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Mandatory DNA Testing | Men's Rights

maxlvb

January 11, 2022

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Title	Mandatory DNA Testing \| Men's Rights
Author	maxlvb
Upvotes	96
Comments	153
Date	January 11, 2022 11:42 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/s1r8n6/mandatory_dna_testing_mens_rights/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/mandatory-dna-testing-mens-rights.1095784 https://theredarchive.com/post/1095784

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https://news.un.org/en/story/2011/12/397192-un-launches-plan-accelerate-male-circumcision-aids-prevention-africa

Recent modelling commissioned by PEPFAR and UNAIDS found that reaching 80 per cent coverage of adult VMMC in the 14 priority countries would entail performing about 20 million circumcisions on men aged between 15 and 49 by 2015.

15 year boy counts as minor to me... UN is engaging in circumcision of minor boys.. Without their consent.

More evidence...

https://home.crin.org/latest/the-african-resistance-to-mass-circumcision-campaign#:~:text=Then%20suddenly%20we%20heard%20over,uncircumcised%20communities%20across%20the%20continent.

12 year old boy.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/africans-speak-out-against-the-mass-circumcision-campaign-300370353.html

They are even using misleading campaign tools...
A consent obtain by misappropriation of facts is not a valid consent.. Even if its done in adults..

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Not because I say so but because I had genetic screening done and know what data/medical history I had to provide so that the genetic researcher was able to make sense out of it…..and that was with specific questioning. In other words they knew what they where looking for.

So you're saying ancestral DNA testing companies are how real DNA testing is done? Really??? 🤣🤣🤣

Here's a thing for you to mull over. The rest of the world has medical and public health systems that aren't anything like USA's For Profit health services.

What all of you guys constantly ignore is that there are laws in place for paternity testing…..you can have it done, nobody stops you.

We dont all live in the good ol USA.

France does. It's illegal to get a paternity test in France.

Feminism:Equality, when convenient.

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No. It is exactly as I present it.

Why do you think it is important if the hospital switched the kid? What the fuck difference does it make if the woman leaves the hospital with her own child or some random switched child? Should a woman be upset that the child she is raising is not her own child if the hospital gives her a random baby instead of her own biological child? Should the mother in this case be able to have any complaint, raising a child she thought was hers when in fact it wasn't?

Should we just say "Well, she has a legal right to test it if she wants to."?

Does it matter if you raise your own child or some random child you are told is your child but in fact is not?

Are you allowed to be upset if the hospital gives you a random baby instead of the baby you are biologically related to?

This is the dilemma all potential or supposed fathers face.

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You want to make the hospital responsible for something they have no hand in at all.

They have had a hand in it, as they are the place of birth, and therefore they have a responsibility to ensure the baby goes to the proper biological parent. It is not acceptable to give a random baby to a mother. There are rules in place to ensure the mother gets her proper baby. I suggest the same should be done for fathers.

If they give the wrong baby to a mother, and the mother takes that baby home and begins to raise that baby as if it were her own, then later finds out the baby isn't the biological child of the mother, the mother can sue the hospital. It is considered negligent on the part of the hospitals if they allow a baby to go home with the wrong biological parent, if that parent in question is the mother. I have already posted links to news reports of such lawsuits elsewhere in this thread. It has happened often enough that laws have been put in place and new procedures are followed in hospitals specifically to address this problem, but for mothers only. I suggest the same should be done for fathers.

For equality, the same consideration and care should be taken for fathers. For exactly the same reasons as the mothers cited, in that it is traumatizing to find out that the child you have been raising that you thought was yours was in fact not. If hospitals have this responsibility to mothers, as it has already been proven they legally do, then I feel they should also have this same responsibility to fathers. Parental verification needs to be done at the hospital where the baby is born, because that is where it can be done, and it needs to be done for not just mothers but fathers too.

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To me, this is one of the biggest issues for Men's Rights. Mandatory DNA testing for all newborns should begin immediately. There is no reason to deny this, other than to cover up for infidelity. Rules are already in place, and have been for decades, to ensure that the biological child leaves the hospital with the biological mother. The same needs to be done for biological fathers. No man should ever be named the father unless DNA results prove it.

In the past, women have successfully sued hospitals when a mix-up happened and they accidentally brought home a baby that was not their own biological child. It is considered traumatic when a mother unknowingly is raising a child that she thought was hers but in fact was not.

Fathers deserve the same considerations. It is just as damaging to men. Perhaps men need to start suing hospitals until this change is made.

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Exactly the same thing that a woman would sue a hospital for in such a case. Emotional trauma would be the easiest to prove, I would expect. There is precedence when women are affected. Some similar cases:

https://fox59.com/news/national-world/california-women-carry-birth-wrong-babies-due-to-fertility-clinic-mix-up/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58474478

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/may99/baby25.htm

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/la-couple-sue-reproductive-health-center-over-wrong-baby/2752927/

Those above are recent cases. Many many more cases can be researched for anyone who feels this isn't a problem. Google it.

If it is not ok for women to unknowingly raise a random child that is not their own biological child, then it follows that it is also not ok for a man to unknowingly raise a random child that is not their own biological child. Same shit. Otherwise, why don't they just hand out random babies to any person who claims to be a parent at hospitals?

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