Jobless, isolated, fed misogynistic porn… where is the love for Britain’s lost boys? | Sonia Sodha

Far-Bee-4909 · 2025-03-09T10:08:02+00:00

I find this article hopeful and frustrating at the same. Hopeful because finally the left seems to be waking up to the problems of modern men. Frustrating? Well:

None of this is to deny the many inequalities faced by females in a patriarchal society. But neither should a focus on women’s equality crowd out discussion of the problems being experienced by a minority of boys; improving their lot would do a huge amount to make life better for both sexes.

The left is still in denial about the problem, still clinging to the myth of the patriarchy and women being disadvantage.

As for the rest of the article, it does talk about the problems but as usual it distorts them to a feminist agenda and wish list. The obsession with porn is a good example of this, with the feminist desire to censor. When there is zero evidence that pornography actually does any harm.

My biggest problem with the article is the fallacy that men exist in some kind of vacuum. That the behaviour of women has nothing to do with the crisis facing modern men.

Whereas in reality the pressures on men to be success objects, to meet unrealistic ideals when it comes to their bodies and their social isolation, are due to the unrealistic expectations women have when it comes to men.

HantuBuster · 2025-03-10T12:50:28+00:00

Lol saw this article was posted on menslib and the dudes there shat on it. Some even said 'Fuck Sonia Sodha'. I'm not joking lol

MedBayMan2 · 2025-03-10T22:47:52+00:00

“misogynistic porn”

If you only knew the kind of smut women read…

Peptocoptr · 2025-03-11T05:00:55+00:00

You really undermined how frustrating this article really is. The only "hopeful" thing about it is that they're finally acknowledging facts that are so irrefutable that not acknowledging them would hurt their credibillity. As far as I can tell, there's nothing altruistic about this. This is especially evident when you read the other articles linked within this article. People are starting to wake up from feminist propaganda so they're doing damage control out of self preservation. That's how I see it at least. You can say I'm just a cynic, but this article alone has given me plenty of reasons to justify said cynicism

AskingToFeminists · 2025-03-10T13:44:56+00:00

Fuck Richard Reeves and his "redshirting" stupid idea. And fuck Sonia Sodha for adhering to it.

Starting from there, I consider this article irredeemable.

TeaHaunting1593 · 2025-03-11T08:22:43+00:00

discussion of the problems being experienced by a minority of boys; improving their lot would do a huge amount to make life better for both sexes.

While I welcome any willingness to recognised mens issues it still frustrates me that these people are so unwilling to recognise that these problems come from biases affecting men in general (not a minority) and I hate that there is still this insistence on framing helping boys as a good thing because it will benefit women indirectly.

Revolutionary-Focus7 · 2025-03-11T18:23:20+00:00

I can agree with most of this, but the whole anti-porn moral panic drives me mad.

Like, porn is nothing new, teen sexual curiosity is nothing new, and it certainly isn't teaching boys to be misogynists. In fact, this article brings up plenty of other reasons why young men and boys are unhappy and resentful, all with much more substantial scientific backing. Not a single mainstream psychological organization on earth agrees with the notion that porn or masturbation is addictive and leads to bad behaviour, yet the belief that it is is as ubiquitous as ever thanks to resurgent capitalist conservativism married to radical feminism. I guess people who used to rail against rock music, recreational cannabis, TTRPGs and video games needed something new to latch onto, now that the former examples aren't considered taboo anymore.

Maybe this is just a Thing among WASP women, that they'll do anything in their power to get smut banned while giving a lacklustre effort towards improving mental health and education on sexuality and consent.

leroy2007 · 2025-03-11T17:45:50+00:00

I’m glad to see mens & boys issues get acknowledged. But the cynic in me knows that it isn’t because they care about us, rather that they care about the way men are voting.

Numerous_Solution756 · 2025-03-11T11:48:17+00:00

It's good that the left notices that boys and men are struggling, but I don't see how real change can happen inside the mainstream left-wing movement. After all, mainstream left-wing ideology says that men are oppressors, and women and people of color are victims. I don't see that changing in the near future, because some people benefitting from identity politics may not want to give up their victim status / their higher status in the left-wing hierarchy than white men. And those people who are strongly against identity politics are often already right-wing.

Now obviously left-wingers who aren't into identity politics exist, such as this community, but I think that's a small minority.

To truly address the problem of men struggling, the left would have to make a monumental shift towards true equalism and a focus on economic fairness for everyone. And that would be great, but I'm not holding my breath for that to happen in the near future.

BKEnjoyerV2 · 2025-03-11T12:51:05+00:00

It’s the same thing in America, and many of us (including myself) may seem okay on the surface but we’re not- that’s kind of how it’s been my whole life. Like yeah, I have a masters degree and initially attended an elite university before I transferred but my social challenges were never really recognized

Banake · 2025-03-15T20:52:51+00:00

Man, I wish that the worst problem that I had in life was that I was “fed misogynistic porn”.

Countless-Vinayak-04 · 2025-03-16T13:13:54+00:00

Article author's fake-neutral tone is the worst.

The author clearly has a tone that is anti-men and this heavily edited article has her suggesting one carrot. She definitely suggested more sticks, but they got edited out.

The linked article is a perfect sample to know why people prefer LLM written opinion articles over human these days.

Title	Jobless, isolated, fed misogynistic porn… where is the love for Britain’s lost boys? \| Sonia Sodha
Author	Far-Bee-4909
Upvotes	79
Comments	61
Date	March 9, 2025 10:01 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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