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Emily Blunt Rails Against ‘Strong Female Lead’ Label: ‘It’s the Worst Thing Ever‘ and ‘I’m Bored’ of It

Motorchampion

November 15, 2022
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https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/emily-blunt-rails-slams-strong-female-lead-label-worst-thing-ever-1235432354/
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Title Emily Blunt Rails Against ‘Strong Female Lead’ Label: ‘It’s the Worst Thing Ever‘ and ‘I’m Bored’ of It
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Date November 15, 2022 9:16 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
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[–]suib26 182 points183 points184 points 3 years ago (51 children) | Copy Link

Nice to see some women calling it out. I wish they would address the glorification of female on male violence as female empowerment too.

Probably one of the most problematic tropes I see in strong female leads movies is shots to the groin, sometimes in really sadistic ways too and it's very uncomfortable to watch. Basically glorifying women sexual assaulting men.

Also the fact the poorly written men who are basically only there to be sexist caricatures rather then fleshed out characters in order to perpetuate the narrative "men are bad, women are good".

[–]MisterBowTies 69 points70 points71 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Another one is how it is ok for women to respond to infidelity through violrnce. You see hitting, throwing things that could cause serious harm, and that is above the mandatory destruction of property. Meanwhile if the woman cheated it wasn't her fault, she is a human and it must have been a man's fault.

[–]djc_tech 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There’s a whole Carrie Underwood song about how her bf cheats and she destroys his truck.

If a guy would do that he’s he in jail not glorified- and rightfully so.

I’ve had friends who have had jilted ex-gfs slash tires, break windows and vandalize their vehicles including intentionally driving it into a post. Destroying someone’s property because they broke up or cheated isn’t ok and neither is violence regardless of gender. It’s all childish and shows lack of emotional maturity

[–]MisterBowTies 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even better. She doesn't even know he's cheating on her. The whole song is her speculating "right now, he's probably..." all she knows is his vehicle is in the parking lot. He could be planning a supprise birthday party for her.

[–]Porpoise555 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's become so boring now.. i just finished game of thrones and its crazy to me how nobody finds breann of tarth a strong female lead? Is it becomes she's honorable, respects the traditions of men, respects her teachers and opponents, And is grateful when she EARNS the respect of other knights? These new SFL roles don't have a humble or likeable bone in their body.

[–]PM_SHORT_STORY_IDEAS 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Strong female lead should mean: narratively strong, eg complex motivations, struggles against conflict, has meaningful interactions with foils and antagonists and ultimately (almost always) undergoes a change to indicate that they have grown in some way.

I feel like too many people just make the female lead dominant and successful instead. And that can be entertaining, but it's much more entertaining to watch with bated breath.

[–]Thomjones 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Take Ripley in Aliens. She has growth and change, shows vulnerability and has to face her fesrs. She's strong bc she struggles. She struggles to be heard and struggles against the corporation and struggles against the aliens. She doesn't win bc she's better than anybody, she wins bc she took advantage of a situation.

[–]Skeleton_Snack -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Ripley was famously written with a male character in mind initially. People always quote her and Sarah Connor as good examples of "strong female characters", but tbh I wonder how they would be received if they had just been invented now in 2022. Would they still be as highly regarded, or would people still assume it was pandering or that they were Mary Sues or something? I feel like when those movies came out has a lot to do with why they're more accepted, in addition to being good characters.

[–]PM_SHORT_STORY_IDEAS 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Well, you do get credit for being first

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What do you take issue with?

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You brought up the wrong movie.

Aliens was a heroic turn for Ripley, and that is what was being referenced.

You brought up Alien, where she was a horror survivor.

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What? All interviews I've seen shows that Ripley was originally written with a man in mind. How can I know what version of Ripley someone here is referring to without specifying the movie they are referring to? Also I did mention Aliens in another comment where I say Ripley is more maternal and that is part of her character but doesn't take away from it.

[–]reverbiscrap 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Context. Read the post.

No one calls Ripley from Alien an action hero, so bringing up Alien is a tangent at best. It has no bearing on the conversation, if not distracting from it.

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I re-read the post and my bad, they did specify that it was Aliens. I have however seen Ripley mentioned by name alone and also the movie Alien and not Aliens specifically when I've seen this topic brought up over the years. I guess hearing the same old names brought up over 3 decades gets old.

Out of genuine interest, are there any female characters in action you do believe are well written, and if so which ones?

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you suggesting that Ripley wasn't being heroic in the first Alien movie? It can be a horror survival while still starring a good main character, her being a woman isn't relevant to it, which is what I like about it, and I'm a woman. I prefer that movies don't write their female characters specifically as female because very few manage to pull it off without coming off as forced or stereotypical. Male characters just seem to be written without their maleness being the focus, and that's part of why Ripley worked in Alien. The fact that she is a "final girl" is incidental.

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You don't have Action Heroes in horror movies, by genre convention.

Again, you are constantly referencing the movie no one else is talking about. It is distracting the conversation.

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well to be fair, Alien is also a sci-fi, movies can be more than one genre. While Alien and Aliens aren't made by the same director, Ripley is a character often mentioned by name alone as a well written female character in both movies (she's also in other less notable entries, but not as well written imo), so please excuse my mistake.

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

or would people still assume it was pandering or that they were Mary Sues or something?

No, because they both had weaknesses, respected and acknowledged the capability of others without degrading them (this is noted with male characters), had to grow and overcome challenges.

Contrast this to Rey.

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I agree that Rey is a Mary Sue, but so are lots of male characters that are written and don't get analyzed to death with the same fine toothed comb that female character seem to get. I'm not sure about you personally, and don't want to judge you unfairly, but a bit of consistency from the more famous men who comment on it (and who make a career off of pandering to a particularly type of watcher for it) would be nice.

[–]reverbiscrap 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Rey was not compared to anyone save other leads from the same property.

Compare the Hero's Journey of Luke, compared to the (lack of) Hero's Journey of Rey. Or the Long Fall, and subsequent redemption, of Anakin. Hell, even Ashoka.

What you brought up is a deflection that doesn't even make sense within its own IP, you need to go to other IPs that work with their own rules and expectations of the protagonists.

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I guess my point is that female characters get judged far more harshly than male characters on average. How many men complain about badly written male characters in various properties the way they complain about female characters? I mean maybe lots of men do complain about badly written male characters and if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me. But I just don't see the same level of criticism directed to male characters in any genre. I do think that pandering exists in modern media, but if people judged male and female characters equally solely within the the works they exist within, (and not possibly influenced by the surrounding press coverage and drama around them) would you still say it's an an equal amount of criticism?

Also what point should I bring up in your opinion? I see female characters get judged to death in action movies (and other genres) where male characters are rarely judged as harshly, regardless of realism. How many male led action movies star well written male characters who fight within realistic boundaries?

In any case "strong female character" is just a stupid marketing term in my opinion. I don't think female characters should be given any extra fanfare than male characters do. However i still think there would be men who complain about a female lead written in 2022 regardless of how well written she might be, because of the current environment.

[–]reverbiscrap 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You seem to want to have a different conversation than the one that is being had, so make a topic about it, and discuss it there.

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You seem like a very open-minded and pleasant individual to speak with, so I don't want to come off as harsh when I say any of this. I feel that context matters when discussing why poorly written male leads are overlooked and poorly written female leads are judged more. When a male lead is written poorly, it's simply bad writing and there's nothing else to it. So it gets overlooked. There are bad writers and they will fail to write a good lead. Whereas when a female lead is written poorly, it's because the director portrayed an entire political movement in a very bad way by making that movement the character's entire personality and turning the female lead into a Mary Sue. It suggests that the only way for a woman to be empowered is if she becomes a Mary Sue, which doesn't sit well with many people, and rightfully so. A poorly written male lead is a bad character. A poorly written female lead is usually just a poster girl for a poorly portrayed political movement. The latter is bound to attract more attention.

I do agree that "strong female lead" is just a marketing term however. A bad character is a bad character, a good character is a good character.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wrong, Kill Bill for example. I remember all my hyper macho style, alpha males wanna be FRIENDS being super excited to see. They even bought tickets in advance to see Kill Bill. That to me was the most entertaining female lead ever. Even more than Ripley imho. Kill Bill was the pinnacle to me. Also, Katniss Everdeen, Hunger Games, I don't remember any man being angry with hunger games. We just hate race and gender swap to pander and changing the mannerisms and style of the character to pander to a certain group, who never liked the character in the first place. LOBO for example. They destroyed the comics to make it EMO SENSITIVE. That was the biggest shot in their own foot that I ever saw.

[–]PubicFigure 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I really enjoyed her in Edge of Tomorrow.

[–]Farseer_Uthiliesh 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An amazing movie.

[–]bfte2 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget any "fight" scene with wymyn vs man/men. You already know how it'll go. Wymyn will always be victorious, or go down with at least damaging the main male character to make it look as if he barely won. The guys are also built like brickhouses, which adds more to the insult. It's like watching a toddler fight The Mountain, and constantly win. Funny enough, McGregor tried and got owned...

Meanwhile in the real world, male teenagers and transgenders break wymyn's records, and their jaws.

[+]Thomjones -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe don't use the word "wymyn" and there are plenty of trans fighters in mma who get wrecked. That being said, women have issue with transathletes basically taking records away from women too and nobody is allowed to even ask questions about it or they're seen as transphobic.

[–]bfte2 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

L O L

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its not a problem until women are affected, I guess 🤣

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They portray female empowerment the same way places like DeviantArt portrays femdom societies where women are just naturally superior to men in all capacities.

[–]Thomjones 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ohh, women hate that stuff too, bc usually by necessity, it involves men being violent and assaulting women onscreen. It's uncomfortable for everyone.

[–]shoricho 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Also women leads having no imperfections. They’re just perfect. No flaws, no mistakes. What kind of message does this send to everyone?

As opposed to their male character counterparts who are always flawed in some capacity

[–]Skeleton_Snack 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

For the record lots of women also hate this, and that's why the "strong female character" archetype seems more like a marketing ploy than an actual effort to write a good character.

[–]reverbiscrap 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

For the record lots of women also hate this

Not enough to make a difference in the bank. Let me know when the organized boycott begins, alright?

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What's your point exactly, that the money a product makes always correlates to quality? We already know this isn't the case

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That things that aren't wanted by the masses do not continuously get produced. You assert 'a lot' of women do not like it. I counter that is clearly untrue, as women in western nations spend the majority of the money in households in those nations, and what they do not like, they do not put money to it.

You are comparing arthouse values to economics and female psychology, and that is pure delusion.

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Okay, cause most Hollywood execs and advertisers are mostly women right? And even if they were they don't care about appealing to the easiest demographics and making the easiest buck? By your logic the Star Wars sequels were a big success because they made a lot of money, and are therefore great, seeing as that shit keeps coming. And the Transformers movies are the highest form of art to all men. Please explain female psychology to me Doctor lol.

I was open to having a conversation to broaden my perspective and maybe share my own, but I have a feeling it's pointless to someone with no concept of nuance. You can take the W for all I care, have fun.

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I made a very specific point: mass appeal = $$$

Women spend 80 cents of every dollar. If you want money, YOU APPEAL TO WOMEN FIRST AND FOREMOST. Thusly, contrary to what you think, most women clearly like their Mary Sue female heroes.

Sometimes 2+2 does indeed equal 4, and sometimes you make silly statements that facts contradict out of hand.

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

👌

[–]Skeleton_Snack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, men being sexually abused is still used as a comedy device, whether it be women doing the abusing, or other men. How many "don't drop the soap" jokes have we heard in our lifetime? Or the trope of a male character being the object of attention from another male, despite not wanting said attention.

And men write a lot of these "jokes" themselves. Same with being kicked or hit in the balls, those jokes were all over the place in media, and it wasn't always women doing the kicking. I guess a good question is why some men would find that kind of thing funny when it involves another man.

[–]tablueraspberry 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because we are socially conditioned to lack empathy for men, it's that simple. It also really upsets me how it's usually men who write these scenes but the even sadder thing is how it's enjoyed and deemed funny by many.

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because remember: Being a man makes your inconveniences hilarious.

[–]GerinX 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh I know exactly what you’re talking about. The men in resident evil in tie Netflix show are prime examples of your sentiment about how they’re written

[–]TrainsAndAutomobeels1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

What is an example of a woman hitting a man in the pills in the last 15 years? I think that was a 90s thing.

[–]randomgivenname 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Loki, JoJo Rabit

[–]PM_SHORT_STORY_IDEAS 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wakanda Forever just came out

[–]Aedrian87 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Avengers: Endgame, Birds of Prey, Shazam!, Spiderman: Far From Home, Captain Marvel. That is just big ticket movies from the last 5 years.

Still, replying to a sock puppet account feels pointless.

[–]TrainsAndAutomobeels1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I’ve seen all those and don’t remember anyone taking a shot in the nuts. Also, in most of those movies, people were fighting for their life. If a man is trying to kill you, obviously it’s acceptable to kick him in the stones. That’s self defense, not humour.

[–]Aedrian87 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Moving the goalposts, how lovely. From asking about movies with women hitting men in the nuts in the last 15 years, to saying you watched all of them and don't remember. You are either in deep denial, just trolling or so used to that kind of violence you don't even notice it.

https://youtu.be/0IMY_3rZPg4

[–]pappo4ever 52 points53 points54 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Funny thing is, she is almost the only believable strong female lead, together perhaps with Sigourney Weaver. Perhaps that's why she's so tired of it.

[–]bright_yellow_vest 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She was a bad ass in Edge of Tomorrow

[–]mixing_saws 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dam i still have to watch that movie

[–]AdmirableFlow 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2

[–]Skeleton_Snack 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And her character was originally written with a man in mind (iirc anyway, it could be that there just wasn't a specific gender in mind), so I guess the secret to a good female character is to write the character without the sex in mind and just focus on their character first. It seems that when male characters are written, the focus on them being a man isn't the most important thing about their character, the personality comes first, and that's how it should be for all characters imo.

Ripleys gender doesn't really matter in the plot, as least in Alien, in Aliens it does a bit more seeing as she becomes a maternal figure for Newt, but not in a really obvious way and it still comes across as pretty natural and not forced, Ripley was a mother after all.

Note: edited for some spelling mistakes.

[–]silvrado 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Brave woman, but this kinda talk makes her a target for cancelling.

[–]brandon24745 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean she's Blunt.

[–]aries0413 47 points48 points49 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She realizes no one wants to watch a blue haired Karen.. Mary sue themselves through a entire movie.

[–]Goouteb12342 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always knew Emily Blunt was a real one

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Edge of Tomorrow and Sicario gang, stand up!

[–]_BlueShark87 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Most viewers also find it annoying. I actually liked Shuri’s character from BP 2 because she had character development, emotions, and was vulnerable. Unlike most characters cough cough she hulk cough cough.

[–]TrainsAndAutomobeels1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Why are you watching she hulk?

[–]Andrew_Squared 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For Daredevil. Was disappointed.

[–]brandon24745 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I only watched his Episode. Was glad he stayed true to his character.

[–]_BlueShark87 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because I was hoping it would be good unlike the most of phase 4.

[–]TheMexicanJuan 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not mincing words. She’s always been blunt

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

female actors who have spoken out against the “strong female lead”

Emily Blunt

Tatiana Maslany (article mentioned her name too)

Not being sarcastic or something, Can anyone mention other names, I genuinely want to know those. I tried to search on the internet, all I'm getting is the article of Emily Blunt.

[–]Morden013 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Atomic Blonde is a good example of that.

Charlize Theron fighting off a bunch of massive guys, killing them and walking away. I stopped watching at that point.

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

But would you have stopped watching if it was a male character doing the killing and walking away? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely curious. I don't even think I've seen Atomic Blonde, I think I've just seen one clip from it. Is that the one where she's in the hotel or apartment or whatever and, like, every other attack she delivers is a blow to the balls? She wears a black mask and she has a gunfight with two guys on a stairwell?

[–]Morden013 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that is the one.

Don't get me wrong, I love a good action movie. I will watch a decent one, but if it is one scene after the other of a model-actress in hand-to-hand combat with professionals who mysteriously have fits of weakness, then it is such a deterrent, I can't. I simply can't. And it is not on her. It is on the studio who promotes stupid movie like that.

Let me give you the examples of some that stuck with me:

  • Movies with Jason Statham. He is fit, powerful and fast.
  • John Wick with Keanu Reeves - completely different energy than Statham. He is a personification of true grit and mean determination. That scene in the nightclub in the movie one...in the basement...was fantastic.
  • Haywire - Gina Carano. The movie was not great, but she was solid. You can see she has the moves and the muscle.
  • Peppermint - Jeniffer Garner. A vendetta movie I liked.
  • Collateral - Tom Cruise. One of my favorite movies. The performance of Tom Cruise was top-notch. The personification of a walking death. Speed, control, determination.
  • Nobody - Bob Odenkirk - The bus-fight is the example of a comedy fight. It is over the top parody, but done in such a way your brain says: "Why the hell not. Let's enjoy this."
  • The edge of tomorrow - Emily Blunt did a very decent job, as did Tom Cruise. Fit, determined, desperate. Good one!
  • Tomorrow war - loved Yvonne Strahovski. The desperation, will to do the right thing despite the odds...

I am certain I have missed a lot of great examples, but being on my first coffee of the day does that. :)

If you've trained, you know that the moves he does were exaggerated when it comes to fighting. If you've been in the street-fight or had a weapon pointed at you, you know that all of the above is just...a movie.

As a kid, I thought that Bud Spencer and Terence Hill movies are the best! :) My father took me to the movies and I love him even more for it.

To answer your question - would I walk away... Yes. Oh, yes I would and I did. It is not about the gender. It is about the movie and how it's made. The thing is, if you enjoy watching them, please do. This above - that is just my opinion, and it should not spoil any joy for somebody else.

All the best!

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There are a few movies you've listed that I haven't seen, but with the mention of John Wick and Jason Statham, I'm sure they're all pretty good. Jason hasn't disappointed yet and the John Wicks are amazing (actually only recently saw all of them. Funny I always thought they'd be stupid, but plot twist I loved each one.). I liked The Tomorrow War as well, and Nobody is something that's been on my radar. I haven't seen it, but I've passed by it a few times on some streaming service (probably Prime) a few times and just haven't gotten around to watching it yet. It looks promising though.

[–]Morden013 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yesterday, I thought about the post I made and remembered missing another great example:

Sigourney Weaver - Alien. She did that role a justice!

When it comes to John Wick series - I wish they would go more in the direction of the first one. It had that gritty filter I love in action movies. The second one was irritating in the end - that mirror maze didn't need to happen.

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh. I'm definitely no professional on cinematography or anything, but I liked the mirror maze.

[–]SaltyDawg1966 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Ask my wife, I despise a ‘man’ who physically abuses a female. With this said:

I really think it’s cool when we see a female lead cop show where a 130lb female cop throws a 200+lb man across the hood of a car… like he’s a toddler. The realism is 🤯! (Sarcasm)

These displays give young girls, growing into womanhood, a false sense of reality and a skewed perspective of their true physical abilities. Pound for pound, women are no physical match for men. Disagree? How many battered men’s shelters have you heard of or seen? (The fact that women’s shelters are needed is nauseating. Men need to do better! ).

The old show, The Closer, was a perfect example of a strong female lead where Kyra Sedgwick’s character routinely outwitted her male suspects. Much more realistic and a far better example for both young girls and boys to follow.

Just my opinion.

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay, I hate the way female empowerment is portrayed in movies as much as the next guy, but a woman can absolutely be stronger than a man. I speak as a man. On average, maybe not, but it's possible.

[–]Strigon_7 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I knew I liked her for a reason.

[–]Thomjones 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She right. Ripley from Alien was a "strong female lead" and all that was done was not specifying the characters gender in the script.

[–]WRAD120 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmm perhaps she can redeem herself.

[+]EvidencePlz -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the many reasons why I don't have a TV and cable TV subscriptions.

I don't subscribe to any video streaming services such as Netflix, Amazon Prime etc.

I only buy movies (and play them on my PC) that have absolutely no gynocentrism, feminism etc and are based on real life stories of real alpha men. For example: 1. Das Boot and 2. Men of Honour. I watch these films repeatedly whenever I want to be entertained.

I don't buy and listen to pop and romantic songs. I only buy and listen to heavy metal and rap songs that revolve around alpha men. Example: Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden etc.

I'm a proud MGTOW for life.

[–]CanniBal1320 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bro fucking chill out man u r bring cringey af

[–]Dreamwaltzer 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Tbh you sound cringy as fuck.

[+]EvidencePlz -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And you play Guild Wars 2 all day.

You live inside a fantasy lol.

Go outside and touch grass.

[–]Dreamwaltzer 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Go outSiDE anD tOuch gRASs

The cringe just snowballs.

[–]Pechture1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually both of you are cringe. You're both beta. I sit under a tree all day meditating and transcending reality like a real alpha male. Get on my level.

[–]liberalbutnotcrazy 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Based and Bodhisattva pilled

[–]kitx38 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh gawd, is your next step going to be TRP?

How's the lifting regime going, have you read all the MGTOW recommended reading too?

Seriously dude if you're not actually enjoying your life it's not MGTOW 😆

[–]Personal_Ice2327 -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Who is this..is she a politician of some sort

[–]Saysonz 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, prime Minister of Ireland

[–]Personal_Ice2327 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanx mate

[–]djc_tech 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I liked her character in Sicario. A strong but believable female character.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women do the most basic shit ever and call it "empowerment"

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like putting a curfew on men and not women in Australia. Not sure if that's still a thing, but I remember reading about that somewhere.

[–]ebony-mori 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I seriously hate the pandering nonsense and terrible writing.

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If you want to create a strong female character, she doesn't have to be able to take down 7 highly trained, armed male soldiers with nothing but her fists and the occasional kick.

That or her entire personality is engulfed by pure pick-me energy, where anything even the slightest thing feminine is somehow repulsive to her, and every woman around her is a ditsy, catty blonde.

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They're either a backwards cap and overall wearing mechanic that hates women and loves 'hanging with the guys', or She-Hulk. Little in between.

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just a silly thought, but a woman can't actually be a ditsy, catty blond. They can, however, be a ditsy, catty blonde.

[–]H1mik0_T0g4 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is really annoying to see how female empowerment is portrayed in movies. It really does just boil down to women assaulting men who are all sexist because that's just how men are, that female lead not having any flaws and even when she does do something awful it's forgiven pretty easily, any one woman is clearly stronger than all men, and women just overall being a arrogant and petty and childish. Usually towards men. That's how female empowerment is portrayed now. Now, I can obviously understand if these traits are simply a part of the female lead's character. That's an exception. And I know similar things have been done with male leads and no one batted an eye. The issue with that argument though is Male Empowerment wasn't the goal of those male leads being the way they were. With female leads, it seems like those traits are what's commonly used to represent a female lead as strong for some reason. The problem is the way those traits are used. And using them as a form of gender empowerment is not the way. There are movies that portray good female leads, strong ones at that. It's just a shame that so many directors and writers do it so poorly.

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