Ukrainian psychologist says 70% of his clients are men who at the start of the war took their wives to a safe place in Europe and came back to Ukraine, only for their wives to ditch them for European husbands. He asks what's wrong with Ukrainian women?

TekatoZikame2 · 2023-09-10T14:06:04+00:00

It's not just UKRAINIAN women. I'm willing to bet same situation will occur in every country dragged into war.

This disloyalty baffles me.

AdComprehensive6588 · 2023-09-10T13:06:04+00:00

Ukraine as well as most post-Soviet countries were so extremely poor post collapse that they developed an incredibly materialistic culture as a result. European men being so much richer leads to…Well this.

HatefulClosetedGay · 2023-09-10T14:10:20+00:00

Women are most attracted to the best available option to them. Men are attracted to building on what he has creating a legacy, women are hypergamous.

ijustdontcare74 · 2023-09-10T13:59:21+00:00

Honestly, who didn’t see this coming a mile off?

asdf333aza · 2023-09-10T14:46:05+00:00

I work in medicine. I posted about this before, and people thought I was making it up. During my obgyn block, every week, I saw at least 2 to 3 Ukrainian refugee women come in who were newly pregnant. They arrived in America and were pregnant within less than half a year of being here.

I'm thinking, "how are you over here having sex, while the men of your country are getting shot at?". They found some American or some other male refugee to shack up with and start having sex before they found jobs. Before they even learned English. Before they had money to feed themselves, they were already sucking the dicks of foreign men from foreign lands. And I remember one particular case where the woman was Ukrainian and the father of the child was a RUSSIAN male of fighting age! They are having anchor babies! They have no intention of returning to Ukraine. The Ukrainian men are essentially fighting for nothing at this point other than the land.

But lets be hypothetical and say Ukraine successfully defends off Russia and keeps their land (or whats left of it). And let's say these women give up their children's American citizenship and do come back, are the remaining Ukrainian men going to cucked and raise all these children that their women have had with all these foreign men while they were away? All of these little Chads and Tyrones and Enriques from America going back to the Ukraine to live in their mother's home country? We all know it ain't going to happen like that.

heeroena · 2023-09-10T14:54:45+00:00

Hypergamy doesn't care https://youtu.be/mC149YY2G-I?si=c0AD_ZEm5tL0TUnh

self-stim · 2023-09-10T15:50:16+00:00

Martial law and military service were some of the biggest mistakes of mankind

TheLonerCoder · 2023-09-10T17:44:43+00:00

This isn't even uncommon. There are SOO many married women in UKR just fucking about whilst their men are fighting.

Everything about this 'war' is sketch and fucking infuriating.

ButWhatOfGlen · 2023-09-10T15:04:33+00:00

Loyalty from women, is a fool's errand. It used to be "enforced" by social morés... Which are now non-existent.

Ralph_Marbler · 2023-09-10T17:24:33+00:00

Women rarely know shit about loyalty and accountability.

zero_cool69 · 2023-09-10T16:59:26+00:00

It’s not just Ukrainian women

Forward-Transition-5 · 2023-09-10T18:18:18+00:00

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Yingxiang · 2023-09-10T13:54:54+00:00

Women. Not ukaranian.

HighBrow_Ed · 2023-09-10T20:21:27+00:00

I mean that’s about as anti feminist as you can get, traditionally that is what women have always done. In times of war and instability, they will go with whoever is stronger, they are ensuring resources and protection for their offspring. Just hard to see it real time over a war that shouldn’t even be happening.

Space_Exploring7_6 · 2023-09-10T17:11:33+00:00

It's not Ukranian women, it's all of them... I've meet women from all continents. This is how they truly are. Self-centered... Men are only a means to an end. Once that end has been reached, if a new ride shows along, bye, bye buddy.

For them human interact with men must be a Mario bros video game, jumping from one block to another.

Regarding time frames I like to use this analogy. Men are mobiles that if possible "economically" are replaced every five to seven years, but are not made aware that they are being ditched till the tenth year.

They have no sense of loyalty, honor, or romance. All these three are men traits.

Fresh-Brilliant4550 · 2023-09-10T23:03:09+00:00

Women will always be women. This is why they should be thrown to the front lines to fight for their homeland too. I wouldn’t even want to protect these women if I lived in the Ukraine. At this point let it all collapse.

Shameless_Gay_Guy · 2023-09-10T13:00:57+00:00

I'm glad I'm gay.

Dirjang94 · 2023-09-10T15:08:54+00:00

Funny. You come back from war and the most traumatic that happened to you is your wife leaving you for someone else.

BigBobsBassBeats-B4 · 2023-09-10T18:24:40+00:00

It's just what women do, bro

RabbitSmoking-A-Pipe · 2023-09-10T18:38:48+00:00

I'd say this was pretty standard in these circumstances. In times of conflict, the three basic options are fight, flight and befriend. Women can use the third option a lot easier and more often because physical aggression in wartime is usually done by men (because sending squads of women into war zones is laughable) and women (whether they admit it or not) know their greatest power is their sexuality and it's a lot easier to get someone to think positively of you is to open their legs and give their aggressor orgasms.

MaximusNaidu · 2023-09-11T23:42:03+00:00

Never trust a women...even your mother...period.

Combatmedic2-47 · 2023-09-10T13:41:48+00:00

I mean even before Maiden and the war the infrastructure and gov of Ukraine was corrupt and poor. People took the first chance they got to get out. I want to blame them but this is common behavior. Hell I’ve seen men from Asia do it.

SpecificGlans · 2023-09-10T14:13:22+00:00

Stupid alpha sigma guys still want to fight for their country and say other men unmasculine who don't want to kill themselves and be cuck.

TheLonerCoder · 2023-09-10T19:39:50+00:00

Am not surprised. Women don't have the same loyalty men have, due to evolution. When societies were conquered & the men were killed off, women were pretty much forced to adapt to the conquerors. Only loyal to their own wellbeing and their offsprings.

Max13122 · 2023-09-10T14:02:15+00:00

Ukraine is anyways fighting a fruitless war, they should have negotiated way back and developed friendly relationship with Russia rather than getting into all these nuisances, Ukraine women knows that their Ukrainian husbands are not returning from war, win of Ukraine against Russia is equivalent of defeat of USA by cuba, both are not possible

ImmaDrainOnSociety · 2023-09-11T00:49:17+00:00

This is a translated version of a ~~stolen~~ "freebooted" video.

If you understand Ukrainian, the original guy is @stanis_laves

2023-09-11T05:52:14+00:00

Yeah they even destroyed many european families, most of those european men were already married. Many european mothers have opened their houses to those Ukranian women to help them just to end up being cheated on their own house.

https://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20220524/deja-mujer-refugiada-ucraniana-acogerla-amor-primera/674932871_0.amp.html

Right_Pepe · 2023-09-11T14:41:20+00:00

Can't say it is shocking but it is still depressing.

Diocletian_R244NA · 2023-09-12T18:12:52+00:00

classic women.

rundmc214 · 2023-09-12T23:43:26+00:00

I firmly believe the West is a matriarchy. Everything is emotionally based and reactive. No honor, no pride, no resolve. It's all based on a falsified sense of safety and empty consumerism, which is just a neurotic manifestation of insecurity. MEN provide that security. Women provide the love and comfort, atleast in a healthy society. Weak men make hard times. Strong men, welcome to the hard times. It's our turn to lead the pack. Do so with honor, courage, and selflessness.

My heart goes out to anyone who is a casualty of this.

StarCitizen117 · 2023-09-10T18:32:08+00:00

It's the sole nature of women

WEZIACZEQ · 2023-09-10T17:37:01+00:00

Its crazy how I understand most of it as a Pole :O

ShoCkEpic · 2023-09-10T18:55:31+00:00

because we are not wired the same

a woman will find peace in PROTECTION of herself and unconsciously find protection for her children

it s not because she doesn’t “love” her ex ukrainian husband

it s just how they have been programmed for 300 000 years,

it s also one of the reason human specie was able to survive for that long

a woman will know instinctively what is best for her children, what they need to prosper, even if she doesn’t have any or doesn’t plan to have any, it s ingrained in us because we have been programmed like that for so long

same goes for men and their desire for dominance and war and fights

they know since the dawn of time that they have to defend their territory, that’s why we are always obsessed by anything remotely competitive, that’s why we are also obsessed in the VAST majority by power and technology

vlasquez · 2023-09-10T21:05:32+00:00

Asking loyalty to a talking vagina is like asking wine to your oven

Mysonking · 2023-09-10T19:37:54+00:00

What proves this is a trustable source. This can be Russia propaganda coming from any where.

IncredibleMrO · 2023-09-11T03:33:12+00:00

Women nature 🥱

IncredibleMrO · 2023-09-11T03:33:49+00:00

Women nature 🥱

AliceTheBread · 2023-09-11T02:54:29+00:00

You only live once. Why would you live there and wonder when your husband is going to get killed and you will be left with nothing while you age and getting less chances of finding someone in the future. Same reason for not wanting to fight in the war for a country thats not worth it. I think loyalty ends fir each gender ends when you get literally nothing in return for it.

S3_Zed · 2023-09-10T13:35:50+00:00

welcome to late stage capitalism. self serving is the only thing that exists. there are no values whatsoever. only self-gain and greed.

TabaCh1 · 2023-09-11T00:26:31+00:00

What’s the tiktok?

infinitofluxo · 2023-09-11T03:39:37+00:00

The law of nature is to be always expected. Sometimes a hungry lion will not eat you. But they usually would.

True love and loyalty are rare in nature. Women think of their survival first, unless it is their offspring in harm's way. Men are usually disposable as they would prefer death than seeing their family harmed. It is their function in nature. Women must survive and keep babies coming. Another man looking as better assurance is the intelligent choice.

This truth hurts. True love comes from the intellect, it is a construct that distances people from their nature. It follows another ethics.

mpusar · 2023-09-11T06:31:23+00:00

I did 8 years in the army. The women I served with about 90% of them would cheat on their men back home.

Fast-Mongoose-4989 · 2023-09-11T07:22:25+00:00

I wonder what the comments on tick tock are like

redditspider1234 · 2023-09-11T15:43:19+00:00

Hypergamy doesn’t care.

Morphiadz · 2023-09-11T21:08:20+00:00

Most women are looking for better opportunities or someone who can offer more. So I think that once placed in a ''better'' location, they just move along use their beauty/body/etc to try to lure in a man who can secure a better life/more money for them.

I'm Russian/Ukrainian and a lot of the women have recently been running from those countries and marrying whoever just to get out. There are so many mail order bride websites based over there, and almost all of the women I've met of my ethnic background married someone to secure their green card and/or had a baby right away. Usually the man is way older, unattractive, or even from another race/culture totally foreign to them but it is worth just getting out for them and then figuring out where to go next. Most of them abandon their husband and move along once settled. I've seen it quite a few times.

I love my culture very much but this side of it is something very problematic and unfortunately modern. For a long time women from those countries were more traditional and sticked by their husbands but times are changing everywhere.

TabaCh1 · 2023-09-11T22:43:29+00:00

Anyone got a link to the tiktok

vogelbekdier · 2023-09-11T23:09:26+00:00

honestly, this just sounds like Russian demoralization propoganda.

NotTheAverageAnon · 2023-09-13T13:17:44+00:00

Marriage is a mistake and the average man has negative reasons to ever have one. They only have something to lose and nothing to gain.

Forward-Taste8956 · 2023-09-13T13:54:11+00:00

Fucking sad

ankhmor · 2023-09-13T19:21:59+00:00

Why is he speaking russian?

TerryGriggs · 2023-09-20T08:40:00+00:00

Is this related to feminism or women more broadly being disloyal? Ukraine is hardly a beacon for feminism

z0kiss · 2023-10-11T11:27:47+00:00

Sounds like a skill issue for men to me

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