Red Pilled Women don't want to be with red pilled men, which is a misconception I see people making on other subs. Difference between a HVM and a RP man.

O3Chaos · 2021-03-25T17:05:04+00:00

Amen.

Freja_Walther · 2021-03-25T17:44:47+00:00

Man I was thinking about this a lot, I nearly just joined TRP and I thought it would be a place I could agree with but I don't agree with most of what they say.

My problem is most in there only care about having sex with women, but what I care about and what I think a lot of red pilled women care about is creating stabil relationships with high value men, meaning men with good morals and values that we share.

I am sorry, I know this maybe not be the traditional redpill value and philosophy, but the more women a man has sex with, the lower the value he has in my eyes.

RP_Bear9 · 2021-03-25T17:55:00+00:00

The concept of 'red pill' seems to mean different things to different people. But, your post is right on target and glad you posted this. HVM probably don't spend that much time on Reddit in the first place.

KombuchaEnema · 2021-03-25T18:19:17+00:00

I have an interesting thought about this:

A lot of MGTOW guys will mention how women suddenly became irresistibly attracted to them as soon as they went MGTOW. Women never wanted these men, never gave them the time of day, and now that they’re MGTOW, suddenly all these women want them. So what happened?

Well, first: what is is MGTOW anyway? The entire concept of MGTOW revolves around men bettering themselves for themselves and not for the sake of getting a girlfriend.

Huh. What an interesting concept.

Ironically (and I view this as a sort of cosmic tragedy), men going MGTOW (i.e., bettering themselves for their own sake rather than desperately seeking the attention of women) is precisely what makes them attractive to women in the first place.

A lot of men get frustrated when people say “women like confidence!” They will say, “That’s not true! I was confident and I didn’t get any women!”

But there’s a vast difference between acting confident in the desperate hope of attracting a woman and actually being confident. A confident man with his own goals in life who takes care of himself and has standards is what women want - and truth be told, a lot of MGTOW men didn’t become that kind of guy until they had already sworn off women.

The issue here is that men have learned to cater to women and have stopped being independent. Back in my grandparents’ day, a man would build a life for himself and then find a woman who could complement that life, and they would finish building that life together. A man had standards for what kind of woman he would accept as his wife. Nowadays it seems like men are bending over backwards trying to accommodate and please women who want to be treated like queens, and those men get frustrated when women aren’t attracted to the whole “you’re my queen, my world revolves around you” shtick. I think men in the dating world have been effectively castrated by the whole “I want to be treated like a queen” idea that’s floating around.

So the MGTOW men are angry that the “you’re my queen” bit didn’t work, and ironically they end up attracting more women as soon as they abandon their habit of catering to and kissing the ground women walk on. But by that point they are too bitter to entertain the idea of seriously dating a woman.

It’s sad, in my opinion.

Jenna_Rink30 · 2021-03-25T18:34:37+00:00

Yes the TRP men are embarrassing to see. I think part of the reason I will not call myself a RPW is because people will think I’m akin to TRP men and god no.

nosleepincrooklyn · 2021-03-25T17:45:50+00:00

The 20/80 rule will always exist no matter how much the red pill men don’t want it too.

hotdogs35785 · 2021-03-25T19:27:55+00:00

So glad I found a traditional man! He is wonderful!!!

daddy_luvs_punkin · 2021-03-25T18:26:47+00:00

I don't remember what her username was, but someone on this sub once pointed out that the first stage of grieving is anger, and that is the majority of what you witness on TRP. These men are angry because the script they had been operating by their whole lives was outdated or in some instances outright false. I understand that grief because I lived it myself.

I 100% agree that HVM can come out of TRP if they stop focusing on the "prize" of getting laid and start focusing on themselves. That can only happen if they move through and past their grief.

TRP changed my life because it gave me the seeds to plant that led me to where I am today. But I didn't just drop the seeds on the ground and hope for the best. I water and fertilize and find new ways to cultivate myself. It's a never ending journey. Not a destination. But there are some amazing sights along the way if you can dry your man tears enough to see them.

Edit: typos

phylez · 2021-03-25T18:43:48+00:00

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sonder_one · 2021-03-25T18:34:50+00:00

Suggesting that you should go to the TRP subreddit to find a Red-Pill-Certified™️ man is like suggesting you should go to Alcoholics Anonymous meetings to find men who don't struggle with alcohol.

The leaders of the meetings are probably good, but the attendees are, by definition, the kind you're looking to avoid.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't support the existence of the meetings.

Excellent_Trouble_97 · 2021-03-25T19:13:59+00:00

in conclusion rpw don't want counterculture men.

rpw want men that became successful thanks to some enlightenment but are also willing to attempt traditionalism again.

is this about right?

weirdfish42 · 2021-03-25T18:54:01+00:00

I still remain subbed to a variety of RP subs.

It's important to provide advice and support to other men going through their anger phase, as well as hear their stories.

flareking41 · 2021-03-25T19:25:13+00:00

The side bar material is there to help you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/7gn6sg/rpw_and_trp/

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