hillary clinton to women who complain about work choices: stop whining

rapiertwit · 2012-10-18T19:53:21+00:00

I think Hillary just told women to man up.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-10-18T19:32:27+00:00

I think Hillary is starting to realize that pandering to Feminist organizations isn't going to get this country anywhere. I'll quote a discussion I was having with someone yesterday in /r/bestof regarding the wage gap due to choices women make, and unequal distribution of women in the workplace:

If a woman doesn't feel like stepping beyond archaic gender roles that's her choice. I'm a woman in IT, I know what it's like to be told that women can't do this or that (although I have faced very little opposition, I might add; sexism has never been a problem for me). If I had decided to just become a teacher or nurse, that would have been on me. I didn't sit around waiting for Title IX or Affirmative Action to swoop in and force my school or employers to take me, I decided to give the finger to gender roles and do what I wanted by working hard for it. I didn't need some government entity to try and force equality for me, I did it my damn self.

Let women do what they want. If they want to be a homemaker, fine. If they want to be an engineer, fine. If a woman really wants to be an engineer but instead becomes a homemaker despite her desires, all because a couple of assholes said it's her place, that's her own damn fault for being weak willed. I am wholeheartedly opposed to treating women like they need their fucking hands held for them to succeed.

It makes me extraordinarily happy to learn that Hillary agrees with me on this.

EDIT: Oh god, stay away from the comments. It's where intelligence goes to die.

2012-10-18T20:02:20+00:00

Oh Hillary, I suspected you'd never do so, you'd never call a spade a spade in these hyper-get-offended times.

But I was wrong.

I like being wrong sometimes.

My-Work-Reddit · 2012-10-18T19:16:34+00:00

My respect for her just went up.

2012-10-18T20:28:15+00:00

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Lyonette · 2012-10-19T17:55:13+00:00

FYI, she was talking about Holden Cauffield.

memymineown · 2012-10-18T19:48:33+00:00

Women have endless choices.

Men don't.

tedtutors · 2012-10-19T00:24:12+00:00

Self-responsibility: now available in pink and blue.

chavelah · 2012-10-18T21:11:39+00:00

I'm not sure Hillary Clinton is qualified to comment on the work-life balance issue, being as how she is internationally renowned for a fabulously successful career path and an excruciating failure of a marriage. She put all of her resources into the career side of the equation and sacrificed personal happiness utterly.

That's her choice, but not advice that I'm happy to see her dispensing to men OR women. Other countries run themselves quite competently without a culture of overwork.

SpanishGuy · 2012-10-18T20:53:52+00:00

I'm sorry to be the bastard here, but I think she's not "trashing whiners", she's criticising Anne-Marie Slaughter, the woman who left the State Department, AND giving a little break to the people that are tired of the "war on women" argument.

This is politics, guys, the beast never sleeps.

Here is where she winks at women:

Clinton wasn't totally unsympathetic toward issues raised by her former employee. "It’s important for our workplaces … to be more flexible and creative in enabling women to continue to do high-stress jobs while caring for not only children but [also] aging parents," Clinton said.

Some women will not get it, but I guess aunt Terry O'Neill will tell them: "Take it easy bitches, she's firing a blank cartridge".

Of course I may be wrong, but... well, in that case I'll be happy of being wrong.

2012-10-18T22:59:55+00:00

That is fucking hilarious, and I'm going to spam that anytime the wage gap is brought up, or anytime they shit about work-life balance, or anytime they don't want to admit the fact that almost 50% of female MD's leave the workforce within 15 years because of kids.

5eraph · 2012-10-19T01:24:59+00:00

Coming from Hillary Clinton? Holy. Shit.

ThePigman · 2012-10-19T01:46:04+00:00

Yeah, great. All we have to do now is get her to agree that men are the primary victims of war.

2012-10-19T01:48:43+00:00

that's funny because I always took Hillary based on her other comments (and of course, her policy, which is god-awful).

"Women are always the primary victims of war"

DerickBurton · 2012-10-18T21:24:16+00:00

I wonder who advised her to say that. Gotta love those focus groups!

Funcuz · 2012-10-19T01:39:19+00:00

This from the woman who said that when men get their heads blown off in some war it's the women that actually suffer ?

Yeah , um ... I don't care if she said this one , tiny little thing that we tend to agree with. As far as I'm concerned , she'd be more than happy to reverse herself if she thought she could use it to get elected .

nwz123 · 2012-10-19T04:23:54+00:00

“I can’t stand the kind of paralysis that some people fall into because they’re not happy with the choices they’ve made. You live in a time when there are endless choices. … Money certainly helps, and having that kind of financial privilege goes a long way, but you don’t even have to have money for it. But you have to work on yourself. … Do something!”

In this instance, she's a woman after my own heart. It's not enough to simply say "i am a victim of x", you have to look at it holistically, and examine all the different perspectives and nuances of the situation. You need to do this in order to go beyond just reacting to the problem (ie violence and it's self-perpetuating nature), and actually SOLVE the problem. To find a resolution that is amicable to all parties involved, and doing this requires maturity by everyone. This can only happy if we all start making personal choices to mature as a human beings, that need to get along with one another, first.

We need to grow beyond this shit.

SCCROW · 2012-10-19T16:34:09+00:00

Am I supposed to care about anything Hitlery Clinton says?

Seriously.

Title	hillary clinton to women who complain about work choices: stop whining
Author	toptrool
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Date	October 18, 2012 7:10 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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