Take responsibility for your own outcome

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-12-29T23:07:07+00:00

No rants

bodaciousbonsai · 2022-12-29T21:13:51+00:00

Agreed. And women should take responsibility for their own actions. Ask for commitment after sleeping with a guy and he says no, that's on you. Sleep around and turn off a large portion of men, that's on you. Act masculine and turn off a large portion of men, that's on you. Etc.

Early-Christmas-4742 · 2022-12-29T20:52:09+00:00

Sometimes things happen that are out of your control. It's always best to do what you can to improve your situation, but blaming yourself for things you can't control can be as harmful as not blaming yourself for things you can.

BiodegradableOffense · 2022-12-29T20:56:49+00:00

I do love the irony of Internet Badasses thinking they Tell It Like It Is(tm) when in reality the very idea that anyone can make it if only they try hard enough is incredibly naive and ignorant.

It's so... succulent.

uselessloner123 · 2022-12-29T21:24:02+00:00

Take responsibility for your own outcome. The same can be applied to women too.

So many dudes put so much mental energy into finding ways to blame women for why they can’t get laid.

So many women put so much energy into shouting and typing to blame men calling them "misogynist" and "sexist" for why they can't find relationships thanks to their wild and promiscuous pasts.

Anything other than “what can I do about it” is a self-defeating attitude. This applies to everything in life. Can’t get a job? Stop blaming the job market. Can’t win a game in pickup soccer? Get better and carry harder. Can’t get women? Improve everything you can.

Anything other than "What can I do about it now ?" is a bullshit and irresponsible attitude. This applies to everything in life. Did you make a terrible mistake in your current relationship ? Can't find a stable relationship because of your past ? Don't make these so-called "I was having fun" mistakes to begin with.

Ironically, this type of determination to overcome obstacles is attractive to a lot of women. Just by being the type of dude that has this attitude, you’ve already improved your standing.

Ironically, this type of determination to overcome temptations of casual sex is attractive to a lot of men. Just by being the type of gal that has this attitude, you've already improved your standing.

"But what about”

BUT WHAT ABOUT NOTHING

"But my past is my past. I'm a changed woman now......"

BUT YOUR PAST IS YOUR PAST..... NOTHING.

I don’t care if you’re short or have a big nose or are naturally shy. You can still dress nice and be confident if you’re short. You can still be witty and clever if you’re shy. You can still have nice teeth if you have a big nose.

I don't care if you are naturally promiscuous or were used for sex in a date. If you have done something in your past and you can't change it, quit whining about it and accept the reality that men like me who have standards are not going to accept you.

No excuses. Get better.

No excuses. Don't make mistakes that haunt your future. Get better.

Moral of the story : it's both men and women's duty to get better in life. You telling men to get better in life is for what ? Just to settle for a promiscuous woman with a colourful promiscuous past or a woman with BPD or other mental illness/trauma. These two symptoms make up to 95% of women nowadays. The juice is not worth the squeeze. Still though, I don't disagree with you that men (everyone) should be improving themselves.

Anykindofland · 2022-12-29T21:06:27+00:00

Can’t get a job? Stop blaming the job market. Can’t win a game in pickup soccer? Get better and carry harder. Can’t get women? Improve everything you can.

I don't know why there is such a fetish for increasing the rat race for men. Jump higher, farther for something so mediocre that under normal circumstances nobody would get up for.

firefireburnburn · 2022-12-29T21:08:28+00:00

The problem with dating is that there is usually very little feedback as to why you are failing. The girls just say no thanks and leave it at that. your buddies say you're great, your female friends say you'd make a great bf or husband, but there is nothing actionable you can do except keep going out there to fail and gain no knowledge of why you are failing. You try stuff, maybe youre boring so you try out some new hobbies, but that doesn't help and now youre out $500 for a few months of ceramics lessons, maybe you lift, but that doesnt help and your out $30 a month and 10 hours a week, but that doesnt help. maybe you try a new wardrobe... You can improve yourself in a million different ways but without any direction on how to do so, it can all easily be meaningless. And thats the real problem. Give a man a reasonable path to what he wants and he will take it, but vaguely gesture in that same direction and he will call you a moron

TheRealGgsjags · 2022-12-29T21:05:16+00:00

Completely agree.

This is why in civilized societies woman get stoned after getting raped. And why single moms should get spit on.

Take responsability for your own outcome right? Don't dress like a whore, don't go outside on your own, treat your husband right and shit like this doesn't happen.

U agree right OP?

Capeninja · 2022-12-29T21:32:23+00:00

If nobody ever complained about problems or unfairness that they have no personal control over themselves then political parties and social movements wouldn't exist.

Everyone would just shut up and focus on their own life, tackling any unique individual obstacles in silence.

It's just never how people have worked. And if you have to listen to other peoples' complaints, you don't feel any need to bottle up yours.

Barely-moral · 2022-12-29T21:47:20+00:00

You can take responsibility and blame others at the same time. Those are not exclusive.

Example. I go through a bad neighborhood. I get robbed.

My responsibility because I make a stupid decision. I am not to blame for the robbery. The robber is.

BitsAndBobs304 · 2022-12-29T22:08:45+00:00

> Ironically, this type of determination to overcome obstacles is attractive to a lot of women. Just by being the type of dude that has this attitude, you’ve already improved your standing.

in other words, women are attracted to idiot narcissists. gotcha. then again the evidence for their preference for dark triad men is undeniable.

pearllovespink · 2022-12-29T22:43:37+00:00

They will dodge this message like any other positive message posted.

Repulsive_Vehicle175 · 2022-12-29T20:53:29+00:00

You can still have nice teeth if you have a big nose.

but what if you're a british jew

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2022-12-29T21:17:49+00:00

Let's see how it plays out, if I do what you say I should do. Okay, here it goes: I take responsibility. There, I've said it, I now have full responsibility. Now what? Nothing has changed? I'm no closer to getting what I want compared to when I "didn't" take responsibility. You're not even wrong. It's not that I disagree with you, it's that your plan doesn't help.

2022-12-29T21:18:35+00:00

Can’t get a job? Stop blaming the job market.

1933 would like to have a word with you.

LeanderGrant · 2022-12-29T21:29:26+00:00

It's a wonderful thought friend. I agree that any man can succeed in dating despite their starting point, but hard work isn't quite enough.

Building attraction is counterintuitive. A man or a woman being constantly nice is not attractive to anyone. Their niceness gives the impression of being desperate for approval. If a man puts all his hard work into being nice then he will not succeed.

He must know how to apply his efforts to being a good person while expressing himself to the world as competent, and not needy.

When he solves that riddle, then he becomes the best version of himself.

2022-12-29T21:31:22+00:00

So many dudes put so much mental energy into finding ways to blame women for why they can’t get laid.

Women are to blame, though. Do you really want as system where women don't get to say "no"? Where a man can have sex with a woman even though she doesn't want to? Where men can override the decision of a woman to not have sex with him?

Ironically, this type of determination to overcome obstacles is attractive to a lot of women.

Okay, I'm super duper determined to overcome obstacles. Now what? Where are all the women lining up to suck my dick? You're the one who said that attitude was attractive, so what gives? Or, are you not really saying that doing what you tell me to do gets results? You don't get to have it both ways.

You can still dress nice and be confident if you’re short. You can still be witty and clever if you’re shy. You can still have nice teeth if you have a big nose.

Check, check, and check. Where are all the women who want to hook up with me? I'm doing what you tell me to do, but it doesn't work. Oh, is there more? Well, you never said that. Okay, I'll tell you what, here's what we can do: you tell me everything necessary to get results. I don't care if it's an insanely long list, just tell me what the rules are. That way, we can test to see if I really am, or not, doing everything that you say should get me sex. Whatever insanely long list of do's and don't's which, if complied with, guarantees sex. Just like how paying for a cup of coffee guarantees you one cup of coffee, so too I need a list of rules that will guarantee results. That way, we can test if your theory is right or wrong. If I'm doing everything you say I have to do to get sex, and I still can't get sex, then maybe your theory is wrong.

No excuses. Get better.

I already did, so where's the pussy I can put my dick into?

I mean, everyone could always "get better," just by the definition of what it means. It's a goal that can never be accomplish, because, no matter how good you are, there's always room to "get better." So, it's pretty stupid to make sex conditional on satisfying an impossible-to-satisfy criterion.

You can always "get better"
you haven't satisfied the criterion yet
you don't get sex
you can never satisfy the criterion because there's always room for improvement
you never get sex.

Is that the way you're telling me it's supposed to work? Just checking.

DryOutcome3407 · 2022-12-29T22:39:19+00:00

A relationship is something that can only be given from a person to other and women in the human species are the ones who choose their mates.

Even if I become the best version of myself I'm still conscript to my nurturing, socio economic and appearence factors.

The kind of attitude that you and peoples like you have come from a position of privilege, because you aways have the choice of something the concept of another person not having choice is alien.

norseman777 · 2022-12-29T23:03:58+00:00

Ah,the incel issue.

I wanted to add a caveat and maybe some context as to why they get miffed, mostly because I feel like I am around that pool frequently and am always irritated by it.

I am a f'ing nerd, no shame. Made a career out of it in IT, and playing music.

I am mildly ashamed about the amount of gunpla I have, etc. So guess the type of dudes I am around quite a bit.

I was morbidly obese when I was younger, but I was buff.

400+lbs and I lifted heavy things to alleviate my inner turmoils. I suffered from most if not all of the same issues these incels have.

I would always see the more shy guys that were nerdy get denied, I would even wing man for em, and the rejection was a lot for a lot of them. I watched a lot of my friends turn into women haters due to this. Some were amazing, just quiet, and shy. Then as time went on the whole incel thing arouse and I had to distance myself from a lot of people I knew.

To wrap my point up I was morbidly obese, a black metal outcast nerd dude, and had 0 issues having partners since I was 13 because I was 6'4, (6'3 after a spinal surgery) and looked like Thor with the body of Mark Henry.

There is validity to the fact that taller, more attractive, stronger men are sought after first. Even if they have WAY more flaws than guys who are shorter.

However, the truth of going after partners that actually share your interests and aren't just hot, or surface-level traits is what a lot of them don't understand. They want Becky, but have 0 in common. Then get mad that she rejects them, but it is actually valid. Top that off with they see her going after a guy that is more of a societal norm they see that as well she only likes assholes yatta yatta.

Incels irritate the crap out of me, but I always feel odd because I am living evidence for some validity in some of what they say.

Title	Take responsibility for your own outcome
Author	PassMyGuard
Upvotes	8
Comments	77
Date	December 29, 2022 8:47 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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