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[–]Dracron 87 points88 points89 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Improving your circumstances is probably the baseline of improvement for seduction. Any improvement in your circumstances has the side effect of effecting you confidence as well, so not only does it make your life better personally it also moves the gears forward on most of the aspects that are key to seduction that aren't the actual experience of approaches and escalation.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is true; it's in line with the social hierarchy if you think about it. Independent, self reliable, has his shit together is always much more attractive than a guy with looks because looks/fitness doesn't translate into higher statutes in human minds. We're much to complex intellectually for it to be that simple.
[–]mabden 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can have everything going in your favor, but if the logistics aren't right, it can easily derail the night.
[–]NOVAcaledonia268 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Most people still get together through work, school, courses, family, friends in common and etc. A woman is much more likely to show interest in you if you meet organically than by cold approaching or OLD. Thats why you see so Many average guys with good looking Girls. The guy who is a 6 has a better chance of hooking up with a girl if they happen to be at the same College party than a guy who is a 8 and matches with her on Tinder.
[–]jobbo321 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whenever I have a party with my friends, the girlfriends never bring their friends along :(.
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[–]coachmelloweyes 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Finally someone who gets it. I have a very short and handsome friend who works in a bar as of recent… he tells stories of how he fucks daily because of it.
Yesterday I visited and saw in live in the flesh. It’s all about positioning.
Be enough and be in the right place.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
lol this is it, he’s a bartender?
[–]coachmelloweyes 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah bartender… easy work.
If guys were smart they’d legit stop going out to night game and get a club job.
[–]nordik1 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Very astute points OP! That's why they say, "location, location, location". You could be a 2 in one place and a 9 in another.
Interesting tidbit about the Latino workplace. I live & work in Southern California. Latinos are known for sticking to their own and are not as afflicted with "white is right" like Asians are. If your taller, fitter, more handsome friend was in an exclusively White or Asian workplace, he may have had more luck.
People need to know their audience and go where they are appreciated if they wish to be successful in the dating and mating marketplace.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Right although the friend was black
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Ahhhh...my bad. Makes even more sense. They really don't fuck with Black people. Of course there's always exceptions but for the most part, Latinos don't care for Black people, especially Black men.
My ex-H is Black/White and said he noticed Latinas were "standoffish" towards him. Put simply, they weren't going out of their way to engage with him.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol they don’t
[–]SwimComfortable7465 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As a black guy myself, I always assumed they hated being lumped in with black people or the stereotypes or anything
[–]FightForDemocracyNow 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Hmm I'm white, blonde hair blue eyes, and historically speaking ive had the best luck with latinas.
Good for you? Exceptions don't make the rule. Generally speaking though, they tend to stick to their own. I'm surrounded by Latinos (mostly Mexicans), live 25 miles from the US/Mexico border and it's rare to see them mixing.
[–]FightForDemocracyNow 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Perhaps another thing to consider is that the majority of the population in southern California is majority Latino so they don't have many opportunities to mix. I'm some cities and neighborhoods the Hispanic population is as high as 90%.
There are plenty of other groups here in SoCal, it's 40% Latino. If they wanted to mix, they could. They just prefer their own, that is most people. The only exception is Asian women, who marry outside their race at a high 50%. Everyone else, regardless of gender, overwhelmingly date and marry their own.
IR are not as common as people may think. They just stick out more but they're hardly the majority.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My friend wasn’t white lol
[–]StereoFood -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, same. Has to do with diversifying our genes
[–]rustoof 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This os why my number one advice for 18 year old guys going to college is to join a fraternity. Circumstances are king
[–]Whuann 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Instructions unclear, got circumcised.
Undisputed facts.
[–]biokaizen 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Compare both on tinder, the latino fatty has nothing to do versus the other good looking friend.
The fatty latino has to wait opportunities
[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dating apps are not everything, obviously. People need to know their audience and go where they are appreciated if they wish to be more successful in dating/mating.
[–]freel0der 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Online dating is different. The girls can’t feel your energy/Charisma or charm and other traits that makes one more attractive. You are at a major disadvantage from the start. On tinder as a guy you are often just a spec of dust as a average guy there.
[–]Glenncinho 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I’ve seen this before. I’m half Latino half white but definitely more on the “gringo” side. I can speak Spanish and have secured my fair sure of lays with Latina girls but I remember at least two instances I went after someone to be my girlfriend (both Mexican) and they ended up choosing the very Mexican man over me.
It kinda hit the ego but I noticed that these women very much wanted to stay within their culture - that is those cowboy Mexican men types, Coronas, vaquero music, micheladas, etc etc, beside the want to have that Mexican upbringing for their child from both parents (one of those girls has since had a daughter).
In that aspect, it makes sense. I’m not that type of guy and surely our relationship would be more of a mix culture thing.
It is what it is. Regardless, any time you have with people!
[–]readMyFlow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What is circumstances in this context?
[–]puma085 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very wise words. The circumstances are not the same for everybody though. Some have better circumstances than others. But in general, I would say very good advice.
[–]Bobybraun -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, well no
[–]vroomvroomski -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Nah op is right and I'm living proof.
I'm a short skinny dude with an alright face, probably objectively a 5 or 6. But I have a lot of circumstances going for me like being rich, talented, funny, smart, popular, and well connected.
Every time my circumstances get upgraded the girls get better. I'm now dating a girl who, if you told me I was dating a year ago, I would've thought you're joking
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Are you a musician ?
[–]vroomvroomski -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but not very famous, only 15k followers on ig and a few hundred k streams
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
15k on IG is really good, mind I DM you ?
[–]vroomvroomski -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go ahead :)
[–]Snakehead004 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you are truly living your best life.. Or a no fucks left life.. Women will swarm to you. Different types of women for each senerio..
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