I can’t swallow the red pill

DatBoiETC · 2022-07-10T12:53:56+00:00

I feel this on a personal level. The older you get the more commitment you’ll most likely end up getting from women. What you have to realize is that the girls you are falling for are in their party years and they want to enjoy themselves and have fun, not build a meaningful relationship. Maybe try and build something meaningful outside of relationships w women. Try and build a better relationship w your best guy friend, or try to become the best in your area at whatever your hobbies are.

Either way you’re still young and have your best years ahead of you. Sounds like you have logic and a solid head on your shoulders. Keep your head up and nose to the grindstone man.

kez88 · 2022-07-10T13:03:24+00:00

Learning how to have relationships in a red-pilled world can be a difficult thing. The problem a lot of newer guys generally have is they think they have to act one way with girls they don't like and another way with girls they do, which is your current problem.

Nothing says you can't lead, ignore her responses, fuck other women, talk to her less etc etc and also like her and start to fall in love with her at the same time.

Red pill isn't about being single and fucking women forever, it's about learning how to be an unapologetic man who goes after what he wants, values his time, and follows his own path, whether someone wants to join him or not.
Be the prize, understand that just because you love a woman doesn't mean you have to make her your only priority and put her on a pedestal. Continue to live your best life, and they'll usually follow along with you and love you.

OA12T2 · 2022-07-10T12:56:44+00:00

Question: did you come from a mom and dad family or a single parent family? My suggestion to you is this: You’re 25, get out there and be with as many women as you can. Opening up is a bad idea at 25. The only thing you need to open up about (when in a relationship) are boundaries. That doesn’t mean don’t be fun, it means if you have a fucked up past, show insecurities, become vulnerable, women will see that, and pounce on it as soon as there is an opportunity (take it from someone whose learned the hard way). There is no such thing as a unicorn, no such thing as Disney love and no such thing as a perfect relationship. Once you’ve had a few ltr, you realize that most people are all the same. Most importantly don’t ever settle because you feel like you have to. Get out there - have as much fun as you can, lift lift lift, generate passive income and just enjoy life. Remember men age like wine and women like cheese.

BlowDryerrr · 2022-07-10T13:43:12+00:00

So you want Disney. You think you want Disney because it seems like the ideal, gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling, but where did that idea come from?

People get stuck on these idealized visions of what and how things should be because of media, culture, and upbringing. Fairy tales of happily ever after. Movies always having a happy ending. Songs about unwavering passion. That 60yr old couple your saw still holding hands when going out. People fantasize and assume their own desires without knowing what had influenced their fantasies.

Part of what redpill guys mean by unplugging from the matrix/work on yourself is exactly this. To be conscious of your memetic desires (read up on it) and have an original customized set of wants and goals for yourself.

It's not necessarily a bad thing to want what others want, but it's surface level to say I want love and I don't know why I want it so bad. You have to be fully aware of why you want such a thing. Only then can you truly determine if this thing that you want is beneficial for you at a deeper level.

Justinho69 · 2022-07-10T12:51:46+00:00

Yeah, it low key sucks but it is what it is, you just learn to make peace with that thought over time..

QPTFS · 2022-07-10T12:55:38+00:00

Does TRP say don’t marry or just be very careful when doing so? I think you’re doing fine, just be patient. If hooking up isn’t fulfilling anymore then adjust yourself accordingly.

RedertOfTheSeal · 2022-07-10T13:14:20+00:00

The red pill tells me this is bullshit.

The red pill doesn't mean a checklist of the lowest common denominator things agreed upon by guys in the plate spinning phase. It is simply the principle of being honest to yourself so you can achieve the correct outcomes. And in this context it would mean what is required of you to maintain a healthy relationship. It doesn't mean you want a relationship but some guy doesn't agree. It's about what you want. To me the idea of living according to someone else's paradigm is disgusting.

Puppy love is a problem because if you want a long term relationship it necessitates that the woman loves the man more than the opposite. The normal stepping stone is spinning plates so you can start to see that women aren't special so you can throttle down on immediately thinking you are in love and can actually rationally manage the relationship in your designated leader role. The next step would be your belief systems. Or maybe lack of in this case. Flip being instead of the irrational lust understanding how flawed these females are even if they make you very horny.

The skillset of creating and maintaining a relationship is in large part different from spinning plates. Meaning it's up to the man to be the head of the relationship otherwise there is no attraction. And understanding all the dynamics of such an endeavour will take time.

It's already difficult enough to find a feminine submissive attractive woman but then there's the question of can you handle a long term relationship. Once it's broken it's broken it's divorce time. So you really need to come in ready and maintain it for life.

Maybe at some point I will be “alpha” enough that women will love me despite being crazy in love with them?

No. You have a lot to learn relationship mechanics wise. Women find simping repulsive which this essentially is. Oh baby I'll do whatever you want. No. That is disgusting in a man.

It's up to the woman to chase a relationship not to the man. Ideally it's something she has to earn through her own devotion and effort.

Women need dread and in the long term relationship sense that is the dread of you leaving because her behaviour is unacceptable and then continuing to live a happy life without her. It all starts to connect why a woman can't be the center of your life. She can hop on the ride with you but she can't be your ride.

Most men want to have sex with other women while having a long term partner who only has sex with them. But it's a question of can you find a such a female and even then there's likely going to be a process of addressing feminist beliefs about equality between sexes. Or in any relationship situation. You don't find a ready women at best you can find one willing to be trained. It's calculation of what you want and if you can get it. Most opt into monogamy by accepting the trade off. Full poly relationship tend to be disasters, women who are promiscuous are broken. Then there's a traditional option of cheating on the low. Or you do threesomes together. What is it that you want? Is settling for less really what you should do in this life? Why? Choices born out of desperation don't lead to good endings.

But at 25 years old pretty normal so you are on track understanding the problem at this stage.

redhawkes · 2022-07-10T15:13:34+00:00

You've probably skimmed thru the sidebar, looking for shortcuts, hence missing the one of the most important posts. Oneitis is created in your head, and you're feeding it.

Also read this. Many guys fall into this trap, learn some tricks, get pussy and return to their disney world.

It takes time, it's not a sprint but a marathon. Other references about beating oneitis, read them all.

Beating Infatuation (the most common form of Oneitis)

Infatuation is not the only form of Oneitis

Nine Steps To Avoid Neediness and Oneitis

Neediness Management

sussykeke · 2022-07-10T12:53:23+00:00

This is an issue I sometimes see with guys who can naturally attract women. I had friends who would go home with a hot chick from the club or a bar every night and then they'd complain about how they can't find a girlfriend and that they don't have "love luck".

I don't think there's any universal advice to get rid of oneitis, I'd recommend reading No More Mr Nice Guy and realizing women are all the same

I_dontevenlift · 2022-07-10T13:19:51+00:00

I took the red pill then the black pill way back but at the end of the day, all this shit is luck. I married someone after 6 years of dating and now having a family, and I hope it lasts forever. If it doesn’t, oh well, if it does, nice! Hope you find peace one day

2022-07-10T13:33:04+00:00

It is out there bro. I feel as though I was in your shoes at one time...they are out there, but it is not perfect. I'm married to a wonderful woman and she loves me like no other...there still times where I get annoyed or frustrated with her and wonder why I broke my own vow to never get married...then there are times when I see exactly why I did and am grateful that I did.

Unfortunately, there is no simple happy ending...it is a roller coaster...love is a fire, you gotta keep it going or it will sputter out. The trick is, to find a woman that is worth kindling the fire for...they are few and far in between...but, they are there. Good luck and God bless.

edjohn88 · 2022-07-10T13:43:04+00:00

I’ve only been pilled 6-7 years IIRC but once you realize it’s an immutable aspect of life, you can gradually learn to allow yourself to love and enjoy being close to women… you just need to maintain that realization and mentality that it won’t be forever. Opened eyes can make it feel like a doom cloud sometimes and there is none of the pure bliss you felt when you were 13 and fantasized being with your crush forever.

Unfortunately I think being happy is not necessarily the main goal of life. It seems always to be a trade off between success and ignorance.

319Skew · 2022-07-10T15:05:38+00:00

So, here's the thing... I get you. Most of us get you.

We're raised to believe that out there, in a sea of sluts and idiots, there's a woman.

This woman has guarded her chastity and is looking for the right guy to give it to.

The guy, incidentally, happens to be you.

She doesn't know that yet. So, you'll have to be her guide and "win her love" through romance and persistence.

But once she's realized that... Oh, boy, she'll fall deeply into love with you and you guys will grow old together and have many grandchildren that you'll spoil.

See, that's what was peddled to us by media and society for a long time and it's a lie.

It's our lie.

Just like our children will be lied to that marriages are supposed to be temporary, you can change genders like a shirt, and your feelings are truly important to the world.

The reality is that girl I mentioned has been railed before by many guys you'd hate and she's done unspeakable things with them to make herself or them happy.

That unconditional love stems from your mom. It's in the past and relationships are very much conditional.

Oh and in order for a monogamous relationship to work out as sold, you'll have to overcome a society that empowers her to seek new dick and leave you, her own biological drive, and the nature that she's not static and will change.

The Disney princess has a past, a present and a future that doesn't involve you.

That's not to say you can't find a woman and indulge that fantasy. But it's still that. A fantasy.

So, skew... What do I do? How can I love the world for what it is instead of what I want it to be?

Simple. You embrace the reality. Bang women. Have a harem. Vet until you are happy with a LTR. Then move forward aware of hypergamy. Reflect on yourself. Discover what makes you think that way. Change and grow. Chase a dream worth attaining. Enjoy your journey and die with as few regrets as possible.

BeetleLord · 2022-07-10T15:39:31+00:00

It looks to me as if a man can either love or be loved.

Someday you will understand that the more you understand any particular woman, the less you will love her. You will be better and more virtuous than her in nearly every important aspect of life. She will be beneath you, and in many ways, worthy of slight contempt if measured directly against masculine standards of virtue. This is the best you can hope for.

Because if you found a woman who was genuinely worthy of your admiration other than for her womanly qualities (femininity, attractiveness, her attraction toward you, etc), then she'd be both A) a statistical anomaly, and B) not at all interested in you. Women only date UP-- which by definition means they are DOWN from your perspective, in any stable pairing.

Flat_Doughnut · 2022-07-10T14:07:56+00:00

It’s not really difficult at all, lemmy solve it for ya you have mommy issues of wanting to be loved, once you grow up and realize no one will ever love you, unless you do it to yourself first, and put that at the top of your hierarchy of values, so loving yourself first and foremost is key, and if you or said woman you want to fall in love with ever disrespect this hierarchy of love, where you love her as a consequence of loving yourself first, you’ll have to put her or yourself in check.

It’s like putting an oxygen mask during a plane crash, to save the other you have to save yourself first.

This stream of love comes from the stream of selflove first then overflows onto her by proxy. If this were to shut down, and you were to invert the situation making her the fountain that emits the essence of love; either by your stupidity or her shutting your fountain off, then your relationship will end.

So love the hell out of her, sure, but never forget yourself. What kind of love are you offering her anyways where you need to sacrifice yourself, and by doing that shut off the thing that she’s in love with and make yourself a bumbling buffoon.

This is how you mature as a man and This tells her you’re mature, and do not simply want to get drugged up on love, by letting go of everything, your self respect, dignity, self image, manliness etc…

Wanting to be sensitive with women will turn them off immediately, she’s not your mommy, you’re not her baby. Men who have this usually have a hole in them to be exploited, by young women who want “to change” the emotional wreck badboys.

Now If you want to be a man know that love, real love, is by proxy and loving yourself first, then you can provide love for others, even love the shit of her more so than you would if you were drugged up in an angelic oneitis fantasy, that even she knows is wrong. And you’re just getting high on your own supply. It tells her too, that you’re not silly to the extent of falling for the forged romanticism shittest, designed to make men subservient.

Anywho, hope that clears out somethings and makes the pill more swallable, as it’s your just viewing it with wrong lenses.

You have issues that need to be addressed, what you’re seeking is a fairy tail and that’s not real love that will endure. Your woman wants a rock, she’s already soft and emotional, be that rock or don’t go into a relationship unless you’re content being by yourself first. And not thirsty or in NEED of one

Funny_Wolverine_9 · 2022-07-10T14:40:30+00:00

Deep down, we all want love and that's good and healthy. It means you had a good childhood. However, I encourage you to go read through some of the divorce_men subreddits and see how 15-25 year marriages are ended because the wife decides to cheat.

I myself got cheated on my by ex-wife and then falsely accused of rape by her as a tactic on her part to win child custody. Marriage, but especially kids, in this day is a dangerous game for successful men.

BasilevsNihili · 2022-07-10T12:42:33+00:00

Marry, get cucked on, get divorced, lose half your shit, consider suiciding, that'll teach you. Or maybe you can just be wise enough to learn from watching others commiting mistakes.

Rjw12141214 · 2022-07-10T15:19:36+00:00

You have to understand women to not love in the same way we as men expect them to. You can express your love to them without driving them away. The problem arises when men confuse love in a relationship as meaning “I don’t have to play the game anymore. I can just be myself.” The simple fact is, you will have to game women as long as you live if you want one or more of them in your life. You need to game them, especially in long term relationships.

The harsh but truthful reality is women don’t want happiness. They want an escape from boredom. So you can give your woman a house, a car, beautiful kids, and be the perfect doting husband, but if you don’t game her she will get bored and leave.

Where most men fail is the opening up part. You can share your emotions with her to some degree, but be very careful about showing your weaknesses. Expressions of love are usually fine (don’t be a fucking sap) but expressions of weakness often turn off a woman.

You need to accept a woman will never love you in the way you love her. They simply are wired differently. If you can do that and get a grip of your emotions it will make it easier to keep your shit together and you will have healthy relationships.

Lastly, social media has fucked women up today. The constant on demand attention and dopamine response they get has absolutely destroyed their expectations for what genuine human interaction should be like. This phenomenon bleeds into relationships. Especially with the hot ones. I’m not mgtow but I have accepted it’s more likely that I will never marry and have kids than the reverse. And I’m not some incel either I get pussy regularly like you OP.

I know none of this advice is comforting but it’s a reality you have to accept to live a healthy life.

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TheGamersPad · 2022-07-10T13:39:31+00:00

Your not beta for wanting love or meaningful relationship, most people on the redpill here think wanting love is weaknesses and that's wrong. The problem with most people, is that most of us don't know how to have a meaningful relationship because it takes a lot emotional maturity to have one and sustain one. And most people aren't as emotional mature as they think. Because of the lack of emotional immaturity, most people run into problems and they don't see how they are causing problems and think they can get what they need else where. Or people lack the ability to set boundaries. Or people are to selfish and inconsiderate.

At 25 most people aren't mature enough for a meaningful relationship. Most girls at 25 are in their party years, their looking to hop on to the next thing that excites them, not necessarily someone to settle down with.

I think your main problem is the over-investment on your part. You can get girls you don't care about, but you don't seem to get girls that you do care about. Actual love, grows over time, in the beginning it is infatuation and lust. You maybe giving off neediness vibe to the ones you actually like. If you are extremely infatuated and lust for girl, as long you show it in a socially calibrated manner you should be fine. But if your being creepy and needy than your problem doesn't surprise me.

MattyAnon · 2022-07-10T18:11:05+00:00

but what I really want is love

You are fighting biology here. A man having emotional needs is unattractive and/or exploited by women.

This is an even weaker position than needing sex: she can simply switch off the emotional support and upset you. You never ever want to be in a weak position with a woman.

We all want to be loved. The sooner we give up on it actually happening the happier we are.

I don’t think I will ever stop looking for my what I want. Maybe at some point I will be “alpha” enough that women will love me despite being crazy in love with them? Or is this just a dream?

It's a delusion. Being attractive will make women want your sperm rather than your wallet, but it won't turn them into wanting to be your mother. Which sadly is what you crave.

It looks to me as if a man can either love or be loved.

Women do not love men in the way we wish to be loved. Read the sidebar.

As I said, I get plenty of women interested in me BECAUSE I don’t care about them. And once I start to care and develop feelings they leave.

They leave because you develop dependence and need. This makes you weak and unattractive. Be grateful they left rather than exploiting you.

But deep down I feel lonely.

That is because women will not fix your problems: only you can do that. Women are selfishly in it for themselves, they are not providers and they are not "givers". You can't trick your way around this.

and eventually some senior hot chick in her 30s will settle for me.

She still won't love you.

I feel like I figured out the rules of the game and realize I don’t like it. I’m genuinely concerned I will never be able to swallow the red pill completely. How did you guys manage to cope with this issue?

Reality sets in eventually, perhaps even with you.

TheeEmperor · 2022-07-10T18:19:21+00:00

First, stop being obsessed with your identity and its perceived proximity to blue pill. This shit is a process. Start by not qualifying yourself to anyone, just give us what we need to help you.

Just sounds like you need more time to unplug and thats fine. The anger phase isn't the same intensity for everyone. Study and lift consistently. You will find peace as long as you don't have zero days and you did something to improve your looks, money, or game.

You lack perspective. The 'hottest girls' to you are probably my 4 because I've seen it all in Austin and Miami. Life has so much more to offer than what you know.

However, there is truth that the red pill isn't for everyone. If your lovesick fantasies are stronger than your will to learn and apply, you will only get as far as the next oneitus. But like others have said, you are likely blowing this out of proportion.

Just remember that blind narcissism is always preferable to any perceived truthful nihilism. Once you have accepted MGTOW, you lose all avenues to a better life.

Reddit1984Censorship · 2022-07-10T12:46:13+00:00

Dude just keep getting laid trust me the only love that matters is the love you dont ''need''.

El0vution · 2022-07-10T13:17:37+00:00

You have no purpose. You’re making love from a woman your purpose. And this is the majority of your problem. Also, do you even lift?

whoopsdang · 2022-07-10T13:46:46+00:00

It takes courage to believe in reality. It's easy to become red-pilled and snap to a convenient, easy-to-understand extreme. Sounds like you have a spine.

garlicbutter4yu · 2022-07-10T14:26:33+00:00

I 100% identify with you my man. I’m in the same boat. Every day I try to progress tho. I wish you the best.

Spiritual_Age_4992 · 2022-07-10T17:54:59+00:00

I’m getting laid with the hottest chicks, which is nice, but what I really want is love. I’ve gotten to the point where my need for sex and validation is fulfilled. I can get laid whenever I want. My friends admire me and some are even jealous. The truth is I don’t care. I want to fall in love and be loved back. The red pill tells me this is bullshit. Okay, I believe it. Some of you will say I'm using the red pill to reach blue pill goals, which doesn't work. So how can I integrate it? How can I accept without becoming resentful?

You do not become resentful by understanding that even tho love doesn't exist, this is the next best thing that most men do not have.

... &... Get a dog & watch romcons I guess?

Enjoyitbeforeitsover · 2022-07-10T18:01:29+00:00

Love yourself at best. What you're looking for does exist but don't go looking for it

Caesar2022 · 2022-07-10T18:30:21+00:00

You can love women or understand them, but you can never do both.

Men love idealistically and women love opportunistically. Women are loved for what they are, but men must become. Become the best version of yourself and you will have women fawning over you, but they will never feel love for you the way that you will love them. It's all in the sidebar man.

real-boethius · 2022-07-10T23:27:29+00:00

I think you are taking a somewhat black and white view of things.

Women want the exciting unpredictable good looking even dangerous chads. But they also want some emotional closeness and love.

Your mission is to get the mix right. Look up "alpha beta mix". It can be done.

After being the hard man for a while women get tired and stressed - time for some closeness. After too much of that they lose respect and get bored. Time to switch back.

So you can have emotional closeness. This can build over time with the right woman. But you can never fundamentally relax - the shit tests never end.

It is a bit of a pipe dream to be loved for yourself. Women love you for how they make you feel. Sorry. Maybe if you were lucky your mother loved you unconditionally. But other women almost never do.

DickieDbFree · 2022-07-10T12:59:56+00:00

Stop being thirsty.

That's the problem. You're thirsty.

You gotta finish working on yourself to fix that issue.

Stop using social media. There is no excuse to expose yourself to the blue pill programming, NO EXCUSE.
Keep lifting and working out.
Get some hobbies outside of thinking you need a woman and masturbation (masturbation includes: social media use, watching TV, video games, watching porn, and anything else that isn't productive) and EXCEL at them.
Get a career.
Quit being a beta. If you've read the side bar, you should be able to recognize beta behavior. Recognize it, stop it, and move on.

You're still very blue pill as you're focusing on your feelings. Feelings are beta. Feelings don't help anything but get you used and abused financially.

Resent is part of waking up to the red pill. This is not the time to be pursuing women. Absolutely wrong time. Go monk mode and work on my steps above.

MGTOW_and_Bitcoin · 2022-07-10T13:37:43+00:00

You need the red pill to get to love....if you still think it is worth it. But no amount of red pills or blue pill ignorant will save you if you decide to have a child or get married.

Most MGTOW promote the idea of spinning plates, PUA crap... once you become fully red pill you may actually realize you would rather go monk mode.

But I'm like you, I still wanted to see if love is possible. But now I am very aware of the Red Pill Boundaries and more importantly I have a strong sense of what it means to be treated like a human being. In fact you could probably argue that being blue pill means you have no boundaries and you have no sense for your own Humanity.....( that's what I always argue)

Good luck gentlemen.

Yolobidroie · 2022-07-10T20:55:55+00:00

I guess it's seeing her as nothing special. I will auromatically be direct with her, playful, not afraid of losing her, put other stuff above her, not text her straight away, eye contact, ... and so on. I just do all this without thinking. When i realized it, i just had to start consciously doing the same with girls i really care about.

Yolobidroie · 2022-07-10T23:51:03+00:00

Yes I like you point of view. Kinda going back and forth until you get the sweet spot

FutureSelfDistorted · 2022-07-10T12:53:59+00:00

I'm a 6 foot Chad getting as much pussy as I want, but I'm feeling sad that women don't like it when I turn into a big girly-man.

tf outta here man. Feel like this is a troll.

packo33 · 2022-07-10T18:50:25+00:00

Red pill, blue, pink, black..... they are just concepts, simplifications.

Real life does not work well with simplifications. You can get what you say you want. For sure.

vplatt · 2022-07-10T19:22:43+00:00

OP - /u/Yolobidroie: Old fart here and I've been married just about 30 years. What you should understand about RP is that, while it's ALWAYS true, it's merely a baseline for sexual interaction between men and women. Sure, it colors every interaction, and you can and should explore the other RP subs for examples of how that can play out; in every way all the way from open relationships, to BDSM relationships, and even all the way to ultra religious unions.

That said, those relationships still have "true love" in them. But with RP learning, you now understand that those relationships are all actually conditional. No woman is going to stand for not having their needs met long term. They'll leave. They may even look to "trade up" if you were just an opportunity for them and not the real thing. That's just reality. RP teaches you to not let things get to that point and should also teach you to get into relationships for the right reason.

The RP forums are littered with bitter men who thought that because they were married to their true love, that they no longer had to work on themselves, their mission, or their relationships. They bought into the literal text of the Disney movies and their wedding vows. Just reject those messages, and keep being awesome and you'll be fine.

Now, your next job if you're seeking to settle down in life will be to find the right woman to do that with. You really have to pick a partner based on values if you're going to be successful at this. Don't pick based on looks or especially current sexual performance. But does she have relatively compatible notions with you on the subjects of personal finance, children, and religion? Does she accept your quirks and kinks? Can she get on board with your lifestyle goals? Etc.

In short, this isn't a sexy process. It's not a RP defined process. You can find the framework of this kind of process in standard pre-marriage counseling. At some point, PUA and one night stands will be an embarrassing memory; nothing more. If you continue to define your self-worth by how many chicks you can get to ride your dick when you're 50 years old, your life will be a sad echo of what it should be IMO.

Best of luck!

CSA57 · 2022-07-10T22:27:45+00:00

I really love my wife. As far as I can tell after Three decades of marriage, she really loves me back. Never had any evidence to the contrary on either front. I happen to be a pretty traditional guy. And she happens To be a pretty traditional girl. She's very happy with family, church, her garden, the house, etc. And I really work hard to provide. And we love each other. And by the way she's a very good looking woman and does everything possible to keep her appearance up--For me and for her.

That said, I work with a lot of younger guys...Yeah I think quite a lot of them are looking for what I have. But damn, I don't know if it's out there. It's certainly not among the girlfriends they tell me about.

applebrother · 2022-07-10T23:34:54+00:00

Not all women are the same, in the sense of just wanting to have fun, party. Screen those out depending on what you want. The women you attract are sometimes the women you want to attract, the vibes and aura that your mentality gives out. Some women were raised by both parents and are actually fairly healthy. Keep grinding kind. The right one will come along. If not, keep going. The fulfillment is in the journey, not the destination.

nicolasnemer · 2022-07-10T19:30:51+00:00

Only god can fulfill that part of your life. The red pill only works on a life without religion. Go read the bible. Gods words are the actually red pill.

curvedbymykind · 2022-07-10T15:52:44+00:00

I’m yunger than you but you’ll get there

vespersic · 2022-07-10T16:18:08+00:00

Women are the gatekeepers to sex. Men are the gatekeepers to relationships. There’s many levels to understand this. Push and pull never stops in relationships, it just gets more subtle as you and your mate learn each other. When you truly put yourself first because you understand that’s the only way to show up as your best self for others, much falls in to place.

Oneitis is the belief that have a one of a kind unicorn that’s the only one for you.

It’s also neurochemicals causing you to feel pleasure in her presence, and pain in her absence.

Feel the emotions and attachment. They’re natural and beautiful. Understand that it is part of what makes you human, but be smarter than the old attachment systems inside you that served to propagate the species.

Another helpful thing to think about is that the person you love inside your head is an idol. They’re not real. It’s illusion. Just like the ideal TRP you that gets you laid is an illusion to others.

videogames_ · 2022-07-10T17:46:51+00:00

I know naturals that didn’t have to learn red pill because they were so attractive (in the top 10%) that women would flock to them. Usually what happens is that one of these women that hookup with the natural want commitment because his value is just as high or higher in her eyes so then you can act more lovey dovey. You still need the red pill to call out any shitty behavior but if you are extremely good looking and have extremely high value I could see a woman sticking with a natural.

l8_apex · 2022-07-10T18:01:21+00:00

In addition to everyone's comments about adjusting your mindset, approach, and understanding, you should also think about moving to a country where the cards aren't stacked against you. That may seem daunting, but all that's really necessary is a remote-work job, taking to time to research locations, and making the jump.

There are places where government, the media, and your neighbors aren't all pushing for divorce rape and slutdom.

Mr-Shaki-Shaker · 2022-07-10T20:44:41+00:00

"I already knew game, on a subconscious level, and have used it all my life with women I wasn’t really attracted to. I am a natural, to some degree. I just didn’t realize that was the way to get them in the first place! So everything I had to do was to treat every girl like that. And it works like hell. But I hate it."

Can you develop more this paragraph please ?

bjbdbz2 · 2022-07-10T21:00:09+00:00

Two things: first, dont confuse being in love with being weak. You can have deep intimacy & even be vulnerable at times while maintaining frame & not being a wounded bird. Fine line at times, but makes more sense as you get older & gain more experience.

Second, take the cat analogy. Cats are cute, cats are nice to play with, cats are nice to snuggle with, but chances are that cat will fucking scratch the shit out of you from time to time. Some people choose not to play with cats because of this, but they lose out on all the joys of playing with a cat. While others just accept the fact that the cat is gonna scratch the shit out of them eventually and they play with the cat anyways.

ricky3558 · 2022-07-10T22:51:04+00:00

I thought the red pill was falling in love with Gary Keller at Keller Williams Realty. Been there and done that.

LotBuilder · 2022-07-10T23:14:01+00:00

You want unconditional love and validation… get a dog. Will never get it long term from a woman. It’s not your choice to swallow the red pill… some woman will do it to you. You will eventually feel enough pain to get there. It’s not in your hands.

B1gKumaDori · 2022-07-10T23:21:19+00:00

Maybe come at it from the "just dating" or "looking for a lover" angle rather than giving them a fake persona of who you are for sex and then offering the "real you" they didn't sign up for.

Be open.

Don't compromise you masculinity and what you desire but try to cooperate with your women on equal terms in the relationship.

Take the diet red pill.

The health side effects aren't worth the whole thing

Literally and figuratively it's unhealthy and apart of you is dying. Settling is still never an option in my opinion.

Take care.

EdocCA · 2022-07-11T00:03:29+00:00

You can fall in love just don’t be stupid about it.

The red pill at its core is about intersexual dynamics and you should love women for who they are, not for you want them to be.

Additional-Alfalfa18 · 2022-07-11T01:50:25+00:00

Why did they remove this post?

MrvDjd · 2022-07-11T09:29:34+00:00

Why was it removed? Shouldn't we all be open towards our brothers?

Title	I can’t swallow the red pill
Author	Yolobidroie
Upvotes	101
Comments	91
Date	July 10, 2022 12:38 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/vvqmpe/i_cant_swallow_the_red_pill/
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