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Britain's top prosecutor blasted as 'complacent' after insisting that nobody has been wrongly jailed in rape trials farce

JohnKimble111

January 19, 2018
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Title Britain's top prosecutor blasted as 'complacent' after insisting that nobody has been wrongly jailed in rape trials farce
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 615
Comments 53
Date January 19, 2018 7:44 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]JStheHammer 118 points119 points120 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Man hater.

[–]Yeahadamnthrowaway 79 points80 points81 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It turns out you are correct -

from DM - link below :

Much of this focus on offences against women has been driven by the Director of Public Prosecutions, Alison Saunders, who took up her post in November 2013, and has since been regularly embroiled in controversies over her decisions, such as her refusal to prosecute the late Labour peer Lord Janner on multiple allegations of paedophilia. But it is her attachment to a doctrinaire brand of feminism that is the most disturbing feature of her CPS leadership. Perrins claimed under the current Director of Public Prosecutions

Alison Saunders, pictured, men facing rape allegations must show what steps they took to ensure they had consent +5 Perrins claimed under the current Director of Public Prosecutions Alison Saunders, pictured, men facing rape allegations must show what steps they took to ensure they had consent

This is the public official who stated last year that any woman who wakes up in bed with a man, with no memory of the previous evening because of drunkenness, should go to the police if there is the slightest suspicion that an assault may have been committed. In the same politically correct tones, she has published complex guidelines on sexual consent which, she boasted, ‘take us well beyond the old saying that “no means no”.’ In Ms Saunders’ brave new world, a rape suspect may have to show the steps he took to establish that consent was ‘fully and freely given’, which rather inverts that age-old British tradition: innocent until proven guilty.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3777053/The-feminists-turning-British-justice-against-men-writes-LAURA-PERRINS.html#ixzz54cgxXKEq Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

[–]TheDemeisen40 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I have done jury duty on one of these cases. Shoddy "evidence", and crap police investigation. It was a unanimous not guilt verdict. Not a single juror argued for guilty.

[–]DownvotedByShitters 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But if you're on media duty it's a blast going out and destroying men's lives for feminism.

[–]TheDemeisen1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

How often can you get called up for media duty?

[–]CountVonVague 31 points32 points33 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

has since been regularly embroiled in controversies over her decisions, such as her refusal to prosecute the late Labour peer Lord Janner on multiple allegations of paedophilia.

why am i not surprised

[–]Hirudin 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's always interesting when these so called "progressives" idea of "progress" is to regress criminal law by several centuries.

If this type of authoritarian prosecution becomes the norm, it will have dire effects:

It is more important that innocence should be protected, than it is, that guilt be punished; for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world, that all of them cannot be punished.... when innocence itself, is brought to the bar and condemned, especially to die, the subject will exclaim, 'it is immaterial to me whether I behave well or ill, for virtue itself is no security.' And if such a sentiment as this were to take hold in the mind of the subject that would be the end of all security whatsoever

  • John Adams.

[–]AEsirTro 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't care. She and women like her are not there to do the job. They are there to push their ideology. They are toxic to their fields and in jobs like this a danger to society.

[–]putamanoutofaplane 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hopefully Scotland Yard's head is not a Feminist.

[–]Fortspucking 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're men--how can they be innocent?

[–]StrawberrySpringg 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it's women per se. Just man-hating psycho bitches. And unfortunately not enough women speak up about their "crazy sisters."

[–]StrawberrySpringg 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wait, why is this obvious man-hating psycho not fired Yet?

[–]JStheHammer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women run that country

[–]StrawberrySpringg 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh wait, yeah.

[–]pusymaster 40 points41 points42 points 8 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

I hope she gets falsely accused of rape

[–]Infectedbumhole 30 points31 points32 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

I thought that the legally accepted definition of rape in the UK does not cover the possibility of a female perpatrator?

[–]shellbross24 points 8 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

I doesn't. Rape is forced penetration of a penis, thus biological women are de facto excluded all together.

[–]dadibom 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

afaik any penetration with a body part is defined as rape. so including a finger in the mouth.

edit: would love to see a better source http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rape

[–]shellbross19 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_English_law

Rape is a statutory offence in England and Wales. According to the law, rape occurs when one person penetrates another with their penis without the consent of the person being penetrated. If a victim is forcefully penetrated with an object, this is classed as "Assault by Penetration". If the victim is forcefully made to penetrate another, the act can be prosecuted as "Causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent".

So in the UK, rape is when a penis in involved and only applicable to biological men.

The more you know...

[–]Revoran 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

To be fair to the UK, the female version carries the same sentence.

But yeah it's dumb that only the male one is called "rape".

[–]shellbross19 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Making rape specific to men is a smart Feminist move. That way you can have nice statistics with 100% male perpetrators of rape, call it an epidemic and push for always harder laws against men's sexuality.

[–]anon_and_on9 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

The female one doesn't carry the same sentence, rape is "life" and "causing sexual activity without consent" is 10 years and isn't termed rape and so never appears on rape statistics.

rape: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/1

causing sexual activity without consent: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/4

[–]Revoran 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah, look at sub-section 4.

If the act by A causes:

  • B to penetrate to vagina/anus of another person, or
  • Causes B to penentrate another person's mouth with their penis
  • And B doesn't consent or A does not resonably believe B consents
  • Then A is liable upon conviction upon indictment for life imprisonment

So if a woman forces a man to penetrate her, she is liable to imprisonment for life.

I could be wrong here, but it seems pretty clear.

[–]anon_and_on2 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

yes you're right, also life, but teh crime isn't rape and so won't appear on any stats etc but good catch

[–]Revoran 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No worries. And yeah I agree it's bullshit that they don't call it rape.

[–]1Archeos 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Is there a reason for it to specify "if he"? Does "he" include both sexes in these legislations? I find it weird that its not neutral in sex, seems wrong to single out a sex in those legislations.

[–]Revoran 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

It can mean a person of either gender. You see it a lot in old writing. Nowadays it's mostly only seen in laws.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/he-or-she-versus-they

[–]1Archeos 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks! Was suspecting something like that, but wasn't sure. It's a good thing that it's not that wrong in it's wording atleast. :)

[–]iainmf 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the same as New Zealand.

Not sure about the UK but, the sentencing guidelines for rape vs 'unlawful sexual connection' are clearly biased.

[–]pusymaster 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is that for fucking real? So by their logic if a woman ties you down and forces your dick inside her it's not rape?

[–]AEsirTro 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That is right men, what are you going to do about it pussies? Nothing that's what. Now bend over.

Don't cry, a strap-on isn't rape either.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've spent a decade going after politicians and feminists in rape crisis services. What have you done?

[–]a_posh_trophy -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who would ever admit to fucking that?

[–]motorscuz 35 points36 points37 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Jemma Beale. Because of her an innocent man went to jail for 5 years. So it seems to this prosecutor that no man is innocent and men deserve to be put in jail

[–]shellbross23 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Feminism.

[–]SCROTAL-SACK 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm fairly certain this woman raped me when I was too drunk to consent.. (I mean look at her..).. Wat do? /s

[–]MuslimGangEnrichment 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In the UK women can't legally rape men.

[–]NebulousASK 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not true... you just need a penis to legally rape someone.

And in the UK, a woman can have a penis. So had she taken steps to affirmatively prove she didn't penetrate this man with her penis?

[–]Slicer316 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fk that

[–]SCROTAL-SACK 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess I'm SOL. oh well, thanks anyway guys :(

[–]mr2jay 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"She said police were obliged to pursue ‘all reasonable lines of inquiry’ but added: ‘That doesn’t mean going into every single avenue of your life."

We are only trying to destroy your life and put you away. Clearly seems they only want convictions not justice.

[–]njullpointer 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

well, she is flat wrong, not just "complacent", she's "complicit".

This man hating bitch cunt needs to go.

[–]chadwickofwv 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I have seen so far she is the one who created the problem in the first place and is quite proud of it.

[–]aokusman 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This woman is the chief man hating feminist. The pain and and suffering of an innocent man means less to her than the false tales of a false accuser.

[–]Bestoftherest222 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In all honesty she probably thinks she is correct in saying this. Due to the fact that she doesn't see men as victims or innocent for that matter. Much like SJW who say "Punch a Nazi" all while these same SJW's decry any one hugging some one else for a second to long.

[–]Splatriarchy 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it just me or are feminist man hating women in power scary evil? It's as if they are out to destroy men and their lives. It's like the exact sexist thing they claim to fight against with feminism being about equality. The hypocrisy is mind boggeling.

[–]mikesteane 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Describing her as complacent is like describing Pol Pot as inconsiderate.

[–]majortom22 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is it that you can always tell 'that' kind of woman just by looking at her. She's textbook.

[–]MuslimGangEnrichment 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whoa, an ugly bitch hates men? Shocking!

[–]Jermeiah 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Are not the majority of the population complacent? Indolent? Uncaring? Selfish?

The people only be getting what they want. Until the Leaders stand up. (And I sure as fuck don't mean the politicians.)

[–]dukunt 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well ya...women never lie about rape. Everyone knows this. /s

[–]ee4m 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is great to see it coming apart at the seems.

Streisand effect.

[–]Electroverted 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just look at her

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