The myth of so called "Bad Boys" has eventually been debunked. Men that embody "Narcissism" and similarly associated attributes are perceived as more attractive by women, whereas "Machiavellianism" and "Psychopathy" are not.

Digedag · 2023-11-24T00:17:05+00:00

This is such a shit study. They come up with one bogus profiles of people with each category. Then they let women and men rate them (although genders of bogus profiles are always the opposite gender).

By giving your subjects profiles, instead of looking into the lives of actual people dark triad people, you are obviously getting biased responses.

For example a man who lies a lot to get with a women will have more success, but obviously the point of all that is that the woman does not know about his personality.

PartGlobal1925 · 2023-11-24T09:03:37+00:00

"A man's loyalty is tested when he has everything."

"A woman's loyalty is tested when he has nothing."

Kamui_Dimension · 2023-11-24T04:52:41+00:00

This is bullshit.

Dark triad men of all three types get tons of women. I have seen so many examples in my own life and in the media.

Bad boys always get the girl.

Ive even experienced this in my own dating life, when Im aloof and I treat girls like shit they fall in love with me.

When I am romantic and by them flowers they lose interest and dump me.

Nelo999 · 2023-11-23T16:35:07+00:00

Women are definitely attracted to more "Masculine" men, but they simultaneously expect such men to be competent, reliable, dependable, romantic, tender, caring and committed.

What many self-proclaimed "Incels" and "Nice Guys" cannot understand is they happen to be unsuccessful with women not because they are kind, but because they are(to put it bluntly)not "Masculine" enough.

Besides, just 1% of the entire population can be classified as "Psychopaths", as it would not make Evolutionary sense for women to procreate with unstable, abusive and violent men that could potentially lead to the collapse of their own families as well as society in it's entirety.

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Cat_City_Cool · 2023-11-27T04:01:16+00:00

So edginess is attractive, but being cruel and manipulative isn't.

I could have told you that lmao.

MainDatabase6548 · 2023-11-24T04:35:28+00:00

Did you even read the study? All 3 were viewed unfavorably, the narcissist just wasn't as bad as the other 2.

HeftyCarrot7304 · 2023-11-24T21:32:42+00:00

To be hoe-est. I think it has something to do with the raw intelligence and not necessarily the trait. I think a woman is cognizant of the fact that she can be a dirty girl but it’s not the dark men that appeal to them but the dark acts that they do. Eg catching an innocent bystander offguard. It’s something about the act that makes it feel like the alpha dominance is established. The fact that the other guy was not prepared has nothing to do with this. But of course I say that knowing full well that God will punish me for it because I wish it weren’t that way. I wish women indeed did the right thing every time. But they don’t and they don’t choose men with dark traits but rather men with dark traits often do stuff in the real world that could be perceived as domination. But kind things like; investing in bonds and helping out at a volunteer org although could be better in the long run because it doesn’t destabilize another human being’s life it’s just not sexy enough. It is sexy and for the right kind of oxytocin based relationship it’s probably even better but it’s definitely not your front page porn.

ma1ewif3 · 2023-11-25T02:35:07+00:00

sorry to be that guy, i swear i mean this with true concern, but maybe all of you (doing this self pitying and blaming of women in society) would pull some if you didn't look around you and apply these preconceived ideas. EVERYONE (including women believe it or not) has a past, traumas, complex desires and emotions. the people you look at aren't characters destined to prove your point. get to know them. share yourself, who are you? if you don't know how to answer, there is zero place to assume any of this about women's lives and desires. do some self and societal reflection that doesn't stroke some part of your ego. i'm being nice here. this is advice. i understand feeling small and unseen, but it is truly just pathetic to say women have an innate desire to be hurt. a lot of these women have already been hurt, its what they know; its comfort. who do YOU know that is identifying and dealing with their pasts and concerns, 100% perfectly, all of the time? what do you do to cope? do you have healthy ideals? likely in some way, no. seriously guys, grow up.

alicia-indigo · 2023-11-26T04:47:31+00:00

If I had a dollar for every female friend who has fallen for a scumbag, I’d retire.

cishet-camel-fucker · 2023-11-24T22:47:26+00:00

So...not debunked. Nice.

Vibat0 · 2023-11-25T00:52:03+00:00

False. That’s why women prefer to procreate with them then hope for a “normal” guy to be the step dad.

SS333SS · 2024-07-19T16:28:40+00:00

I don't see what this study is for. I thought the point is that, in theory, most women would logically think they want a nice guy, and that dark triad traits are bad. However, in practice, they still go for bad boys, as we observe. So what is the point in asking them to rate profiles? Logic and attraction often conflict here. Asking a woman to say "yeah i want to fuck that" when presented with a profile of "I tend to manipulate people" is going to seem weird to her, but in actual practice, many of these "manipulators" seem to do pretty well when it comes to attraction.

Of course, they still have to be good looking. The test subject could probably just imagine the average man and be completely turned off by them. Well I don't personally believe dark triad traits are important, imo it just the opposite, that looks are everything and even if you have bad personality, it becomes good personality as long as you're hot.

Myagooshki2 · 2024-08-18T21:58:54+00:00

Narcissism is more moral than machiavellianism or psychopathy, especially validation narcissism.

--Edog-- · 2023-11-25T10:36:35+00:00

Reddit has some of the smartest people in the world, promulgating some incredibly laughable studies.

gloom_spewer · 2023-11-24T18:18:20+00:00

Idk I'm high in triad traits in general and I met my best gf recently while in mostly-ish-remission. Some people do enjoy genuine affection.

sphinxMANIFEST · 2023-11-26T22:36:55+00:00

Any psychologist worth their weight knows narcissism is just psychopathy-lite. Bullshit study. These so-called scientists are camouflaging their own psychopathy in their hierarchical consensus trance by glorifying narcissism. Typical psychopaths. Might of as well compare sociopath, oppositional defiant disorder and constitutional inferiority complex while you're at. what does it matter? they're all volatile diseases on the planet earth if by magic somehow walking around with whatever flicker of bitchiness they possess.

BoysenberryDry9196 · 2023-11-28T23:49:56+00:00

Anyone who was truly Machiavellian or psychopathic (in the manner that benefits their ability to have sex) would not outwardly demonstrate those traits. In other words, it's only showing what happens to those with low social intelligence.

ItoshiSae10 · 2023-11-29T06:43:24+00:00

There was another which showed psychopathy does. Its 50/50

eduardkoopman · 2023-12-16T14:17:24+00:00

Study is not greatly designed, to draw much irl consequences from.
flaws in the study design, imo:
1. it doesn't track irl behavior. it showed women a picture, with textual assigned personality traits to a man. This assumes, that women would also irl be able to assess these personality traits of a man over "short" time, in the way he talks/acts. I think most women don't. They may percieve the low0ish self-esteem overcompensating dude, as confident. They may percieve the fake acted generousity of the Machiavelli guy, as a true altruistic man. etc....

PickleFlipFlops · 2023-12-27T04:34:54+00:00

I think women just want a man that can get shit done.

Being in a relationship is like being with a battle buddy in a war, if the guy you're with, that is there to keep you alive, starts to panic, fuck things up, make mistakes, shows incompetence....

You aren't going to feel to secure and you are going to want to be put with someone else.

Women don't want mean, evil, or bad men.

But they need men that can keep them safe from he world.

Ok_Boat_9040 · 2024-01-26T03:11:48+00:00

I fr need to be the scheming mastermind in the relationship he can be the pretty face

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