TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

UoAPUA Archive

View 1 posts and 554 comments by UoAPUA on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Upvotes Title Category Author Subreddit Date (UTC)
4

UoAPUA/r/seduction10/04/17 09:45 AM
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
1

Oh no I made a typo on my phone!!! Clearly I'm an idiot. nothing you said responds to anything I said. Sorry man, but you're talking to a wall you built yourself.
/r/seduction15/02/18 09:37 PM
1

I don't know who you're talking to but you're not resounding to anything I've said.
/r/seduction14/02/18 09:46 PM
2

Not everything's about you.
/r/seduction14/02/18 06:47 AM
0

Not in reality. Have you seen the posts here by newbies? I guarantee at least 50% of them will opt for calling the girl out instead of walking away.
/r/seduction14/02/18 06:45 AM
3

Because in reality any given girl is being approached by mostly AFC needy bois and they have and will get aggressive and follow them around trying to get the right answer. Hopefully people here know better, but I've seen enough posts by newbies who think "The Game" by Niel Strauss is a how to manual to know that they aren't going to just walk away.
/r/seduction14/02/18 06:41 AM
3

unless something blatantly obvious happens between her and one of her buddies, you keep cool. Even then it's none of his business. As of now he's had a one night stand. Until there's a conversation about exclusivity it's not up to him.
/r/seduction12/02/18 10:52 PM
15

Sleeping with your roommate was a terrible idea but it's done. Don't come between her and her friends. You're nobody as of now. It's not your place. If she wants to fuck someone else she can, and if she doesn't, it's her job to shut them down. Don't be needy.
/r/seduction12/02/18 07:27 PM
2

Unless you're a huge fuckin creep like 95% of AFCs trying to approach, and 50% of newbies here who thought "The Game" by Style was a how to manual.
/r/seduction11/02/18 09:11 PM
3

You don't have to practice pickup to get married and have kids. Think of 10 marries couples you know. Odds are 90% of them have never practiced pick up beyond searching Google for some first date tips or something. Odd are of your a normal average looking dude with a little confidence you stumble into someone who likes you. You'll settle, get married, be happy, and occasionally you be jealous of other dudes with smokin hot girlfriends. Seduction is about being more successful in dating so you ca…
/r/seduction11/02/18 12:18 AM
1

Women have a lot more freedom nowadays and aren't bound by the same old social constructs. It ised to be that if you liked a girl you hit her up everyday by literally going to see her and telling her she's gorgeous and you intend to mary her. When she graduated high school and her parents wanted her gone she's all yours. Over time societal beliefs and expectations have changed, and that's a good thing. The cost of living has also charges for the worse, making a college degree obsolete in terms o…
/r/seduction11/02/18 12:13 AM
3

Yes. I've always been a proponent of this. This is how you play social circle game and it's like playing on easy mode if you play your cards right.
/r/seduction23/01/18 02:03 AM
1

There's probably not.
/r/seduction23/01/18 01:52 AM
1

That's a pretty needy opener. It implies that you would jist next her and talk to another girl if she was taken. That may be true, but you're not going to get far if you're conveying that you're desperately trying to find a girl who might sleep with you. That's what they're hearing.
/r/seduction23/01/18 01:14 AM
1

She might think you're cute or she might not. It's simply a natural reaction to making eye contact. They're not going to stare at you forever afterall. I think a better indication of interest is eye contact with a smile. If you get that, and she's attractive, you might as well go say hi
/r/seduction23/01/18 01:11 AM
6

You're mistaking a friendly interaction between gym goers for flirting. She's engaged. Why would you waste your time pursuing her further?
/r/seduction21/01/18 11:40 PM
6

Anything beyond eye contact and smile is probably creepy. You flirt by approaching. Eye contact and a smile is a sign to go say hi to her after class. If you don't do that, nothing will happen.
/r/seduction21/01/18 11:38 PM
7

Some people don't want to be a plague on society. There's a big difference between some middle school bullying and being an ass through your adult life. Women aren't attracted to bullying, they're attracted to personality traits that are associated with people who were at the top of the school yard food chain. You can be express those qualities without actually being a jerk. If you're incapable of separating the two, it's to your own detriment.
/r/seduction21/01/18 10:03 PM
1

If you can't be assed, why do you think you're going to succeed? Women aren't walking around hoping some guy is going to walk up and say, "want sum fuk?" If that's ever been successful for you, it's the exception, not the rule. Cold approaching during the day on the street is a numbers game. That ending in a same day f close is like getting struck by lightening while being attacked by a bear. Women who are actually on the prowl for some good dick are going to places like clubs and bars or using …
/r/seduction21/01/18 09:26 PM
2

Excuse me, this might be a weird question but, ever had sex with a stranger? Do you like anal perhaps? Breh....
/r/seduction21/01/18 09:07 PM
1

Yeah I get what you're saying, but I'm here to tell you that women are not testing you. The idea of a shit test is an old PUA remnant based on over-analysis of social situations. That's not to say a shit test doesn't exist, but the true definition of a shit test is more like "a question, statement, or situation for which your response will be important to the future success of the relationship." It's not a product of the woman's will to trip you up or make you jump through hoops. It might be a p…
/r/seduction21/01/18 07:13 PM
0

Not everything a girl says is A shit test. If you have solid inner game there's really no reason a shit test like scenario should shake you up. Relax dude. Dont think so much. Have fun.
/r/seduction21/01/18 06:17 PM
3

Your prof does not exist outside of class. You can be friends and party with whoever you want in college. I promise nobody else is basing these decisions on what they're professor says. As long as you maintain your gears and make good academic decisions, you can be friends with whoever you please. Try making study groups next semester one new classes start to complete assignments and study for exams. That's a good way to consistantly hang out with people while getting good grades.
/r/seduction21/01/18 05:42 PM
2

I'll try talking to people I already know. You sound unwilling to step out of your comfort zone and meet new people. Nobody can help you with that attitude man. If your big comfy house makes you happy, then you wouldn't be on the Internet seeking advice. It's not all about a big comfy house. If the dorms turn you off, fine. Check Facebook or some student housing source to find some roommates outside the dorms. You're going to have to put yourself out there at some point. Sometimes you have to pu…
/r/seduction21/01/18 05:33 PM
2

All these actors you're making a film with aren't your friends? I bet they're having parties. Why don't you ask, "what're you guys up to this weekend?" You don't need to go to parties to make friends. You definitely need to expand your social circle. You should move into the dorms next semester. It's the best way for a young college student to meet people. You've really held yourself back this year by living at home.
/r/seduction21/01/18 05:24 PM
8

Stop hanging out in your dorm all day. Go hangout at a coffee shop between class and do your homework. When a cute girl walks by, talk to her. And you should be going to parties. Build a social circle. This is infinitely more important than who you see everyday. Move out of the dorms and get a house with some buddies. Now you can host you own parties. Also, on the first day of any semester, always sit next to the hottest girl in class.
/r/seduction21/01/18 06:02 AM
1

There's advanced necessary to be successful with women really. I think older PUA stuff failed to realize that. If what you mean is that there's a lack of outer game discussion here, then yeah I agree.
/r/seduction19/01/18 09:55 AM
2

That's true, and I'd argue those are the people who go to work in their 40s with a wrinkled shirt and whiskey breath, wondering when theyll get to see their kids again. That's hyperbole of course. But if you're neglecting true self development and not pursuing happiness from sources other than sex, I think you may find at some point that sex and girls won't make that empty feeling you feel sometimes go away.
/r/seduction17/01/18 05:23 PM
12

Teach her a convoluted "secret" handshake. It's fun, it's cute, it's a bonding experience, and most importantly; it'll take a few minutes to nail down so she'll get comfortable holding your hand. Use that to build up. If she's been receptive, you can grab her hand at will. Do so and compare hand sizes. Tease her about her little/small hands. Read her palms in a really jokey bullshit way. Now stop playing and just hold her hand in a more intimate way. Converse and build rapport while you hold and…
/r/seduction16/01/18 06:40 PM
3

This is r/seduction. Everyone here knows what basic PUA outer game is.
/r/seduction16/01/18 02:59 PM
1

That's perfectly acceptable too. It doesn't matter, it's just a baby step in the escalation ladder. You're just encouraging and normalizing physical contact between the two of you. You can just as easily say, "right on," and give a fist bump when she tells you a cool story as you can "accidentally" graze her hand while walking. Neither will kill your game, both take you one step up towards closing.
/r/seduction15/01/18 08:41 PM
2

Then she's not actually that into you man. You'd better back off before you catch a #metoo. Playing too many games can be a bad thing. Why don't you try asking her on a proper date and ingroduce some fun and romance into her life. Nothing says needy like trying to kiss her while sneaking away from the parents after a group activity.
/r/seduction15/01/18 08:34 PM
1

Lol whats the point of this post? Dont eyefuck your girlfriends sister. If you cant fight the urge then stop having a girlfriend.
/r/seduction14/01/18 07:28 PM
2

People shit on this stuff because it's 10x the effort that's actually needed to get laid. Not to mention it's more appealing to make yourself into a cool charming dude than a wannabe jedi weirdo.
/r/seduction14/01/18 07:16 PM
5

People here are actually using Snapchat and Insta as a part of their game? Lol why? I've never met a girl where a phone number wasnt enough to get things going.
/r/seduction14/01/18 07:12 PM
2

He posts the same thing every two weeks...
/r/seduction14/01/18 05:07 PM
1

Absolutely.
/r/seduction14/01/18 01:23 AM
4

Like I said, sometimes when it comes to pursuing your interests and taking care of numero uno, it's better to ask forgiveness than permission. Her: You hooked up with my friend?? You: Yeah, we kind of hit it off last time we hung out. I didn't think anything of it since we've ended things mutually and agreed to be friends. Does it bother you? She'll say yes or no, and then you go from there.
/r/seduction14/01/18 12:19 AM
1

College campus walking around, class, Barnes and Noble (bookstores), library, parties, grocery stores, recreational sports teams, local clubs or classes, Tinder, etc. The world is your oyster. It's usually an appropriate time to approach unless you're interrupting a relatively important task in her life (work, school, phone call, in depth conversation with girlfriend about how much her ex who just dumped her sucks, etc.) If she says "sorry no time to chat" or "not interested" then move on. If no…
/r/seduction14/01/18 12:16 AM
1

Do your kino escalation away from your home on a date. By the time you get to your house, it should be no secret that sex is about to happen. That means you should've been making out before it was decided you're going home together. She's not dumb, she knows how the game works a little bit. She's watched movies, seen TV, and probably dated before. She knows you want to have sex and she knows if she goes to your house more likely than not you're going to go for it. If she doesn't want too, she'll…
/r/seduction14/01/18 12:06 AM
5

He doesn't owe her anything, true. But life isn't about what you owe each other lol. If he wants a friend that's cool too. Even from a selfish perspective, there's benefits to having hot platonic friends. And who says she doesn't care about his feelings? She also doesn't owe him anything right? That includes a sexual relationship. She's offering friendship, and depending on what he wants he can choose to pursue that or not. See my response to OP for an explanation/cost-benefit analysis of what I…
/r/seduction13/01/18 11:45 PM
2

I say there's one best way to go about this. Do you intend on being just friends with you ex FWB now that she has ended it? Some people may say your friendzoned for that, but I have a different opinion of the friendzone. For me, the friendzone is the place where my hot platonic friend introduces me to her hot friends. It's an integral part to social circle game. Now that implies that it's okay to have sex with her friend, but with the sexual relationship between you two ending so recently, if yo…
/r/seduction13/01/18 11:37 PM
1

This guys coming off as a dick because he's insulting rather than criticizing constructively. So let me say it in the proper way for a helpful cimmunity. First off, awesome job. The hardest step for many guys is making a move, so congrats. Dont stop now. Now for future reference thats not a good opener. If you want to tell a girl shes cute, well, it can be done but its not good. If we think about the old school PUA idea of controlling value between partners in an interaction, telling a girl shes…
/r/seduction13/01/18 10:54 PM
2

A standard screening if you haven't noticed any symptoms should check for: HIV Syphilis Chlamydia Gonorrhea Trichimoniasis You can always call ahead to a primary care doctor or.walk in clinic to.ask if they offer.basic STI screening and to ask for a price estimate. If you've noticed weird symptoms, let them know and they'll screen for more stuff that could be the cause. And if you're under 26 and haven't had the hpv vaccine I think you can still get it.
/r/seduction13/01/18 04:26 PM
2

Reviving and old post to drop some knowledge on the community as an infectious disease healthcare researcher. In 2018 as a 18-30s year old sexually active man, it's basically 50/50 that you will contract and sti in your life. You usually can't see STIs. You usually don't know you have one. Get tested every year! Once a year is the recommendation. Personally, I recommend using a condom until both partners get tested. The good news is, the most common STIs are easily treatable with an inexpensive …
/r/seduction13/01/18 08:33 AM
1

Your pics are infinitely more important than your opener.
/r/seduction13/01/18 08:22 AM
5

Suuuper lame dude
/r/seduction13/01/18 08:21 AM
9

It's 2018. If you can't work a fistbump into your game then your game sucks lol. It's called eacalation, which means you have to start somewhere.
/r/seduction13/01/18 08:18 AM
1

Just because she's at your house doesnt mean you get to bypass all the steps. If she came over to meet up and go get dinner then go get dinner and escalate throughout the date.
/r/seduction13/01/18 08:16 AM
1

You're tripin dude. Half the shit ever written is made for a college aged man.
/r/seduction13/01/18 08:14 AM
6

It's you bro. Sorry
/r/seduction13/01/18 08:12 AM
1

Dude, the whole point of seduction is that you enable yourself to talk to girls and get laid. You don't need to conform to one type of girls interests to make that happen.
/r/seduction05/01/18 04:42 AM
1

Super creepy. The good news is there's thousands of girls just as good looking around you, all you have to do is go outside and practice your game.
/r/seduction05/01/18 04:39 AM
6

You're not welcome in this community and you'll never be good at game.
/r/seduction05/01/18 04:22 AM
2

Exactly why he's dating a foreign visitor leaving in July.
/r/seduction05/01/18 04:18 AM
2

I disagree. From OPs description of previous hangouts it seems he may have come across as a little judgmental considering they had conversations to convince him that Marie wasn't a slut. Plus it seems these girls are foreign and may express themselves differently due to cultural and language differences. I think OP is being at least a little out of touch. Lying isn't good obviously, and I'd put my foot down over it. But I think Amy's story is fair. He replied here that she didn't start crying un…
/r/seduction05/01/18 04:16 AM
2

Only if you're rich and white though.
/r/seduction05/01/18 04:07 AM
15

Wat...That's pretty cringey dude. Stop playing the instagram game and go outside. That's not a shit test, she rejects all guys who message her on Instagram That baby does not belong to some dude sending her DMs. It's not weird that she had sex after rejecting you. That just means she don't wanna fuck you.
/r/seduction05/01/18 04:04 AM
1

Cool little read. I think a key point to idea that you only mentioned a little is that if your authentic self isn't someone girls are going to have a positive time around, you must must must work on yourself. This doesn't work if you're creepy and needy. Also, this isn't really a seduction philosophy since it doesn't necessarily help an individual be good at interacting with women. Cocky and funny may work better for some people and be more conducive to their goals than being genuine or authenti…
/r/seduction02/01/18 05:34 AM
1

It's based in the reasonable notion that when girls are dating they aren't only looking for sex. You're assumption is very wrong, just had sex.
/r/seduction01/01/18 01:35 AM
1

Just invite her to do something fun. She'll either say yeah and you got a date or she won't respond/will make an excuse and you'll know it's time to next her for real.
/r/seduction31/12/17 09:50 AM
1

They probably just want to enjoy your company and internally say, "fine I guess I'll just do it," when they realize you're a horndog and hope you'll stick around after. Cmon man. We've all heard the old, "why do guys have sex and then never call back," line or, "all guys want is sex!" These are the kinds of interactions that lead to those perceptions. Sure, as a guy you'd probably just put your foot down and say, "I'm not fuckinng you tonight," or leave; but people express themselves differently…
/r/seduction31/12/17 05:56 AM
1

4 hours of LMR means she's not on the same page as you. You know women are people and sometimes they don't just wanna fuck you, right?
/r/seduction31/12/17 04:46 AM
9

I mean you're not wrong but, what do you have to lose by trying one more text? There's a fine line between putting yourself out there and being needy; I don't think one more text crosses that line. I think the general rule of thumb is to wait a week and then try again then next her. Obviously don't let this hold you back from talking to other girls.
/r/seduction31/12/17 04:44 AM
1

Well there's a few reasons: Strictly in terms of value, you're shifting the bars in a bad direction. In more modern words, you're being needy. Now she knows you want her. She knows you think she's special. And quite frankly you're aren't coming across as a stud yourself. The whole point of a conversation is to get to know someone. There's supposed to be at least an illusion that you need to determine whether someone is right for you. If you're walking up already having determined that this girl …
/r/seduction20/12/17 06:48 PM
1

Mystery Method is for guys in fuzzy hats who end up sad and alone. Do you know where Mystery is at now? Last I heard he was crying on social media about not being allowed to see his kids. That old school PUA crap was certainly on to something, but at the end of the day it's called performing. It may very well work but there's two issues: You're severely filtering the girls you'll see success with. Believe it or not girls are people. Some of them are intelligent. And many of them see through your…
/r/seduction20/12/17 06:33 PM
2

This is the shit that kills our image.
/r/seduction20/12/17 06:19 PM
4

Alright but this is a sub for advice. You're being weird That's a hard thing to correct if you haven't noticed it already. More specific insight could be helpful.
/r/seduction20/12/17 06:13 PM
2

Why don't you post an example script for us so we can decide if you're acting weird or not?
/r/seduction20/12/17 05:45 PM
1

"Hey I'm Sechecopar, are y'll friends with so and so?" Don't just talk to girls, talk to everyone. It's a party. After an hour you should be friends with everyone and now you're not cold approaching, you're warm approaching.
/r/seduction14/12/17 03:25 AM
1

I for one think Mark Manson does an excellent job narrating "Models." Audible does one free audiobook for signing up and you can cancel anytime. Also, "Book of Pook" is on YouTube.
/r/seduction14/12/17 03:16 AM
1

You're confused dude.
/r/seduction13/12/17 10:44 PM
2

The only time this is relevant if that is your goal, if you meet the one, and the one is describe as someone you click with, a lot of women aren't looking for relationships , they are looking for dick, this isn't a bad or good thing. Obviously, I haven't implied anything different. This is a shaming tactic , PUA makes you sexually attractive, a prospect relationship , when I met my wife I didn't need to do anything other than be myself and yes I still have all the same "flaws" You literally just…
/r/seduction13/12/17 08:50 PM
0

Fuck you!
/r/seduction13/12/17 05:48 PM
0

Bad bot. "Could care less" is an idiom.
/r/seduction13/12/17 05:48 PM
3

I'm not referring to promiscuity though. I could care less about that lol. I guess by quality I mean "relationship material." If you go in hardcore old school PUA style to pick up girls at a club and then try to maintain that relationship long term, I believe you will face challenges even beyond maintaining your performance. I believe the girls who respond well to that may not be in the right place in life, in the right mindset, or have the typical desires at that moment to maintain a steady mat…
/r/seduction13/12/17 05:34 PM
2

Yep I disagree with fake it till you make it. That's old school PUA and in reality you fake it until she finds out you're not genuine and you end up sad and alone. New school PUA says solidify your inner game and you don't have to fake anything.
/r/seduction13/12/17 05:26 AM
3

And because you lack morals.
/r/seduction12/12/17 10:05 PM
1

I think you should take your opinion elsewhere and leave the advice to people who know what they're talking about.
/r/seduction12/12/17 10:04 PM
2

Just because you don't get laid doesn't mean other people don't lol
/r/seduction12/12/17 09:33 PM
8

Yeah I see what you're saying. I guess what I'm getting at is that the changes you try to make cant be in conflict with the person you want to be. So I think I'm more against performing. If you want to be a teacher who hikes on weekend and likes to cook, don't take a girl on a date to a fancy restaurant and talk about the crazy parties you go to to try an impress her or because you think that's what attractive people do. Be you. But don't be the you that hasn't gotten a raise in 10 years and onl…
/r/seduction12/12/17 09:28 PM
1

You're supposed to be the best version of you.
/r/seduction12/12/17 06:55 PM
21

Yeah dude. Congrats you just realized lesson number one for inner game. The goal of developing solid inner game is to be the best you that you can be. The goal is not to fake it or be something you're not. So be you. The best version of you.
/r/seduction12/12/17 04:05 PM
4

The truth.
/r/seduction12/12/17 07:53 AM
6

Even if that were true, her husband's probably a better all around person than you so it would be a loss in her part really. Hey newbies out there, don't be like this guy. He fucks what he can without filter because he's really desperate inside.
/r/seduction12/12/17 03:14 AM
30

And he got away with a hug so suck a dick mayne
/r/seduction12/12/17 03:12 AM
2

Like most things in life, you get away with more if you come off as attractive. The super like feature basically gurantees they will see your profile and make a concious decision. If you've nailed the pictures and profile, have a and few mutual fiends and mutual interests, then you'll likely get a match. That's why you should be scrutinizing when using your super like. Don't just super like the hottest girl. Super like the attractive girls who are most likely to match with you if your profile we…
/r/seduction26/11/17 05:50 PM
2

UoAPUA's Brief Tinder Guide Pictures: Have at least 4 pictures. Your first picture should either be just you straight up or you and a dog. Make sure it represents well what you look like. The next picture should either be you and some buddies having a good time or you doing something adventurous. For the third, it'd be good to have a picture of you and some pretty girlfriends for that preselection boost. Next one can be any of the above. The more the better. Bio: Keep this short and sweet. If yo…
/r/seduction25/11/17 07:34 PM
5

That's a cringey profile. Should be less than 20 words. PhD student, yoga, music. Ask me about my parakeet. Act like a man and act like there's some mystery to you. Don't try so hard to sell yourself. A Don Juan isn't selling, he's shopping.
/r/seduction25/11/17 07:28 PM
3

Idk if it's been mentioned yet, but I think it is worth mentioning. You say: I'm not THAT ugly or very overweight The very first thing we tell guys here is that if they aren't doing everything within their power to make themselves the best version of themselves that they can be, they're holding themselves back. So the same goes for women. Looks are important, and some of that is within your control. Also, everyone can benefit from honestly evaluating their life and taking steps to live a more ac…
/r/seduction22/11/17 05:24 AM
1

Ah, well then good luck man! We're all counting on you!
/r/seduction22/11/17 04:58 AM
1

That's called being an AFC
/r/seduction22/11/17 03:57 AM
1

Leave the canned stuff in 2005 where it belongs along with magic tricks, negs, fuzzy hats, gator skin suits.
/r/seduction22/11/17 12:49 AM
1

Don't. Get big and pursue your goal body instead. You'll get laid a lot more in the long run this way.
/r/seduction22/11/17 12:47 AM
1

"Yeah I've been growing this bad boy for a couple of months now. Eventually I'm goi for handlebars."
/r/seduction22/11/17 12:45 AM
3

24 is young dude. You could be ballin in 6 months if you play your cards right.
/r/seduction22/11/17 12:44 AM
7

Bad idea. But the best way is honesty. Just straight up ask her on a a date. If she asks, "you mean like a date?" You say yes. Be prepared to be turned down. Alternatively, you can go no contact for a while and make some major improvements and changes in your life and then come back for a new first impression. In my opinion, you can't just physically escalate or start acting like a player around someone who already has an idea of who you are. They already have a framework in their head for your …
/r/seduction22/11/17 12:42 AM
1

The best girl-friends IMO are the ones who introduce you to more hot girls. If you're approaching a girl, I assume you think she's attractive. If she's not having it, has a boyfriend, my looking, whatever; she's a potential opportunity to expand your social circle and meet new people. Cold approaching with the same group of people every weekend is cool. Having a hot girl introduce you to her hot single friends is cool too. If you're just cold shouldering every girl who might possibly be interest…
/r/seduction21/11/17 10:13 PM
4

Well, lucky for you, you don't really need to be smart to be successful in the game lol
/r/seduction21/11/17 05:45 PM
1

Breh, nothing makes you more attractive than walking into the club with 4-5 girls surrounding you and telling everyone you talk to, "he's such a great guy!" Maintain your friendships with girls. You chill with your guy friends right? Talk about shit and do fun stuff. Do that with girls too.
/r/seduction21/11/17 05:43 PM
1

Slowly and gradually get more and more physical. Hug her to greet her. Touch her arm when she says something funny or surprising. Give her a high five when she talks about an accomplishment or something cool/impressive she did. Teach her a secret handshake. Play a game like a thumb war. Keep hold of her hand and just hold it. If she lets you hold her hand then she's probably ready for a kiss. If she pulls back or shows discomfort during any of this, take 2 steps back.
/r/seduction21/11/17 05:04 AM
3

Step 1: No Contact None Step 2: Become a Better You More muscle, less fat, better grades, more money, more friends, better haircut, better clothes, more hobbies, more happiness, etc. Step 3: Date Other Girls Date at least 5 other girls. Have sex with at least 3. Do you still think about your ex? Proceed to step 4. Step 4: Make Sure You're Not Being a Fuck Boi Are you really a better you? Did you really explore other options? Did you give it enough time? At least 3 months? Does she have a boyfrie…
/r/seduction21/11/17 04:03 AM
1

I've never been one to let stuff like that influence my decisions. Idk how important this is to you or her. Maybe someone else can provide some insight. It seems insignificant to me. That snapchat streak probably isn't going to be a factor in whether or not you get laid.
/r/seduction21/11/17 03:50 AM
2

Probably 90% of people here don't do phone calls bro. Just text her and ask for a date. Better yet, get the date straight from the dating app. Don't try to have a conversation via text. You can pretty much only fuck it up in the beginning stages.
/r/seduction21/11/17 03:22 AM
1

Lol what is this talking and hugging shit? Sounds like something a friend does. Converse with a girl, if there's a connection you get her number. Ask her on a date. Converse, escalate physically, and go on anther date. Escalate more, until sex or she turns you down. You can talk and hug all you want after you've kissed the girl on a date. Don't confuse friendship for interest. If you're not making moves then you're settling for the role of friend. Make moves, she'll let you know if she's not abo…
/r/seduction21/11/17 03:21 AM
3

Don't talk to her for a week. Ask her again for a date at the end of that week. Reach out the her, make some small talk, then ask. If she initiates contact before the end of the week, then talk to her. Ask her in that date. Ask with a specific time, date, and activity. If she says no and doesn't offer an alternative date/time, next her.
/r/seduction21/11/17 03:17 AM
5

Alright if I were starting from scratch with a year to dedicate to reading and taking action i'd do this. Reading List The Game by Neil Strauss - This is NOT a how to. don't use it as one. It's an introduction to what Seduction used to be, and why the current Seduction community is better. It's a lesson that you need to learn before starting. Models by Mark Manson - A guide to how Seduction works conceptually. MUST READ Book of Pook - A guide for how to think/develop inner game. A little sexist,…
/r/seduction21/11/17 03:06 AM
1

It means you should have asked her out a long time ago. 95% of seduction happens in person not over text and Facebook. Next time she texts you first and give you signs, tell her you have something fun planned for the weekend and invite her out.
/r/seduction09/11/17 03:17 AM
0

Everyone likes strong leadership and it is a phenomenon that women appreciate leadership in relationships. Make sure you understand the difference between a leader and a boss though.
/r/seduction08/11/17 05:39 PM
3

You'll get less matches and responses but you can put something on your profile to indicate what you're looking for. That would be the most honest way to go about it.
/r/seduction04/11/17 06:47 PM
17

Get good at oral, touch her clit while you fuck her, use your fingers and tongue while you take a break to last longer, don't ask to switch positions (just do it), be a little rougher, and communicate. Ask her what she likes and dislikes. As for the relationship, try new things always. Take a dance class. Go hiking. Go surfing. Make some new foods together. Do shit. Don't fall into the trap of Netflix and chill every weekend. Once she realizes her life has devolved into staying in and watching T…
/r/seduction23/10/17 11:25 PM
2

Just stop texting her unless pure setting up a date. Boom, neediness gone.
/r/seduction23/10/17 11:15 PM
1

It's my personal way of describing a man who hasn't grown out of his childish tendencies like seeking validation or getting the last clever line in.
/r/seduction01/09/17 10:07 PM
3

Pretty much every line in here is cringey and needy. If you want to go with her then say "cool see you at blank o'clock" and go, if not, then ask someone else. If you go and have a fucking awesome time, you can go get a drink after and say, "now that we know each other let's go on that date." You don't need a special line for every scenario. If you're not a needy boi it doesn't matter if it's a date or not. You do what sounds fun and if you shave and do your hair, go in with a positive attitude,…
/r/seduction01/09/17 08:52 PM
3

Pretty much every line in here is cringey and needy. If you want to go with her then say "cool see you at blank o'clock" and go, if not, then ask someone else. If you go and have a fucking awesome time, you can go get a drink after and say, "now that we know each other let's go on that date." You don't need a special line for every scenario. If you're not a needy boi it doesn't matter if it's a date or not. You do what sounds fun and if you shave and do your hair, go in with a positive attitude,…
/r/seduction01/09/17 08:51 PM
3

Go on another date? Girls usually give head to people they like.
/r/seduction25/08/17 05:42 PM
5

Wat?...........Just ask her out dude. Let's go get drinks Thursday night at _____ around 9. You in? If she says yes or she suggests a different time, awesome. If she says no, you move on.
/r/seduction25/08/17 05:42 PM
3

I'm not bitter lol. You came in here making misguided comments and it seemed like you needed a reality check.
/r/seduction15/08/17 08:25 PM
6

Sounds like you've never talked to a girl in your life. In baseball and in The Game, batting a .333 is pretty damn impressive.
/r/seduction15/08/17 07:57 PM
1

I've had class with people for multiple years, that doesn't make us friends or anything less than strangers. Unless you've got this persons number and you hang out sometimes, those are inappropriate jokes.The kind of jokes that get you a bad rep.
/r/seduction14/08/17 07:09 PM
2

How: Scenario 1: So she just passed you an now you're behind her? See Scenario 2 Scenario 2: Yes, jog if you literally need to to catch up and then slow to a walking pace before she notices you. Opener: "Hi" "Hey, I'm ______" "Whatsup?" Things to not say: "Do you know where I can find you're number?"
/r/seduction14/08/17 07:04 PM
1

Lol one of the largest and most active cities in the US? Dude just go for a walk downtown and count how many pretty girls walk by that you don't say hi to. Or search Google for, "bars near me."
/r/seduction14/08/17 06:59 PM
1

Uhh you don't say that to any strangers period. The last thing your lab partner wants to think about is you jerking off and she doesn't want your commentary on her handjob skills. If you're on the latter half of a good date, then you can start being sexual. If you're with friends, then joke around freely. If you're around strangers, then have some common sense and act like a socially well adjusted person. Don't talk to girls you barely know about jerking off, even in joke form. Her shields are p…
/r/seduction14/08/17 06:50 PM
1

Definitely try to avoid selfies. Ask a friend to take some head shots of you. And hopefully ou have some photos with friends and of you you doing stuff. If not, whenever you go hiking, play a sport, or go swimming of camping or anything fun with friends, ask someone to get a few photos. You don't need pro photos, just make sure they're not all selfies and no mirror pics.
/r/seduction13/08/17 06:26 PM
12

Pictures: Have at least 4 pictures. Your first picture should either be just you straight up or you and a dog. Make sure it represents well what you look like. The next picture should either be you and some buddies having a good time or you doing something adventurous. For the third, it'd be good to have a picture of you and some pretty girlfriends for that preselection boost. Next one can be any of the above. The more the better. Bio: Keep this short and sweet. If you're over 6' tall, put your …
/r/seduction12/08/17 10:37 PM
9

Online dating requires a certain subset of outer game that you haven't exactly learned from reading Models or watching RSD videos. It's definitely better to go out and work on having real life social interactions, but there's lots of cute girls swimming around online who are wondering why all the guys that message them are lame as fuck. If you can figure out how to not be another one of those guys, it's pretty easy fishing.
/r/seduction12/08/17 04:12 PM
15

Lol this is basically an opinion opener from the days of Mystery and Style.
/r/seduction11/08/17 11:48 PM
1

I believe you, it has a lot to do with the status that your Instagram portrays. If you're a model with top tier photos illustrating an interesting life, then sure girls will bite. But even for good looking interesting guys, most don't put the time in to make their Instagram portray this and hot girls are bound to be flooded wth horny dudes messaging them. The cards are stacked against most people in this field. And honestly, most people just don't have the aesthetics to stand out in an app overs…
/r/seduction08/08/17 05:55 AM
1

Anywhere but Instagram. Preferably somewhere that requires you to put on underwear.
/r/seduction07/08/17 08:38 PM
8

You're thinking too much. You got her number, now what do you do?
/r/seduction07/08/17 08:32 PM
8

Nobody is successful with this kind of stuff. The only reason some girl will want to fuck some guy messaging them on Instagram is if you're Chad and/or a rich manager of a modeling agency. These girls know they're hot, they get dick pics and stupid comments all the time. They don't use Instagram to get laid or to socialize with random dudes, they use it for it's intended purpose. The reason you got a response this time is because you weren't flirting, or at least it wasn't obvious that you were.…
/r/seduction07/08/17 08:29 PM
1

That's called your dream girl, and that's where she lives, in your dreams. As for real girls, try joining a sports league or going to concerts/music festivals.
/r/seduction07/08/17 07:50 PM
8

I think calling them shit tests is a detriment to most people actually trying to get laid. I think it creates a flawed mindset that leads to fake PUAs who end up sad. Shit test implies that a girl is intentionally testing you, and while this probably does happen sometimes, I don't think it's the real concern. We can't walk around thinking girls are out to get us and expect to be attractive males. Basically, a shit test is a scenario where a girl says or does something that provokes a response fr…
/r/seduction07/08/17 07:43 PM
2

You don't, that's not how seduction works. In very simple terms, you seduce people by having a solid personality and sense of self worth and by acting in ways that are attractive. Then you capitalize on opportunities that this mindset and these actions create. This is like casting a fishing line with very enticing bait. The enticing bait is as good as you and your personality and self worth, and casting the line is your actions. You reel in whatever bites, and if it's a good catch, you keep it. …
/r/seduction07/08/17 07:19 PM
3

Good plan. I never had a lock growing up but that didn't stop me. I figured if I get caught I get caught. My parents are fairly smart and logical thinkers. You can't get in THAT MUCH trouble for something that every teen is going to do eventually.
/r/seduction16/07/17 09:14 PM
8

Motel rooms for a night if you're 18. You're not allowed to have anyone over during the day? It doesn't have to be at night. "We're gonna go watch tv!" Then hopefully you're parents don't check on you for 15 minutes lol
/r/seduction16/07/17 05:40 PM
3

Seems like a decent idea man. You're talking to lots of strangers in a small amount of time for the purpose of getting laid and its in a blatantly appropriate environment since everyone is there for the same reason. Can't go wrong with that. Brush up on your outer game and make sure your inner game is solid. Then go for it. I suggest that immediately after or the night of you go out with some buddies and do some cold approaches. You can carry the momentum from speed dating with you and get some …
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:52 PM
3

I disagree. Comfort doesn't come from attraction. This is the reason you can make out with a girl at a club and then never get a response the next day or why girls will flake on dates. I think they're both pretty mutually exclusive.
/r/seduction14/06/17 08:51 PM
3

Well you should also be polarizing. That basically means, make a move. Inaction creates orbiters.
/r/seduction14/06/17 04:53 AM
1

If Models is about Inner Game, the Natural is a book about Outer Game. The biggest point of Models is, "Don't be needy." If you find yourself doing something needy, you have to fix it. If you don't think ou do things that are needy, you should think about it more. Even small things like buying a girl a drink or changing your plans to accommodate her could be needy.
/r/seduction10/06/17 08:26 PM
1

After your opener share some witty banter and then get off Tinder quickly. No more than 10 messages should be exchanged when you suggest coffee/drinks. If you can make it come out naturally as a part of the conversation, that's better. But you can do that with any conversation by conveying, "I'd like to hear more about that interesting topic, how about coffee Thursday around 8," in your own words. People will turn you down, that's fine. If they turn you down, they were going to turn you down aft…
/r/seduction09/06/17 02:53 AM
1

That's right
/r/seduction07/06/17 07:27 PM
2

And how did you get that date then? You're mistaken if you think any part of the seduction process takes place in less than 10 minutes. If you're cold approaching, it should take at least 10 minutes to get a number. If not, you'll be getting lots of non-responders or fake numbers because you didn't lay the framework and build rapport.
/r/seduction06/06/17 06:00 PM
2

You can do that too. Girls like dates though. Especially friends with benefits. Sometimes it makes the difference between feeling used and having fun. Newbies have this idea that dates are about romance and girlfriends. That's wrong. Casual dating is about having fun, having experiences, and forming human connection. That will make you better at seduction and help you get laid a lot more. You can ask 100 horny girls to come over and "chill" and a few might say yes. You'll probably 3,4, or 5 time…
/r/seduction06/06/17 05:52 PM
1

I'm 99% sure if he uses that quote she will ask lol. But you're right.
/r/seduction06/06/17 03:17 PM
4

The gyms not the pace to approach girls, especially with headphones on. At the gym you should be focused on getting jacked, not getting girls. Some qt3.14s may say hi to you once they recognize you as the dedicated guy with nice arms.
/r/seduction06/06/17 08:02 AM
5

Meet her somewhere low key. Coffee, lunch, just a brief meet up to say hi on campus or after work somewhere. Wherever. Just meet up, say hi, and before actually doing some activity (that's not why you met up) say, "listen, I asked you to come here because I needed to let you know I don't feel like our relationship is going to work." Then talk it out briefly. Be honest. Be kind. Tell her you wish the best for her and, and if you feel like being friends let her know that she should contact you aft…
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:59 AM
2

Look at it this way, you had a hot girl naked in your bed all night dude. Great job. It sounds like she's just not that interested. She was probably in it for the adventure, not necessarily you but that's okay, because just having this experience makes you a better you and you'll be more confident and sexy the next time. The solution to this is to be reeeeally fucking sexy. Not looks, but attitude. That doesn't mean pushy, and it definitely doesn't mean needy. It means confident. Appear like you…
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:53 AM
1

r/fitness Dropping bodyfat will help. Acquiring muscles will help. If she's naked and horny she's probably not going to care, so pretend like you've always been an alpha male and go for it.
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:39 AM
1

Depends what your goal is. Less desirable women will send you nudes and ask to fuck because they know you're horny. Highly desirable women will think you're a douche and next you because they can already tell who has a nice body without you needing to show it off. A really inconspicuous beach photo or something may help as your 4th or 5th pic.
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:37 AM
1

The point of Models was certainly not, "Don't be a pushover." If you need a breakdown of the points I can oblige and I'd be happy to answer any newbie questions you may have. I suggest reading The Natural by Richard La Ruina for some practical outer game advice.
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:33 AM
1

Did you get her number? Did you get a date? Did you kiss close? No? Then you failed. Regardless of whether that was a "shit test" or not, the game isn't about passing tests. If you're not making moves then you're not playing the game.
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:24 AM
2

If that's actually your philosophy you'd be compromising your beliefs to get laid a little bit. And you'd be sort of lying to her making promises that are temporary. Nothing good will come from that. The right thing to do would be to turn her down. You were honest, that's good. Now stick to your guns.
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:21 AM
4

I see what you're saying. But a bad rep can absolutely make it harder to game. Maybe not for cold approaches in a big city with many clubs/bars. But in my opinion, social circle game is just as important. And in a smaller town with limited spots, or say on a college campus, you can obtain the reputation of creepy guy who hits on everybody.
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:17 AM
2

If it's obvious that she's into you, then you simply ask her out. If it's not obvious, then you fuck 10 other girls and move on. Either way, you don't "game" your friend. Why? Because she already knows who you are. You can't just suddenly change your personality and behavior towards her. It will be weird and offputting. If she really is into you, then you've already "gamed" her unconsciously. The next step is to ask her out. So you say, "Hey I want to do insert fun activity here. Do you want to …
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:12 AM
2

You're being super weird dude. You're reeking of neediness. You really are acting like a fuck boi, so stop. Just because you don't want anything serious with a girl doesn't mean the progression to getting laid somehow shortens. You still have to be and act attractive. You still have to make a move and ask her out. You still need to build rapport and get to know her. She needs to know that's it's safe to fuck you. She needs to know that she can trust you. You can't just tell her that, you have to…
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:08 AM
9

It does not seem like a newbie would have an easy time deciphering reality from shilling here anymore.
/r/seduction06/06/17 07:01 AM
3

Are you saying you can't improve your likeability and personality? If so, then you're wrong. If not, then why bother saying anything at all?
/r/seduction06/06/17 06:59 AM
5

That's certainly not the problem here. If you can't have a 10 minute conversation with a girl then you have a lot of work to do. If you came here for advice on how to get dates without at least a 10 minute conversation, you missed the exit to Fairyland a few miles back. The problem here is this guy thinks he has game because he got a chubby girls number for YouTube. What we didn't see were his failures and her face lol. These outer game videos are for wannabe MPUAs to sneak their way into the da…
/r/seduction06/06/17 06:55 AM
12

Now let's see it with a hottie. Might want to unfrost those tips first dude.
/r/seduction06/06/17 04:32 AM
0

There's a few little bitch bois that don't actually get laid who post in here. Basically incels mad at us for whatever reason. There's lot of fake alphas giggling about and article giving essentially some quick fashion, grooming, and lifestyle advice because somehow they think they're above it all because they got a number for the first time last weekend. Then there's the guys who do get laid but don't have the self awareness to realize that even though some of this advice is useless to them, it…
/r/seduction28/04/17 08:05 AM
1

What makes them bullshit exactly? Is there not research that says having a beard, being taller, or wearing red might make it more likely that you're seen as attractive? Was there not advice that can be applied to achieve these things? Are these things, or the appearance of these things, unattainable? Or are you just saying shit? Edit: Not one of my questions have been answered bitch bois.
/r/seduction28/04/17 01:12 AM
5

No, you handled it poorly. Instead of being honest: I don't see myself ever marrying this girl You chose to give her the cliche lines of ages. It doesn't matter, the results are the same. Obviously she's mad, you've been fucking her for a year knowing damn well you didn't want a relationship and that she did. If you care about other people's feelings, be in relationships where everyone is on the same page.
/r/seduction24/04/17 06:33 AM
1

If she's into you it won't matter. She'll just be extra excited when you end up asking her on a date.
/r/seduction24/04/17 04:24 AM
2

I say don't worry about it. I doubt you'll be able to isolate her. Think about it, she's not going to just ditch her friend. Your best bet is to be fun and flirty with both girls. Just have a really good time. Sure, bring them both back to your place for more drinks. Just enjoy their company and show them that you're a social fun loving guy. Nothing will probably happen. Later, ask the girl you like on a date 1 on 1.
/r/seduction24/04/17 04:03 AM
2

Do you frequently bring home two chicks to have sex with? Do these girls frequently engage in 3 ways? Most people dont, seems like a stretch.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:41 AM
1

That's how you get friendzoned, enough said. It's not just that, it's your hesitation that's going to friendzone you. If you know she's attracted to you then ask her out on a date already. She can unload all her baggage on you after you've had sex.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:40 AM
2

I would never ever go on that date. I'd flake. "Hey I thought I was gonna get a chance to hang out with you, I wasn't really trying to hang out with a group tonight. I hope y'all fun!" Then I'd move on. You asked her so you're in charge of the event. She brought a plus one to your shin dig without asking homie! You have to put your foot down.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:36 AM
1

Basically you're saying that you're so worthless that you deserve a cheater as a girlfriend. Have some standards.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:32 AM
0

Why? I like the errors. That's what he typed, leave it be.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:29 AM
1

Honestly.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:27 AM
2

No that's not normal and not the process of successfully navigating the game. It will pretty much be an instant no unless you're a rich movie star or model.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:27 AM
2

Ask her on another date. Escalate more gradually. A kiss isn't a surprise, you should be close enough physically that it's expected. In a group setting, hang out with the group. That's what she's there for after all. Don't be weird and try to only talk to her. You'll be taking away from her chance to interact with all of your mutual friends. That's needy and is not attractive.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:20 AM
1

If she says, "I have a boyfriend," after a date; she either has a boyfriend or she wants you to fuck off. It never means, "please prove to me how much you want me." If she wants to cheat on her boyfriend, she won't bring him up or she'll tell you so.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:17 AM
1

Why would you pay for your coworker's shit? She has a job and money. Pay for your own stuff.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:15 AM
1

The second. But there's lots of lead up to that. You can't just ask random attractive girls to go on dates out of the blue. Well, you can, but you won't succeed. Read the sidebar and immerse yourself in the theory --->
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:14 AM
2

If you're confident you can give her an orgasm on your kitchen table then go for it. But a couch that's half the length of your body or a counter top with a hard flat slightly salmonella splattered surface might not set you up for success. I say just take her to your bed and make her cum. If she has an orgasm, you're probably different form 90% of the guys she's been with automatically.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:11 AM
3

Dope. I'd rather read Book of Pook than The Art of Seduction though for some good mindset therapy.
/r/seduction14/04/17 11:09 PM
1

She said she's not into you so move on. And please stop buying girls gifts unless they're your girlfriend or very good platonic friend. You can't buy a girls affection.
/r/seduction12/04/17 12:59 AM
-1

I was just kidding, I'll probably have some miller light this weekend lol
/r/seduction11/04/17 11:40 PM
2

It's a traumatizing experience. She's had an experience that has permanently altered her perception of the world and she needs to feel more safe and more comfortable than other girls before she'll be able to happily have sex with someone. That's not LMR. If you go swimming and you get bit by a shark, you might not want to go swimming anymore. If your friend a month later says, "hey lets go swimming," and you're like, "nah man I got bit by a shark recently and I'm not ready to get back in the wat…
/r/seduction11/04/17 11:31 PM
-37

I guess if you want to be a bitch boi lol. Light beer is for high school kids trying to get a buzz with their lunch money and dads with potbellies. Drink something with substance or don't drink at all.
/r/seduction11/04/17 06:06 PM
1

About 90% of the people shitposting about their virginity probably. Are you in charge of your life or what?
/r/seduction11/04/17 05:58 PM
2

Stop romanticizing romantic movies, they're fake. Watch 500 Days of Summer to see an example of how Hollywood and the music industry are creating chumps.
/r/seduction11/04/17 05:57 PM
3

I enjoy casual dating so my advice is more geared towards scoring a date and finding someone to do shit with. But there's other benefits too. You're right, a blatant kino approach is the best way to find someone who's DTF quickly. But you're gonna filter out a bunch of girls who would be DTF after a couple of dates but don't appreciate the guy they've seen bouncing set to set touching them randomly. My way I'm still gonna have a one night stand if they're down, I might just spend an extra hour t…
/r/seduction11/04/17 05:46 PM
1

Sounds fine man. Make sure you look up some oral sex tips and wear a condom for fucks sake
/r/seduction11/04/17 06:31 AM
3

Body language, eye contact, social proof (rolling up to the club with a bunch of girls), relating deeply to their interests, storytelling that shows positive qualities about you, teasing, joking, games, dancing, kino, etc.
/r/seduction11/04/17 03:39 AM
2

It's called inner game. Building yourself into someone worth fucking. If that means growing a beard in your opinion, then that's what you do. Whatever makes you feel naturally confident and attractive. But outer game is pretty important if you intend to get a quality girl into your bed on the first night you meet her.
/r/seduction11/04/17 03:36 AM
10

Well there's typically a solid amount of build up to f-closing (fuck-closing) so it's not really that easy. A simple, general, and old school description of the process is open (introduce yourself), attract (demonstrate value), comfort (build rapport), some kind of close (number, kiss, probably not fuck), bridge (time between meetings), build more comfort and hopefully f-close. You should check out the side bar to the right and read as much of the theory as you can. -->
/r/seduction11/04/17 03:33 AM
2

Shake hands, hug, high five, teaching her a "secret" handshake, games where you touch hands, "incidental" arm contact when walking side by side, light arm touches to show excitement. You can easily get a few of these in casually over a 30-60 minute period. That's kino. Slow and steady progression. If she responds poorly, then you stop.
/r/seduction11/04/17 03:16 AM
1

Ah fuck it, you're not too bright. You try to help a newbie out and they act like they've got it all figured out. I guess you'll have to learn the hard way....
/r/seduction11/04/17 02:29 AM
1

I'm not saying Mystery is a bad person. He's not. I'm saying his reality is a result of his attitude towards women, The Game, and happiness. If you try to emulate him, you'll end up with similar results. All of the current methods are in some way based on the original MM except they're better. You don't have to care about the opinion of those that are ahead of you, but a smart man who wanted to succeed would care a lot.
/r/seduction11/04/17 01:56 AM
1

Uh offense taken considering you're straight up accusing me of lying. http://www.vocativ.com/279467/infamous-pickup-artist-mystery-has-epic-facebook-meltdown/ You're a fucking noob dude. You should be in this sub learning. I'll say it again. Anyone using the Mystery Method in 2017 is a fool. You're the kind of guy who thinks The Game by Style is a manual. Pro-tip, it's actually a warning. Now ask me how I know you don't get laid.
/r/seduction11/04/17 01:02 AM
1

And where is Mystery now? I'll give you a hint: I've been stuck inside without friends or a girlfriend or hope of ever seeing my children again for 30 days since New Years. It's maddening. I'm having a difficult time with survival now. I hate existence. It's futile. It's lonely. It's boring. I didn't deserve this. It's almost too hard to keep going. -Erik von Markovik Mystery is the father of PUA, no doubt. But you'd be a fool to try and emulate him in 2017. The Game has changed for the better.
/r/seduction11/04/17 12:55 AM
5

First off, take a giant step back and do a little introspection. There's two kinds of players in the world: The kind that offer women amazing experiences through real human connection. The kind that perform for the purpose of getting laid at all costs. The former is natural, honest, and non-needy. This player leaves a trail of happy women and is usually satisfied with his life. The latter is the kind that ends up being 55 at the club washing down his viagra with whiskey and wondering how his dog…
/r/seduction11/04/17 12:49 AM
1

That's kind of cool! Surely that's what I'd do with someone "famous" lol. I imagine the fuck bois practicing downtown won't be nearly as charismatic.
/r/seduction11/04/17 12:13 AM
1

Hahah I agree. I'm more asking about your reaction, how you would want to be seen on an infield video. Most guys are clueless for a second, some get irate lol, others just leave. They're obviously treating you like the AMOG so you're bound to feel a little pressure to not look like a chump while your girl tells them off. I know my girl will handle herself, but I'd also like her to feel like I handled myself appropriately too and that I had her back in needed. Which is probably pretty easy consid…
/r/seduction10/04/17 11:15 PM
1

Oh I wouldn't delude myself into thinking I'm Tyler's equal in seduction by any means haha. But I'm pretty confident my girl would not make for a good infield example unless for a video of getting blown out lol. If she's out with me you can bet she's already having an adventure and looking forward to a good dicking. She's still under the impression that I might be a player lol ;P I just think it'd be cool to not look like a chump in the background of said hypothetical video.
/r/seduction10/04/17 04:23 PM
1

The girl wasn't really cooperating though. She didn't rest her hand on him when he draped it over his shoulder, and he had to hook her arm and drag her to get her over somewhere else. Ah I see that now. Kind of scummy. I know what RSD does works, but the few girls who aren't about it must feel pretty violated being dragged around like that. It's posted as an infield example, so I assume RSD believes she was down. But who's to say. Anyways, good insights man!
/r/seduction10/04/17 04:14 PM
2

Good points man! This is the video where he swoops a girl away from her man for about 20 seconds at 8:10: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZYIeD-Fr9do#t=08m10s. That's the one that got me thinking. It doesn't last long or go far, but that's only because Tyler actually recognizes the boyfriend/chump not knowing what to do. I'm definitely comfortable with my relationship. No doubt she'd handle it. But she's super hot so I expect at some point someone (with way less game than Tyler Durden or myself) wil…
/r/seduction10/04/17 03:11 PM
2

Hahah awesome story. I'm pretty sure my girl would kick him in the dick. But then again, Tyler Durden and RSD are kind of the embodiment of what many guys in this community hope to achieve. He frequently manhandles girls away from their SOs. Surely we're not setting ourselves up to pull a lower class of girl, right? And surely this MPUA everyone looks up to isn't a dick, right? Right?
/r/seduction10/04/17 02:41 PM
4

she sounds pretty cute That's risky breh
/r/seduction10/04/17 12:21 PM
4

Brad Pitt's charisma, Edward Norton's looks, and Tyrone's dick.
/r/seduction10/04/17 11:03 AM
2

Hahah that's not bad actually. Maybe I'd literally pick him up and pretend like I'm doing an opener lol. Worst case scenario he games me back and I have to fuck him.
/r/seduction10/04/17 10:24 AM
3

Owen could walk up and steal your closest future prospect man. Your first born child could come out a pasty ginger headed PUA Mesiah. Don't think you're safe by any means.
/r/seduction10/04/17 10:13 AM
1

RSD does great stuff. On a more serious level, while I believe in the 3 second rule, there are times when you're more likely to succeed in your approach than others. Think about the woman's mindset for a second. Lost, really need to pee, scanning around for the bathroom. You know, just stressed and oblivious to the social scene around her. That's not the time to get the best reaction! Now when she's standing around with her friends going, "Wooooooooh!" and laughing, it would take a severe fuck u…
/r/seduction10/04/17 08:28 AM
2

•Download Tinder •Set she 18-23 •Swipe right •Get matches These girls purposefully allowed your age range to match with them.
/r/seduction10/04/17 06:38 AM
10

I'm doing it because it's my passion That gets pussies really wet.
/r/seduction10/04/17 06:34 AM
3

How many people do you know in real life that actually go out and talk to strangers, get their numbers, and then get laid? I know the answer, not many. I bring that up for 2 reasons: It's Uncommon: People are creatures of habit. We stick to our patterns, and when something seems weird we scrutinize it as a natural response. Men who sit on their computers all day or who've been in the same stale marriage for 12 years while his wife flirts with Chad at Hot Yoga imagine pick up as being some manipu…
/r/seduction10/04/17 06:26 AM
1

You seem to be under the impression that there's a dichotomy between committed and casual. You don't just fire up Tinder and ask a girl to be your long term partner. You can have a girlfriend without buying her a house. Most girls are gonna run away if you ask them to be your girlfriend if you haven't been seeing each other casually for a couple of months. And they'll run away when you ask them to meet your mom the next day lol. I have a girlfriend but we both have goals and ambitions. We suppor…
/r/seduction10/04/17 06:07 AM
2

You have to be subtle with your shitposts man. 9 hot dogs? Like a girl's ever seen anyone eat more than 3 before on. Waste of money. Just pull a few out of the package from the grocery store and walk out. No alarm thingys most places.
/r/seduction10/04/17 06:00 AM
1

Are you lost? That's usually what I tel guys at my parties who are fuckingn around in my house doing shit they're not supposed to lol. She probably thought you wanted to fight. Anyways, shit happens man. At least you're working on it. Remember, ~80% of what happens after the initial approach has nothing to do with you! You can't predict a girls mindset or reality.
/r/seduction10/04/17 05:11 AM
1

Yeah dude. In fact, it's healthy. Live your life, chase your dreams. Keep being your best self on your own time. When you finally get to meet up with your girl, you should have plenty to talk about and you'll continue to impress her with your attractive lifestyle. I think spending too much time together leads to complacency and stagnation.
/r/seduction10/04/17 05:06 AM
1

Hahah well if that's your goal then go for it!
/r/seduction10/04/17 05:04 AM
2

Talk to your doctor and see if you can get a script for some viagra. Just take half for the first couple of sexual interactions with a girl and then taper off. Don't freak out about it. It perfectly normal and fine. If it happens, just ask the girl to help you out. She'll probably blow you without hesitation lol. Don't feel like you have to rush to initiate sex either. Cuddle for bit. Take her clothes off slowly, take your clothes off slowly. Lay next to her and make out, feel her body, finger h…
/r/seduction10/04/17 05:02 AM
1

Maybe. Try it obviously, there's no reason not to. But don't be disappointed if nothing works out. Just enjoy yourself. Enjoy the music. Flirt a little. Get some numbers, make some friends. I would never settle for some average girl just because I was horny and there was no other girls around. Don't expect a high value girl to settle for you! It's definitely a good opportunity to practice some approaches and work out the kinks in your game.
/r/seduction10/04/17 04:56 AM
2

Take her to a quieter lounge at night for some drinks. Bounce to a different venue at least once. This could just be a little stroll around the block, but if there's a night time ice cream shop or coffee shop around that could be a cool change of pace. Talk and get to know her. Joke around a little, and tease her. Demonstrate value by relating to her interests and telling her some stuff about you. Don't brag though. Tell stories and give answers that show you're value indirectly. The most import…
/r/seduction10/04/17 04:53 AM
1

I think you're on the right track. She's probably wondering why you won't fuck her lol. But who knows, it does sound very weird.
/r/seduction10/04/17 04:45 AM
1

Slow down there Slick. That not a plan that's an event. Is it a good place to meet women? It's seems perfectly adequate. If you're good looking, confident, social, or in other words if your game is tight; you may just get some numbers. You could do the same at your local popular bar right fucking now, no tickets needed.
/r/seduction10/04/17 04:38 AM
1

Do the same thing at a different location. Kiss her during the date, not at the end. If you have the opportunity to make out, do so. Basically escalate more physically and keep having fun!
/r/seduction09/04/17 11:10 PM
1

I would grab their hips and grind back for a bit, then push them away (sort of like "I don't need you or anyone") Girls don't like this. It's creepy. They tolerate it because they don't know what kind of sicko just comes up and rubs his dick on their ass and they're too afraid to push you away. Then you let go and they go tell the bouncers. Try approaching them from the front next time.
/r/seduction08/04/17 11:05 PM
1

Lol you're gonna stick out like a sore thumb. Being the groups weirdo/outcast in not a good way to practice pickup. If you're not a naturist, and aren't actually interested in adopting their beliefs and culture, then don't fake it.
/r/seduction08/04/17 11:02 PM
1

It is a good way to meet girls but....the people involved in the salsa scene aren't doing it to hook up! Just be aware of that. If you cold approach too much or try to kino every girl you dance with you're gonna get a stigma and end up ostracized. Dancing isn't about sex contrary to what you may have seen in pop culture. Dancing is sensual, not sexual. Don't go around killing people's vibe. That said, getting out and trying new things and meeting new people is always a great way to practice your…
/r/seduction08/04/17 10:59 PM
4

Why did you spend all of that time and effort learning stuff if you're just going to forget it? You shouldn't act like a robot if that's what you're asking. And you shouldn't freak out if things don't play out like the rules say they're supposed to. But try doing what you learned. With practice, it'll become natural and you'll no longer need to focus on the rules.
/r/seduction08/04/17 10:55 PM
2

Still get shredded though, it helps lol
/r/seduction08/04/17 10:53 PM
1

It should also dictate that I beat the shit out of anyone staring at my girl but usually I'm not ready to go to jail. We're not primal animals anymore. Our entire existence isn't dictated by our evolution. Some primates are monogamous anyways. It's not impossible for monogamy to evolve. For a primate who's children take so long to develop, it would make sense for monogamy to be an advantage in passing on genes.
/r/seduction03/04/17 02:23 PM
2

Hahah the good news is you can do both! I recommend reading Models by Mark Manson. Free audiobook with Audible free trial if that's your thing. No shill btw lol.
/r/seduction30/03/17 09:46 PM
4

It's not necessarily scarcity as it is non-neediness. If you continue to be your own person, challenge them, and pursue your own dreams and ambitions, then you're still expressing the traits that attracted them. The only difference is you're taking them along for the journey. If you stop hanging out with your friends, start texting them 24/7 to see where they are, and never go out with them instead opting for Netflix and chill nights, then you'll lose them. You've stopped growing as a person and…
/r/seduction30/03/17 03:19 PM
1

You're not husband material until you're having sex lol. Some needy actions stop being needy once you're already having sex with a girl. Doing stuff like that to try and win them over is needy. If you're already getting laid, then you're not trying to exchange romantic gestures for approval. Suddenly the girls excited to see you left her flowers instead of creeped out.
/r/seduction30/03/17 02:25 PM
1

You should try being your best self. It's not about acting a certain way. Don't try to emulate some version of yourself that you remember.
/r/seduction29/03/17 10:49 AM
1

No because you're not supposed to live your life by following a manual. Learn to have some real human connection. Learn by trial and error. Life is a learning experience. Sometimes you mess up, but you learn and make it further next time. You can do it man.
/r/seduction29/03/17 10:47 AM
3

You thought of them as friends. That allows you to not act needy around them. This comes off as aloof and confident. They're probably kind of nerdy too, right? So you share common interests and goals, and you're not needy or constantly trying to win them over. You're a catch. All the other guys are sending them corny poetry or texting them to ask them how their day is. You act like you could have any girl you want and don't need to chase. See how that's an attractive quality?
/r/seduction29/03/17 10:44 AM
6

That's incredibly cringey. No lines OP, have a conversation like a normal person. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI
/r/seduction29/03/17 10:41 AM
3

What's the difference between rejection and not trying? Either way you're not getting what you want. Might as well try.
/r/seduction29/03/17 10:39 AM
1

Someone didn't read the manual.
/r/seduction29/03/17 05:18 AM
1

A lot of people in here are stuck in "follow the manual" mode. There's lots of way to not be needy y'all and doing something that could be taken as needy doesn't really matter if you truly don't give a fuck. Trying to think 8 steps ahead is also needy. And cringey.
/r/seduction29/03/17 05:01 AM
1

Everyone else wants to give some good advice but in the wrong context. Let me answer your question, you are right. Just like any other form of online dating, waiting days or weeks to ask her out is a mistake. The sooner you can get her number and set up a date, he better. She knows from your pictures and from your banter whether or not she's be willing to meet you or not. A week is too much time to allow that initial attraction to cool down. She's a busy and presumably hot girl. She doesn't have…
/r/seduction29/03/17 04:45 AM
2

Right now is the critical rebound zone. Girls want a pair of strong arms and some good sex more than they want "some time." Some time is an excuse they tell to guys they're turning down. Unless the breakup was traumatic (like he cheated on her or dumped her out of the blue) then she was over him and looking for her next thing before she broke it off. Even if he dumped her, she's not gonna sit back and let him win the breakup. This all maybe sounds immature, but we're all human. There will be a r…
/r/seduction29/03/17 04:41 AM
1

You want to fall in love with someone and get married and then get dragged to church every Sunday until you eventually break down saying you hate it and then end up divorced? Don't base your dating life on lies. You're the fucking prize here. You don't need to tip toe around topics of conversation to try and win someone over. Be honest to yourself, and if you're not compatible with someone, accept it and move on. There's plenty of fish in the sea, and there's mutiple seas. Don't settle for a tun…
/r/seduction29/03/17 04:35 AM
1

Let's let the mods worry about that.
/r/seduction29/03/17 04:30 AM
1

Well for one you won't be kissing anyone unless you're asking them out and going on dates, so make sure you do that. Step 2 is physical escalation. Hug her, give a high five, out your arm around her, hold her hand. If you do all of that, it'll be easier to kiss her.
/r/seduction29/03/17 04:25 AM
1

Lol some people are more aesthetically pleasing then others. If you wanna date large people than nobody should stop you, but you're being a tiny bit hypocritical with your comment. Some people want to date the girls that would objectively be described as hot girls. Don't judge.
/r/seduction29/03/17 04:23 AM
1

If you live somewhere with many universities, you could always head to a different campus to practice. Avoid any social stigma that way.
/r/seduction29/03/17 04:21 AM
3

It would be a mistake in most cases. It would be appropriate only if the date is essentially a day 2. That means, if you met her on a night out with friends, and you spent hours with her laughing, flirting, dancing, touching, etc., then maybe she's ready to be kissed. That's because the first meeting was basically the first date already. I'd do it before setting up a real date to be smooth. Otherwise the first kiss will be like a goodbye kiss which is weird in my opinion. But now let's move into…
/r/seduction29/03/17 04:16 AM
1

The fuck? You've got it backwards. How do you mitigate the self hate from being in a reationship when all these sexy single women are walking around smiling at you?
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:37 AM
1

You deserve everything you're willing to work for and nothing more.
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:31 AM
1

You can say hi to anyone anywhere. Just use common sense. Is she on the phone? Then leave her alone. Are you at the gym? Then stop being a needy bitch boi and lift some weights. Is she in a rush and saying, "sorry can't talk?" Then don't call her a bitch or follow her 6 blocks to her work. Be friendly and social everywhere you go. In line at the grocery store? Perfect. At the park walking dogs? Excellent. You're a competent guy (I assume). Trust your gut.
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:28 AM
2

Why would you want to?
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:25 AM
1

That just means relate feelings and emotions to your conversation, rather than just facts. It's one thing to tell a girl about the time you climbed a mountain. It's another to express to her how that felt. You don't need to tell her about the time uncle coach touched your wiener.
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:24 AM
1

If you say it like a nervous bitch boi. Admitting being nervous is courageous, if you present it that way. Body language and non verbal communication play a large role in this.
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:22 AM
1

Be sexy a fuark
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:20 AM
2

There's lots of fPUAs already. Also, NLP is bullshit. Unless you want to NLP your way through every interaction for the rest of your life, I highly suggest taking a more natural approach. It might seem like magic, but that's because your a woman. You already have an advantage and can make many guys do whatever you want without magic tricks. Just give IOIs and anyone who both finds you attractive and has at least one figurative testicle will make a move.
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:19 AM
4

You have a minority view, and somehow you don't understand that different people want different things? Dude...
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:14 AM
1

Lol there's definitely a such thing as indicators of disinterest. And even just being neutral probably means she DOESN'T want you groping her. On a date, a slow gradual kino might work. In a club setting, no IOIs is not a good time to start touching people.
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:12 AM
4

Dude you should definitely take 10k of that and travel. THe experiences may seem fleeting, but the insight and knowledge you'll gain will shape your character in a lasting way. That's what makes you attractive, not your sweet bachelor pad. What're you gonna do, brag to girls at the club about your 80" tv and your fish tank? Get real! Show them the Latin dance moves you learn in the Doninican and they'll be dying to see your place, big screen or not.
/r/seduction25/03/17 03:06 AM
2

Say, "Sorry that sucks, I'll find someone to go with though. Let me know if you change your mind!"
/r/seduction25/03/17 02:57 AM
11

You need to see a therapist.
/r/seduction20/03/17 06:47 AM
4

Lol no. Not you not win that attitude. You can accept that you need to work on yourself though. That would likely work.
/r/seduction20/03/17 06:46 AM
9

What the fuck are you trying to say? This board is primarily heterosexual because the world is primarily heterosexual. Guys going for guys, girls going for girls, and girls going for guys occasionally post here for advice and we do our best. But the theories here were developed primarily by heterosexual guys, with input from women on how heterosexual guys can be attractive to girls. It's probably biased but it's all evidence based.
/r/seduction12/03/17 03:19 PM
3

All the newbies wanna talk about how great MM is until they end up divorced with 2 kids they never get to see :( It's just really not sustainable foundation for a lasting relationship.
/r/seduction12/03/17 03:15 PM
12

Which in turn makes you turn girls completely off :P
/r/seduction12/03/17 03:13 PM
1

Yeah but that wasn't the question. Why do you want her when you're here describing bad qualities? Also that's a terrible mindset. The last ember if hope usually burns out a decent time period after the neediness sets in.
/r/seduction12/03/17 06:01 AM
1

Your point is your at home sometimes and don't see any girls? It's a small comment, is there a metaphor or something that I missed?
/r/seduction11/03/17 07:27 AM
1

This. You can tell a guy at the club doesn't get laid when you see him approach a set and ask, "So you ladies taken?" Lol what a bitch boi.
/r/seduction10/03/17 09:36 PM
4

It's not, "lifestyle building," it's living. Living your life isn't avoiding, it's giving a shit about things besides girls. If you recognize opportunities to approach, and capitalize on them, there's no reason you should have to take a day to just try and get numbers. There's a reason naturals are always getting laid without spending hours of their day approaching.
/r/seduction10/03/17 09:00 PM
1

It doesn't have to be the first date You can can give a playful push or a touch on the arm to any girl who you've approached after 5-10 minutes of flirting. The first date is more a a sure place to start since you can assume this person is mildly interested in you. Not everyone you approach will be into you or want to be touched. But if they give you indicators of interest (IOIs) during the conversations try and escalate and see what happens. As for sex, you can search the Internet for sex tips.…
/r/seduction10/03/17 08:55 PM
3

Kino. That's physical escalation. From the very first date you should be escalating your touching slowly and gradually. So hugs, to arm touches, to teaching them a handshake, to hand holding, to kissing, to making out, to foreolay, to sex. If you get to the third date and you haven't started that process, consider the chemistry gone.
/r/seduction10/03/17 08:35 PM
3

Being needy and/or not giving thhem orgasms. You've fucked them by 4-5 hang outs, right?
/r/seduction10/03/17 08:00 PM
3

Nah, this is the kind of mindset that leads to unfulfilling relationships because you're needy and your goal in life is to score a girl, any girl. If you're lifestyle is attractive and you learn to open your mouth and say hi when opportunities arise, you don't have to do stuff like this.
/r/seduction10/03/17 07:56 PM
0

You're brain has more than enough time to register that. In fact, it has enough time to register, "she's hot, should I approach, nah I'm a bitch." If you see a hot girl in line at the grocery store then say hi. There's no simpler explanation than that. You don't use a how to guide to wipe your ass do you?
/r/seduction10/03/17 07:53 PM
22

You don't come by it, you create it.
/r/seduction10/03/17 07:51 PM
1

Why go home? You have 7 hours to sleep, 9 hours to work, 2 hours to eat/shit/and shower per day. That leave you with 6 hours to do something fun or stimulating. Take a class, go to a coffee shop/bookstore, lift weights, play a sport. Fuck sitting on the couch shitposting on Reddit.
/r/seduction10/03/17 07:51 PM
1

Fuck yes. God tier, changed my life.
/r/seduction09/03/17 07:30 AM
3

Models by Mark Manson and his website are a good place to start. James Marshall does good stuff too.
/r/seduction09/03/17 07:07 AM
1

Average looking guys? Yes. Average acting guys? No.
/r/seduction09/03/17 04:43 AM
1

Yep. The lifting and eating right and enough to gain muscle is the concious effort. Think about those guys that are getting attention and doing well with women. List some of their qualities for me.
/r/seduction09/03/17 03:27 AM
2

Yes, but nobody here would give that specific advice to a guy. Your sentiment yes, but not the advice above.
/r/seduction09/03/17 02:14 AM
2

No, it's either the truth or a kind way of saying leave me the fuck alone weirdo.
/r/seduction08/03/17 06:27 PM
4

You're eating out of the palm of their hands you weirdo. Stop staring and start doing. I assume you can sit wherever you want in this class. Next time they come in and sit down, get your ass up and sit next to them. Say, "hi I'm so and so." Make small talk, then, ask if they did/brought the non-existent homework. Watch them get flustered as a shit eating grin forms on your face. Let them know you're just kidding as they flirting get mad at you "You had me going OP! tehe." Opening and attraction …
/r/seduction08/03/17 06:22 PM
2

Sounds like advice an AFC would give. Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she should act AFC.
/r/seduction08/03/17 06:14 PM
3

Well for one thing, you already know she's into you! So it really diesnt matter how you pursue her as long as you actually do pursue her. At this point I would tell a guy to ask her on a date. That's the next step once you have her number. You know she's into you, so pick something chill like drinks, and be ready to move the date to yours or her place. Have a drink or two and escalate physically. Touch her a little, not sexually, but sensually. Rub her leg, hold her hand, whatever allows you to …
/r/seduction08/03/17 06:11 PM
1

Smell is an exaggeration. But the subtle non verbal communication cues you express on a daily basis will be more masculine with higher testosterone. Plus you'll just feel bolder and more confident. You'll give off an alpha vibe. No smell though.
/r/seduction08/03/17 08:52 AM
1

Basically you'll naturally act more alpha. No concious effort required (except for the lifting weights of course).
/r/seduction08/03/17 07:07 AM
1

Give an example? I can't imagine this being a deal breaker at all. Be ransom, but don't let that prevent you from having a conversation. If you bring up something out of left field, talk about it before moving too quickly to something else randomly. Kino is more important than what you're saying anyways. As long as the conversation is fun and you're kinoing, the content of the conversation isn't too important.
/r/seduction08/03/17 06:23 AM
1

Self improvement is very effective. It builds confidence inherently, but especially acquiring a more aesthetic body can be a huge confident boost. Not to mention that girls will find you more naturally attractive and you'll naturally produce more testosterone which could give an edge. That's a great way to work on inner game.
/r/seduction08/03/17 06:17 AM
1

Try reading Models by Mark Manson. Free audiobook with Audible 30-day free trial (I'm not a shill, just a tip). Also, the Book of Pook is very good and it's on YouTube.
/r/seduction08/03/17 06:11 AM
1

That's what inner game is man! It just means being the best you that you can be. It means having ambitions and chasing your dreams. It means making changes in your life so that when you wake up and look in the mirror you honestly think, "who wouldn't want to date me?" This also includes expanding your social circle. You can keep your old friends, but you'll want to surround yourself with positive go getters as well. No lie, try getting friend zoned. The friend zone is where hot girls who turned …
/r/seduction08/03/17 06:09 AM
1

Believe it or not, it's highly unlikely that you'll have sex on the first date. Essentially, you have to run into the right girl with the right intentions. There's not really a trick for making it happen. You can however do some things to find out if this is the case, and you don't exactly have to ruin the chance of a second date in the process. First off, kino. If you're not kissing, obviously you're not getting laid tonight. If you're not making out, rubbing each other, biting each other's lip…
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:58 AM
4

Keeno Im a certified dating guru so you can trust me Kek! Might as well say insert wiener into hole :P Subtle bait, 10/10, would laugh again
/r/seduction08/03/17 05:54 AM
1

The underlying principles are. Then they're tweaked slightly, given a catchy name, and put in a book and sold online by self proclaimed "gurus" and "experts" to fund their lifestyles. Here's some more behavioral psychology, performing is the best way to land a doomed relationship. I strongly believe these should be used with the concious intent of becoming a naturally adept communicator and that inner game is the most important aspect to seduction. I guess that is highly dependent on ones goals …
/r/seduction08/03/17 01:34 AM
1

Girls in relationships don't cheat on their boyfriends with nice guys. How do you stop being a nice guy? Moving on is a good start. If I were you, I'd befriend this girl and her boyfriend and expand my social circle for the opportunity to meet her friends who are probably as hot as she is. Try inviting them both to meet up at a club.
/r/seduction07/03/17 11:39 PM
2

All of these techniques are made up and passed along based on anecdotal evidence. Try them for yourself to decide what works best for you, and don't pay for any seduction advice. And remember, the goal isn't to have a set of tricks to be able to score women. It's to become naturally attractive and capable of communicating your desire.
/r/seduction07/03/17 11:37 PM
1

Lol that's not how you seduce a woman.
/r/seduction07/03/17 11:34 PM
1

This isn't the best place for LTR advice. You can always speak about your problems with your girlfriend. What matters is how to talk about your problems. Don't be a whiny boy and don't place the burden of these problems (literally or emotionally) on them.
/r/seduction07/03/17 11:33 PM
6

From my perspective, this guy giving you advice plays too many games. Bro, this was your first date with her! Of course she doesn't want to hang out everyday with you! Just tone it down a little. She's not necessarily blowing you off, she spent a good night hanging out with you and now she needs to do shit for herself. Don't worry if a girl stays over and you don't have sex. Of course you should escalate and try, but it's unlikely to happen on the first date, and that's not a bad sign, it's norm…
/r/seduction07/03/17 11:29 PM
1

You're a bitch
/r/seduction07/03/17 11:23 PM
1

Sure dude. There's this phenomenon where girls are incredibly nice to people who they assume are way below their league. Let me know when you're getting laid consistantly. When in doubt, try losing weight.
/r/seduction07/03/17 06:09 PM
1

So you have sex with all of these girls, or you turn them down?
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:41 PM
2

I don't believe for one second that a 340lbs dude gets approached by hot girls. Your version of hot is leagues below my version of hot.
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:22 PM
2

In gym clothes on their way to the gym to get big.
/r/seduction07/03/17 04:13 PM
0

Nothing to do with your looks When will this meme die? Try getting shredded and tell me your success doesn't increase.
/r/seduction07/03/17 04:11 PM
2

To the right where it says, "New Here?" --->
/r/seduction07/03/17 04:10 PM
1

So you'd rather construct a line? That's about the least PUA thing you can say it you actually mean it. The fact that you're approaching them might make them skeptical considering most guys don't do that, but that doesn't mean you should sit on your ass instead of saying hi.
/r/seduction07/03/17 04:08 PM
1

Depends, if you're friendzoned it's 99% "we're just friends" and 1% "alright let's fuck." That girl you've always wanted to ask out but never had the guts to, her saying yes is pretty much a myth. Once a girl has developed an impression of you, that's pretty much how it stays. If you want to ask a girl out, make a good first impression and ask pretty soon after that, usually on the first or second interaction.
/r/seduction07/03/17 03:56 PM
3

You don't just "fuck a girl." First you have to approach her. You have to introduce yourself. Here's where you meet a barrier. She may not be attracted to you or interested for a variety of reasons. You keep trying with other girls you find attractive, and if you're taking care of your personal life in a way that makes you attractive, you'll eventually get past this first barrier. Now you keep talking to the girls who are receptive to you, and build rapport and comfort. Then you ask for their nu…
/r/seduction07/03/17 03:52 PM
1

Casual dating means you go on dates with people with no expectations of anything greater. You date, decide if you like them or not, and decide if they get more dates or not. If you decide not, then you move in and date someone else. Casual dating is a process of meeting new people, having fun experiences, and discovering connections. This could lead to a long term relationship if you happen to find someone that meets your standards and makes you happy. A FWB is a relationship but with a mutual u…
/r/seduction07/03/17 03:40 PM
8

Yep just like that. You say you've read the books and theories right? So now it's time to practice. Approach, use your opener, build create attraction, build some comfort and rapport, and try to number close. If you get some numbers, try to get dates. So on and so forth. The theory does you no good sitting in your head. Use it. Keep a journal of your approaches. Write a brief description of the approach and the outcome. Critique the parts of each approach and document how you'll change it for ne…
/r/seduction07/03/17 03:35 PM
2

Of course 90% aren't paying attention to you, why should they? They're not playing the same game as you, and afterall, if they were how would this exercise set you apart. The whole point of the challenge is to develop confidence in social situations. It has very little to actually do with the actual eye contact. I bet the problem is that you're trying very hard to force eye contact, and then you look like a creepy dude staring. THATS WRONG! So what's right you ask? Well when you're walking from …
/r/seduction07/03/17 02:40 AM
1

And so is going on r/seduction to try and get laid, yet here we are a part of this community. Stop living by the book man. You're overthinking this one.
/r/seduction07/03/17 12:01 AM
1

Anything easy/fun to do? I think that could reasonably be interpreted in different ways. Either way, the guy seems to like music and has some instruments laying around. I don't think learning to play a song is incredibly needy or a sign of lacking self respect. I can assure you learning to play "hey ya" takes about as much effort as wiping your ass and taking a shower.
/r/seduction06/03/17 08:33 PM
1

Lol I hope you're not telling me to have self respect and stop being needy. OP literally asked for suggestions of easy songs to learn and I pointed him in the right direction.
/r/seduction06/03/17 06:46 PM
1

You can show her your friends once you've closed.
/r/seduction06/03/17 08:02 AM
1

Getting friendzoned multiple times isn't valuable experience. You've been there and done that. Now make a move with the next girl you get on a date. Kino, escalate physically slowly and gradually. You know what a date is right? Of course it's supposed to be 1on1.
/r/seduction06/03/17 06:39 AM
1

No, that's what a date is. The problem is that after a date without any physical escalation you're placing yourself solidly in the friendzone. If you invite a girl to hang out 1v1, treat it like a date unless your only intention is to be her friend.
/r/seduction06/03/17 06:11 AM
2

Learn a song dude. YouTube "guitar tutorial" and pick one.
/r/seduction06/03/17 06:09 AM
1

If you're gonna use dance as your game you're essentially doing kino. Either escalate or take her somewhere where you can talk. And don't escalate too much, or you'll end up being called a creep. Make out, get the number, and make up a reason to bounce and text her later for a date.
/r/seduction06/03/17 06:07 AM
1

She's interested. Consider this playing hard to get. She rejected who she thinks you are, not who you are. If you see her again, ask her out.
/r/seduction06/03/17 06:03 AM
1

Yeah but you (or at least most girls) probably won't explicitly initiate the event. The point here is to not take a passive role, but an active one. So, how would you suggest he as the guy brings up the idea of, "let's get out of here," in order to find out if she wants to or not? What's a tactful and flirty/attractive way to do that? I say just ask, but the guys asking questions here aren't that comfortable with their sociability yet. So any advice for OP? That would helpful to him.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:59 AM
1

It's only oneitis if you've been turned down or you're not actively taking steps to progress your relationship with her. Oneitis is essentially when you treat her like your girlfriend or wife in your mind when she's not. If you've had sex with her and you decide that you really like her and agree to a relationship with her, then you could be in love. If you haven't had sex with her or she hasn't expressed the desire for a relationship with you but you think you're in love, you're getting overly …
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:49 AM
1

I'm dying! Listen to this guy OP.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:45 AM
1

If you're honest with your emotions and desires, you'll be romantic at the appropriate times. I think that applies after or right before sex unless you have an established FWB relationship.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:44 AM
2

Yes eye contact, body language, and confidence are good. But that's not what you learned. Think about this, what if she didn't approach you? This post would have been very different. Good luck with this date, but next time remember, action is always better than inaction.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:42 AM
1

You could learn to act assertive, or you could learn to be assertive. To do the latter you should stand up straight, go to the gym and get big, play a sport, get good grades, go for a promotion, get a haircut and chase your dreams. Then people will look at you and see a masculine figure.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:38 AM
1

No, it's more like "always be progressing he relationship." The philosophy is that the girl will let you know once you've reached their comfort level they'll let you know. This is a "rule" because there's almost no quicker way to lose than to be passive and allow the fire to fizzle out.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:34 AM
1

It's a false fear. There's is no "faster" way. Shortcuts will ultimately lead to your failure. Just keep trucking on, keep learning, and don't hesitate to come here and ask for help. And don't lose yourself to this goal. Seduction is as much about self improvement as it is about talking to girls. The sooner you start chasing your dreams and doing things that help you achieve your goals and ambitions, the sooner you'll start being attractive.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:31 AM
7

Mark Manson's by a lot. Robert Greene's advice is for guys in fuzzy hats and shiny pants who fake their way into a failed marriage with a crippling divorce. Playing the game isn't actually about playing games. Stop trying to be someone else and start being toe best self.
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:23 AM
4

What? Keep kissing her dude. Stop giving a fuck about whether you're doing it right or not. Everyones gotta learn sometime and you learn by doing. So explore, experience, and enjoy it! Perfect is boring anyways. As for kissing tips; imagine you're trying to massage each other's lip. You can let her lead so you can learn. Close lips together, wait for her to open them (that's when the smack sound of the kiss happens), repeat with varying length in stage (closed lips or slightly open). You can swi…
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:16 AM
1

It's not A negative behavior it's YOUR negative behavior.
/r/seduction06/03/17 01:45 AM
4

You should do nothing just like you said. I guess what I really meant was cool story bro.
/r/seduction05/03/17 09:25 AM
1

You're just saying shit now lol. I'm concerned for the impressionable people that this community attracts and the people like you that give bad advice. Your advice is what makes the general population cringe at the idea of seduction. I'd like to be a positive influence on the the hopeless guys trying to make a change. I think you should brush up on your theory before giving out advice.
/r/seduction05/03/17 07:30 AM
1

"Hi, I'm UoAPUA."
/r/seduction05/03/17 07:26 AM
2

He's just gonna end up bringing them flowers and chocolates and reading them poetry. The other comments are the underlying mindset that needs to be corrected. Your advice is the result of that mindset shift.
/r/seduction05/03/17 07:25 AM
3

Sure in a way. In some ways no. I'll explain briefly. On one hand, the only way to get better at kissing is to practice. So yeah, just fucking do it. No blushing, no hesitation. Learn by trial, fake it till you make it. Perfect is boring anyways. On the other hand, confidence is earned not simply acquired by acting. Become someone worthy of being confident and you will be so. Are you getting good grades? Can you bench press 200 lbs? Do you have a good job, a nice haircut, a good sense of style? …
/r/seduction05/03/17 07:23 AM
1

It's your language dude, only you know the most comparable word to use. I for one don't need to use the word date. If you treat the hangout like a date then it's a date. If you treat it like friends hanging out, then that's what you'll always be.
/r/seduction05/03/17 07:18 AM
1

Save time for what? What is something quick? And how do you suggest getting a hot sexy woman into bed quickly without developing attractive characteristics? First off, there is no short term solution to seduction. You don't read a book and then magically get "something quick" whenever you feel like it. Being good enough to get a one night stand consistantly without sacrificing your standards takes years of practice. There is no "something quick" aside from paying for sex or fucking ugly chicks. …
/r/seduction05/03/17 07:04 AM
2

Absolutely not. Owning up to the stupidity is basically showing your cards. You'd might as well say, "hey I've been trying to get you to like me so I did that but then some guys on the internet told me that was a bad move and now I'm trying to correct it so you'll still have sex with me in the future." Just press forward. Guys who aren't needy aren't reactive.
/r/seduction05/03/17 06:55 AM
1

Tell her to kick rocks and meet a new girl Well duh. But someone who can readily do that isn't bringing girls coffee, changing plans for them, and talking to them for a month without asking them out.
/r/seduction05/03/17 06:53 AM
1

Yes, but those people who are masters of seduction don't need to pay for hookers or thousands of dollars to join a frat. It took them years of practice, failure, and self improvement. That's the difference between instant gratification and seduction. One is a temporary release and the other is a long term solution. That simple kiss for many guys means they've made it further than they ever have in their life. That's a step in the right direction along a long term journey. If they play their card…
/r/seduction05/03/17 06:32 AM
5

Your job. The strip club. Hooters. Places where people are paid to be nice and fake smile towards you. The gym when you're skinny as fuck and should be focusing on getting strong and the girl has headphones on. Anytime someone's on the phone. Generally anywhere that would require you to express neediness because you'd rather be gaming than doing something that might benefit your goals and ambitions like the library when you or other people have an exam. Not everyplace or everytime is a good time…
/r/seduction05/03/17 05:36 AM
2

Absolutely. A big noob mistake is creating a dichotomy in settings; one where you try to find girls to fuck and one where you don't. Of course there's places to not play the game, but that cute girl you made eye contact with at the grocery store? Go fucking talk to her!
/r/seduction05/03/17 03:38 AM
3

Comes off as trying too hard, like you're tryin to create the perfect line. Like you're playing games. Sometimes you have to stop acting like a pick up artist and start acting like a human. What kind of response is, "Hey! What were you thinking about?" Be real man! Be genuine! If you give a damn, then act like it! Put yourself in her shoes. This girl is thinking about you, thinking about getting back to you, hoping you'll still be there, and you send her a "hey!" after she opens up to you? Jesus…
/r/seduction05/03/17 03:18 AM
1

You don't act caring. Period. Why? Because you shouldn't care. Relationships, dating, love; the movies tell you that you see someone, you care about them, you confess your feelings, and you get the girl. This is not true. The truth is, there's a thousand girls who meet all of the requirements to make you have a puppy dog crush like you do with this girl. This girl isn't special. You shouldn't care about her anymore than that cute girl at the gym, that pretty girl in class, that flirty girl on Ti…
/r/seduction05/03/17 02:51 AM
15

I'll tell you one thing, it's not attractive to them that you cover for them. Stop doing that. They're adults, they can pay their own cover charges. It's 2017, most places take card. If they don't, bounce to the next venue that doesn't have a cover. As for your money problems, do you have a job? If not, you'll want to get one. If you need suggestions of good flexible places to work, I can give some. Also, how's the game going for you? If i spend $50 on a night out, I'm getting numbers. If I get …
/r/seduction05/03/17 02:36 AM
3

A real Don Juan
/r/seduction05/03/17 02:14 AM
2

Speak for yourself. If fucking hookers makes you happy then do you. That's not typically what people here are seeking. Life is a learning experience. Instant gratification isn't the goal for some people.
/r/seduction01/03/17 09:54 AM
1

Go up to group, "you guys look fun," talk. Go up to group, "hey nice shirt! Where'd you get it?" Talk. Go up to group, "how do you know so and so?" Talk. Repeat that all night or until you find some cool people to spend the night hanging out with. Also, why don't you want to hookup with your date? This is the perfect opportunity to do so.
/r/seduction28/02/17 12:48 PM
1

Put your dick in her mouth? If you're leading the interaction like you should be, you just up your dick in her face and she sucks. This is a normal part of foreplay. If she hates giving head, she'll tell you. If you want her to finish you with her mouth, make sure she's been satisfied, and then tell her. If she's not down, she'll tell you. Girls like a guy who's open about his desires in the bedroom, so take this as a learning opportunity to both get what you want and be more comfortable talking…
/r/seduction28/02/17 11:29 AM
2

Performing lines is how you end up faking your way into a doomed marriage, eventually sitting at your kitchen table reading the divorce papers with a bottle of whiskey wondering where it all went wrong. The people typically getting laid and having meaningful relationships don't really use lines. If your inner game is tight, and your outer game is tight, the interaction is naturally seductive.
/r/seduction28/02/17 11:25 AM
4

Real pimp Frat guy Lol paying thousands of dollars and sucking dicks/butt chugging for initiation just to have a place for the shallowest underage girls to grab some free alcohol is some real Don Juan shit.
/r/seduction28/02/17 11:20 AM
1

I'm not trying to make you feel bad. I'm just trying to illustrate why you shouldn't make statements or give advice around here. Let the successful people do that, and you sit back and learn. Women don't want to talk to a stranger about sex. Just because they're horny doesn't mean they want to talk to some needy weirdo. A hot girl can bag any Chad at the bar, she doesn't need to talk to some guy spending their weekend online trying to sext strangers. You don't talk about sex, but you can express…
/r/seduction28/02/17 05:42 AM
1

I'm sorry you don't fuck my man. I can barely keep up with the women I connect with, wanting to fuck at all hours of the day! Women are more sexual than you could ever imagine. Just because they don't fuck every sad chump and bitch boi around doesn't mean they don't want sex. You're gonna have a hard time pleasing them with that mindset. And you'll see a lot more success when you start embracing sexuality.
/r/seduction27/02/17 07:58 AM
1

That's not horniness, that's habit, porn addiction, and more difficultly getting laid!
/r/seduction27/02/17 05:32 AM
2

You have to show interest. You have to not act like a needy chump.
/r/seduction27/02/17 03:52 AM
1

Befriend the group. Invite them to do something fun. Isolate her, and get her number and maybe kiss close.
/r/seduction27/02/17 03:51 AM
1

If you're interested in a long term then you'd better have sex. Believe it or not, girls are hornier than you.
/r/seduction27/02/17 03:45 AM
1

I bet you'll see a lot more success once you stop using he word "hoes."
/r/seduction26/02/17 06:32 PM
2

There's no such thing as "toning." Gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time is a highly debated topic, but the consensus seems to be that it's very rare and impossible in most circumstances. You can either gain muscle or lose fat. The goal for most bodybuilders is to gain muscle, and then cut down some fat to make it visible. It's IMPOSSIBLE to gain muscle without eating at a calorie surplus. Muscle is mass, therefore you must gain weight to gain muscle. "Tone" is a marketing word to sell …
/r/seduction26/02/17 06:16 AM
2

You have to head over to r/fitness man for real. Or, no lie, 4chan.org/fit and read the sticky. The general idea is to focuse on compound lifts. Those are bench press, overhead press, bent rows, pull ups, squats, and deadlifts. These are compound lifts because they work a large range of related muscles. That's in opposition to isolation lifts, like curls, which work one muscle. Isolation lifts are good later when you need to focus on certain muscles, but compounds get you big and strong fast. Ea…
/r/seduction25/02/17 09:33 AM
1

You're not ugly or trash. You look like a normal dude. There's plenty of advice online and here on how to be more attractive and live an attractive lifestyle. There's hope.
/r/seduction25/02/17 04:29 AM
1

Girls comment weekly on my looks, but I've been lifting for a long time. You'll notice more looks and glances. You may even be approached. And your approaches should be more successful because the girl will be open to the idea of talking to a hot stranger. LOOKS MATTER. They do. Some things you can't control. Forget about those, accept them. But some things you can control. Your muscle mass is one of them. So it would behoove you to lift if you want to be really successful at the game.
/r/seduction25/02/17 03:46 AM
1

Getting a better body and working consistantly to make yourself better will get you more girls than any subreddit posts I promise.
/r/seduction25/02/17 03:28 AM
1

You're crazy dude. You need help.
/r/seduction25/02/17 03:08 AM
2

Well if what you say is true and you can make them like you/be sexually attracted to you then you've already done all the work. Next you invite to your house and have sex, because they want to so why would they not. If what you say isn't quite true, you have to read the entire contents of the sidebar to the right of your screen. -->
/r/seduction25/02/17 12:22 AM
1

And how do you think a girl would feel to know that you were using her to learn for just in case?
/r/seduction25/02/17 12:13 AM
1

Pick up and cold approaching aren't the same thing. Cold approaching is a topic within pick up. There's also social circle game which involves warm approaching. Stack your social circle with opportunities to be warmly introduced to new girls. Then you proceed with pick up. This is how most people naturally get girlfriends. The difference between us and normal guys is that we're not settling for the first homely girl who shows interest in us. We're using pick up to go after the creme of the crop.
/r/seduction25/02/17 12:00 AM
1

Why do something if you're uninterested?
/r/seduction24/02/17 11:57 PM
1

Many girls would rather grind on you for a few minutes then have a weirdo interupting their conversation. Did you say anything or just stand there between her and her friend like a weirdo?
/r/seduction24/02/17 11:56 PM
2

Why?
/r/seduction24/02/17 11:54 PM
1

You walk up and say hi dude.
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:54 PM
2

Negging. It works but at the cost of you actually finding quality girl.
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:52 PM
2

He was being funny, as was I. But in all seriousness, that's not lifting. Also in all seriousness, hitting he gym, doing barbell routine, and gaining ten pounds of muscle will get you laid more than pheromones, fuzzy hats, and negging combined.
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:54 AM
1

Surely if she wasn't attracted to me she wouldn't have even come back to the bar, let alone walked back to her place with me.. That's spot on, and don't call me Shirley. This is just one girl man. Not every girl fits into the rules. Everyone's different. If anything, the girls who don't play by the rules get me the most excited. If you like her, try again. This is a great chance to hone your game. But clearly she wants something more than a hookup, so I'd only pursue if you're really interested.…
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:56 AM
4

Don't say needy shit like that.
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:53 AM
3

Right on point man. Some guys talk about getting confidence. You don't just obtain confidence, you earn it. You become confident by becoming someone with reasons to be confident. If you're a confident shut in with a fedora, a beer belly, and a minimum wage job, you're performing. You will be found out. Improving yourself is the fastest way to get girls, simple as that.
/r/seduction23/02/17 11:23 PM
10

The answer is not "it depends." The answer is yes. Unless you're a rich movie star with a fat cock and an eccentric personality, you'd better not expect to be fat and getting attention form 8, 9, and 10s.
/r/seduction23/02/17 08:52 PM
1

Just you man.
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:17 PM
1

Hahah yes in a way. Direct game and cold approaches in "innapropriate" places requires a certain standard of aesthetic and a lot of confidence to pull off. A weird looking dude saying, "where you ladies headed," on the street is not a turn on lol. They're gonna laugh at you as they walk away. Indirect game in an "appropriate" place like a party, club, or social and social game is a way better option for below average looking guys, in my opinion.
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:05 PM
1

Nope not really! I'd forget about her for a week. Try to talk to some girls, get some numbers. If she initiates contact within that week, take that opportunity to set up a date. If not, you can take one more shot and text her to try and set up a date. If she doesn't respond or says no, you should move on.
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:02 PM
1

It's called your last chance to step up brah
/r/seduction23/02/17 07:01 AM
1

"How does being better looking change things?"
/r/seduction23/02/17 07:00 AM
1

"I look like a pipe cleaner. Will improving myself help me succeed with the ladies?" What the fuck do you think?
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:59 AM
1

Super cringey
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:57 AM
1

This guy doesn't fuck.
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:51 AM
2

"You doing kegals? Can I get a set?"
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:49 AM
1

Do you even lift brah?
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:47 AM
1

Gaming girls? I'm trying to get jacked breh
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:41 AM
2

Probably not. But you're not giving us the whole picture. I have no idea what you're relationship with this girl is. Why are you seeing her? Class? It actually doesn't matter. No, just no. Move on.
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:39 AM
0

"Significant" No. Only your personality and look will do that. So are you a sick cunt yet or what?
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:36 AM
2

I keep walking because my friends and I are having a blast and I'm not worried about girls on the walk from venue to venue. But if you insist, you just listed a bunch of stuff. Pick one and do it. If you're not hot though they're gonna think you're creepy.
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:34 AM
2

Are you sure? I really don't think so. Her saying, "okay I don't want to keep kissing," is the response. Her saying that wouldn't make any sense. She said she didn't want to have sex on the first date. Idk maybe, the post is gone now.
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:25 AM
7

Dude. Going to a movie just you and a girl is a date. How long have you known her? It's possible that you're friendzoned if you've been her friend for a long time. In that case, it doesnt matter when you tell her. Just do it and see what happens. If that's not the case, treat this like a date. You already fucked up making it a movie since you can't talk and flirt during a movie. Hopefully you have time to talk before the movie. You need to physically escalate BEFORE the movie starts. Hug her to …
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:57 AM
2

Invite them all out to a party. Take that opportunity flirt with other girls, and then to isolate her and work your game. This is about as indirect as you can get. If you get rejected, of course she'll tell her friends. So what? You're not a needy guy who was gonna ask them all out one after the other anyways, right? Having a group of girls as friends is a great way to boost your social proof, so whatever you do, don't make yourself the weirdo of the bunch. Having a crush on this girl isn't weir…
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:50 AM
1

LMR is only a thing if a girl is actually intending to have sex with you. The point is not to convince her to have sex with you, it's just to pass a couple of shit tests she may throw your way. Not wanting to have sex on a first date is not a shit test. Despite the stories anyone from Don Juan to Dennis Reynolds may be posting here, it's atypical for a girl to fuck you on the first date. She may think you're hot, she may think you're sexy, she may be wet and horny, but she also has no idea what …
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:42 AM
4

Some girls LOVE chest hair. And don't shave your arm hair. You're not Michael Phelps. Body hair has never stopped me from getting laid. Always trim the pubes though.
/r/seduction22/02/17 06:39 AM
1

Why would you respond jokingly with something false when I gave you a true and serious anecdote? Just today I saw the hottest girl at gym walk out holding hands with a bald fatty. He lifted a lot of weights and probably acts like a fucking man most of the time, so I'm not that surprised he gets laid. Once again, you don't get laid. If you were an expert on the subject, your opinions might matter. Not only are your opinions without credibility, but they're wrong. Maybe if you listened every once …
/r/seduction21/02/17 07:42 AM
1

Sure but women don't base their aesthetic standards on your opinions. All you have to do is walk around a university campus for 5 minutes to see dozens of ugly dudes walking around with beautiful women. Why do you even post here? Clearly you don't laid. Seems like you're an ugly dude with a chip on your shoulder.
/r/seduction20/02/17 10:29 PM
1

WILL is a strong guarantee that you can't make. If a woman WILL pursue someone she's interested in (that's obviously NOT always the case), then so will I.
/r/seduction20/02/17 08:35 AM
0

Sorry to call you out then! Someone definitely didn't like any of these responses lol
/r/seduction19/02/17 11:55 PM
1

in order to possibly trick, manipulate women into bed Absolutely not. It's as much about manipulation as searching, "first date tips," on Google is. Learning to walk with good posture, to smile, to make eye contact; believe it or not, these are not things everyone is capable of. Everybody has had a different upbringing, and many men's nurture has lead them to being incapable of proper communication. Everyone can't be a naturally attractive and social butterfly who tends to hit it off with everyo…
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:32 PM
1

Well, how would you know if that cute girl in the coffee shop thinks you're cute or not if you don't go find out? Cold approaching is about overcoming social anxiety and opening the dating pool. A subset of those women will actually find you attractive and be receptive to your approach, but you would never know unless you tried. We're not trying to win them over, we're trying to not let opportunities walk right by us. Not interested? That's fine. Interested? Good thing we said hi then.
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:23 PM
1

Nobody cares if you're a good dancer or not. Just like nobody cares if you're a good bowler or a wine conisseur. It's not expected. Those girls don't know how to dance either, but they know that if they shake their ass to the beat nobody will care. Move your hips to the beat and feel the vibes is all that matters. You're not gonna win the girl over with you sick moves, you're gonna win over her with your game. If dancing is something you want to pursue then do it. That's on you.
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:18 PM
1

I would stop doing kegals and edging. These are helpful for people in a good state of mind. They're hurtful to you. The last thing you need to do is spend a significant part of the day thinking about your dick. This is a psychological issue. Try letting her give you a blowjob and putting the condom on for you.
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:13 PM
1

Shave your head. Hit the gym and get yolked.
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:10 PM
2

Keep in mind, hot girls sometimes have hot friends. Accepting your place in the friendzone is a great way to expand a social circle and build social proof. If you genuinely like the person as a friend of course.
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:09 PM
1

You're not really supposed to use pickup tactics on someone you've know for 15 years. She already has a framework in her mind about y'alls relationship. If you want something more, you'd be better off just being honest with her. You're gonna creep her out by acting like someone different than who she's come to know and like.
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:06 PM
2

Why does that make it difficult? There's lots of intricacies to seduction. One if them is being an attractive male through your actions. If you can't talk to a dude and his girlfriend in a friendly way, it's gonna be really fucking hard to talk to a girl you think is really hot. If anything, this situation should be easier, because now there's a bunch of people to bounce conversation topics around. Eventually you'll want to isolate the girl, but worry about befriending the group first. If you wi…
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:04 PM
1

Dope I'm gonna try this with my girlfriend.
/r/seduction19/02/17 08:00 PM
1

I disagree that dating or not daing a certain race is entitlement. Oh don't need any logical reason for dating or not dating whoever you're attracted to. You don't go around telling people in this sub to settle do you? Then why should any woman?
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:57 PM
1

I have some advice. This may sound weird, but embrace the friendzone. Most of the time when you get friendzoned, you don't actually become friends with the girl. You just move on right? No sense in wasting time? Well, for particularly hot girls that friendzone you, actually put in the time and effort to be their friend. You know who you meet in this girls friendzone? Other hot girls! And there's no quicker way to build social proof at a club, party, or social then to walk in with a bunch of hot …
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:54 PM
1

We can't exactly help you with every step in a single reply. What you should do is check out the sidebar to the right and read a book called "Models" by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:48 PM
6

Yeah, I'm not an asshole who kicks people to the curb after a night of drinks and sex.
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:47 PM
2

This. Canned material is for performers who wear fuzzy hats and shiny leather pants.
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:46 PM
3

Simple. Don't do it through text. Do it in person like someone who actually gets laid. She already invited you to hangout. Now treat that as a date.
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:43 PM
1

No because it's bullshit.
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:41 PM
3

The PUA who gets laid etablishes rapport, engages in witty conversation, and gets a number. All of them. These aren't two seperate groups. After getting the number you set up a date. After setting up a date, you go on that date and escalate. You do that on as many dates as it takes to make it to the bedroom. Maybe post your sticking point for a more personalized response.
/r/seduction19/02/17 07:34 PM
1

The mall is a good place for someone your age, if you live in a town with a mall that lots of people go to.
/r/seduction18/02/17 08:29 PM
5

Here's something you might not have considered. What are these girls going to think when they realize that you're gaming everybody? It seems like your class is small. And a bus is a physically small location. If you talk to one girl one day and another the next, they will notice. Then you'll be a desperate creepy dude, not a Don Juan. You're in a great position to practice inner game and natural game, but I'd avoid using canned material and any outer game tricks you may have read up on in a sett…
/r/seduction17/02/17 02:52 AM
1

There's no rules for this. It's a decision between you and her. But why would anyone want to drive an hour to hang out with someone they barely no? I wouldn't, there's plenty of hot girls closer than that.
/r/seduction17/02/17 02:48 AM
2

Very few people go to the club to show off their "dancing skills." There may be a few actual dancers, but mostly it's just a bunch of drunk people feeing the vibes and having fun. If talking to a girl on the street is about game then the dance floor is about game too. We can't control our height or our looks (to an extent). You can only control your game. So stop worrying about stuff like that. If your game is tight, the setting won't matter.
/r/seduction17/02/17 02:46 AM
1

Sounds like you're naking excuses to not pursue them. Either you fail and get friendzoned and get exactly what you want, or you succeed and get laid. What's the deal?
/r/seduction17/02/17 02:43 AM
3

There's a Tinder thread on the front page of r/Seduction everyday about how someone is using it successfully. I can't imagine I have anything new to add, but to say it's a waste of time and you should probably delete it is like a student who says his class sucks because he can't pass but he never bothered to open the book.
/r/seduction17/02/17 02:41 AM
1

You shouldn't talk medical advice unless you're certain you know what you're talking about man. Cold sores are almost always caused by herpes simplex virus. And although pink eye can be caused by chlamydia, it's almost always not.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:58 AM
2

People who are successful with relationship realize that THEY ARE THE CATCH. Not the girls they talk to. So, are you a catch? A kind of chubby catch? No. Improve yourself until you can look in the mirror and think, "how could anyone NOT want to date me?" Then, you treat the game just like you would with a random hookup. The only difference is you stick around Lin enough for the girl to ask whatsup.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:54 AM
1

You thought wrong. Take people's advice here without the "buts," we get laid more than you.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:51 AM
1

You shouldn't have said, "friend??" You showed that this bothered you and that you wanted more. You revealed your cards before the game really began. At best she was your acquaintance, she was giving you way more credit calling you a friend than you actually wanted. You should've rolled with it. You shouldn't have said, "No you're gonna go with me." That's not alpha and that's not being a leader. That was douchey and cringey. So was the, "Not yet," comment. It was all needy. Try having a regular…
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:49 AM
2

PLEEEEASE don't bring a girl flowers to a date EVER. Only do this for your girlfriend, if that's the kind of girl she is and only on occasion.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:44 AM
3

I don't always bring flowers to a first date, but when I do, I end up masturbating alone wondering why I got friendzoned.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:44 AM
1

These girls are not into you and don't think you're attractive. They want you to leave them alone and they're still trying to wonder why you would walk up to them and say something weird. What you should do is move on to someone who is responsive. Also, can you give us an example of your opener?
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:42 AM
2

First off, don't use movies as evidence of what you can expect in real life. Second off, no, it's very unlikely that you'll be assaulted if you're not doing something overtly aggressive; like approaching girls next to their boyfriends. It will happen to a rare minority of men who get unlucky, but most people are non confrontational, most people aren't monsters, and you won't succeed with most women in relationships long enough to run into their boyfriends. Just keep doing you.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:39 AM
3

You're not taking it too far but you're doing it wrong. We approach like that to overcome approach anxiety. You've done that. Now show some sincerity. Try having a conversation that last longer than 2 minutes. Have some relationships, short or long. It's time to take it a step further. If you're not remembering their names and getting numbers afterwards, sit down and were down your experience and come up with some ways to improve the next interaction. Get some numbers, and go in some dates. Get …
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:35 AM
0

Awkward guys are frequently with hot women because they eminate testosterone. Being awkward is the opposite of that. Luckily, that's the part you can work on. Seduction isn't about the tricks you do to make women like you. It's about becoming attractive. That means you have to put in the time to become more socially adept. Find some resources and practices online and follow through.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:31 AM
2

Your title and story are incongruent. Also, Re you new to seduction? If so, you need to check out the sidebar. Opening girls is a good start. Keep doing that everywhere and just practice. But yes, what you described would be a basic plan. It's all the stuff in between that takes practice.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:28 AM
2

Honestly a must read and the first read for a newbie.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:26 AM
1

Y'all are doing it wrong.
/r/seduction16/02/17 08:24 AM
6

How's your inner game in your opinion? Only working on outer game leads to performing, and that can be tiring. This is the mistake all of the old lonely gurus used to make, and it sounds like what you're doing. When your inner game is tight, talking to girls is natural and fun, not a chore.
/r/seduction16/02/17 06:02 AM
1

Step 1: Become the catch - Complete! Good job bro. On to Step 2: Outer Game. For those that are new here, take this as a lesson. You can't skip inner game. It can be a long grueling process, but it's the most important part.
/r/seduction16/02/17 06:00 AM
1

Lol that was incredibly aggressive and really showed a poor side of you man. I frequent seduction and have PUA in my username. I don't need a dick measuring contest about how many girls we've had sex with, but you'd be making a pretty weird assumption in thinking I'm so far beneath you when it comes to getting laid. I don't doubt you get laid, I don't think you have any reason to lie, but the only way you've fucked more people this year then I have in my entire life is if you're a porn star. It'…
/r/seduction16/02/17 04:51 AM
1

Not really. There's a dead locator in the sidebar. It's old as fuck, but I think a few of the guys who posted there are still active. It's worth a shot.
/r/seduction15/02/17 11:33 PM
1

I'm sorry but you're ignorant of the subject and trying to talk like an expert. Might as well go to a panel of basketball players and try to correct their free throws. Believe or not, people who succeed in relationships carry themselves in similar ways. Telling someone to," just act natural," is not helpful advice on how to be successful with their love lives. If you want to criticize, then at least be informed. Go check out the sidebar and become an expert in this material. Then come back and t…
/r/seduction15/02/17 11:28 PM
2

Attractive women are playing on easy mode. The vast majority of men wish an attractive woman would approach them. This is the small community of men that understand how unlikely that is to happen and that we have to take matters into our own hands. So, you should just say, "hi (:." Odds are you'll do just fine.
/r/seduction15/02/17 11:17 PM
1

No, but good luck getting a girl to bed without "chemistry." You're basically asking if you can get a lukewarm girl from an average date to have sex with you. Sure if she's horny/desperate enough, but the sex will be lukewarm and average as well. And the relationship isn't going to progress from there. Seduction is in a way about ensuring that there's "chemistry" between you and a girl you're gaming. In my opinion, if there's no chemistry, you're wasting your time. Not because you won't have sex…
/r/seduction15/02/17 11:14 PM
1

Breh! I tried this months ago and couldn't get a single response! I think Tucson is dead as far as PUAs go. On the bright side, that means the playground is ready to be broken in. I'd love to say yes, but I'm in a LTR now. Good luck man
/r/seduction15/02/17 11:10 PM
1

Two points to help you succeed in the future: 1) Yes you fucked up big time. You could have pulled it off. When she agreed to go the concert, you should have immediately grabbed her number, said bye, and then left. Instead you came off as needy and awkward. No girl who wants your dick tells you to look up her email. 2)Don't be scared about the friendzone. Ever heard the phrase, "Keep a few bad bitches in my circle?" The friendzone is a place where a hot girl who rejected you introduces you to he…
/r/seduction15/02/17 11:06 PM
1

Or you should embrace your pride and ambition and start taking action to secure your dreams. I hope you get out of this self pity party my man.
/r/seduction14/02/17 05:59 PM
4

But, are they good looking?
/r/seduction14/02/17 03:12 PM
1

Try asking out dudes
/r/seduction14/02/17 03:09 PM
1

Gotten drunk with a girl and hooked up? Of course. But you're essentially saying, "Want some fuck?" You're gonna get some very polarized reactions. The girls who say yes will probably be down for anything. But what about the girls that say no? Is this idea really worth sacrificing those opportunities? What's wrong with going out and getting a few drink at a public place? In the long run you're not gonna want to be the type of guy that avoids going out in favor of staying in the comfort of your h…
/r/seduction14/02/17 02:13 PM
1

Tinder for uglies.
/r/seduction14/02/17 01:28 PM
1

You died inside over some girl who probably barely knows you exist? You don't know a single thing about this girl. She's probably getting smashed by a different guy every week for all you know. You have what we call Oneitis, a debilitating disease that slowly strips you of your manhood. Talk to her, ask her out, and get your answer. If she's taken or doesn't want to, move your ass on to the next one. Life isn't like the rom coms you've watched too much of. You're not gonna get anywhere by having…
/r/seduction14/02/17 01:25 PM
3

Well are you working on it?
/r/seduction14/02/17 01:20 PM
1

Try asking her on a date instead. Give a couple of days, don't text her unless she texts you first. Then say whatsup, make some brief small talk, ask if she wants to do whatever date this weekend.
/r/seduction07/02/17 11:40 PM
1

As much as you need to message her to get her on a date. That should be sooner rather than later!
/r/seduction07/02/17 02:58 PM
1

You might have. You very well might have. But you won't know until you try. It's not awkward if it's gradual. Just because you've done those things doesn't mean you skip them. Next time you hang out, you go through all the steps again. If she's letting you hold her hand while you look into her eyes, then she'll probably let you kiss her. If you get rejected, that's fine too. Accept he rejection with grace and find a nice cozy place in the friendzone. That's the place where you get to meet all of…
/r/seduction07/02/17 02:35 PM
0

You know how they say you never get a second chance at a first imoresssion? Well it's true. You've already established a relationship with these girls. They do not want to fuck you, so stop trying to game them. There's something you need to know about Seddit. Seduction is not about getting whatever girl you want, it's about exposing and capitalizing on opportunities. The girls you've made friends with, those are not the girls you seduce. The girls you'll be meeting, those are the ones you seduce…
/r/seduction07/02/17 02:00 PM
1

Yeah, man up. You're showing yourself into the friendzone. Kiss her or lose her, simple as that. Hang out with her, hug her, stare into her eyes, hold her hand, and kiss her.
/r/seduction07/02/17 01:56 PM
3

You should go to a party instead and don't fuck up your friend group.
/r/seduction07/02/17 12:59 PM
1

No you come off as needy. Approaching a girl isn't supposed to be needy, it's selfish. You're entertaining yourself. She might be boring and you'll next her. She might have something to offer so you keep her around. The interaction is on your terms. You're vetting girls to see if there worth your time, yo shouldn't be trying to impress anyone. Having a good conversation with someone is not gettin friendzoned. Regardless, you didn't kino effectively if at all, so you were following the not gettin…
/r/seduction07/02/17 11:25 AM
2

Have you read anything about seduction? We can't teach you how to pick up in a comment. You open, you talk, flirt, kino, create attraction, build rapport, demonstrate value, kino, and close not necessarily in that order. If you practice pick up, it's just like doing it anywhere else at any other time, except you have to speed it up a little. If you don't practice pick up, you'd better pick up a book and start reading. The biggest advice I think I can give is make sure you kino. If you manage to …
/r/seduction07/02/17 11:17 AM
1

It's because that guy doesn't give a fuck. How old is this girl? You think she wants to get married? You think she wants to have a guy bring her flowers and read her poems and tell her how much he misses her? She has her own life. She has hopes and dreams, she's had goals, accomplishments, and failures. She doesn't give a fuck about anyone at that club, including you and that Malaysian guy. So you come up acting like she's the best thing since sliced bread. WOAH BUDDY SLOW DOWN! The only thing s…
/r/seduction07/02/17 11:10 AM
70

Right before you look away, don't do that.
/r/seduction06/02/17 05:30 AM
1

Well, did you read Models yet?
/r/seduction02/02/17 02:55 AM
4

Next her. She's not special. You should have 2 or 3 numbers to text at any given time. Text her, try to set up a date, and if you don't get a reply, move on. You can always try again in a week or so.
/r/seduction30/01/17 09:33 PM
11

This sounds like suicide to me. I can't imagine a super hot girl receiving texts from all her orbiters responding in a meaningful way to a meme.
/r/seduction30/01/17 09:31 PM
1

Being rich won't change that. Luckily you've come to a good place. Seduction isn't just about getting laid. Latin down the framework that allows you to get laid is important. The people who succeed here are the people who are tired of doing nothing and are willing to change. So use the resources here and make changes. Like I said, time isn't going to make you better. Only concious effort will do that.
/r/seduction30/01/17 09:26 PM
1

They wouldn't be laughing at you when you kicked their asses.
/r/seduction27/01/17 09:13 AM
1

Hot guys match with hot girls breh
/r/seduction27/01/17 09:12 AM
1

Move
/r/seduction27/01/17 09:09 AM
3

Gay
/r/seduction27/01/17 09:07 AM
3

If she's taken then you didn't pick her up. If she doesn't want anything serious, that means she doesn't want anything serious with YOU. Try becoming and attractive male. That means no more dipping your toes in. Commit. Pro tip: Seduction is not about cold approaches. That's not what makes you a Don Juan. Click the links on the sidebar to find out more.
/r/seduction27/01/17 09:04 AM
3

Guys in the friendzone don't kiss the girl when they're watching movies and cuddling. She doesn't need to put you in the friend zone. Congrats buddy, you showed yourself right in.
/r/seduction27/01/17 09:01 AM
-5

Lol wow, you you think people without money only sleep with ugly trash women? I'm from a lower-middle class family (fairly good looking) and I fuck models. You won't be fucking those desirable women ever with a mindset like yours. You need to get your head straight breh.
/r/seduction27/01/17 06:26 AM
178

Stop sitting on your ass waiting for life to get better. Life will never get better. Life is entirely what you make of it. If you're content with being unhappy at 22 because you think it's gonna turn around at 30, you're gonna be disappointed. Don't settle for later, take advantage of now.
/r/seduction27/01/17 02:36 AM
2

Chase your dreams. The second your identity become entirely dependent on her you've lost her. Keep becoming better and accomplishing your goals. Do that, and everytime she looks at you she'll see an 11/10.
/r/seduction24/01/17 01:07 AM
1

She doesn't give a fuck if you don't like loud noises, drinking, and dancing. She does like that stuff. And she likes you. So accompany her. Also, acquire a taste for nights out. It doesn't have to be bars and clubs. See a movie. Go to a concert. Go on a midnight nature walk and bust out a blanket and a bottle of wine. Be creative. Laying in your bed watching Netflix gets boring fast. Constantly inviting girls for nights in is a great way to get cucked.
/r/seduction24/01/17 01:04 AM
1

One more thing...accept your place in the friendzone graciously. The friendzone is a place where the hot chick who turned us down introduces us to her hot friends.
/r/seduction24/01/17 12:49 AM
4

Mark Manson emphasizes two concepts in his book "Models," non-neediness and vulnerability. Everyone always remembers non-neediness, but forgets about vulnerability. This is your girlfriend dude. If you can't open up to her and tell her how you feel, then who can you tell? Next time you're kissing, take a second to look her in the eyes. Stare, and don't break eye contact for several moments. She may ask, "What?" She may just stare back. But after several moments say, "I'm really glad I met you." …
/r/seduction24/01/17 12:41 AM
1

I'm pretty sure Mark Manson read "No More Mr. Nice Guy." I've read both and both are good. "Models" seems to be the more up to date and all inclusive book though. I noticed a lot of allusions to "No More Mr. Nice Guy" with all of the message and less of the fluff. I highly recommend "Models."
/r/seduction24/01/17 12:36 AM
1

You heard wrong! The French are notorious for being upfront and having mistresses. Embrace your heritage and make moves!
/r/seduction23/01/17 11:57 PM
1

Hahah I know they're hard to come by but so are good looking smart guys. I would try building a bigger social circle. Friend zone some of these girls or let them friendzone you. Then get invited to hang outs besides parties like dinner, brunch, hikes, kick backs, or whatever. You'll get to meet more of their friends and maybe stumble upon some of their more low key sorority sisters.
/r/seduction23/01/17 11:56 PM
3

Step 1 - Be the prize. Seduction is about getting laid, but ironically, thinking about getting laid all the time does not get you laid. Being a stud who works on his physical appearance, health, career, education, and hobbies gets you laid. Remember, you're not chasing a prize, you are the prize. If you don't feel like a prize, it's probably because you haven't been acting like one. Start chasing your dreams and being the best you that you can be. Then you'll feel like a prize. Step 2 - Don't be…
/r/seduction23/01/17 10:09 PM
1

Easy mode if you're an attractive woman. You just ask him to hang out and do something casual (coffee, drinks, lunch, etc). My advice to a man would be don't do it unless she is clearly into you. I think it's more common for a guy to fuck up a work environment by creepily hitting on a colleague. So I think you should definitely make the first moves and make your interest very clear. Approach his work space and have a short conversation frequently. Try to join him for lunch or invite him to join …
/r/seduction23/01/17 09:43 PM
3

All of those times you've been seeing each other, those are called dates. You're interested in her, she's interested in you, and you got together to spend time with each other. That's a date. So you didn't kiss her, flirt, or touch her in any way? Then those were bad dates. She's probably wondering why you haven't made any moves and she's probably about ready to move on. DO NOT start spilling your feelings to her. It's like making a movie, SHOW DONT TELL. if you're truly attracted to her and her…
/r/seduction23/01/17 09:37 PM
1

http://nullxface.com/gi0/Revelation.pdf It's a long read but it's where I started. It's essentially the most updated and natural version of The Mystery Method. You could just check out the section on Group Theory if you don't want to read the whole thing.
/r/seduction23/01/17 09:26 PM
1

I'm not the person to ask honesty. I'm really good at expanding my social circle and then new single girls tend buzz around me until I make a move or swat them away. I rarely cold approach anymore. You could check out The Mystery Method for some old theory. But you should burn it shortly after and focus on being more natural. I've become a pretty open and social guy with hobbies and interests over the last few years, so having a conversation with a group of people isn't really that hard. That's …
/r/seduction23/01/17 09:08 PM
1

Many guys find success with indirect game.
/r/seduction23/01/17 09:02 PM
2

Depends on your goals. I'd imagine many guys here enjoy taking home a sweaty wasted girl who's only spoken words of the night were, "more fireball!"
/r/seduction23/01/17 09:00 PM
2

These girls aren't hooking up with you because your game is tight my man. They do it because they're experiencing freedom and adventure and you're a cool pit stop along their journey. This is just the lifestyle of a young srat star. You could try older sorority girls. I've found that by their senior year, these girls are pretty much over the douche bags that aren't really maturing at the same rate as them. Otherwise, there has to be hot girls outside of Greek life. There's always hot girls not i…
/r/seduction23/01/17 08:57 PM
2

I think needing to be drunk to muster the courage to talk to a girl is creepy and needing to be drunk to have fun is lame.
/r/seduction23/01/17 08:51 PM
1

Hi, I'm rigbed.
/r/seduction23/01/17 08:49 PM
1

Don't be needy.
/r/seduction23/01/17 08:45 PM
7

This is a classic scenario of trying to have your cake and eat it too. This is the narcissists game. Stack the cards up in my favor and disregard the feelings of others in the process. Do you consider yourself a narcissist? Probably not. So try to empathize a little bit. Would you appreciate someone putting you on the back burner so they can go fuck around, but keeping you warm enough so that they could come back to you at any second? Fuck no. Obviously not, that would be a pretty beta situation…
/r/seduction23/01/17 08:43 PM
1

You have no fucking clue what love is if you've never been in a relationship. You don't know anything about this girl. You've never laid in bed with her while she spilled her deepest insecurities. You don't know the events that have shaped her. You haven't stared at each other for hours and memorized each other's faces. You've idealized this girl. You've created a character that you could love, but this character is nothing like what this girl is truly like deep down. You think you're in love BE…
/r/seduction23/01/17 08:31 PM
1

As a player. When orbiters start making moves, you're reputation is creep.
/r/seduction16/01/17 04:53 PM
3

If you can cuddle on the couch and touch her pussy then you're not in the friendzone. You don't escape from the friendzone. You do the things you said the moment you manage to get to a girls place or she decides to come to yours, probably after some previous escalation. Trying this on someone you've been orbiting for 2 months with no escalation is a good way to get a reputation in your social circle.
/r/seduction13/01/17 10:30 PM
1

Have a life 100%. If you're cold approaching without a social circle/hobbies/improving yourself, you're faking it. You'll con yourself straight into a heartbreak or failed marriage. Part of having a life is going out and having fun. You can take these opportunities to cold approach. But if you sacrifice time with friends, hobbies, work, school, or anything else in exchange for time to go approach girls on the street, you're not utilizing our limited time effectively.
/r/seduction13/01/17 10:28 PM
1

Not enough info. What is touching and kissing to you? Why aren't you in your room to begin with? What does seeing someone mean to you? How often do you have sex? When my girlfriend comes over we go to me room. We're already in bed when I start touching her. She's soaking wet by the time I'm done touching her, she's too horny to turn down the opportunity for sex. If your girl isn't soaking the. You're not done kissing and touching. And if she's soaking and still doesn't want to have sex, somethin…
/r/seduction11/01/17 04:30 PM
0

"I think she'd be a nice person to have in my social circle." Why? Based on what? Not only do you have oneitis but you've also friendzoned yourself already. And you say you don't want to approach her with lines but you come here looking for lines? If you don't want to seem like some douche using canned lines then get off the internet and go fucking talk to her. You're in the process of carefully crafting a line right now, it doesn't matter whether it's to fuck her or make her your friend. There …
/r/seduction11/01/17 04:26 PM
1

You don't know what you did wrong?! Here's a secret, if you're in her bed or vice versa, she's ready for you to fuck her. Sooooo, put your hand between her legs and make moves! Escalate escalate escalate until you have sex or she says or does something to indicate she doesn't want to.
/r/seduction10/01/17 07:21 PM
1

What happens afterwards? Do you just part ways or something? Post sex is usually like a whole other date for me. We spend hours laying around talking and fucking.
/r/seduction10/01/17 07:19 PM
1

You don't say gotcha with your words! You do it with your grin.
/r/seduction10/01/17 07:21 AM
2

It's not. You've won this round of the game. Enjoy it. There's no more reframing at this point. Just don't be needy, and be your best self. You don't want to game your way around the trials of a relationship. An LTR is a chance for you to truly be yourself and have a connection that goes beyond the superficialities of dating. We play the game because it's a must to be successful in the world of dating. A relationship is about something deeper. You have an understanding of the concept of non need…
/r/seduction10/01/17 03:13 AM
2

Lol look at all these tips and tricks. Here's one more. Tell the truth. Don Juan doesn't lie to make girls like him. Don't be afraid of who you are, and don't try to hide who you are over a girl.
/r/seduction10/01/17 03:10 AM
2

A method to locate a wingman near you. There's an old link on the sidebar, but it's all dried up.
/r/seduction10/01/17 03:09 AM
1

Stopped trying to convince girls to like me and started trying to be the best me that I could be. Now girls won't stay away. I'm not even comfortable cold approaching most of the time. They just swarm around me like nats around a lamp.
/r/seduction10/01/17 03:07 AM
12

Breh....I hope you know what to do next time!
/r/seduction10/01/17 02:59 AM
3

Text her and ask her to hang out with you and your social circle. "Hey some friends and I are gonna hit up the bars later, you and your friends and /or boyfriend wanna join?" If you're lucky she'll say yes. If you can be a cool friend, she'll start to invite you places.
/r/seduction10/01/17 02:58 AM
1

Well you already fucked up by being the quiet dude who sits next to her and is probably nervous. Next class, ask her if she did the reading/homework/project/survey (some assignment that isn't actually due). She'll freak out and then show her a shit eating grin that says, "gotcha!" There's your opener. Don't talk during the lecture. You're there to learn. You're not some desperate chump who sacrifices his grades for a girl. At the end of class, ask her to be your study partner or to start a study…
/r/seduction10/01/17 02:55 AM
20

4 dates with follow ups and you didn't smash? Forget about Tinder, that's the least of your worries. Why are you failing to sleep with any of these girls?
/r/seduction10/01/17 02:52 AM
3

The second you start sacrificing your dreams for a woman, you've lost. The movies tell you that it's romantic. It's not, it's needy. a woman should not be the source of your happiness. Any woman placed in this position will eventually begin to feel smothered under the pressure of having to both make you and herself happy. That's too much for anyone to bear. Pursue your dreams. If this girl wants to go along for the ride, that's awesome. If not, there will be plenty of other girls chasing after a…
/r/seduction10/01/17 02:50 AM
1

Then why'd you make a post here? You're already in an exclusive relationship. You've closed the deal. Seduction isn't about making girls love you. And you shouldn't be TRYING to make anyone love you ether. Just keep being your best self.
/r/seduction09/01/17 07:47 PM
4

Tinder and that's it. Girls on POF and OkC are not quality girls. The hot ones tend to be attention seekers, and the not hot ones....yeah. Tinder has more quality girls because Tinder is more casual. You don't spend an hour answerin questions and writing a description of yourself and your dream date and all that bullshit. It's quick, it's easy, and it's all based on attraction. You're just much more likely to get responses from someone who's chosen you as a match. This also limits how many the g…
/r/seduction09/01/17 06:34 PM
1

I sure hope by 4 months you mean you've been dating and having sex for that long. If so, the only thing you need to do is ask her to be exclusive/official with you. She'll either break it off or say yes, either way you're better off.
/r/seduction09/01/17 06:30 PM
3

"Been seeing for like 4 months." That had better mean they've had sex by now.
/r/seduction09/01/17 06:28 PM
3

I can think of three instances in which you should talk about this. One, if a girl wants to be exclusive she'll ask you. You take that opportunity to be honest. If you want that too, then tell her. "I've been dating a few people, but I'm willing to be exclusive from now on." If you don't want that, also be honest and tell her that. Two, she doesn't bring it up, but you want to be exclusive. Be honest about that too. Tell her, see what she has to say. Three, you know it's time to f close, you don…
/r/seduction09/01/17 03:02 PM
6

Simple fix, stop having conversations over text. Once you get their number the game is not over. You didn't win, you didn't score. The next step is to get a date. That's the highest priority. So text them, make some small talk, make some jokes, witty banter, whatever. Then ask them out! Suggest a day, time, and place for a date and see what they say. Texting is boring. You'll never ever get a girl to like you solely based on your text game. Attraction isn't about the words you say. It's about fe…
/r/seduction09/01/17 02:50 PM
1

You gotta read that again man. You have to EARN self esteem. You get high self esteem by becoming someone with a reason to have high self esteem. If you have low self esteem, there's a reason for it. You don't just magically find something about yourself that you like. If you don't like yourself, then do something about it.
/r/seduction02/01/17 06:11 AM
9

Well sure but that's what a shit test is to me. Many guys here like to believe a girl is actually thinking about testing you in their heads, but that's naive. It's just the name we've assigned to the phenomenon. You still have to react accordingly.
/r/seduction01/01/17 02:04 AM
51

Idk if it's a suppression or denial of their sexuality, it seems more like a shit test to me. It's to check to see if you're the real deal or not. She probably likes you and hopes you're a real man. She needs to see if you're gonna turn into a mopey bitch boi or an angry jerk when you think you're not gonna get laid. That's just my opinion of course.
/r/seduction31/12/16 07:19 PM
1

Nope. But giving up is just as bad. Maybe you'll decide to man up one day. Good luck
/r/seduction31/12/16 02:54 AM
1

I can tell.
/r/seduction31/12/16 01:12 AM
1

Not wanting to date a beta bitch boi doesn't make a girl shallow. Try becoming someone worth dating and see what happens.
/r/seduction30/12/16 09:41 PM
1

It's kind of like non community members discovering something we discovered 20 years ago and then coming to tell us about it. We knew this already. And the why actually isn't that important, even though we can probably speculate correctly on that as well. We do treat it like a science, but there's a fine line between intellectualizing seduction and living it. The goal is to live it without thinking, so anyone who's already mastered this aspect of the game doesn't need to intellectualize it anymo…
/r/seduction30/12/16 09:37 PM
1

Control? If she invites me to a party with her friends and all of the girls there want my dick then I'm in control.
/r/seduction30/12/16 09:23 PM
10

YOU had a good first date, SHE didn't. Her perspective is not the same as yours. You cooked her dinner for the first date? Terrible idea. Not casual and needy. You didn't escalate at all while she was at your house? She probably wanted to get fucked and instead you cooked her dinner like a beta boi. She refused a kiss. If a girl refuses a kiss, she's not into you. A girl may kiss you on the first date if you try, just to avoid awkwardness. She'll cuddle with you if that's what you want, even if …
/r/seduction28/12/16 03:36 AM
1

https://www.meetup.com
/r/seduction28/12/16 01:59 AM
7

It's the same as any other night. A line isn't going to change your game. If there's attraction and you've built rapport/comfort, then it'll work. If not, it's cringey. Play tot best game and with a little luck you'll get a kiss close. And just maybe there's a little bit better odds tonight than usual. Ultimately, make sure you have fun!
/r/seduction28/12/16 01:59 AM
1

Awesome man, next step is to do it. You'll come to appreciate the butterflies beforehand.
/r/seduction28/12/16 01:55 AM
1

Dude, you want to not fuck it up? Then fucking kiss her!! Stop thinking about it. You initiate. Don't text her and tell her that you're gonna kiss her. Ask her to hang out. Say hi, look at her for a few seconds don't say anything, just look into her eyes and then down at her lips. Just a few seconds, then go in. Don't head butt her! Just go in, make sure your lips make contact, then close your eyes. You're massaging each other's lips now. Let her lead this part! She won't know she's leading, jus…
/r/seduction28/12/16 01:07 AM
1

"The Game" is NOT the bible of pick up. And no, that's not my opinion. You know why? BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN A PICK UP BOOK! It's an autobiography. "The Game" is about the journey of pick up, the lessons learned during that journey, and the negative consequences that pick up has on its followers. As well as some benefits of course, otherwise this community wouldn't exist. So yes, read "The Game" first. Not for lessons on pick up, but for the lesson that so many PUAs skip before starting, with disa…
/r/seduction28/12/16 12:56 AM
2

Most people are missing something really important in their understand of confidence. You don't fake confidence until you make it. You can't just express confidence. You have to GAIN it. You have to EARN it and BUILD it. Everyone always wants to skip to cold approaches. They want to learn outer game and then start negging and kinoing. You should develop your innee game before even thinking about how to seduce women. And you don't develop inner game by reading manuals and watching YouTube videos.…
/r/seduction28/12/16 12:42 AM
18

Shrooms are actually being investigated as cures for depression right now. Shrooms and LSD seem to leave PERMANENT effect on your mind, typically for the better. Not that everyone should decide to self medicate themselves.
/r/seduction26/12/16 06:07 PM
0

Uh no. Shroom trips have been shown in scientific studies to PERMANENTLY alter people's perception and sometimes personality, even helping/curing depression for years to come. This is independent of "work." Yes a lifestyle change takes work. But that's not what you're responding too.
/r/seduction26/12/16 06:05 PM
1

Of course people prefer certain ethnicities. So what? Girls prefer guys who are over 6' tall a lot of the times, and what do we fell short guys, to get surgery? Wear stilts? No, you work on your game until it's tight and then you work with what you've got. Like you said, moving somewhere is not seduction skill, and if you're moving to get girls, you've got deeper issues than girl troubles. I don't care where you live, there is a blonde girl who wants some ethnic dick. You can approach 100 girls …
/r/seduction26/12/16 07:18 AM
1

Sure am. There's doesn't seem to be many players around here so the field is my playground. Good luck breh!
/r/seduction26/12/16 04:20 AM
1

For sure. That's a part if inner game in my opinion. You should constantly be making yourself a better you, and that includes; dressing well, having a good haircut, grooming, gym time, having fashiinable glasses or contacts, and anything else to boost your attractiveness. If you're neglecting your looks to focus on outer game, your game is not tight. I'm not sure everyone can reach instant hookup status though!
/r/seduction26/12/16 02:22 AM
7

I agree. I would tell her to enjoy herself on her trip and to call me when she gets back if she feels like it. Then I'd fuck a bunch of hot girls lol. If she wants you back later, you can decide what to do from there. But the last thing you want is to remain stagnant while she's gone. You should constantly be moving forward, being better, and playing the game. Forcing a label WILL encourage her to cheat.
/r/seduction26/12/16 02:07 AM
6

You answered your own question. "2 month residency in another country." If you went to a foreign country for 2 months and had 8,9, and 10/10 girls asking you to dance, would you want to be tied down? No, no you wouldn't. She likes you, but now she knows you want a more serious thing, so she's keeping her distance to keep you from getting the wrong idea and to keep her from getting in too deep. She's your temporary friend with benefits. Enjoy it. She may come back after the trip and want you, but…
/r/seduction26/12/16 02:04 AM
2

Either. You can watch a movie at his place and don't allow it to move to his bedroom. A couch and a blanket is perfect for cuddling. Or go to the movie theatre and raise the arm rest to either snuggle up with him or allow him to make his move.
/r/seduction25/12/16 10:43 PM
2

Merry Christmas! Yes his place would imply you want to hookup. Just don't let it move to his bed and it you should be good. The movies is a good idea too. Scope it out out first and make sure the arm rest raise up. Raise them as soon as you get there and make sure he sees. That should be enough of a sign for him to put his arm around you.
/r/seduction25/12/16 07:12 PM
3

I genuinely smile at my grandma, that's not the same as interest. When she comes around to your desk/office/work station and lingers for way too long multiple times per day on a daily basis while showing IOIs and then leaves without mentioning anything work related, then you can ask her to get a drink after work. Think about how you'd feel if an ugly girl did what I just described to you. You'd want her to leave you alone probably. That's how a woman feels when you start trying to game her at wo…
/r/seduction25/12/16 07:18 AM
6

Don't. The only reason you should be going for someone in the office is if they've made it blatantly obvious that they're into you. It is inherent to seduction theory that you will fail before you succeed. If you fail at the bar, it doesn't matter. If you fail at work, you're a creep. If a girl at work has not shown any obvious and I mean OBVIOUS interest in you, then she does not want you approaching her at her job. She's there to get shit done, not be distracted by some guy practicing pick up.…
/r/seduction25/12/16 04:19 AM
-1

I hear reading the sidebar works. -->
/r/seduction25/12/16 04:15 AM
3

It doesn't matter. Just wait until you get back from break. Less is more when it comes to texting. Ask him to hang out, anything you want. Something fun, maybe an intimate setting like a nice lounge or coffee shop, or someone's house. And escalate physically. If he's not having it, he'll tell you. Or he'll go with it and tell you later that he's not into it. But it's better to find out in my opinion than to play the back and forth. Someone has to escalate. You can wait and see, but it it hasn't …
/r/seduction25/12/16 03:54 AM
2

An average frustrated chump. It's not really derogatory, just describes most guys who don't know seduction. Are you a man or woman? Either way, yes, the next step is physical escalation. Try holding hands. Grabbing legs, massages, cuddling. And then kiss.
/r/seduction25/12/16 03:19 AM
7

You're completely in charge of whether or not you're in a relationship. If you buy her a Valentine's gift, hold her hand in public, call her baby, and change your Facebook status to taken, then it's all your fault. Don't do this stuff. If she asks what it is y'all are doing, tell her how you feel and what you want. She might be into it, she might not, but be honest.
/r/seduction25/12/16 02:35 AM
2

Rob is being an AFC. Next time you're together, and there's a lull in the conversation, just stare into his eyes and lick you lips subtly. He'd better fucking kiss you. If he doesn't, don't blame yourself. Of course, you can go for it yourself. But yeah, sounds like it's time for a kiss.
/r/seduction25/12/16 02:33 AM
1

That's the opposite of what I'm saying. All of that advice is for future interactions. As for this girl, I'm saying give it one more shot and be prepared to next her. But what's wrong with doing something platonic? Getting friendzoned is just an opportunity to strengthen your social circle. This hot girl your into had hot friends, doesn't she?
/r/seduction24/12/16 05:38 PM
1

I agree. I personally always ask even if it seems to be going south, and assuming there isn't some social circle conflict of interest that could come back to bite me. She could very well just be tired of the endless small talk. If you truly believe in the law of abundance, you can simultaneously ask a girl out while maintaining your attractive male status.
/r/seduction24/12/16 07:51 AM
3

Damn you're aggressive lol, kind of like the fake amogs busy measuring their dicks at the party instead of getting laid. There's no harm in asking a girl if she wants to go do something fun. Best case she decides she needs a good dicking, and worst case you make a friend who can introduce you to all of her horny girlfriends. This whole culture is creating guys who are unable to have real human connection because they're stuck looking for signs and checking the rules. If you're really such a Don …
/r/seduction24/12/16 06:09 AM
6

Girls will flake unless you build a good amount of rapport before number closing. Imagine a failed marriage between two high school sweethearts that got knocked up. She says yes to the engagement because they've been dating for 2 years and she's pregnant, but not because she's necessarily excited to spend the rest of her life with this guy. It's similar when asking a girl on a date. You dance with her, crack some jokes, and say hey lets hang out sometime. Of course she'll say sure, she's having …
/r/seduction24/12/16 05:48 AM
1

There's nothing in this post to indicate that this girl doesn't like him though. He's just caught up on unimportant stuff like like not getting a reply at 3am.
/r/seduction24/12/16 05:22 AM
9

Yeah but, do it the right way. Make sure you know what that means. It's easy and comfortable to sit around all day texting a girl thinking you're making progress. You're not. You're making progress when you get up, shower, dress up, and take her somewhere to have an adventure. You're making progress when you ask her inside, put on some music, and then start taking her clothes off. I promise, when you're fucking her, you won't be trying to get attention at 3 in the morning.
/r/seduction24/12/16 04:10 AM
4

Does pussy smell when you lick it, or pull your fingers out? You think your dick doesn't smell a little from wearing jeans all day? Yes you smell like sex after sex. You've transferred internal bidily fluids to your external body, and you've been sweating. It's not pheromones, you smell gross. Take a shower.
/r/seduction24/12/16 04:06 AM
17

You don't need to move on to the next one. You need to ask this girl on a date. "Working on a girl for a few weeks," via messenger is bad game.
/r/seduction24/12/16 04:02 AM
51

Sometimes people text me at 3am. It wakes me up, I read it, and then I go the fuck back to sleep because I'm not losing sleep over some needy girl feeling lonely. Who gives a fuck about messenger? Have you put your dick in her yet? She has a dozen orbiters sending her messages at all hours of the day. Set up a date, do something fun, escalate, and give her some good dick. Lead her on an adventure like a man and stop trying to win her attention via text. That's so needy.
/r/seduction24/12/16 04:01 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter