A first hand account of the Men’s Rights Movement « NUS Women's Department

Hach8 · 2012-09-04T18:56:22+00:00

How do they get off calling this a "first hand account" when they clearly haven't spent any time actually talking to or engaging men's right's activists?

Clearly they're just spouting typical stereotypes. What is worse is that there isn't even anything to back it up. No data, no studies, not even the weak ass links to PUA or MGTOW forum posts.

And they have the nerve to label anything contrary to their position as "trolling"?

2012-09-04T16:06:56+00:00

With "first hand account" in the title, I was expecting a story about how the author had infiltrated the AVFM Treehouse and Cigar Club and made an audio recording of Paul Elam admitting that this humanist, equalist rhetoric was for the useful idiots. But it's clear from reading the article that the author had first hand access to nothing apart from his own prejudices.

ErasmusMRA · 2012-09-04T15:35:15+00:00

Let's play a drinking game! One drink for every strawman, invective and use of shaming language.

Sorry everyone. Thanks to some seriously unfun trolling comments are not allowed at the moment. We'll have them up in future.

Usual feminist tactics. Any dissent is dismissed as trolling.

EpicJ · 2012-09-04T14:13:45+00:00

A FIRST HAND ACCOUNT OF THE MEN’S RIGHTS MOVEMENT

August 29, 2012 By Melvin Richards,

Women are not half the problem with domestic violence. Women are the victims of domestic violence. Domestic violence should be the shame of all of society.

Sadly, some men think that women deserve violence. Some men are proud of abusers. Some men even think that they themselves are the victims of feminism and it’s gains for women. These men hate women. They formed the men’s movement.

The Men’s Movement

The men’s movement is coterie of pathetic losers, gross bullies and sociopaths who are bound together by their mutual hatred of women. Luckily, this ‘movement’ is largely confined to the internet. Most participants are simply unfortunate losers and common misogynists looking for an anonymous thrill. However, there is a lunatic fringe to this lunatic fringe. One American activist burnt himself to death in front of his wife and children. In Australia, a group of men harasses women who dare divorce their husbands or seek custody of their children. I have seen supporters of this movement disrupt court proceedings and accuse women prosecutors of lacking academic and legal qualifications. They are a hateful band growing bolder and more vicious every day.

To these ‘men’ women are little more than avaricious, parasitic wombs. All women are the enemy. They corrupt and enervate, sapping male vitality. In their reddit groups and blogs they trade stories of the oppression they suffer at the hands of women. In this endless feedback loop of pathetic rage they convince themselves that every problem in their life can be traced back to the pernicious influence of women. They see themselves as rebels against a degenerate feminised society.

Why We Should Fight Them!

We do not live is a society dominated by women. If women ran our society, why is that women are disproportionately the victims of rape and domestic violence. Why would the industries they dominate be the least respect and the worst paid? Why would they pay themselves less than men? Our society oppresses women, it is sexist.

For our own sakes, we must fight this system. We are taught from birth that ‘manliness’ and ‘masculinity’ means denying our emotions. We are taught to avoid community and spurn intimacy. We are taught to deny the very things that make us human. This is life spent barely living, bashing our heads against the wall.

Alienated and alone we are weak. Our only true power is our capacity for solidarity – our ability to join with others to defend our common interests. We need unions and political movements. We need progressive political parties. We cannot build those things without women. We need women who think independently. Women with courage and passion. Women with ideas and skills.

What women need from us is simple. They need us to get out of their way. Stop interrupting and start listening. Take their ideas seriously. Treat them as human beings.

As has been the case with all articles regarding the men’s rights group calling themselves ‘A voice for men’ we have changed the name to protect writers from harassment.

In all likelihood these ‘activists’ will continue to troll, as we have said all along it’s best not to engage with them you should channel your energy into getting involved in the campaign ‘In my own voice’

rottingchrist · 2012-09-04T18:48:33+00:00

Melvin Richards

Despicable white knight bastard.

That's all I think he deserves as a critique of his screed.

hesnousetomedead · 2012-09-04T13:48:42+00:00

http://catmacros.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/twaddle.jpg%3Fw%3D720

AnthonyZarat · 2012-09-04T15:12:37+00:00

I posted facts along with sources. The feminists deleted it, of course.

Feminist lie: "If women ran our society, why is that women are disproportionately the victims of rape and domestic violence."

Fact: Women rape men as often as men rape women:

http://i.imgur.com/Ps9wW.jpg

Fact: Women commit domestic vioence against men as often as men commit domestic violence against women:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence

Fact: Mens rights is an egalitarian civil rights movement that asks for (1) equal protection under the law for all and (2) equal protection of government for all.

Why are feminists so afraid of equality?

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-09-04T14:47:01+00:00

I thought Jason Southerland's response was very good.

Gingor · 2012-09-04T22:24:49+00:00

To these ‘men’ women are little more than avaricious, parasitic wombs. All women are the enemy. They corrupt and enervate, sapping male vitality. In their reddit groups and blogs they trade stories of the oppression they suffer at the hands of women. In this endless feedback loop of pathetic rage they convince themselves that every problem in their life can be traced back to the pernicious influence of women. They see themselves as rebels against a degenerate feminised society.

Is it just me or does this sound a lot like he wrote an article about feminism and did a genderswitch?

What women need from us is simple. They need us to get out of their way.

First he talks about solidarity of everybody, of working together, then men just need to get out of the way of women.

Yeah, right.

pcarvious · 2012-09-04T22:04:18+00:00

So apparently I don't exist.

Curebores · 2012-09-05T04:42:17+00:00

Sorry everyone. Thanks to some seriously unfun trolling comments are not allowed at the moment. We'll have them up in future.

FTFY:

Sorry everyone, due to some people calling me out on my bullshit and daring to hold a different opinion I've decided to stick my fingers in my ears. Hopefully they will leave soon so I can go back to my echo chamber...

Title	A first hand account of the Men’s Rights Movement « NUS Women's Department
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Date	September 4, 2012 1:40 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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