The Amazing Atheist's response to Anita Sarkeesian's "Damsel in Distress" video.

SirFinland · 2013-06-04T07:14:37+00:00

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ibm2431 · 2013-06-04T10:27:13+00:00

Did she really include Pandora's Tower in an image backdrop while claiming said games use violence against women as a plot device?

There are only two human characters in the game. And if you don't go out and risk your life to bring home the bacon (or, beast flesh) to the woman... she'll eat you. And then kill everyone.

But hey, screw the fact that Aerin is constantly risking his life under the threat of death of both himself and the woman he loves. You fight a demon with a female voice at the end of the game! Who's trying to kill you! Pandora's Tower uses violence against women as a plot device and is blatantly misogynist!

Yes, the game does its fair share of gender role reinforcement. But violence against women? Really?

DerpaNerb · 2013-06-04T13:07:14+00:00

I actually made a youtube comment because there is one thing I severely disagree with... when he concedes "Maybe there is violence against women in games because there is more violence against women in the real world".

Honestly, I shouldn't even use the word "concede" because the implication is that it's something based on opinion and not on fact.

We know that in the last year men were just as victimized by rape as women were.

We know that in non-reciprocal cases of domestic violence that women are the perpetrators 70% of the time (with reciprocal cases obviously having both partners (genders) be victims).

And we also know that for all other crime, (murder, muggings, anything)... that men are the majority of victims BY FAR.

So again, I'm curious why he seems to think that these games apparently reflect the real world... when it's quite clear which gender is the primary victim of violence.

Now for the game side of this... The amount of violence shown in video games towards women is ridiculously minuscule compared to the violence shown towards men... by her logic, these games are just more "revenge porn" (isn't that the term she used?).

seego79 · 2013-06-04T15:06:37+00:00

if i was a woman i would be offended that the idea of a woman being self sacrificing for the good of the world. the assumption that you could quick fix yourself out of moral questions is tragic and lazy.

i notice she never used the boss's death in metal gear solid 3 as an example because it doesn't fit her narrative.

baskandpurr · 2013-06-04T11:32:33+00:00

It's interesting that he doesn't get angry in this video. He's more focussed on making his point in the clearest way possible. He wants people to understand the problem with these videos more than he wants to rant in frustration.

Thisismynetlife · 2013-06-04T17:02:44+00:00

I love the AA, but he is wrong on this. Women are not more likely to be victims of violence. Men suffer from acts of violence at a much higher rate than women.

KingOfEggsAndBacon · 2013-06-04T17:27:16+00:00

I like it, except for the fact that he claims women are more likely to be victimized, which is a myth.

But of course everyone here knows that. Somebody tell him.

He has got a lot of videos on this topic where we falls for some old lies and myths and somebody should seriously educate him about that.

esantipapa · 2013-06-04T21:26:59+00:00

/facepalm...

The games she refers to portray (almost universally) any violence against women as a despicable act of villainy... acts of villainy the hero then has to avenge, correct or stop... If she wanted games to help stop violence against women, most of these games already do a pretty good job in hijacking male minds to see violence against women as the act of a criminal, demon, evil spirit, bad guy, and/or foe. Ultimately, it teaches boys/men to oppose anyone who commits acts of violence against the women they happen care about. How is that a bad thing?

What the ever-loving fuck is wrong with her?

SheepInWolvesClothin · 2013-06-04T20:53:08+00:00

He's way off from history. The damsel in distress stories that actually coined the phrase 'damsel in distress' were invented by bored nobility-class women who dreamed about a knight in shining armor to come and whisk them away to a better life.

It was females creating fantasies of leaving the mundane via male agency. The very name of the trope she's citing refers to stories written by women, told to women, and characterizing men as objects of salvation and sexual/romantic desire.

2013-06-04T17:14:22+00:00

I find it bizarre and a gigantic oversight that he failted to point out that in real life the vast majority of victims of violence are men...

In video games the vast majority of victims are men too, while we are on the subject. The main difference is that male characters are fare more likely to be considered disposable and the females are more likely to be considered precious.

2013-06-04T19:09:57+00:00

She is a person who found a way to make money saying nothing. Her kickstarter goal was 6 grand she got well over 100 grand. She is a year late with these "Reports" Where was she? What was she doing? I wonder if she was audited did all the money raised go towards this project ? Did the excess funds go to a charity ? I wonder if her FB has vacation photos of exotic trip she couldn't afford before Kickstarter? Her house or personal possessions? I wonder. . .

SwearWords · 2013-06-05T00:45:24+00:00

I laughed when I saw Rachel from Ninja Gaiden in the montage in the beginning.

First, she kills fiends with a war hammer.

Second, she was knocked out from behind when she was captured.

Third, she was chained up like that in an arcane ceremony to turn her into a greater fiend, like what happened to her sister, Alma.

Fourth, Alma knocks Ryu aside and sacrifices her life to prevent the cerimony's completion.

Rachel's hardly a helpless damsel. Nor was she Ryu's property. She was a badass fiend hunter who was taken down with a cheap shot.

I'd like to see Anita actually play Ninja Gaiden up to that point. Alma is easily one of the hardest bosses in the game, let alone in gaming around when NG released for the Xbox (2004, iirc). Even if she did play it, I'm sure she'd either ignore the context or come up with some other dumb argument based on something barely noticeable. Fucking causeheads.

bluecowry · 2013-06-04T13:53:03+00:00

brilliant response!

secondhand_emotion · 2013-06-04T13:38:48+00:00

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spermjack_attack · 2013-06-04T13:27:49+00:00

WAT! She's disabled comments to her YouTube! Misandry! MISANDRY!

Title	The Amazing Atheist's response to Anita Sarkeesian's "Damsel in Distress" video.
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Date	June 4, 2013 7:13 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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