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[–]PEthrowaway956 193 points194 points195 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
wtf are some of these answers here? You can't allow yourself to become depressed based on something so external to you - you're surrendering your fucking value and creating a huge outcome dependency for your happiness levels.
It's a numbers game, screen for quality women and reflect the qualities you expect from someone else.
You attract what you are, not what you want.
Peace
[–]fall0ut 29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This guy hit the nail on the fucking head
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[–]Vandermeerr 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
damn dude thank you
[–]AshyBoneVR4 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Came here to leave a post, but this... This shit right here.... Seriously nothing else needs to be said. Good job.
[–]pandaholic23 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's crazy how easily we forget these values. Thanks for reminding us.
[–]Maldian 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that what i fkn call fkn opening-eyer.
[–][deleted] 46 points47 points48 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Where are you meeting girls?
If you want something that's not artificial you need to take care not to be artificial yourself.
[–]Lord_Augastus 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not being artificial means you must know what you want and chase after it. Not be needy tho. Fake interest can be seen. Plus she might have something else, if OP like like her, he can give her a chance or two, since this is now a commitment issue. The advice for moving on is the numbers game of pickup. To get a girl you want is dating advice and needs more forgiveness and more chances.
She may just be testing OP, after all so many guys make out dont go all the way, fake it to make it or are not confident, etc, its a minefield. Or she was confused why OP didnt fclose after hours of making out. So dating game is diff from pickup in that sense. If OP likes her he should state his intent, state he is after a girlfriend, not be afraid of telling that to a girl, most girls are into that , because thats the opposite of pickup....
[–]alchemi22 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I went all the way don’t worry. She snaps me nudes randomly but she didn’t reply to me about are plans that we made. Wasn’t needy at all just had normal convo with her
[–]electricspirit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's likely not on you - it could very well be on her. Maybe she isn't ready for a relationship, maybe she needs to work some things out wit her psyche. You can't worry about it.
[–]FleshyTaken -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
imo it's not where but how you meet these girls
just think about their real experiences until then in life, not what they say
what is their path, which are their inner beliefs, etc
when you really know her, you can choose the best for you
[–]HeyyZeus 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. Furthermore, there’s always exceptions, but if you’re searching for a life partner in a nightclub or bar, you’re looking in the wrong place.
Outcome expectation is different in those settings and your results will show it.
[–]tehgreatist 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you trying to say he shouldn’t be meeting girls on tinder? Because if so then I disagree. My advice is focus on yourself and casually browse in the meantime. Chances are if you’re having trouble meeting women then you need to do some sort of self improvement (gym, better career, personal care/style, upgrading your home/car). Everyone has something they can improve. Focus on making a better you and the rest will fall in to place.
[–]chronosthetitan 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The ability to get a girl for one night is not the same ability to keep a girl. To keep a girl requires value, that’s why your game has to be intrinsic with who you are. It comes down to frames if your gonna pick PUA theory to explain stuff, if you treat her like a girlfriend and she’s interested she will adopt the frame.
[–]judahman8 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Look at yourself bro. What is it about you that isn't attracting the right kind of girls? Are you a fun interesting person that is doing something with your life? Are you a good person with a good mental foundation? Or are you just another regular boring guy that does the same shit every weekend and really doesn't have anything going on. The fact that you don't seem happy without an awesome girl really says a lot about you. My guess is that even if you found the perfect girl you would fuck it up because you arnt a complete person in your own. Take some time to read and do some soul searching for a while. Forget about girls.
How do I do some soul searching tho
[–]judahman8 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read some books. Go travel, change up your regular day to day routine. Try some new things like meditation. Just sit silently and think and analyze your life. Self reflect on your life and whats important. We are so busy doing shot all day that we rarely take the time to step back and look at what we are doing in the big picture. Here's a few book suggestions.
The four agreements
The master key system
The mastery of love
Any books on Buddhism
The life you were born to live.
[–]wirelezz 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Time away from everything and women, by yourself or with friends. Take a moment to reflect on your life and what you want. Go away for a weekend somewhere quiet. No internet, no noise, no nothing. Your friends should want the same: time to reflect, not hang out or go for a walk/talk.
[–]Thedirtyjersey 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, seduction itself should apply to either context, it's just about the target audience.
If you're going out to clubs and bullshitting with one night stands always what do you expect...it's a one night stand.
Go on some dating apps, post good pictures, honest profile and have a conversation or two with appropriate amount of escalation.
If you are at all together and socially confident/comfortable with decent pictures showing you go out, have friends, are clean cut...then you will get dates and can progress from there quickly.
Oh and also, just don't try to fuck or do anything but maybe some minor kissing on the first date. If you escalate further you aren't getting anything but a one night stand at best from almost anyone, other than very desperate people whom will not be a good fit later on anyway.
[–]BeeLow0519 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meet someone through hobbies and/or friends
[–]DadOnDabs 20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You got overinvested too quickly
[–]PMmeyourselftopless 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Have things go to shit a few times and that will get fixed quickly. You’ll stop getting your hopes up. Then when you finally meet THE girl you’ll be asking yourself “what’s the catch?” for the first several months of dating.
Trust me. Life experience.
[–]le_GoogleFit 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, my life story right there!
[–]mththmhtm 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How do calm down and avoid putting them on a pedestal? Still a bit of a rookie myself and I probs get my hopes up too high too often
[–]DadOnDabs 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read the sidebar.
I still do it too sometimes but I just try to remind myself she hasn't earned my time and attention.
[–]Fun2badult 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If the girls knows everything about you and you haven’t even fucked her, then you’re just gonna get friendzoned or ghosted I think. You have to be a mystery for the girl to want to find out more, otherwise you’re just like any other guy waiting to pour out his heart and his story out
[–]e0nflux 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Develop qualities a worthwhile woman would want. Game is only a small part of it. Start hitting the gym and getting some muscle on you. Start volunteering. Start developing some altruistic qualities ( number one thing women say they want) Take some massage classes. Have interests other than playing video games, become more interesting as a person. Pray, meditate, workout. Like attracts like in the universe. The answer has always been within you.
[–]A_solo_tripper 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So you are having sex with them, but they are not coming back for more? Or what trend is happening with your hook-ups? Are you losing interest in them?
Sounds like you haven't fucked and catching feelings for her. Move on. Hit her up in a week or two. Continue to better yourself. Enjoy life.
[–]alchemi22 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I can hook up with them but most of them just want hook ups.
[–]A_solo_tripper 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So, you want to spend more time with them after the hook-up, right? Maybe build up something more than hooking up? Movies? Going out to eat? Correct?
[–]alchemi22 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I try but usually get ghosted.
[–]69_____2 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Where do you meet these girls
[–]sadmatt1997 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Move on. She’s a low quality girl if she’s going to be immature about it. Learn to screen women better and be more choosey instead of just looks like most guys do. If she is a player on instagram, ask yourself why? She loves attention, and she isn’t going to be getting that in a monogamous relationship. Invest in yourself, realize what you are and what you want in a relationship then play the game. Life is amazing and it is what it should be.
[–]razzlesama 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Change your focus my dude. I'm facing the same problem myself and this is what i think will eventually work for me. Like someone else said here, you attract what you are.
[–]DontYouTrustMe 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Join fun recreation leagues. Co ed softball, volleyball, soccer, etc...Try volunteering in a few different places like an animal shelter, or some non profit or something like that. It doesn’t have to be wiping old people asses. I volunteer as a ski patroller at my local ski hill and have met a lot of people.
If you don’t want a bar skank you’ll have to look elsewhere, and go out on a limb to meet some new people.
[–]bluedholia 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Go to a different country than the west
[–]techsin1010 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
True..... but you could also go for new immigrated people. First generation immigrants who grew <14 there, and rest here. But have parents who spent most of life there.
[–]yellowidiot314 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I know how you feel. Most women are actually cyborgs programmed by Apple to get you to buy their products.
[–]le_GoogleFit 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lmao what
[–]yellowidiot314 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hello Human! I am real. Please purchase the new apples music in the istore.
[–]le_GoogleFit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will fellow human. Thank you for the suggestion
[–]Dallas_Stars_Fan 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read models, it's a phenomenal book and it'll change the way you approach dating. I understand your frustration, but you can't put negative things like that out there or you won't get results. Demographics: where are you meeting women? This is huge in what type of women you are looking for. What do you love to do? Find something that you and women can have in common and go from there. Volunteer somewhere, I was shocked to find cute girls where I volunteered and they seemed like legitimately good people. Don't get too discouraged, your time will come
[–]Maggost 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know where to start
That statement is so vague, you already started having hookups with girls, some of us don't, so we have to start doing something about it. That being said, you already complete a good chunk of that road.
Now about the quality of girls is another thing, like other redditors said, maybe you're not looking for the right target though. That depends on which environment are you approaching those girls, correct me if i'm wrong, but if you're hooking up in a club, the quality of women who wants a serious relationship are low compared with approaching girls on the street going to work/a coffee shop/library/meetups and stuff like that.
[–]xen911 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Making out for hours is counterproductive. I've made this mistake numerous times. Escalate in steps forward and back all the way to sex or keep it very small and exit leaving her wanting more and not giving her something to think too much about after the fact and regret...or break these rules and get these or similar results.
Also, kill your expectation. Just because a girl feels something for you in this moment, doesn't mean she will a moment later. The upset you feel right now is the core of what is unattractive about you; lose it.
[–]alchemi22 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We did have sex
[–]FleshyTaken 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that girl may be someone who doesn't know being it feel what you want to make her feel like, learn to express it, and transmit that energy
[+]symptomunknown -17 points-16 points-15 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
In 2018 they dont exist. Every girl under 30 is brainwashed to idolize the hook up lifestyle and alcohol and drugs. They all listen to rap too so they have a degenerate mindset from the beginning. You learn pretty quickly from doing game that the silly idea of finding that one special girl to fall in love with is just a fun fantasy we all like to imagine but its just chasing a carrot on a stick. Girls these days have no respect for themselves and more importantly have no respect for men. So unless you have lots of money or are next level good looking most girls are going to act like pieces of shit. Id say if you want a change stop going to bars and try daygame. But keep in mind those same girls you are approaching dueing the day are going out at night getting drunk and hooking up with other guys cause its what they do if they are anything above average looking.
[–]nasty_nater 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Jesus christ there are way too many fucking generalizations here. "All women are this way" or "All girls just want to party and like men with money".
This type of advice is fucked up and stupid to see on a subreddit that should be about attracting women by improving yourself and communicating honestly.
This type of advice you're spouting sounds like the ramblings of someone that's been rejected so many times they simply have a terrible outlook on women and romance in general, and it's affected their opinions on seduction to such a toxic degree.
OP do yourself a favor and ignore this guy. He is talking from a place of hurt pride or jealousy or even worse; total disregard for women. Work on yourself, find hobbies and things you like to do, be open to communicating with attractive women and you'll find plenty of people you get along with and are attractive and fit the criteria of woman you are looking for.
[–]symptomunknown -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol anyone who does game on a massive scale knows what i said is true. Im not saying exceptions dont exist, im saying theres no point in putting much faith in finding an exception because they are exceptions for a reason - because they are very rare, so its unlikely youll encounter it. The reality is MOST girls under 30 are gonna act shitty but you may get to fuck a few here and there if you go out regularly which op is saying he is tired of. So yeah go do daygame and try to find that exception but i would game with heavy escalation and intent so you dont waste your time set the tone for sex immediately or else you could spend your day with a bitch whos wasting your time and nor gonna put out. Thats my advice.
[–]mistahARK 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You attract what you believe
[–]hurennn -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude most of the people on this subreddit don’t get laid on a regular basis, nor do they have any real idea what the fuck they’re doing.
Not trying to brag at all, just for context. I fucking kill it with women, it’s an absolute joke to me. And what you said is pretty accurate for the most part. There are diamonds in the rough, but not enough to where I’m expecting to find one if I go out.
[–]Dallas_Stars_Fan 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dude I listen to death metal and have tattoos but work with special needs kids at churches. You can't define someone with the music they listen to.. This is a very ignorant comment
[–]symptomunknown -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Death metal is fantasy metal when cannibal corpse sings about ripping fetuses out of wombs their listeners dont go and do it. but in rap when they say go be a slut for money or do drugs they actually do it. It's obvious thats the case
[–]Dallas_Stars_Fan 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol firstly, I hate cannibal corpse (other than their bassist who is great). I can't stand that band, but you realize there are tons of rappers who write about overcoming adversity and positive subjects too right? Stop going after ghetto girls lol I guess that's the only thing I can say
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, some of those girls you meet during the day do that at night. But why do you think it is so? Maybe it's because they are actually looking for a decent guy to be with, but are mostly running into these guys who are needy or just want to hook up (running game). So they decide to go with it because there is nothing better in sight.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So NOT true...EVERY girl under 30 is not like that. Wow.
[–]-Jim_Dandy- 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the perfect blend of /pol/ and /r9k/ holy shit.
[–]Idontlikekarmawhores -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are mostly rotten to the core in the west, thanks to how society treats them now a days. That doesnt mean there are NOT any good girls out there, you just need to keep looking, simple as that. If you want to make your life easier, i suggest you move or visit a place where a woman´s behaviour still have consequences ( like for example: if she abandon her husband her family will shame her, is she dresses like a slut she ll be called out a slut etc). In simple words go where there are still people with values and common sense.
[–]ejpusa -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kissing is a way DNA is sequenced to see if your off spring would have a good chance of survival.
She has babies, we don’t. Would not freak out about it. She probably has no control. The sequence match just would not work. Maybe she has friends?
In the end, it’s 4 nucleic acids that rule our lives. Just how it goes.
[–]recklessnsalty -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pm me dude
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