“Make women feel safe”

Nathaniel66 · 2021-10-14T08:27:20+00:00

"Women have always been primary victims of war. Women loose their fathers, their husbands, their sons in combat" - Hilary Clinton.

That's the same issue as hitting back woman who attacked you. You can't, cause by default you're stronger. But why TF she attacked you in the first place? If i attack a guy that i bigger and 100 lbs heavier, he will kick my ass and people will say: "you asked for it, you knew he will beat you" but if we put the woman in this situation she has all the ases. She can do everything while you better take the punch.

dariomenendez · 2021-10-14T11:56:37+00:00

What does making women feel safe mean? Like my gf or random women in public? How do you make someone feel safe?

Panderjit_SinghVV · 2021-10-14T13:41:25+00:00

Women correctly do feel safe and protected. They are far safer from crime and violence than men. That’s why they get so outraged on the rare occasion one of their own gets hurt. The Sarah Everard case in the UK is a good example: the uproar was deafening because a young middle class woman was killed.

uzy111 · 2021-10-14T11:11:28+00:00

I have to admit, I have no problem making them feel more comfortable. But it feels degrading and I feel myself becoming more uncomfortable doing it. True female privilege right there.

dingoperson2 · 2021-10-14T08:27:44+00:00

True. Women are the victims of far less violence than men.

"But it's men's/rape victims own fault for who they choose to spend their time with!" responds the feminists. "After all, the men/rape victims have chosen to associate with violent people!"

Wait, that, but only the "men" part, not the "rape victims" part.

drtapp39 · 2021-10-14T11:24:27+00:00

Everyones version of "safe" is different. Its subjective and complete arrogance to think everyone else should change around your version of a feeling

DouglasWallace · 2021-10-14T11:54:10+00:00

We expect women to be rational creatures and only be scared when there is a reason. (That reason might only be a harmless house spider, but it is at least a reason.)

However, feminism makes victims of women. Eternal victims. It tells women again and again (and again and again….) that they are not safe. So women, who have been protected and cossetted by men for thousands of generations, now feel that men are unsafe (yes, a very small minority of men are unsafe, possibly more than the number of unsafe women).

And that is the trick: we have moved from women being unsafe to women feeling unsafe. But men's instinct is to protect women, so if a woman says the feels unsafe, we want to deal with the danger .. even though there might be no danger at all!

Men don't have the same instinct about other men, it is something we have to deliberately develop in ourselves. But feminism steps in there, too, in all sorts of ways from coming up with a conspiracy theory that all men are out to oppress all women – which we naturally don't want to prove by, you know, working together and helping each other – to dreaming up how many men are dangerous, so that we are more likely to hunt them down than put out a helping hand.

In rejecting feminism, put your hand out to your fellow man. Care for him. Be a responsible citizen and look after everyone in society, not just women.

PicklesAreMyFriends · 2021-10-14T15:24:05+00:00

"Women are just as capable/equal to men"

"Women need special treatment"

Pick one, feminists

coercedaccount2 · 2021-10-14T17:04:37+00:00

The majority of violent crime victims are male. 80% of homicide victims are male. Women are safer than men are. The fear of men is pumped relentlessly as a way of justifying prejudice and hate. Modern feminists sound eerily similar to racist whites in the Jim Crow south. They used the idea that blacks were "dangerous" as a way to justify their horrid treatment of blacks. They claimed to that they were just protecting themselves from a dangerous demographic. Women today follow the same strategy with men.

M4String · 2021-10-14T10:50:02+00:00

Notice how it's never "make women safe", because that would not only result in women's freedoms being stripped away. You've got to make them "feel" safe, as though you're the one who has control over the emotions of women.

pennywise1235 · 2021-10-14T10:47:31+00:00

Nope. Protect yourselves. Remember, you don’t need men. We don’t need you either, but that’s a discussion for another time.

El_Psy_Congroo4477 · 2021-10-14T13:14:23+00:00

Society today is so obsessed with feeling safe, but whether you feel safe or unsafe is all in your head. In reality, there's no such thing as safety. You could get killed checking your mail or walking your dog.

Nihi1986 · 2021-10-14T18:27:23+00:00

Seems you are about to discover an ugly truth...

Yep, women are way more valuable to society (modern or older) than men. Unless there are literally no men around for reproduction and physical work, a woman is always going to be more valuable, heck, even unfertile, old women are more valuable than a healthy young man.

It's also a consequence of 'toxic masculinity' mindset (you know, that one promoted by the 'patriarchy': men can't complain, can't cry, can't ask for help, can't look or act weak, and have to protect women. The outcome? Women are protected but men are left alone.

Honestly, I'm not against protecting women, not at all, and normally they'd need it, but lets just protect everyone please...

stunspot · 2021-10-14T13:01:51+00:00

It's crap like this that makes it hard to respect some women. Show some fucking personal courage, ladies! Men are more likely to be victims of violence and we're expected.to just suck it up, man up, and cope. Well, I have. And now I can't respect someone who refuses to.

Estarossa86 · 2021-10-14T20:16:41+00:00

I’m not going out of my way to make anyone feel a damn thing if I don’t know you I owe you zero protection fucks wrong with people? If I die defending some random woman she gonna pay for my funeral? She gonna protect my mother and sisters? My niece and nephew? Fuck no

LastAmericanLion · 2021-10-14T11:48:07+00:00

Whenever men act like women are dainty flowers it makes me want to puke. Do these people even know women? Some women are vicious as hell and they don't need men to protect them. Especially while these same women are going around bashing men. It never made sense to me.

OctaviaPinfold · 2021-10-14T12:34:11+00:00

Strong independent women when talking about rights: We're strong and independent
Also strong independent women when talking about responsibilities and consequences: We're baby

delocalelectron · 2021-10-14T11:23:19+00:00

In Britain, it has been proposed to adopt a new '888' phone line service for women - effectively a surveillance of women by partners or family members. The logical conclusion is that, in order for women to feel safe, the West should adopt Islamic practices, and never let them out of our sight. See 'We Won't Need Gillette When the Taliban Arrive' by Ken Jataimu.

hottake_toothache · 2021-10-14T12:44:31+00:00

People care about women, and don't care about men.

WingsofSky · 2021-10-14T12:03:48+00:00

In my opinion. Some women are worth protecting. Not all.

It's your choice what to do and who to protect. If I die for someone. They are going to be someone I care for.

Screw that "protect all women" thing.

IronJohnMRA · 2021-10-14T14:46:06+00:00

But why only women?

Because they need a villain. Since most men aren't criminals, they're trying to get as many of them to believe, and act, as if they are dangerous to women. That's enough to reinforce the political narrative in this culture. Most women are already on board, and don't need convincing.

kapriece · 2021-10-14T19:25:37+00:00

Fuck that noise. We're equal right? Fight your own battles or pipe down is what I tell em when they bring this up.

210101210 · 2021-10-14T09:45:32+00:00

I constantly see people saying that men need to go out of their way and make women feel safe and protected.

That's actually misogyny as it considers women as inferior.

But why only women? As if men aren't in more danger...

Because those same people who say this doesn't have any problem as long as their misogynistic beliefs leads to benevolent sexism.

auMatech · 2021-10-14T13:04:31+00:00

You could make women feel safe by stopping the constant fear mongering by feminist organisations that women are likely to be harassed, raped or murdered statistically every day.

You could also make women feel safe by enacting symbolic changes into society or legislation. This would change nothing about their safety.

An important thing to note is, you cannot appease everyone's feelings. What we as a society CAN do, is make society safer for men and women. This way, people will actually BE safe, regardless of how they feel...

Mythandros · 2021-10-14T16:10:12+00:00

The only person I have any responsibility to is myself. If a woman doesn't feel safe, it's not my problem.

delocalelectron · 2021-10-14T10:50:30+00:00

Without a man to protect her, no woman really feels 'safe'. But, they have been encouraged to believe that they don't need men, and reality is beginning to hit home. In the past, men would also have been naturally 'chivalrous' towards women - giving up seats on public transport, holding doors open, etc. These days, such gallantry will be thrown back in your face, with an accompanying sneer. Has it ever occurred to women that their own entitled behaviours, their disrespect for men, their cheating, their hypergamy, may be the actual triggers of any misogyny they currently experience?

2021-10-14T13:17:56+00:00

"Make Women Feel Safe?" I identify as female. Let me have that female privilege.

StinkingDischarge · 2021-10-14T15:31:01+00:00

How about this.... How someone "feels" is their business and their problem. How does this involve anyone but them??

BeNice_777 · 2021-10-14T20:08:36+00:00

Sorry but exactly how am I supposed to be responsible for the feelings of safety of another grown adult?

RusticSurge10 · 2021-10-14T20:10:13+00:00

yeah. and I don't get the "men are murderers so we don't care about male victims" argument.
like if you aren't trying to find who is more likely to murder someone by looking at how they were treated as a kid, if their parents were abusive etc and avoid more murders in the future, why are you focusing on men? just to pin the blame on all men cuz you get more ways to be toxic??

and they don't even care about the victim actually. cuz if a woman murders another woman its fine (they don't give a shit about the murderer and her past), and if a woman kills a man its still fine (cuz kill all men lmao), but when a man kills a (woman or a man doesn't matter), everyone starts to freak out and hate all men for murdering people etc.

and if he kills a woman everyone also tries to stop men from murdering women.

for men though, there is no help. its like they want people to murder men.

OrwellianHell · 2021-10-14T22:46:40+00:00

I have a wife and two daughters. I'll do whatever it takes for their safety. The rest of them are on their own. F it.

bfte2 · 2021-10-15T10:31:59+00:00

Always prioritize your safety above all. The same losers who tell you to "make women feel safe" will never do the same for you.

Kuato2012 · 2021-10-14T12:31:15+00:00

I suppose we could make women feel safer by dismantling the feminist propaganda machine that constantly paints all men as evil, rapey bogeymen....

Selfmade_3127 · 2021-10-14T12:05:30+00:00

you have to see the bigger picture ... take 2 steps back and behold

what women demand: * safety * provisioning/money * reproduction

all three in combination is called a "relationship"

they try to get all of this FOR FREE without investing time/effort into a man: * safety (from the government / law / police) * provisioning/money (from the government) * reproduction (tricking men, casual sex)

if we are stupid enough to give them all of this for free, then we have made ourselves obsolete ... we will be just pay slaves paying taxes to finance women's single motherhood lifestyle (we already are)

elebrin · 2021-10-14T12:13:35+00:00

The truth is that if you want to feel safe above all else, you never will. Because, ultimately, none of us are 100% safe all the time. That's impossible, because you never really know what out there is going to harm you next.

You have to accept that there are dangers in this world, that bad things happen, that bad things WILL happen to you, and that there is a very low chance you'll be prepared to deal with it properly. You can mitigate some risk and choose not to be a victim without going overboard.

Ok_Research219 · 2021-10-14T12:19:49+00:00

For all this talk of women wanting to feel safe. They put themselves in danger of a lot things many of them accuse men of yet at the same time rub themselves to.

DerickSFrazer · 2021-10-14T08:41:05+00:00

Simps

Insidious-Sid · 2021-10-14T14:34:37+00:00

AT BEST I owe someone a 911 call from a SAFE PLACE.

The social contracts with "us men" are now null and void.

Women chose "big daddy government" as their de-facto provider and protector.

Women now brag shamelessly about needing no man.

So, while women film the scene and wait for help to arrive from a safe distance, so can you.

Or you can just get the fuck out of there.

Do you really want to fill out witness reports and go to court anyways?

coffeeinvenice · 2021-10-14T14:22:24+00:00

There is a very simple way to make women feel safe in public.

You ignore their fear altogether.

If you're walking behind a woman, don't change your pace, cross the street, slow down, or do anything else. Just go where you are going.

What happens if every man does this? Collectively, they send a message with their body language that their "fear" is a hallucination. It's counterintuitive, but it works. If, instead, you change your pace, slow down, cross the street, etc., you're sending the message that you are watching what they are doing and reacting to their paranoia. And you send the subconscious message that their paranoia is justified.

I used to modify my pace or cross the street whenever I saw a woman in public who looked like she was fearful. Especially at night. Then one day about a year ago, I got tired of it.

I was walking down a sidewalk one night and there was a woman up ahead of me. She seemed conscious that I was behind her. I said to myself, I've finally had enough of trying to accommodate these people, and just kept walking. Didn't change my pace or my direction. I just didn't care anymore.

An interesting thing happened. She started walking more confidently, seemed slightly embarrassed, turned the next corner, went to wherever she was going. Situation resolved.

You just act like you don't give a fuck. Paying attention to them is what makes them nervous. "Trying to make them less nervous" just makes them more nervous.

AbysmalDescent · 2021-10-14T14:53:49+00:00

Right, as men you just have to ignore the fact that this logic fails in any other context, like if you had white people telling black people "you should cross the street when you see a white person, because you need to make them feel safe".

Ignore the blatant fallacy that women are already living in their own delusional narrative that men could never really live up to no matter what they do because women will fear men no matter what. Ignore the fact that any effort to make women feel more at ease could also be interpreted very negatively(meekness, lack of confidence, weakness, etc) or maliciously, simply because many women have a hostile predisposition towards most men to begin with.

Ignore the fact that a lot of traits that women should see as red flags(pushing boundaries, brashness, being too comfortable/confident with dating/women) in men are often completely ignored when those men are tall/hot, or the fact that women often specifically seek out and romanticize toxic/dangerous qualities in men specifically because it turns them on or they delusionally believe it will make them feel safer(like seeking out aggressiveness, assertiveness or violent dispositons).

Ignore the fact that men are victimized or subjected to violence more often than women are, or that men are typically the ones to put themselves in the face of danger to protect women, even when those women are deliberately putting themselves in danger or provoking violence because they think they are entitled to live in a crime-free society or because they think they get away with it.

Ignore the fact that women wouldn't lift a single finger to make men feel more comfortable or safer, because they just assume that men are impervious to harm or fear. Most can't even be bothered to approach men, despite being in a clear position of power/privilege to do so, or go out of their way to make men feel at ease when they approach or talk to them.

Ignore the fact that men take huge risks every time they approach women, some times even just for looking in their direction, when those women can just turn around, say "that guy looked at me funny" and immediately put him at risk of violence from other men or authorities.

Men are just expected to accept the constant prejudice and fear-mongering that is being thrown their way by sexist, selfish and entitled women, and accept this massive amount of projection and character assassination that most women casually direct towards men on a daily basis.

TEL-CFC_boi · 2021-10-14T23:07:30+00:00

It's all of these people who say that we should abandon traditional gender roles, but very quickly say that men need to step up and be protectors and need to do better.

I am not a police officer nor a soldier. I am not your personal protective service.

I am happy to walk a female friend home at night at risk to myself, but not because she is a woman. I'd do it for any friend (male or female), because I'm that kind of bloke.

It should not be an expectation that because I'm a man, I should walk them home so they are safe (despite the fact that in the vast majority of violent crime, the male is the victim), especially when society is saying we should abandon gender roles...while demanding their enforcement.

If I walk a woman home through a rough part of town, who will protect me when I'm stabbed, walking back through the same area...alone

seeyeay · 2021-10-14T19:21:01+00:00

Welcome to crimson medication rule #1 men are disposable.

Mikkeru · 2021-10-14T21:35:41+00:00

Men are more likely to be the victims of assault.

Desperate_Exchange73 · 2021-10-15T19:31:27+00:00

I've heard/read multiple women say "if you're walking in the same direction as a woman, cross the street (especially if you're behind her) to make her feel safe"....

Fuck no, if she doesn't feel safe, SHE can cross the street. Or she can be a normal human being and just walk to her destination like the man on the same sidewalk without making sexist assumptions and leaving this Jim Crow shit out of it.

VIIIMan · 2021-10-14T14:35:00+00:00

Whether women feel safe or not, is not my problem.

LateralThinker13 · 2021-10-14T17:15:41+00:00

men need to go out of their way and make women feel safe and protected.

I can't do that, Princess. To protect you is to take away your agency and to objectify you. Instead I'll treat you as a competent adult and tell you what I tell men: go armed. If you live in a place that's dangerous or doesn't allow self-protection, move. Stop relying upon others to protect you.

Being an agent (protecting yourself) instead of an object (protected by others) sucks, doesn't it Princess? You have to actually be responsible for yourself, and you and Feminism both HATE that. Well, take the advice you always give men and SUCK IT UP.

Gaiinahat · 2021-10-14T23:24:21+00:00

I ignore it. If women don't feel safe, they can stay home. Or carry a gun. Or learn martial arts. It's not my job to go out of my way to make them feel safe. They wanted equality, they're on their own, just like us men.

maxlvb · 2021-10-14T23:26:13+00:00

Women often complain men are not stepping in on their behalf, under the mistaken presumption women are entitled to men's protection.

Feminism: Equality, when convenient.

_General--Kenobi_ · 2021-10-14T19:24:17+00:00

The only argument I could possibly see to that is this: Men are safe because we have the strength and size to defend ourselves from most attacks. We are also the primary demographic that owns firearms, meaning we're more likely to be strapped in the case of an armed attack. Women FEEL unsafe because they lack the same strength and ability to defend themselves physically. Even though there are multiple options for women to be just as deadly as men in combat or a assault situation, either through the use of weapons or martial arts.

But for some reason instead of just accepting the state of the Worlds dangers as they are, and arming themselves against it, the solution for a lot of women is "teach men not to rape/attack" :/

We've tried to teach terrorists not to kill innocent people. We've tried to teach tribal nations not to wage war with each other. We've tried to teach people not to be greedy, selfish, deceitful, and all manner of negative inflections. And yet, the human propensity for debauchery has never, and most likely will never subside. So why keep trying when you can just equip yourself to handle it?

OneAndRich · 2021-10-14T22:09:51+00:00

I always hated when people were saying something like that. One moment they'll be "Men and women should be treated equally" and the next one something like "You don't know how to treat women". Then I'd think to myself "WTF are those monkeys mumbling about?"

I hate that hypocritical shit now and I hated it when I was a little kid.

xTheVyrusx · 2021-10-14T23:40:45+00:00

Granted the women that runs her mouth and gets into an argument then throws her boyfriend or husband into the mix, he gets his ass kicked. Yeah, sure, “make women feel safe”. Nah I’m good “strong independent women” can fend for themselves too.

McFeely_Smackup · 2021-10-15T00:43:33+00:00

I'm not responsible for women's neurosis.

I'm neither causing it, nor fixing it.

EeAreEyeSea · 2021-10-15T01:03:56+00:00

And when a man truly is a victim without a doubt, you won’t see it anywhere on the news. But if a man accidentally bumps a woman while walking passed, it’ll be on headlines

rabel111 · 2021-10-15T01:28:50+00:00

Making women feel safe is not the responsibility of any man. Why would another persons safety be my responsibility just because of their gender. If they feel unsafe it's their problem, not mine. As long as I am not committing a crime, I have no obligation, either ethical or legal, to have any response to their existence.

Similarly, the recent trend of feminists and apologists insisting that men respect women, is also a complete crock. Respecting someone's human rights is not unreasonable, but respecting women has morphed into never disagreeing with them, never departing from the feminist narrative of patriarchial oppression. It has become the new "mansplaining"

63daddy · 2021-10-15T02:23:30+00:00

In the U.S., men are victims of violent crime more than women and 4-5 times more likely to be murdered, yet we focus most of the attention on women’s safety. One of the many examples of gynocentrism.

itchyotcthy · 2021-10-14T19:07:15+00:00

I'm starting to learn why my partner doesn't notice things in the streets; it could have actually saved his life sometimes!!!

Smacktardius · 2021-10-14T22:38:01+00:00

Don't be a White Knight as it could get you killed.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8264395/calgary-fatal-downtown-shooting-victim-suspect/

TracyMorganFreeman · 2021-10-15T00:48:41+00:00

You have to be pretty privileged or out of touch to take *actually being safe* for granted and prioritize simply feeling safe.

dariomenendez · 2021-10-14T11:03:24+00:00

I have conflicting views on this issue. On one hand, yes, why should we be responsible for a woman’s sense of safety? Seems a bit sexist for both ways. But on the other hand, we need to be realistic. 95% of women will get easily defeated by a man, so maybe there’s a point there.

Sabor117 · 2021-10-14T15:11:57+00:00

So, I agree that the media has an unfair bias towards women in reporting things like murder. The whole thing of murder sprees being reported like "4 were killed, including 1 woman" always makes it seem like the murder of the woman is the real tragedy there, and not the three other men who died.

However, I have to say that the initial part of this post is definitively NOT a good argument for unfair treatment of men. Men are far more likely to be murdered than women, that's definitely true, but looking at crime statistics and you will see that the rate of murder is much, much lower than the rate of rape or sexual assault.

Just using the USA as an example: according to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate) it has 4.96 murders per 100k inhabitants per year. Compare that to rape statistics (https://www.statista.com/statistics/232563/forcible-rape-rate-in-the-us-by-state/) which says there are 38.4 rapes per 100k inhabitants per year.

Admittedly this isn't perfect because both the murders and rapes probably include female on female, female on male etc etc, but the main point is: you are FAR more likely to be raped than murdered in the states. And as the majority of rape victims are women, it does make perfect sense that there is a greater focus on the safety of women walking around.

ImNotTheBossOfMe · 2021-10-14T21:23:52+00:00

Correct me if I’m wrong but most men that get hurt/killed/ aren’t they mostly violent people to begin with, whereas women get into harms way by doing nothing. At least where I’m from, most men that are killed are other thugs

Punder_man · 2021-10-14T09:16:53+00:00

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EviX · 2021-10-14T12:17:20+00:00

Men are attacked more often.

By other men.

When women are attacked, its usually by men.

Your logic is sad. If a member of society is in distress, help them out. It'll probably be a chick though...

Panderjit_SinghVV · 2021-10-14T11:21:04+00:00

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scaredofshaka · 2021-10-14T13:42:58+00:00

Traditional values have crept into modern feminism like water out of a ruptured dam, that's why. There used to be schools of self defence with women learning to use high heels as weapons. Now they just ask their allies to defend them.

Mercy9989 · 2021-10-14T14:39:59+00:00

Bro speaking straight facts

BodisBomas · 2021-10-14T15:58:32+00:00

Anyone can feel safe with a firearm on them. The only thing I will do is make sure your right to carry that firearm is protected.

TheSpaceDuck · 2021-10-14T17:08:06+00:00

The best reply to this misandrist remark is: "Only men? What about other groups that are overrepresented in violent crime?" - this either shuts down misandrists on this topic or makes them resort to ad hominem calling you a racist and thus revealing that their original argument was driven by prejudice against a given group.

Statistically, black people are more overrepresented in violent crime than men are. So if you accept the sexist argument that men must "make women feel safe" then you have to accept the racist argument that states the same about black people. Claiming the former and not the latter doesn't make you less of a bigot, just more of a hypocrite.

Falandyszeus · 2021-10-14T17:23:26+00:00

Seems like a ridiculous goal at any rate that they should FEEL safe, rather than BE safe. (As much as is reasonable without living under some totalitarian nanny state...)

1) should they feel safe if they actually aren't? Is it not better then to be aware of the risks? And take precautions.

2) they might be safe but not feel like it. In which case the issue isn't safety but paranoia/misinformation/people who benefit from you feeling unsafe for whatever reason.

Make it as objectively safe as is reasonable (make sure crime is punished, legally allow self defense and effective power equalizers so any non-UNIT of a woman, isn't significantly outmatched strength wise against the average guy... etc) and spread awareness of the actual state of things to counter disinformation.

beyond that it's on them... If you're safe, but feel unsafe, it's not the world that's wrong, it's YOU.

Greg_W_Allan · 2021-10-15T21:20:21+00:00

When womens' feelings are given priority over the actual safety of everyone else we have a problem.

TheHipsterChad · 2021-10-17T20:52:16+00:00

We already have! What do they want NOW?

Keopsfuj · 2021-10-14T20:12:53+00:00

Women are afraid and on guard all the time, even though we men can not understand this.

So yes, all men are responsible for making sure women feel safe but not by protecting them from dangers, (mostly aka) other men. We must make them feel safe by not protecting them at all, except protecting them from ourselves.

Bopikins2600 · 2021-10-14T12:44:05+00:00

Are you suggesting men should “go out of their way” to make men feel safe but not women? Why not create a world where everyone feels safe and free and has access to pursue opportunities without oppression? In order to do that though men need to stop hurting women and maybe just stop hurting people in general. I find it strange that so many individuals on this sub seem to feel so threatened and insulted when women speak up about the way their rights are violated. Holding abusers accountable helps everyone. It’s about shifting the culture so that kind of predatory behavior is deemed unacceptable by everyone. I don’t know that asking to live in a world where men don’t feel entitled to hurt you is the same as asking to be catered too. If you don’t feel threatened by other men then good for you but as you say here your concern is male violence against men. If that really is a concern of yours you might find you have more in common with feminist who want what I’ve described above. It’s possible you’ve been misinformed and it’s never too late to change.

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2021-10-14T11:15:36+00:00

If it's late and you see someone walking alone. Cross the street so they feel more comfortable. Man, woman. Whatever. Men and women are both scared when they have to cross paths with a man at night so we should be focused on making everyone feel more safe.

NimblyBimblyMeyow · 2021-10-15T10:26:25+00:00

So protect men from other men? Because looking at the statistics, men are still more than likely going to be the violent offender compared to women.

How about we just protect people when they’re victims of a violent crime?

Sewud · 2021-10-15T18:55:21+00:00

I think you're confusing where this advice comes from. People tell you that women like to feel safe and protected when dating. Why? Because you'll get more girlfriends that way. Nobody is telling anyone to make the random women they aren't dating "feel safe".

If you mean to complain about the fact that femicide sometimes gets media attention even though more men are killed overall, well that's because femicide is specifically a case of intimate partner violence. It's not just that women get killed, it's that women get killed by an intimate partner. Sometimes the media wants to talk about that. Why? Maybe because there's not enough done about it.

Men are not ignored. A lot of ressources exist to fight male-on-male crime. Police, courts, prison system. Our taxes go to stopping male-on-male crime. Though the prison system is bad for those who are in it, it's where the government puts antisocial men to prevent them from hurting other men outside the prison. There's money funnelled into this. All the people who work to reduce crime are basically protecting mostly men. They are doing their best, and although it's a constant battle, crime rates are lower now.

hogabla · 2021-10-16T15:43:54+00:00

Tbh though it's true men get killed more or assaulted more, I do not think the primary reason is their gender.

And making women feel safe is not because they are gonna get murdered every moment. 97% women get assaulted on streets, catcalled, groped, sexualized and it's a disgusting feeling and that's done by some men that makes women feel extremely unsafe.

I hear you that men's issues are not talked about, but I don't think "make women feel safe" is about taking extra care on them. It's just telling the creepy men to back off.

darkness_c4lls · 2021-10-14T15:09:40+00:00

Men are cannon fodder, women are the breeding stock. Men who don't conform are weak, women who don't conform are prudes. Both should feel safe. Suggesting we should work to make one group feel safe doesn't mean we shouldn't work on the other's safety. I agree that there needs to be a discussion about mens treatment in society but the "all lives matter" style of arguments have always been reductive and unhelpful

gntcc · 2021-10-14T18:57:54+00:00

The problem is that almost noone wants to see through bullshit. Pro tip for all men here, get a dog. There are several reasons but if you for example like taking a walk at night, alone you can be victim of a random pepperspraying witch with her knife in your chest for no reason and be told its your fault for taking a walk alone at night, if you have a dog with you, it's assault.

Title	“Make women feel safe”
Author	day5tar
Upvotes	871
Comments	449
Date	October 14, 2021 8:16 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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