Male suicide

Andynnos · 2021-10-08T08:22:40+00:00

What a fucked up society we are living in. To make a competition of people misery and death is fucking wrong no matter how you look at it. Who cares who wins? We need to find a way to put a stop to it. Anyone that thinks is good to win a suicide competition can go f yourself. Grrr.

nohand13 · 2021-10-08T09:15:32+00:00

I think it's all just a bunch of conspiracies rooted in hatred for the opposite gender. Let's try to be rational here.

#1: We want to prevent suicide -> We collect data -> Men are more likely to commit suicide then women -> Therefore, it is appropriate to put more suicide prevention resources into the male population -> This does not mean that the women population is neglected

#2: We want to prevent attention grabbing self harm -> We collect data -> Women are more likely to make unsuccessful suicide attempts -> Therefore, it is appropriate to put more attention grabbing self harm prevention resources into the women population -> This does not mean that the male population is neglected

I'm not a professional but I think these interpretations are logical and make sense and are not rooted in some kind of hatred.

Aissir · 2021-10-08T11:04:50+00:00

I bet men attempt suicide way more than is reported but if it's unsuccessful they reach out for help less or it just doesn't get reported

slipkid223 · 2021-10-08T13:09:41+00:00

Because the narrative must always portray the women as the "real' victims no matter what the actual facts show.

GigaShagger · 2021-10-08T12:04:07+00:00

Looked at her page, she is clearly not very bright. These people will never be happy.

Clemicus · 2021-10-08T12:29:03+00:00

TL;DR: frames as women attempting suicide at a greater rate. The point of the longer post was trying to remove the focus from a legitimate point (men are committing suicide at a greater rate in comparison to women), making women victims (of a multitude of reasons) and, just shitting on men as inhumane narcissistic monsters

It's pretty despicable. What it omitted -- that was in the longer version I vaguely remember reading -- was framing it as men, who've committed suicide, didn't care how they left their bodies. They didn't care what state it'd be in and who'd find it and the affect it'd have on that person

In comparison, to women who've committed suicide. That they'd think about how which method to use and who'd find them. So they'd use other methods, I don't recall if this was mentioned, such as overdoses. So not to leave a messy or overly violent scene behind

Because they, women, in short, have been conditioned to put other people first over themselves, much like they've experienced throughout their lives. When they are either planning or committing suicide, they thought how the scene would affect the person who found them

The reason why I stated it's despicable because it frames men, who've committed suicide, as inhumane. They don't care how messy or violent the method used is and how they leave their body to be found. They don't look beyond death or think about the affect it'd have on the person who finds them. Their focus is on death and nothing else

The single method used brought up is easy access to guns. Outside of the US, how many countries can you legally buy guns and how regulated the processes to gain a gun licence are (such as in comparison to say the UK). It isn't really a legitimate point, it's more of a US centric point and, if you compare statistics, the rate men are committing suicide in greater numbers in comparison to women differs in only a few countries at most

wdean8358 · 2021-10-08T07:22:30+00:00

Men don't get the attention that women get. A woman posting a sad story on insta will get far more replies than a man doing the same.

Suplexsmash_ · 2021-10-08T06:43:43+00:00

women at my school like to cut (more like scratch) themselves for attention and then get mad when they don’t get any.

Least_Chemical_7022 · 2021-10-08T08:35:23+00:00

In regards to women not using methods which disfigure themselves more has to do with female psychology than a cultural issue. There's a reason why women attempt suicide more often but fail to follow through, and take less risks which could end their life. Hence why they live longer. Less of the "hold my beer bro" antics. It appears(unsurprisingly) that testosterone makes men more aggressive and likely to follow through with the act and have less of a self preservation instinct.

I recently started taking testosterone(TRT) and was put on too high of a dose. That subsequently skyrocketed my estrogen and turned me into a moody drama queen. I knew right away what was going on, and it only solidified my belief that hormones have a huge impact on our behavior. Womanists would like you to believe it's all "cultural" though, and that there aren't any inherent differences between men and woman. They're completely separated from reality imo.

blankets777 · 2021-10-08T12:25:29+00:00

Cool, let's trivialise suicide as well.

Magical-Hummus · 2021-10-08T12:57:45+00:00

Well yes, if you succeed with the first attempt then you have less 'chances' to do it again. Plus you have to look up how an "attempt" is defined in your country/state. Sometimes the slightest self-harm (like a scratch) by women is being counted as "attempt".

rinkinky · 2021-10-08T13:37:55+00:00

Why are people so focused on who has the higher success rate of suicide and not focused on the reasons of WHY male and females are killing themselves???

Most men don’t express their feelings because society has shunned that type of thing, which explains their higher rate of suicide

Yes women commit suicide too, it’s not a competition of who does it more though. I can’t understand why the world is so focused on who should be more pitied instead of focusing on the changes our society needs to make to help both men and women who are committing suicide.

bigblueberryboobies · 2021-10-08T15:20:01+00:00

Whoever wrote that, I’m assuming the girl behind the text, is the most misanthropic, delusional,Narcissistic person I’ve ever had the pleasure of reading they’re thoughts. Suicide is a horrible part of life, we should be working together to prevent it. I wonder if it ever crossed her mind that women themselves may be causing this male suicides. God what a horrible person.

GynocentrismCanSMyD · 2021-10-08T09:56:15+00:00

These people are head up ass retarded...

RoryTate · 2021-10-08T15:29:09+00:00

Ignorance like that from the person you quote is the reason that we have an epidemic of male suicide that has been raging for decades, with nothing being done except shaming men for "not being more like women".

Please be aware that the whole "women attempt suicide more" is a faulty conclusion from a single, poorly done paper that has become entrenched in common culture. Yet, according to those same misused hospital numbers in this sloppy study, women who are 30-44 die almost 4x more often from suicide than girls in the 15-19 age group, while the younger group appears to attempt suicide twice as often as the older group. So if the person who posted that comment is right (news flash: they're flat out wrong), then they should be asking why women in their thirties use more deadly and messy methods to kill themselves. But they don't, because the whole purpose is to find ways to publicly hate and shame men as a group. Anything that might possibly show that women aren't superior, or that fails to establish the inferiority of the male sex, is never considered or spoken.

rabel111 · 2021-10-08T10:54:27+00:00

Shows the low IQ stupidity of so many women who hate men. "Women tend to kill themselves in a way that doesn't leave a mess". OMG...... The point is women aren't killing themselves, and their choice of method is carefully chosen to minimise the risk of any real pain or harm.

swimmingbutterknife · 2021-10-08T17:42:16+00:00

"any way some food for thought" as if the way that men kill themselves is somehow opressive to women, what a fucking idiot.

Udesiir · 2021-10-08T12:22:40+00:00

looking at the app being used, it makes sense

Refuge of many fucked up people.

auMatech · 2021-10-08T12:22:58+00:00

Anyone got sources to actual figures?

Somehow the 3x likelihood to attempt seems incorrect.

Dwaynedibley24601 · 2021-10-08T13:06:48+00:00

Men being more aggressive genetically, resort to more violent means to end their life. This is well documented over decades and decades of research. Men do irrevocable things, like shooting themselves, hanging themselves, or driving high speed into a wall... all very fast. Women resort to attempts like pills or wrist cutting which in comparison are rather slow. overdose death can take HOURS! Resulting in more discoveries and lies being saved. A suicidal person who feels like the world hates them is completely hopeless and just wants to die so the pain will stop is NOT concerned about looking beautiful in death. This is just dumb.

Fart-Eater2567 · 2021-10-08T16:02:20+00:00

Still finding a way to make men the villain

hottake_toothache · 2021-10-08T20:54:38+00:00

Men's issue are always dismissed based on some excuse, because people don't care about men.

Major_Youth8788 · 2021-10-08T21:38:53+00:00

I wanna commit suicide rn tbh I hate life I just wanna die so bad. There’s nothing here for me anyway it’s not like I’ll be missed

StudentOfTheTruth0 · 2021-10-10T05:19:14+00:00

A very clear possibility is that many women "attempting" to commit suicide are not doing anything of the kind. Some of them are self-cutting (a mental illness that has nothing to do with suicide) and many are using a "suicide attempt" partly as attention seeking, partly as a moral blackmail tool (of a partner or family members etc.). They claim that they attempted suicide but then why don't the succeed? So a lot of the so-called female "suicide attempts" are something else, hence the low rate of success. The "different methods used" is another hogwash. Nothing prevents women from using the same methods as men (i.e. the actual methods of actual suicide) if they mean it.

Men, on the other hand, do mean it. They succeed in huge numbers, and the "but more women attempt it (without doing it) is hogwash to try to make the seriousness of male suicide rates look less serious, and to prevent any proper investigation of its causes.

My 2 cents.

ksaarthak · 2021-10-08T07:59:07+00:00

I see so many people thinking like this about male suicide: https://imgur.com/a/iUNehz4

Seriously??!! damn!!! gotta pay my janitor then !!!

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Sorry for the bad joke.

ignatztempotypo · 2021-10-08T06:06:13+00:00

Buahahaha Women are more likely to be inept. That's too funny.

Tanman55555 · 2021-10-09T06:44:35+00:00

If i wanted to kill myself I wouldnt fail I would fail until the moment of success “I failed suicide” Yeah hou are either dumb or didnt tryly want to due

wanthonio31 · 2021-10-10T00:18:53+00:00

They're trying so hard to make this 'gotcha' (out of suicide), but I don't know what point are they even trying to make. That's how they target the issue?

red_philosopher · 2021-10-10T03:34:15+00:00

A 3x rate with 1/3x attempts = 9x more likely to die.

Way to minimize the threat of suicide to men. Great human being.

Title	Male suicide
Author	day5tar
Upvotes	360
Comments	66
Date	October 8, 2021 5:35 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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