As a man with low confidence and LOw value inspite of high technical achievement, women seem to be ... Hedonistic

wtknight · 2023-11-04T18:09:52+00:00

Removed. No woe-is-me posts.

MidoriEgg · 2023-11-04T17:37:09+00:00

Some people find more meaning living for purpose rather than for pursuit of pleasure, but it’s worrying if nothing is making you happy. Have you always felt this way? Does anything bring you joy? Do you think you are depressed or do you think this is your natural temperament? Would you ever consider talking therapy?

Capital-Literature-9 · 2023-11-04T17:38:21+00:00

Pursue what is meaningful, not what is expedient.

However that doesn't mean you can't find happiness in the meaningful pursuits of your life. It's the people and things in your life that actually matter to you that should bring you true fulfilment.

It's difficult to prioritise my happiness because I don't really thing I deserve it...

I am lucky in that I lucked into becoming a surgeon...

You EARNED your position of surgeon. No one just accidentally lands a position that requires that much skill and knowledge. Life is unfair, it's not about what you "deserve", it's about what you can attain. And if you can get it, take it.

Your mindset limits you. Your life is yours to control, you're a participant. So participate and earn everything you can.

NeverSeenA1Thirteen · 2023-11-04T17:40:35+00:00

I think the concept of whether not your existence is worthy of continuing as an individual is flawed. Healthy people are by nature designed to live as long as possible so it’s seem to be more of a fundamental objective than an objective that needs some requirement before continuing

As a member of society I think that there is some requirements that we need to bring which is to help the system functioning to some capacity whether that is being a stay at home mom to replace the plummeting birth rates or being a surgeon to save people!

I think you’re right that happiness shouldn’t be the end all be all on the societal level, but on the individual level that’s seems to be a fundamental goal so why not strive towards it without having to debate whether we are worthy or not of it?

CompetitiveTennis112 · 2023-11-04T17:59:47+00:00

I don't really understand how "being worth it" correlates with not prioritizing your own happiness. There's no point in life if you don't think it's fulfilling or bringing you joy. I don't even know why you're saying this is not moral 😂

All people are worthless. Women are worthless, and men are worthless. It's up to you whether you interpret this as horrible or liberating. Hinging your value on what "society" thinks of you is pointless because society will always rate you 0 at one point or another.

If you're always a 0 if you can't always achieve [insert thing], then why bother? Prioritize the things you like to do, and the things you want to do.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2023-11-04T18:04:05+00:00

How do you exist without almost debating the worth of your own existence?

I never asked to be here, yet here I am. My existence is not more or less important than that of a trust fund kid or that of a cashier at Walmart. The world would go on just fine if all three of us stopped existing today, the world would be fine if you stopped existing. I just want to make my time here as happy as I can for myself, for my loved ones, and to be of use to society in some way, as minor as it might be. I find purpose in my job but I also find purpose in knitting a pair of socks for my friend or feeding the local stray cats back home. I also find purpose in enjoying a new game or a new book, traveling, and trying out new foods, I get to experience a small part of the beauty of this planet and human creativity.

I don't constantly wonder if my existence is worth it. To humanity in general? It means fuck all. To my parents/friends/my husband? It matters. Nobody is here because their soul got picked as ''god enough to be allowed to exist'' and now we have to justify our existence to some God or The Universe (unless you believe in that sort of stuff). We're all here for a limited time, so we have to figure out what makes it worthwhile for ourselves. For some it's creating a family, for others it's work, and some people just want to party their way through their lives without any deeper meaning. If work gives you joy and meaning, that's fine. If it doesn't bring you any happiness, and you want to fix that, take some time to explore things that might give you that.

Pathosgrim · 2023-11-04T17:09:04+00:00

Sucks doesn't it? Society tells you, you must do good, and never be an average man. Women then say your success doesn't entitle you to anything. Also, you shouldn't question what is moral. Morals really don't matter in society, especially in America.

AceOfSpadesGymBro2 · 2023-11-04T17:22:38+00:00

If you don't see any value or worth within yourself, if you can't be happy because you haven't achieved something by society's standards, then you really need to look internally and solve those problems with therapy.

Contrary to popular belief, your value is not determined by other people, your profession, your success with women or lack there of. There is only one person who can give you value and self worth and that person is you. You are the only arbiter of your worth. Everyone else can have an opinion and judge you, of course, but as long as your own opinion of you is more important than theirs, that's all that matters.

Curious_Attention719 · 2023-11-04T17:12:16+00:00

Western women play life on training mode unless they're abhorrently ugly. We constantly coddle them, give them multiple outs for bad decisions (men only have two real forms of birth control besides abstinence, men are usually not the winners in family court and men don't get the benefits of affirmative action or government assistance), tell them whatever they do is right and just and society has told men to take care of women. Thus, women can afford to be hedonistic because there usually are little to no consequences for them.

Meanwhile, reality is harsh for a man. Poor men have to struggle to get to "middle-class," bad decisions most of the time have immediate consequences, and we tell them to suck things up and take it like a man. Honestly, with how little Western women offer besides pussy (and of those, how many offer dead starfish sex), you're better off getting hookers and a maid while getting a surrogate for kids should you want them, and I'm religious.

grown_folks_talkin · 2023-11-04T17:28:17+00:00

You have to read between the lines. Social media aimed at women is constantly tell them how worthy they are. The pure fact of how ubiquitous this stuff is means there are other forces making them feel less worthy.

A simile phenomenon is that if a group has a pride movement, there are usually large-scale societal forces treating them as lesser.

For men, you’re right this messaging for us is “You ain’t shit unless you’re making money, putting your life on the line for society or exceptionally hot.”

The messaging aimed at women is more subtle (at least to me), largely exists in meatspace and not online.

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bread93096 · 2023-11-04T17:43:48+00:00

Would you say no to pleasurable experiences if they were freely offered to you? I’m guessing not. If women live hedonistically it’s because they don’t really have to seek it out, it just happens.

passportbro999 · 2023-11-04T18:00:20+00:00

You need to passport bro or date immigrant women from Asia. American women don't care about anything that matters for a long term relationship, like education, emotions, status, money. They want to shout they dont need a man .

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2023-11-04T18:04:16+00:00

so you're saying that being fun and hedonistic is a good way to keep boring no fun plank of woodcmen away from me, good

Title	As a man with low confidence and LOw value inspite of high technical achievement, women seem to be ... Hedonistic
Author	AdEffective7894s
Upvotes	2
Comments	47
Date	November 4, 2023 5:00 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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