Luck

srwat · 2024-09-13T01:50:15+00:00

One way to look at it is essentially like a gamble, but the more things you have going for you, the higher % your potential success rate will be.

So yes, you want to maximize all categories that you have awareness of that matter: fitness, looks, banter, passions, kino, verbal game, ways to extend a conversation while keeping someone engaged with it. The more aspects you have decently well, the much easier everything goes.

norwegiandoggo · 2024-09-13T06:29:06+00:00

A very reductionist point of view. Whenever people say "only these 3 things or 5 things matter" etc. They're always wrong. We have tons of research showing that there are dozens or even hundreds or thousands of variables that influences partner choices and attraction. Yet here you are, claiming it's only 3 factors. It's not. All the research says you're wrong. Look around you in the real world. See all the total losers getting laid. People with no money. People with mental health issues. People that are unfit.

LucaCoco_ · 2024-09-13T03:32:29+00:00

What you mean that game is near impossible? Do you even know what game is?

NiceGuysDatingCoach · 2024-09-13T07:13:22+00:00

say the right things, at the right time

This is what most men suck at without even realising. I coached several people at text game and general conversation, and oyu wouldn't believe how badly they misinterpreted signalas and composed replies.

Luck is definitely involved, but there is a lot that can be learned.

Dandys3107 · 2024-09-13T08:38:59+00:00

There are multitude stories of guys that went from 0 interactions with women to regular dating life just by proper guidance and effort in improving their game. Women still very much act according to their genetical heritage, if you can understood it properly you can make a big difference just by simple words and simple actions. The issue is that most guys start from literal 0 in terms of mindset and proper skills and don't want to put too much effort in improvement, they just want to get done with their sexual needs and continue with "being yourself". But with dating success curve rises exponentially, if you start low you will get nothing for a long time, but once you reach certain level you will start getting opportunities and interest more and more easily. But getting congruent, immersed and competent takes time, it is certainly not something that we were taught by our mothers, female teachers and public discourse.

DaHouseSomalian · 2024-09-13T10:32:49+00:00

No, no, no. You still live in this world where the most important thing is to “get” the girl. Whatever it takes. Jump through hoops, kiss ass, do the right behaviors. That’s why you are struggling. Because your frame is “I have to prove that I am worthy of her”.

99% of men live in this world with you. You are all the same, competing over who has more money, more social status, etc. But for you woman=prize. You just have to figure out how to get her so it may as well be luck.

There is only one way to be successful on your terms, but you have to pay a price. And you may not be willing to pay that price. The price you need to pay is to focus on what you want and be brutally selective with women and discard the ones that are not what you want. It’s a price to pay, because your brain is telling you “noooooo, you need a pussy, you need it soooo badly, you have to to prove yourself to women to get it”.

If you have the balls to flip your thinking to “is she worthy of me and my time”, you will never think of this as luck.

Leewaak · 2024-09-13T13:49:24+00:00

First of all everything about your post is wrong, being financially stable, physically fit have nothing to do with getting girls those are self improvement advice not seduction advices, they wont help, at most they’ll be a little boost to your chances

Being mentally healthy is needed to navigate anything in life, but you dont need buddhist level of mental stability , just dont be overly mentally stressed and you’re ok, most people u see walking arent in the best mental state, but they still have a gf they still have a job and so on

Luck is only a variant in meeting women that are available to being approached at that time. As Seduction is not about turning uninterested women into interested women and getting them, seduction is about escalating with those that are interested

Thats why you’ll hear a lot about the Numbers game, its to get you to meet a woman that is in the mood to get to know someone, thats the luck part is to find a woman in the right mood to be approached. And you can combat it with the Numbers game

After that its having game, which is the ability to have interesting convos with the girl and escalate

That can be learned by 2 ways 1: pick one type of approach you feel comfortable with, look it up on the search bar in this sub, read everything about it, tips, people’s experiences and advice and Learn the theory thoroughly

2: go out there and PRACTICE, hit the numbers game and practice on any girl that is interested even if ur not in her, just use her to practice to get the hang of leading convos and keeping them interesting, and knowing when to throw flirtatious remarks and know how to escalate, this step is very important as you learn a whole lot from Trial and Error

Try to maximize your look based on what ur working with, and use your first few months and first few girls as a learn as u go, try to learn from every convo u have every interaction u have, and be aware of what u’ve done right or wrong and what worked and didnt

This is like 90% of what i did when i was a 17 year old who never had a girl, now a days i literally pick and choose who i want to date or not, from the successful ones of course not just any girl

Western-Month-3877 · 2024-09-13T08:00:10+00:00

If your game is “damn near impossible” then you’re doing it wrong.

atomant88 · 2024-09-13T18:23:37+00:00

If your plan depends on luck it's a bad plan

DaygameCode · 2024-09-13T21:37:43+00:00

You could just learn to talk to women and actually learn to understand them, but it’s much easier to be lazy, play the victim and blame your failures on everone but yourself. Saying that it’s just luck is just copium. Because when you say it’s luck, what you are saying is

I do everythign right and I know everything there is to know, so if I don’t get the results that I want despite knowing everything, then the fault must be something external, like “luck” or “looks”... or any other reason that shifts away responsbility from me. Because if i had the luck or looks and i did exactly the same thing i do now then i would get success.

This type of thought is complete bullshit, but it’s a nice story to solve that conflict you have to protect your fragile self-esteem.

The reality is you are responsible for the results that you get, and the first thing you need rather than downvoting me because you hate being told truth, is to be humble and learn from people that know more than you do.

Name_20 · 2024-09-14T06:51:28+00:00

Why does neerly everyone here talk about woman like they are a different, homogeneous species?

And also dont think of yourself as just one man of many. You are an individual person with specific individual interests.

If you are looking for your partner, its not about attracting any woman, its about attracting the right one.

Of course looks matter. So maybe find a sport that interests you. (Not just working out to look better. Of course, working out can be your sport of choice, but just doing it to look better and attract woman makes you someone without personality).

Also find your own stile. Have fun experimenting with diefferent clothes, accessories and hairstyles. I personally love when man wear earrings for example. But thats just my personal opinion, some woman don't like it. If you wear what you like and fits you (maybe listen to the reactions of other people), you are more likely to be attractive to the woman that fits you.

Try out new hobbies and see if you like them. You could also try out hobbies where there are usually a lot of women, like yoga or dancing. If you don't like it, you can quit anytime. But also dont shy away from trying new hobbies where there are mostly men. You don't want your whole life become the challenge to find a gf. I am saying this, because sometimes we turn out liking things we never expected to like. And having a few different hobbies makes you more individual and interesting to other people aswell.

You know what got me attracted to my bf? Our humor matched and we had a lot of things in common, so it felt a little bit like I knew him already. I also liked that he seemed interested in me personally and not just wanted to find a gf.

CrazyRepulsive8244 · 2024-09-13T05:33:41+00:00

I've had maybe 2 or 3 women enter my life due to luck. The majority of them were strangers that I seduced. Stop with the incel mindset, it's unattractive. Take accountability for your failure and improve.

Looking at it this way is just a self limiting excuse

Rare_Marzipan481 · 2024-09-13T02:05:00+00:00

You're absolutely right, all of the advice on this reddit is useless for men who are unattractive. There's no getting past that. It's essentially being born lucky, having the capacity to discipline yourself and being born with genetics that allow you to lose/gain weight.

Wing_Inevitable · 2024-09-13T07:03:16+00:00

Luck

Irrelevant.

If you leave it up to luck. You’d be fucked.

Is any dating advice outside of be financially stable, psychically fit, and mentally healthy useless.

No. Like 99% of advice is outside of those 3 frankly

The reason for thouse 3 things being such a smal part of it is they don’t really do shit.

financially stable

Poor people get laid.

https://youtu.be/bmav517MQJc?si=sGEcEhkUvN8WEfXj

psychically fit

Fat people get laid. Like wtf.

mentally healthy

I’m mentally ill. All “bad boys” are mentally ill.

Mental health is an irrelevant part of it all.

Outside of those it’s just luck.

The chances with those 3 (besides mental health cuz that lowers them) is 10%

So yes you would need luck if you rely on them.

This game is damn near impossible.

Disagree. It is extremely easy.

The reason you’d think that is that you are so far away from what is NORMAL that you think it is too much info.

Women seem to want the right man, to say the right things, at the right time.

No. They want a normal functioning (as in not weird) person. Who is fun and sexually stimulating and confident.

It ain’t that deep dude.

Only they don’t even know who the right man is, what the right things to say are, and when the right time is; until it potentially happens.

They do. They just can’t tell you because :

1 social competitiveness

2 You will misunderstand it.

So how are we supposed to anticipate something that’s unanticipateable if they don’t even know it.

Don’t be stupid ?

Like what do you want all the relevant info is out there. People have beaten this down so much an idiot could use it.

And yet this stupidity still happens.

TLDR: 1.) Be Lucky 2.) Don’t be unlucky 3.) Repeat

And that is why people think 10% is a huge %.

Maybe add 4) Pray to God. - You will have the same success rate if you remove everything else and just pray it happens today.

Title	Luck
Author	JasonWwolf
Upvotes	0
Comments	56
Date	September 13, 2024 1:39 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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