How much does race matter

barlowaplesand · 2026-01-30T08:58:33+00:00

every girl has a 'type'. If you are not it, then you won't be able to get attraction from her. Most rejection is just the result of you not being her type and there's no attraction there, even if you use pushpull etc. It's a number game. Don't stress about her and move on to the next girl

lockandlood · 2026-01-30T10:38:35+00:00

In my experience about 1 or 2 in 10 will flat out reject you on race alone. As in they cant feel attraction towards someone due to there race. Also, anecdotally ive notice about 1 in 10 will feel more attraction towards you due to your race. Like a fetishization almost.

The middle 7 or 8 girls out of 10 will notice race, but they are willing to play the game if you can.

Freikorptrasher87 · 2026-01-31T00:34:02+00:00

Truth is it's either their own ethnicity or white guys. Unless the guy is rich or is above 8/10 in the looks department.

norwegiandoggo · 2026-01-30T15:32:22+00:00

Yes, it matters somewhat and how much it matters is largely down to the location. In some cultures, you might face a 50% penalty. In others, a 10% penalty, and in some cultural environments it will be benefit giving you a boost in attractiveness.

So it depends on where you are and how racist the dating preferences happen to be in that area.

I assume you already know the negative stereotypes women have about Indians, so do your best to counter those in your first impression. Mostly - women assume that Indian men are desperate, needy, and that they have a negative view of women. So show that you're non-needy, not desperate, and have a healthy respect for women.

stateoffutility · 2026-01-30T14:20:36+00:00

I mean you already know the answer yourself it does matter, especially in England. I’m white but an immigrant in the UK, now a British citizen, still have a “foreign” accent… when I open my mouth some girls make their mind up in a split second even though I’m a 6”2 tall white guy objectively good looking. I suppose the main thing to do is not care about it, yes it does affect you, yes a lot of parents will judge their kids for dating a non white person, or a white foreigner… its just life and anybody who tells you no it won’t matter doesn’t have real world experience.

Certain_Process_7657 · 2026-01-30T21:26:25+00:00

Harsh truth is that it matters tremendously, especially to women. Numerous studies have shown that women have a strong preference for their own phenotype (ethnicity) and if they're open to interracial dating, the vast majority of women would only consider white guys.

Most men are open to dating just about any kind of woman, but black women are generally the least desired by non-black men.

So if you're a non-white man on dating apps or working game in public, I'm guessing you're open to just about any race, which basically means white women since they are the majority in most western cities. In general, I don't recommend men of color to even bother with dating apps as there's just too many subconscious biases when swiping online.

The whole tall, dark, and handsome thing is really referring to dark hair/brunette white men. The "dark" part is almost never referring to actual dark skin. The ideal "type" for most women is an Italian looking guy. Think Luigi mangioni.

For context, I'm 33 yr old Indian guy raised and living in America. High double digit body count. Most have been white women in the 4-6 range. I'm avg height and I'd say about a 7 when I was at my physical peak and actively dating.

badabing654 · 2026-01-30T09:17:21+00:00

It matters a bit depending on what country you are in. If you look Indian you’re going to have a stigma against you before you open your mouth. But that can work in your favour as they have low expectations of you. It will most likely impact you most on dating apps especially if you have an ethnic sounding name, you can work around this by using a nickname or something like that

MeteoraRed · 2026-01-30T18:34:03+00:00

Same here 30M india in Bavaria (most conservative part of Germany) still mangaed to go on dates with natives and getting likes on Apps, so its not impossible,but definitely harder as women have their preferences and not everyone is comfortable dating other races

HandsomestNerd · 2026-01-30T21:02:05+00:00

Simple: How much does race matter to you? How much more or less does race matter to some of your male friends?

Longer answer: I heard from somewhere that in North America, 30% of white girls will only date white guys. 50% don't have strong preference, and 20% will prefer minority ethnic groups.

Anecdotally, one of the white girls I dated casually who was quite promiscuous (by her own admission) had only ever been with 1 white guy and everyone else was Asian or brown.

Jocelord_ · 2026-01-31T01:15:26+00:00

I'm Indian and Trini, I've had women of almost all races show interest in me on dating apps and irl, but some women definitely have their types and I've been outright rejected many times also (likely due to race). The reality is for some women your race matters a lot and for others not so much, but there's also some that have a particular affinity with a specific race. It's crazy because Asian women (of all the races of women) consistently have shown the least interest in me, and honestly Idrc for them either.

Dickasaurus_Rex_ · 2026-01-31T07:06:46+00:00

I’m Korean American and 28 so in my short life I went from my representation being Ken Jeong to Kpop stars and Korean actors so I think I can speak to this more than pretty much anyone. I think it really matters, especially for guys in the middle.

Before I expand though, I think regardless your race, if you look good and have charm you’ll bag attractive women of all races. Pre-2015 when Asian meant nerdy guy with small dick, I’d still get attention from girls of all races but only when I was “peaking”. I had a 6 pack, lots of friends, well regarded and I’d have hot Italian, Armenian, Asian, Latinas, Swedish girls actively pursuing me. So it’s never hopeless.

Now for the racial effect in the median.

I gained body weight and got into a mental slump after 2015 so I went from an 8-8.5 to around a 5-6.

In 2015-2020 when the Kpop/Kdrama wave was really starting, I’d get attention from pretty but nerdier Latinas, and all Asian girls but not much from white, black, or Arab girls.

2020-2022 it expanded to still pretty but nerdier white girls, pretty Slavic girls, and black girls.

Now that Kpop/Kdrama is massive, it’s pretty much everyone, even girls I would have never imagined. Dime piece country white girls will have pictures of Sunghoon from Enhyphen or Jungkook from BTS on their phone. A LOT of attention from all races when I’m locked in (low body fat).

Even my other Korean friends who I wouldn’t call super good looking or fit will start a Hinge and get a lot of attention.

I think the thing I noticed is that initial attraction is partly who you are and partly what you represent. So if your cultural archetype has no attractive model to it it’s more reliant on the individual. Whereas if you do have that it carries a lot of the weight for you.

Csoles520 · 2026-01-31T08:14:49+00:00

Only height and looks matter

FriendlyWrenChilling · 2026-01-31T11:14:28+00:00

Race is only relavant to how much discrimination someone has in their mind. If I have certain ideas about XYZ, then you shall be doomed eitherway. And the other way goes that if someone chooses to be with you on the basis of your skin type and race, haha. I dont know what kind of trouble you're asking for.

So is it relavant as a means of disqualification, yes very much so. But does it have relavance for you personally? No. Because you woudn't want to be with these women anyway, whether positive or negative.

schroedinger11 · 2026-01-30T09:09:29+00:00

What’s your accent like ? Is it Indian too ?

fuck_dating_reddi_t · 2026-01-30T09:32:11+00:00

You can't change anyone

lavenderthiefs · 2026-01-30T12:14:33+00:00

Cultural influences can affect attraction, but connection always wins.

jakeoptions · 2026-01-31T04:58:22+00:00

Fuck race. It’s a construct, an outdated illusion of caste. Ask yourself why the usa is so scared and the gov’t is doing all this fuckshit. Not saying it doesn’t matter, the more power you give it, though, the more you’ll be tricked into thinking you’re limited.

I don’t understand the obsession of people having a complex because they aren’t fair skinned.

Handle the basics and you’ll do fine.

Edit: I reread the comments here. Some of you guys are lacking both confidence and real sexual experience. I can tell by the shit you’re saying that sounds good, but isn’t actual reality. Do better, love yourself.

HotWheelsUpMyAss · 2026-01-31T05:38:01+00:00

Race doesn't exist and not everyone has the same taste. Do what you can with what you got.

GoldCoast92 · 2026-01-31T07:00:58+00:00

I used to think race was a disadvantage being a brown dude, but I was dating 5 white chicks at once at some point.

There will be girls that are unattractive that hate you & there will be stunners that are actually MORE attracted to you when you're a certain race.

Just take every opportunity you can because you literally just don't know until you ask.

thesocialmof · 2026-01-31T07:48:41+00:00

try negging. its a must for non-whites. For whites it's just cruelty - I don't endorse it.

Title	How much does race matter
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Date	January 30, 2026 8:50 AM UTC (5 months ago)
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