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Candace Bushnell Says SATC Fans 'Should Not Base Their Lives' on the Show: 'Not Very Feminist'

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October 17, 2021
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Title Candace Bushnell Says SATC Fans 'Should Not Base Their Lives' on the Show: 'Not Very Feminist'
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plomerst

Upvotes 112
Comments 19
Date October 17, 2021 9:32 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
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Comments

[–]Geocities_SEO_ExpertFDS STRATEGY COACH 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish there was a big database of every time an actor, author, or musician told fans that their work is either bullshit or not something positive to base your life around. Because there are lots of them.

[–]plomerst[S] 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She says “Men can be very dangerous to women in a lot of different ways.”

[–]Amazing_Wolverine_37FDS Newbie 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I implore anyone who opens this thread to read the article. This reminds me so much of why I am not nostalgic and I just love that some people can adapt even if their work has .... indefensible elements.

[–]ItsFreezenFDS Newbie 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

SATC is awful, I tried to get into it. Instead I watched the show "Girlfriends" because the writing was better.

[–]Mimosa_usagiFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was 12 when SATC came out and I thought that was just how grown up relationships were because I was too young to know better. Girls was unbearable for me, I hated the main character. As an adult I don't really like either show anymore.

[–]PillowzzzFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Love Girlfriends!!

[–]CSardothien_1FDS Newbie 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They tell us this now as they’re filling a third SATC film! 😂

[–]FUBARfromLSAFDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mr. Big was based on Donald Trump before he met Melania. Or maybe afterwards who knows. Candace Bushnell dated him on and off. ‘Nuff said.

[–]Ok-Performance5997FDS Newbie 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sex and the city has always been a steaming pile of shite, and always will be.

[–]huevos_and_whiskeyFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, nowwww they tell us! 🙃

[–]KlutzyCoconut 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s a goofy, ridiculous, delusional, classist, libfem pile of garbage.

[–]blueboobs-FDS Disciple 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I never followed SATC and don’t understand the hatred against it other than that it portrayed successful professional women with great lives doing what they want and going through the standard BS we all do when out in the world as adults. That’s bad? Were the unrealistic parts really that tedious?! It’s a tv show it has to play up a bit of fantasy and glamour.

[–]FUBARfromLSAFDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why don’t you watch it to tell what the hatred is? Just saying…

[–]blueboobs-FDS Disciple 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’ve seen bits and pieces of 2-3 episodes unintentionally because at one point it was everywhere and played constantly on HBO, but what I saw didn’t elicit anything strong in me. I thought it was standard quality HBO writing which is good quality to me (from a writers perspective).

[–]FUBARfromLSAFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For me and others that hate the show- it’s way too white, too obsessed with pinning down a man, the stereotypical gay characters, the inappropriate way men sexually pressured women in the workplace, the Antisemitic jokes, how women pressured other women to do sexual things they weren't comfortable with in order to keep a man, Carrie's excessive entitlement despite her terrible money choices, Mr. Big and Carrie's relationship actually being pretty toxic, the way women were judged for not being married by their 30's, the ageism, the classicism, the girls being okay with Carrie when she cheated on Aiden, even though it wouldn't have been fine if the tables were turned. For me in particular it wasn’t just the whiteness of the show but the way they treated/portrayed black people on the show was just terrible. Black men were their mandingos, and black women were stereotypically combative, racist, or just didn’t exist until the narrative was convenient.

[–]blueboobs-FDS Disciple 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh wow!! Ok that makes a lot of sense and tracks with the racial blind spots of other popular shows of the time like friends, or Seinfeld...

[–]Some-Air9442FDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Basically imagine a show where the characters break every FDS concept almost every episode. It is a libfem mess.

Also all they ever talk about or obsess about is dating and men.

[–]ccro7FDS Newbie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The show is more feminist than a lot of people think. The first 2 seasons alone contain a lot of FDS-style sentiments and sound bytes. I'd never seen the first 2 seasons until recently and I was expecting them to be very bad and out of date but I was pleasantly surprised.

[–]Adventurous_River_64FDS Newbie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that the show is not great for young women. I used to watch the reruns as a teen and it definitely did not help me with my development or self confidence.

I do appreciate it more in my late twenties though. I think that the friendships are realistic. I also think that the characters are supposed to be very flawed and are definitely not written as aspirational characters. It makes me happy to see women my age and older exploring life and sexuality together. Also the fashions!!

I will say that parts of it have definitely not aged well but overall it accomplished a lot for its time.

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