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Woman celibrates turning 21 by getting drunk and stabs an innocent man in the head with her stiletto. pleads guilty, recieves a $174 fine and no convictions.

introspectthis

May 22, 2022
1817 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title Woman celibrates turning 21 by getting drunk and stabs an innocent man in the head with her stiletto. pleads guilty, recieves a $174 fine and no convictions.
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introspectthis

Upvotes 1817
Comments 187
Date May 22, 2022 3:22 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/uv2igr/woman_celibrates_turning_21_by_getting_drunk_and/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/1119026
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Comments

[–]WiiWynn 473 points474 points475 points 4 years ago (55 children) | Copy Link

Is there no irreparable consequence that a woman can cause and still believe ‘being drunk’ is an acceptable defense? And why the fuck is it still being accepted in this day and age?

[–]jusee22 194 points195 points196 points 4 years ago* (43 children) | Copy Link

I have never understood how we treat drunk people.

On one hand a drunken assault is just as bad as a normal one (if you're a man) and drunk driving is punishable because that person made the decision to drive while drunk. So people are responsible for their own actions right?

But if a woman has consensual sex while drunk suddenly people arent responsible for their own actions.

Very inconsistent.

[–]Drain-OHs 53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Our entire judicial system is corrupt and a mess. All of it. Best bet is to live a life of solitude off grid with just your family. Cuz society is now a barrel full of fish being shot at random.

[–]Killahdanks1 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This was in Australia. So theirs is messed up too.

[–]Drain-OHs 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes indeed. Many countries.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She got less of a fine and treated better then I did when I crashed my car blackout drunk 4 years ago I was on my own on a road nobody drives on because It’s a pain in the arse so nobody was hurt apart from a hedge!! She almost kills a guy and gets away with it completely free that shit doesn’t make sense

[–]introspectthis[S] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

She got less of a fine than forgetting to wear a seatbeslt costs..

Edited to add: In the comments u/toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[+]lovegrug -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hope you got your shit together by now.. idiot

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t make that comparison. Drunk sex is not the same as being stabbed because you met a hot stranger and he was psychotic.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

If you are drunk you can’t consent but you are still responsible for hurting another. I agree the lady in the story should go to jail for what she did. But someone taking advantage of a drunk person is fairly distinct from a drunk person assaulting another.

If you have any worries about it the person you might hook up with is too drunk, and that might lead to rape allegations, wait until a time where they are sober and talk it out. Protect yourself and limit harm done to yourself and others by being aware of your environment and your limitations.

[–]InterestingStation70 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

"If you are drink you can't consent"

Apparently that only applies to half the population. Men get blamed if the woman's drunk, but women never get blamed if the man's drink. In all four possible combinations of drunk or not drink women and men men get blamed.

[+]Same_Dingo2318 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

If a woman raped a man who was drunk, it’s rape. I don’t know what your life is, but if someone sticks their dick into you when you are drunk or sucks you, you might need to go to the police.

Also, I said if you were worried it, DON’T DO IT.

Just keep it in your pants for the sober ones. I never have been accused of raping a drunk woman. I don’t sleep with them. Super easy.

[–]InterestingStation70 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's not my point. My point is that men get blamed whether or not they're drunk and whether or not the women is drunk. Yes, I've seen men accused of rape when they were drunk and a sober woman slept with them consensuallly.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you have the penis and are doing the penetrating, society does blame you if you’re getting sexual when either party is drunk. If you are drunk like this woman in the post, you should go to jail for what you did while drunk. If you rape while drunk it’s still rape.

If I was drunk and someone shoved something inside of me, male or female, I’m calling the cops. I’m sorry for your experience with female/male dynamics. I’m recovering from abuse from my female ex of 12 years. I get how men are treated in this society.

I’m trying to protect young dudes from getting wrapped up in a bad situation, bro.

[–]InterestingStation70 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"If you have the penis and are doing the penetrating, society does blame you if you're getting sexual when either party is drunk."

Have you ever heard of "Made to Penetrate"? Any definition of rape that doesn't include that is sexist and misandric.

Thank you for your work, good sir.

[–]Tayaradga 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I've been accused of raping a girl I never slept with. Proved my innocents and i was still the one punished. Society does not treat both genders equally, especially in court cases.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Never disputed that. Not sure what you mean here. If women do what you suggest, then avoiding the situation all together, like you did, is literally the best option.

[–]Tayaradga 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean? I avoided the situation and was still punished. Im not suggesting anything, im straight up saying the court system is messed up when gender is involved.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

If you hadn’t avoided it, you would have been in worse trouble. Which I pointed out that you DID avoid it. I’m get the legal system is biased, which is why we avoid this crap. Even if, sometimes, we still get falsely accused. If you didn’t do it, then proving you did will be difficult.

[–]Tayaradga 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I mean.... She didn't have to prove I was guilty, i had to prove i was innocent. Everyone assumed she was telling the truth straight from the start. I guess im confused on what you mean by "avoided it". I avoided the charge yes, but I did not avoid the interaction as a whole.

[–]KingKC612 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's makes sense for people who don't drink like me. But most people are social drinkers, so if you're drinking with a woman and y'all end up having consensual sex, she can still feign responsibility.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that still falls under not putting my erect penis somewhere I’m not sure about.

[–]Junglejibe -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're gonna get hella downvoted on here but this is king shit. It's not that fucking hard to just not sleep with drunk people. If you're tipsy and someone's drunk, don't sleep with them. If you're tipsy and someone's blackout, don't sleep with them. I've been pretty drunk before and am still able to easily tell when someone else is completely out of it, and guess what? I never even want to sleep with them.

Some people on here are just rapists and don't like facing the reality that their past actions were wrong. It's easier to say the sex was consensual and society just babies women than it is to admit that you knew someone only had one foot in reality when you had sex with them.

[–]SuchAnIdiot45 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You can absolutely consent while drunk. If I'm wasted and I get a slice of pizza on the walk home, did the pizza shop rob me? They took my money while my mind was in an altered state, so that's robbery, right? No. I made the decision to drink and then I drunkenly made the decision to get pizza. It might have been a bad decision and I might regret it the next day, but no one forced me.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Did some stranger pull down your pants when you couldn’t say no and shoved the pizza inside of your body? No care if you need lubricant or not. Just shoving that za strait up into you until they are satisfied. Do you wake up the next day with proof there was a pizza shoved into you without your consent? What about the chance of pizza pregnancy?

Sounds dumb, huh?

[–]SuchAnIdiot45 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You're conflating being drunk and being passed out. But the pizza example still works!

If on the way home, I pass out and somebody takes the money from my pocket and leaves me a slice of pizza, then I have been robbed. I didn't decide to buy the pizza, someone forced me to. But if I was drunk, I still had a choice. The alcohol just lowered my inhibitions and made me hungry, but I didn't have to get pizza.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I just responded to this on your other comment, but for clarification, no to this. This is a rapist’s logic and it has no place on a subreddit for Men’s Rights. Men can be raped too, in case you didn’t know. Being drunk is definitionally preclusion for consent. I’m not saying “tipsy” I’m saying “drunk.” And if you are going about telling young men to fuck drunk people, you are making rapists out of ignorant men who need guidance.

[–]SuchAnIdiot45 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I have been raped (while I was passed out). I've also had sex while drunk many times and these are nowhere near the same thing.

I'm not telling men to try to pick up drunk people, there's nothing gendered about this. If you're sober and trying to get a sober person to make a bad choice, that's unethical.

But I'm saying that if you get drunk, you're still responsible for what you do in that state. If you're going to make bad choices, whether it's to drive, have unprotected sex, or just make dumb purchases, you can't expect others to stop you. Instead, you shouldn't get so drunk that you do things you regret.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds rapey still. Whatever you want dude. I don’t care anymore.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That’s horrible logic. Wake up with a dick having been inside you or a pizza is way two different things. Just no dude.

[–]SuchAnIdiot45 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sure, it's different, but the same principle still applies: you're responsible for what you do when you're drunk. If you make a poor choice, whether that's to buy overpriced pizza or have unprotected sex, that's still on you.

[–]Same_Dingo2318 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You aren’t talking about doing something while drunk. You are talking about someone else doing some things to you when you can’t say no. Being drunk does affect your decision making abilities, so no, you can’t consent. I’m not arguing that point. It’s a fact.

If you hurt someone while drunk, that’s on your head. Someone does something to you when you are drunk and sober you doesn’t like it, well that other person fucked up.

You are arguing a classic rapist’s argument. A bad one.

[–]SuchAnIdiot45 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sex is not someone doing something to you. It's a two-way action. Drunk people are still perfectly capable of saying no to it as well as enthusiastic consent. In your mind, what happens if two drunk people have sex? Have they both raped each other?

[–]Same_Dingo2318 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is another rapist’s argument. I’m not entertained by this. Drunk people can’t consent. It’s legally non compis mentis. You are being entirely irresponsible with these outlooks. I sincerely hope you are not out there trying to get accused of rape.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Being drunk is now an acceptable defense in Canada

You read that right

[–]Foolbish 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

what? how?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look it up the highest court decided that

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look it up the highest court decided that

[–]introspectthis[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments u/toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–][deleted] 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Tech1101 100 points101 points102 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you retarded?

[+]FH-7497 -41 points-40 points-39 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yo why are you insulting r/wallstreetbets by comparing them to this asshole? LoL

[–]fiercealmond 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah my favorite times to have sex are when I'm losing blood due to stab wounds. Gets me so hot

[–]introspectthis[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First of all.. i hope you're just some kind of troll.. secondly, In the comments u/toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]AnonymousEbe_new 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being drunk is THE reason to penalize not the opposite!

[–]romeripley 75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think there was a case elsewhere in Australia from years ago, where a woman used a stiletto through another woman’s eye. Not sure what the punishment was if they found her. How ridiculous, the poor guy. “That’s not me” if she did damage, does that matter?

[–]Nixthebitx 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got a flashback to Single White Female reading this

[–]introspectthis[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]toybits 139 points140 points141 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

From the woman.

“It was a drunken act,” she told Nine News. “It was my 21st birthday and it’s not me. I don’t know why I did that and I wasn’t in the right mind frame.”

Now replace them with a man stabbing a woman.

[–]ABeeBox 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I bet she's an empath.

[–]toybits 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a YouTube video of a journalist confronting her on the street in 2019. Not sure mum and dad would be proud...

EDIT: Sorry should have included a link.

https://youtu.be/C1aDXZOLe9U

[–]introspectthis[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow I had no idea there was a followup like this- it adds so much more perspective.. really fucking highlights the multiple points of disgusting this shit is/ how remorseless she is

[–]EternallyGrowing 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's basically a female Brock Turner.

[–]Puzzleheaded-Heat174 106 points107 points108 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

As someone who lives in the same state that this incident took place (Queensland Australia) the most outrageous thing about this is that she received a fine less then what you would get for not having a seatbelt on while driving after she almost blinded him

[–]xsplizzle 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Is it even news over there? like has it randomly come up in conversation with neighbours?

[–]Puzzleheaded-Heat174 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is the second time I have heard this story come up the first time I heard it from an Australian youtuber called Sydney watson about 3 years ago

[–]Shadowdragon409 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love Sydney Watson. I haven't seen any of her recent videos though. Last I heard she was living in Texas. I hope she doesn't regret that decision

[–]Puzzleheaded-Heat174 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently she moved from DC to Texas because it's a shit state but I wouldn't know

[–]introspectthis[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]Puzzleheaded-Heat174 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't really watch the news is both extremely biased and they lie on a nightly basis every time 7 news covers a domestic violence story they always end the story with something like "and if you are in a domestic violence situation you can call this number women's helpline and if you are a man who thinks he is at risk of becoming an abuser call this number"

[–]DirtyPartyMan 115 points116 points117 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And if she got the beat down?

Yyyyeah

[–]RueRuS 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Death Sentence, AFTER being Castrated.

[–]introspectthis[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–][deleted] 161 points162 points163 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

https://www.change.org/p/brisbane-courts-increase-the-punishment-for-woman-who-stabbed-man-with-stiletto

[–]introspectthis[S] 64 points65 points66 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Signed!

[–]groarmon 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You can't be judged twice for the same crime... I'm afraid. It's useless. Signed though.

[–]mikesteane 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She'll commit more offences.

[–]Shadowdragon409 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not in America, but in Australia?

[–]DeepMidWicket 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is 3 years old, ship's sailed on this one.

[–]VeritasDitum 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So have I.

[–]pocketknifeMT 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta sign the petition to make petitions matter first.

[–]Nixthebitx 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Signed

[–]Mormanade 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This petition is 3 years old, would sighing even do anything?

[–]pocketknifeMT 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No, never. But that is true even if it was a new one. Petitions are worse than pointless. They give people a false sense that they're doing something.

[–]Realistic-Specific27 -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

don't listen to people that tell you things are useless. countless petitions have had results.

[–]pocketknifeMT 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Name even one.

[–]Realistic-Specific27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Google "successful petitions" and you'll get all sorts. You just going "petitions don't work" is just words coming out of your mouth.

Or maybe you just don't understand how petitions work. I imagine you're under the impression that you expect signatures to turn into magic fairies that change the world for the better.

Except they are meant to drive policy change, bring attention to things, etc

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/22/us/top-petitions-decade-change-trnd/index.html

https://www.change.org/l/us/change-org-releases-top-ten-petitions-that-changed-2020

https://ecojustice.ca/do-petitions-work/

[–]pocketknifeMT 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All of those examples aren't because of petitions, but other things that happened concurrently. Protests, civil unrest, etc.

Nobody was like, justice for George Floyd? well, even though all these people are protesting and literally setting cities on fire, it's this petition that really pushed it over the edge.

These arguments are like saying umbrella use drives raincoat use

[+]312Michelle -20 points-19 points-18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree that what happened is fucked up.

But would increasing jail time really be a good thing and would it make society better?

Doesn't he have many good points?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMAKkUO-HnA

[–]Golgaman 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. It would make society better, because you know damn good and well that not in a million years could a man stab someone in the head and not only be able to get away with excusing their actions were because they were drunk, but a man also would never only get a fine for something like this.

Women should not get leniency for their crimes, and her being judged the same way the judge would have judged a man would be a sign of the judicial system working fairly and correctly. This is just another example of how fucking broken everything is.

[–][deleted] 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]widal 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Poor Gaius 😕

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/bo36do/woman_who_only_got_250_fine_for_drunkenly/

[–]introspectthis[S] 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (47 children) | Copy Link

Well shit, I guess it had been posted here when it happened.. I only just stumbled acrossed it.. pretty sad that shit like this is only seeming to happen more and more, and with equally upsetting "consequences"

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (46 children) | Copy Link

It is straight out terrifying. Worst part is that after 3 years, the partition to change this haven’t reached even a 1000 signatures

[+]matrixislife -29 points-28 points-27 points 4 years ago (45 children) | Copy Link

She hit him with a shoe. What's a reasonable punishment for that?

[–]skellious 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

stabbed him with an offensive weapon.

[+]matrixislife -29 points-28 points-27 points 4 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

Almost as bad as the article for trying to overstate the case. Yeah, it was a stilleto heel, and yes she deserved punishment for that. Which she got. Imo she did deserve a criminal conviction however.

They can't charge her with having an offensive weapon because that would put a whole sector of the clothing industry out of work. You could also describe a pen as an offensive weapon using the same logic. It just doesn't wash.

[–]TheProclaimed99 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Committing assault deserves more punishment than a small fine

[–]matrixislife -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup.

[–]Fearless-File-3625 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

offensive weapon because that would put a whole sector of the clothing industry out of work

Why ?

Yeah, it was a stilleto heel, and yes she deserved punishment for that. Which she got.

So $180 is the price for seriously assaulting someone.

She need at least 1 year in prison and more in probation.

[–]matrixislife -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why ?

Because the shoe industry would lose it's haute couture section, not being allowed to produce stilletto heels anymore, as they would now be considered offensive weapons.

It's the price of an assault. I'd say it's on the very limit of under-sentencing, and she should have got more, as I said, a criminal conviction at least. I'm not even attempting to argue differently, my issue with this whole thing is that she didn't stab him with a knife, she hit him with a shoe. The headlines for all of these are massively over-dramatised and people in this sub have fallen for it the 3 times this has been posted in the last week.

Problem is, when we say "come to the sub, we're not as bad as you think" it makes us look like idiots to the rest of the world, and a whole bunch of people will use these comments to villify the MRM.
"Oh look, a woman hit someone with a shoe, they want her locking up". See how it works?

[–]Fearless-File-3625 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

my issue with this whole thing is that she didn't stab him with a knife, she hit him with a shoe

That type of shoe has been used to murder someone. Anyways, why does it matter whether a knife or a shoe was used to assault someone ?

[–]matrixislife -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Read the last paragraph of my reply above.

[–]skellious 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

In the UK both of those are offensive weapons. anything is an offensive weapon if used as such.

[–]matrixislife -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

And I'm sure in Ghana or somewhere else neither are. This occured in Australia, UK law is irrelevant.

[–]skellious 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

you know Australia based it's law on UK law, right?

there is a lot of shared case law, so even though one doesn't have a direct effect on the other they are connected.

but aside from that, the ethical arguments remain valid. Australia is very similar to the UK in many ways. much more so than it is to the US.

[–]matrixislife 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

She didn't get charged with carrying an offensive weapon, it's irrelevant.

[–]LostSoul1601 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So you mean knife manufacturing as kitchen tools will stop if someone uses a knife to stab someone? OMG!! /s

[–]matrixislife -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Knives are treated as offensive weapons. If you go out the house with one you can be arrested. Now imagine that with a pair of shoes.

[–]LostSoul1601 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In my country, it is not illegal if the blade is shorter than 4 inches. Not talking about cleavers here.

[–]matrixislife -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So how many stilletto heels have you seen that are shorter than 4 inches?

[–]CamtheRulerofAll 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

bit stabbed, big difference

[–]matrixislife -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

With a shoe. It's not a Bond movie.

[–]himynameis2442 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

She still stabbed a guy. Are you seriously defending a bitch like this?

[–]matrixislife -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm not trying to defend her at all. I think she should have received a criminal conviction for wounding if nothing else.

I've never seen anyone ever described as "stabbed with a shoe" outside a Bond film, it makes the people in this sub sound like idiots. I object to that.

[–]Golgaman 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You can’t wrap your head around what the definition of stab is, but you’re calling other people idiots? 🤔

[–]matrixislife -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm saying it makes all of us look like idiots. You as well.

[–]leavingcarton 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He should sue the living shit out of her

[–]Nixthebitx 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. I dont know the statute of limitations on this considering it happened 3 years ago, so at minimum, he should sue the hell out of her. There's absolutely no excuse for her doing this, even less excuse for her getting away with it unscathed, and no reason he shouldn't be compensated for it.

[–]leavingcarton 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This👆!

[–]introspectthis[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]Dispositionate 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The fact that they describe her as a "feisty felon" and tagged it as "weird but true" makes me the most angry. It's not "weird" at all, it's just straight up assault.

[–]introspectthis[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]pocketknifeMT 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She's not a felon though?

[–]Dispositionate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What is she then, if not a violent criminal?

[–]pocketknifeMT 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A felon is charge with, and convicted of, a felony.

[–]Dispositionate 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So your big takeaway from this isn't about them making her seem less dangerous than she is by using cuddly terminology for her, it's about the technicality of the word they used?

[–]pocketknifeMT 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole point is that she should be a felon, as she committed what is normally a felony. But not in this case, because reasons.

[–]NouveauALaVille 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but you don't understand. Living in a patriarchal framework made her prone to lashing out. So really he needs to apologize to her for the toxic masculinity and pay her a fine to compensate for the wage gap /s

[–]Fearless-File-3625 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Australia is totally fucked.

[–]Captain_Joke 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It should be attempted murder. My sister says this too and she is a lawyer.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Just imagined if he had retaliated with a reasonable amount of force.

Also, not a single word of apology towards her victim. Everything she says is about her and her imagine. What a C*nt.

[–]introspectthis[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah jesus christ. Society is broken.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“[I’m] devastated to be honest,” Johns said. “If the roles were reversed would I be getting pretty much the same slap on the wrist?”

If the roles were reversed, he'd get an extended prison sentence because he was drunk. But somehow if women are drunk, it stops being an aggravating circumstance and the "I'm baby" argument is valid. Sexist laws and practices to the core.

[–]T_Rash 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If the roles were reversed he would have had white knights beating his ass right then and there

[–]Z0mb13z_0f_54nd 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And still sentenced to 5+ years in prison with $10k+ in bail/fines.

[–]Aimless-Nomad 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

ALLOW ME TO FURTHER RUIN YOUR DAY GENTLEMEN.

[–]Aimless-Nomad 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

u/introspectthis

[–]introspectthis[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The time: 11:31AM

Breakfast: bagel with cream cheese and a glass of milk A shot of skrewball and a tall boy twisted tea.

My eyes: Bloodshot and dry for no tears are left to cry.

My Day: Sufficiently ruined.

You delivered exactly what you promised. Thanks, I hate it.

I wish someone would put together every document incident of shit like this they come across into one folder, as enormous as it is sickening, that could be linked to when people say, "All you're doing is trying to devalue real victims", "It happens so rarely it's insane you're acting like it's some kind of regular issue", "the few times it happens aww poor baby had a smoll taste of the fear women go through daily and ended up having nothing bad happen to them in the end" or any of the many other manipulative, gas lighting, shaming etc fucking etc things brought up when someone tries to mention this kind of shit..

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[–]introspectthis[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments ul/toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]gckman915 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She's lucky I don't make the laws because intoxicated or not, she's guilty and would be spending 10 years in the slammer, and not in nice conditions.

[–]introspectthis[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]skellious 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If she'd hit him elsewhere on the head he could have died instantly. Is his life really worth just $174?

[–]introspectthis[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]skellious 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

damn. good journalist though.

[–]sherhil 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a bitch. The fact of the matter is white women can never do wrong. Fined for stabbing. A year for bullying someone to kill themselves. Won’t ever be different. Not even in the workplace. Always getting away w shit and promoted when they usually don’t know what they’re doing. Just overconfident and obnoxious

[–]Suddenly_Sisyphus42 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the actual fuck?

[–]Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Australia for the win 🏆 with weird ass shit happening constantly.

[–]Boeijen666 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Now that the Labor (far -left) party won the election last night, whatever men's rights we had left here in Australia will be erased. Last time Labor was in, man-hating Julia Gillard removed perjury for women who lie in court.

We're completely fucked

[–]whte_rbtobj 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit, that is insane. I want to believe you based on what I’ve heard about some in the Australian government recently but I haven’t been able to find any source confirming this, other than one relating to a Family Court concern: https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=CHAMBER;id=chamber/hansards/a3a8dfe1-27c9-4c71-a8ec-1fe1cc2461a0/0038;query=Id:%22chamber/hansards/a3a8dfe1-27c9-4c71-a8ec-1fe1cc2461a0/0000%22

Do you have a source on this?

[–]RedBaronYT33 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If a man got drunk and stabbed a girl what would his sentence be?

[–]Stupidity_Rules 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Super harsh, hell even a slap would land us in more trouble than this "individual".

[–]introspectthis[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]TheSpaceDuck 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course it had to be Australia.

[–]Historical-Ad6120 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mistakes are mistakes, but consequences should still be in place.

My husband's ex trashed his house and keyed his cars but the judge didn't want to "ruin her life" over this one mistake, so nothing happened. Couldn't make anything stick bc it wasn't recorded.

[–]Optimal_Zebra_7880 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least the judge had a happy ending.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is so stupid all over the world women aren’t held accountable for their actions

[–]kaicyr21 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope her stiletto is ok

[–]Theapexfighter 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She should be in prison FOR YEARS!

[–]No-Feedback7437 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Judicial hypocrisy 😞😞😞😞😞

[–]johnnygluebag 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The idiots who wrote that story should realize that a “stiletto” is a knife, not a woman’s shoe ffs. The shoe was named after the knife. It reads like she stabbed him in the face with a knife.

[–]introspectthis[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments u/toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]MixxMaster 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*celebrates

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That makes no sense. Where is this? Australian woman so Australia? Nypost so New York? That's crazy scary.

[–]introspectthis[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

celibrates

Spambot, or someone celebrating being celibate...

[+]coffeeinvenice -39 points-38 points-37 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Story is from three years ago. This is just outrage bait.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Is there any reason to think that a similar case would be handled better today?

[+]coffeeinvenice -18 points-17 points-16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You haven't been following the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard civil trial?

[–]himynameis2442 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes and amber was taken at face value with literally zero evidence. Got Johnny Depp fired and he had to fight back with the millions he could spare just so he could finally be believed and he will still probs loose the case. Stop being sexist for a sec and actually look at what's happening

[+]coffeeinvenice -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop being sexist for a sec and actually look at what's happening

The thread author posted a story from three years ago. Look who's talking.

[–]TitanicPat 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How recent do instances of gynocentrist injustice need to be, in order to satisfy you?

What are your rules on people who were not yet aware of such articles? Is it okay for them to observe the overt pro female bias, or have they just missed the boat?

How do you feel about feminist framing of "historical oppression" are they just outrage baiting? Or do you apply more lenient rules in that case?

[–]coffeeinvenice -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Story is from three years ago. It's just outrage bait. Low-hanging fruit. You know this or you wouldn't be so upset at my comment.

Man-haters have consistently reached back to academic studies from 20 years ago or more to claim things like discrepancies in admissions to universities and grad schools by gender. Current data shows that more women than men are being admitted to universities. It's current data showing the current status of men in university. And current data and examples do more to help the status of men than reaching for anecdotal stories from three years ago.

[–]introspectthis[S] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did you know about this before today? I sure as fuck didn't and I assumed, correctly it seems, very few others hadn't as well.. But you're right, only the freshest horrible shit should have awareness brought to it. I mean, it's not like this type of thing has become a gross and common issue, or that bringing to light examples of it brings a better understanding of its commonality/ potential severity..

Yeah, nah, it's just rAgE bAiT

[+]coffeeinvenice -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Recycling outrage bait doesn't really help men's rights. If there is something new to the story since it came out, such as a second offense by the same person or a lawsuit by the victim, that would be relevant.

[–]PhatJohny 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry, but is the story anything short of outrageous?

[–]coffeeinvenice 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why it's called 'outrage porn'.

[+]OzoneLaters -31 points-30 points-29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She really messed Jared Kushner up.

[–]Sift-shift123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do we expect !!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet a civil suit would be profitable.

[–]sickcheesecake 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What in the goddamn hell.

[–]312Michelle 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is fucked up, yo!

[–]Kryptic_Tron 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Alive?

[–]introspectthis[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, thankfully he's alive.. In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong . I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]the-first12 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What about the civil court options for the victim?

Can he sue her?

[–]Drain-OHs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was just tipsy teehee. If a man did that =ATTEMPT AT MURDER ! CASE CLOSED!

[–]Gothiks 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anarcho-Tyranny is a form of Dystopia where a state permits or encourages Anarchy Is Chaos in limited form, either out of laziness or some more malevolent motive, while decent people are suppressed.

[–]savemeihatemyjob 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No way this is real news? Australia is feminism on steroids

[–]introspectthis[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the comments /toybits pointed out there was a follow up video a local news station did about this, interviewing (at least trying to) all involved.. and in case you thought this case couldn't be any more unfair or disgusting, you're wrong (that's link to an actual news channel covering this story not long after it happene). I'm copy and pasting this throughout this post so as many others can see it as possible.

[–]Flimsy_Tiger 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Humpty Dumpty fell off a wall, all the kings horses and all the kings men, “The teen was rushed to the hospital, where doctors stapled his head back together” again

[–]Icy_adel 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why in islam alcohol is haram.

[–]Jarrah965 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That seriously makes me worry for my safety when I see Karen's around now.

[–]FrenlyNeiborhoodDude 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

did, you just- repost my post after a day?

[–]sidhvin21 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine if a man did the same rip 2 him💀

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