moment opener out of WHATEVER you're actually talking about. The spontaneity means you can get away with more. I basically hit a girl on the arm to her her attention tonight but it was ok because the next words out of my mouth were, "OMG, give us input on this!"

As for nervousness, get the opener down to something short and easy to ask. Practice it if you have to, but make it easy.

rmbarnes · 2010-07-04T09:45:44+00:00

Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to tweak my opener.

What I'd really like some ffeback on is this set: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/clrle/field_report_just_not_sure_if_ive_got_attraction/

but no ones responding :(

MisterVimes · 2010-07-04T18:47:28+00:00

Ha! You got off easy.

Once upon a time, I called out a woman for running "The Rules" on me in response to her challenge to me on why I was dumping her.

She was absolutely incredulous that I even knew about the rules, let alone had read it. What followed was a stream of epithets, threats, profanity that would make a priest puke, the FBI bust her and a sailor blush.

Something about a woman scorned.

yerajerk · 2010-07-05T09:10:01+00:00

Since it was made obvious that you were trying to pick them up, you should have disqualified them and said, "But you aren't my type so it was easy to come talk to you."

Title	Field Report: Called out on game
Author	rmbarnes
Upvotes	9
Comments	43
Date	July 4, 2010 12:47 AM UTC (16 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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