Is fighting ever justified?

Yonski3 · 2018-03-20T06:16:58+00:00

I have been trained in both "krav maga" and maui Thai for few years.

first thing they teach you in Krav Maga is that the first thing you should do is always try and avoid getting physical if possible. meaning that you should only fight someone if that is your only option to get out of a dangerous situation.

you can never know if the punch you throw at someone might leave them brain dead and you in prison for 10+ years or if their friend will pull out a pistol or knife and damage you badly.

TheProphetPhysiquiel · 2018-03-20T07:09:27+00:00

Yes. Avoid getting physical as your first approach, and avoid getting in fights with drunk dudes at the club (and avoid being the drunk dude at the club, but that's a different topic). But sometimes a dickhead with a thick skull doesn't get it the first time, or the second time.

All I would add to this is you better commit to your actions. If you're gonna hit him, fucking hit him, because he's gonna be coming right back at you. Be prepared to suffer the consequences of your actions.

frequentlywrong · 2018-03-20T07:59:29+00:00

Modern approach: Film him being a racist fuck, post it online and destroy his life.

_Ulan_ · 2018-03-20T11:32:15+00:00

the attacker wants to get into a fight, whereas your friend doesn't. So once the fight started, your friend fell in the opponent's frame.

The only way to have a justified fight is if the attacker punches first (self defence). As long as he is being a dick, just make him look ridiculous or leave

1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v · 2018-03-20T11:49:28+00:00

At the party, my friend lost his frame and decided he had enough and punched the guy.

Your friend can be arrested for assault. That arrest record will affect the rest of his life, preventing him from getting betters jobs for more money.

Now... if the guy he hit had significant injuries, your bro can be charged with Felony Assault. A conviction on assault 2 with no priors would mean a 3 to 9 month sentence and on assault 3, 1 to 3 months. For both of these charges one could receive jail time or some jail alternative (such as work release) and then would have a period of probation of up to 12 months.

So.. is doing something like punching someone ever justified?

What do you think?

P.S. Most states do not allow expungement of Violent Felonies...

Unlucky_Leader · 2018-03-20T12:53:51+00:00

Train martial arts.

ReddJive · 2018-03-20T13:54:00+00:00

Fighting is justified if you can prove true self defense. What’s missing with most dojo heroes is they fail to learn their local Laws and ordinances regarding self defense.

Like technology understanding the law is a survival skill.

SimplyDoughpe · 2018-03-20T17:45:58+00:00

Fighting is justified only when you know it’s going to happen regardless of your efforts to diffuse. Seriously, pretty sure I saw someone die once because of a pointless fight.

It’s usually only drunk guys that are going to ignore your efforts to diffuse.

Also, if you know there is going to be a fight, hit first.

Edit: sentence

Duzand · 2018-03-20T17:46:21+00:00

Yes, it is. I'm surprised at the number of pacifists here with seemingly endless variations of, "No way man you might get in trouble" cop-out to avoid fighting when a fight is brought to you. Sometimes you have to pop someone in the mouth when they're not getting the hint. It's how the world works.

fade2clear · Tue Mar 20 19:39:16 2018 UTC

Everybody has a line. Where you draw that line depends on what you're willing to tolerate. Sometimes you can't help but engage a habitual line stepper.

If somebody spits in my face, we're fighting, for instance.

MuhTriggersGuise · 2018-03-20T21:44:20+00:00

I'd say fighting is never justified, and I'm a guy who likes to fight and have been in a few in my time. The only time it's justified is when physically attacked, and don't be an asshole and bait someone into attacking you, no matter how much you want to fight them.

redd_reality · 2018-03-21T04:05:29+00:00

"He punched the guy... He thinks the guy is still a racist, but.."

Lmaoo ya that's probably a safe bet.

redd_reality · 2018-03-21T04:12:11+00:00

I'd go with the same, tried and tested combo, same as always: A&A and Amused Mastery.

You hold frame and you can break down literaly anyone. Or, he'll swing, in which case it's open season on his ass.

minicheff · 2018-03-20T07:29:30+00:00

Never, unless you can't run.

firewaterdirt · 2018-03-20T11:53:16+00:00

I would say your friend was in the right. And if someone asks why he did it he should just say exactly what happened and I think they would understand.

GoRedBad · 2018-03-20T11:00:02+00:00

Your friend lost frame, made it clear to everyone present that the guy was getting under his skin. Maybe that guy will think twice, but now everyone else knows how to push your friend's buttons.

fnordsnord · 2018-03-20T14:29:47+00:00

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Title	Is fighting ever justified?
Author	midnight_metro
Upvotes	16
Comments	39
Date	March 20, 2018 6:08 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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