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What happened to feminism? Why is now favoritism, instead of equality?

terrarialord201

August 24, 2022
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https://www.unwomen.org/en/news/stories/2014/9/emma-watson-gender-equality-is-your-issue-too

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Title What happened to feminism? Why is now favoritism, instead of equality?
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terrarialord201

Upvotes 82
Comments 41
Date August 24, 2022 6:48 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/wwreq8/what_happened_to_feminism_why_is_now_favoritism/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/what-happened-to-feminism-why-is-now-favoritism.1129503
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Found on r/memes, of all places. Removed 4 hours later.

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October 24, 2022
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Found on r/memes, of all places. People are starting to realize!

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[–]EmirikolWoker 52 points53 points54 points 3 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

"The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyrranny over her."

  • Declaration of Sentiments, first-wave feminism.

It was anti-male from the start.

[–]WingsofSky 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Power at all costs.

[+]Educational_Bet_6606 -9 points-8 points-7 points 3 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

There were radicals but overall it wasn't bad.

It really went downhill in the late 60s.

[–]EmirikolWoker 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism throughout history is predicated on the belief of class warfare between men and women with men winning, shorthanded as "Patriarchy", which is inherrently anti-male when you examine what needs to be true for it to accurately describe reality. Feminists can claim that it's "just about equality", or that it was necessary a long time ago, but it's equality based on bigotted assumptions, presuming psychopathy on the part of men as a class.

[–]accidental_me 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In many ways a typical hate movement.

[–]TAPriceCTR 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

really? so feminists had nothing to do with inventing child support to return custodial responsibility to the father after having taken custodial rights from him with caroline norton's tender years doctrine?

[+]reverbiscrap -10 points-9 points-8 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The Women and Infants Act was the end of Patriarchy.

[–]FatJesus15 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If that's the case, what are feminists fighting? Who's their boogyman? If the patriarchy has been ended, then what is the point of feminism? They would have nobody left to blame for their "social standing" in this patriarchal world

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of people do not understand what 'Patriarchy' is. It is 'Rule of the FATHER'. The Women and Infants Act of 1836 placed the ownership of children in the hands of the mother, rather than the father as it was prior.

Feminism, on the whole, fought for the 'rights' enjoyed by the top 10% of men (such as franchisement) without the accorded responsibilities that was supposed to be legally upheld for those rights. Even the vote today, for men, requires signing up for Selective Service, and women are not required to do so, NEVER wanted to, and have repeatedly fought against it when the topic comes around.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you read my statement I specifically mentioned early feminism. Are you fine with women voting etc?

I've heard about that doctrine but I don't know when exactly it was enforced. I think in the 60s

[–]TAPriceCTR 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Early feminism is Caroline Norton and the tender years doctrine changing default custody from the father to the mother. Then shortly there after inventing child support. You're about 100 years late for "early feminism".

As for women voting... the fact that they got the tender years doctrine pushed through before they had the right to vote proves that women have political power even without the vote (because men in power are eager to advantage women proving the patriarchy of feminist imagination false). Now if only women could be required to accept the responsibilities men must to get the right to vote.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting to know.

[–]TheSnesLord 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

overall it wasn't bad.

Ah yes, telling black men to sit at the back of buses and handing out white feathers to shame boys and men.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I said nothing about race issues. I specifically mentioned that early FEMINISM wasn't overall bad.

Also what's this white feather stuff I keep seeing on reddit?

[–]TheSnesLord 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This just goes to show on how completely clueless you are and why you're not qualified to speak on the topic of feminism.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Just because I don't know everything, doesn't mean I'm not qualified. Many of my answers on this sub regarding feminism are valid.

You still haven't answered the question of what is a white feather?

[–]Ju5tc411m3A 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A period where women went to every man who wasn’t at war during ww2 and gave him a white feather pin to signify him as a coward, there was massive public shaming and suicides because of this, not to forget all the severe mental health problems this contributed to. And this wasn’t a small amount of women this was a massive majority amount of women.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wtf how have I not heard about this in history?

[–]Ju5tc411m3A 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not sure I knew about it all my life? My mom taught me about it as I grew up and I have seen it defended a lot on Reddit and read a few articles.

[–]Ju5tc411m3A 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/white-feather-girls-womens-militarism-in-uk/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/09/11/suffragettes-pinned-a-white-feather-as-a-symbol-of-cowardice-onto-men-not-serving-in-wwi-2/amp/

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Media. Once the media backs something in the west all you see is dollar signs. Doesn't really matter what it is, feminism isn't special in that regard. We see people do their thing, get some press, then change all the time. Pretty easy and common to be a sell out in the US once the media chooses you.

[–]dw87190 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always was

[–]63daddy 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What happened is by the late 60s, feminism gained the lobbying power to win policies favoring women, so they have.

[–]Input_output_error 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It isn't that it's favouritism now, it is just that only now you've started to recognize the favouritism.

[–]KazukiYahashi 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Hasn’t feminism been more about favoritism for decades already? At least since the 21st century?

[–]BrainsBeforeBrawns[🍰] 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As I like to say, it mutated into a man-hating matriarchy. Hell, most of the Reddit mods support the bs it spews out about men.

[–]The_Dapper_Balrog 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Since it's inception. It was a first-waver in the 19th century who came up with the idea to genocide 90% of men, leaving the rest as breeding stock.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Never heard of that. Source?

[–]WingsofSky 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They want more of a "matriarchy". So they can do whatever they want.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Simping combined with 2nd wave feminists who made bed fellows with politicians.

Early wave "feminism" had for the most part good intentions and the like is needed in certain old world areas. Males also would benefit from it. But again people like the focus to be on females, so now we have the end result.

[–]mechajutaro 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Same thing that happens to every social movement,,,, That faction that prioritized the pursuit of concrete, tangible goals was overthrown by the faction that treats identifying bias and prejudice, then spending weeks groaning over the existence of such things, as the be all and end all of activism. We here at The MRM haven't been much different. Take a look/listen at what advocacy around men's issues used to look like, in the not too distant past https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ (especially the final sentences in that article), https://archive.org/details/Radioutlaw-PlayboyColumnistAsaBaberMantalkInterviewPart1706-2 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101833696 . to provide just a few examples

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Criminally forgotten heroes like Asa Baber, Jack Kammer, Mike Arst, the terrific James Cook, and the incomparable Ned Holstein(who's still going strong today)not only succeeding in winning some of the first legislative victories on subjects like shared parenting legislation; they gave the feminist-skeptical world we enjoyed during the late-90s up until the mid-10s, the likes of which have been acknowledged and lamented by even The Woke Warriors who run The Take https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBxgEIcMB6o Anyone who's 35 or older remembers the days in which Askmen hadn't yet gone Woke, and was speaking from an unapologetically male perspective, and even fucking Tyra Banks devoted an hour of her show to male victims of domestic violence, back in '09

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This current iteration of The MRM has emulated Third Wave feminism fondness for mulling over esoteric theories about oppression(Whereas the latter camp believes that White CIS Patriarchy is baked into the DNA of Western Civilization, The Generically Red Pill cling tenaciously to the fever dream that we live in a Gynocentric Social Order), while assiduously avoiding all discussion of how we can help those who are in need to help themselves in practical ways. We're worse off for it. The fact that even pre-COVID, fewer men were in the workforce than was the case at the end of The Great Depression, and several million more are stuck in backbreaking, low-wage employment thank to not having the skills necessary to obtain upward mobility, is indicative of just how ineffectual contemporary MRAs have been

[–]shit-zen-giggles 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Have never heard the names you mentioned. Will read through the links.

Thanks for sharing!

[–]dumb_potatoking 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It was never about equality. They want the same rights as men, but aren't willing to bear the responsibilities that men have to bear, in order to get those rights. If a man wants to vote, he has to be part of conscription, and sign a document that says, that he will defend the country if necessary. You see? We got a right, and a responsibility. Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? However if a woman wants to vote, she doesn't have to take on that responsibility. They got a right, but no responsibility.

[–]DavidByron2 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was never about equality

[–]azazelcrowley 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It always was.

[–]Aimless-Nomad 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its a feature, not a bug.

[–]jhx264 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is the idea that women are inferior to men and need special treatment to compete with men. Prove me wrong.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was always about favoritism.

[–]DifficultTraffic2696 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think its time to start calling out organisations and nations that use 'extreme femenism' as misandrist nations or misandrist organisations

Not only will it risknthe reputation but income also

[–]traveller1976 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ever since the seriously hot and sexy emma watson was tainted by rabid feminism, she has been tarred and feathered as untouchable; i don't recall that she can keep a man, let alone get a shag; i feel sorry for sweet hermione - she probably hates men so much she can barely get past the 1st date; expecting her to come out as lesbian very soon ...

[–]user-and-abuser -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's Marxism.

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