I have a hard time believing I am in the league of the women I'm attracted to, and even feel like there are guys leagues above me!

upandup123 · 2016-07-04T11:43:55+00:00

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g4casting · 2016-07-05T12:52:19+00:00

From personal experience, unless a girl is a total bitch, or you really come off as creepy/unkempt, when it comes to hot girls they usually respond positively to any kind of unapologetic, confident behavior. For the hot girls, the most unattractive thing is people who make them uncomfortable or can't be at ease around them. It makes them feel weird and ill at ease that you can't be yourself around them. I know a guy who is 216 cm and 180 kg at 19 yrs old, and he is honestly weird looking but he doesn't give the slightest fuck, is very confident and outgoing. I recall many hot girls just loving the fact that he wasn't ashamed of who he was.

From personal experience too, I have completely changed the way I view girls in general, and it made me realize how even the hottest bitches out there can be easily accessible if you believe it. I arrived in a hostel and there was a friend of mine sitting on a couch and a very hot brunette at the other end of the couch. They didn'y know each other. I started catching up with my friend and thought I had been impolite by not introducing myself, so I just leaned to her and told her my name, she gave me hers we shook hands and just had small talk. I then told her I came that morning by train and couldn't wait to go to the beach as I had been missing the ocean, she seemed to agree so I took her number, had a nap and we went to the beach together. Was very easy, casual, seemed like it happened naturally. Two years prior I would never even had the balls to say hi to her and would think that she'd not even answer or just to be polite. Just act like a man, a man isnt afraid of girls. A boy is

Jacob_961 · 2016-07-04T12:13:24+00:00

It's not whether or not there are leagues. It's either that you can create attraction or you cannot create attraction. You cannot create attraction if you are not attractive in the same way you cannot win at a competitive sport if you are not skilled. The only way to get what you want is to become the kind of person that naturally attracts what you want. If you want to generate attraction, be attractive. If you want to seduce, be seductive. My problem was that I was logical and friendly and expecting to generate attraction which is absurd. If you cannot get the type of girls that you want, you have to become the type of person these girls would be attracted to end up with them. This can only be achieved through trial and error and through practice and refinement and self critique. If this shit was as easy as just "self amuse" and have "freedom from outcome", I would be screwing Megan Fox by now.

Aeon199 · 2016-07-04T20:06:33+00:00

Environments like social media and the nightlife (bars/clubs) blow women's value way fucking up and lower men's value significantly. It's ridiculous how thin the line is between gaming the girls who the club parts ways for and gaming average looking girls. A lot of times she's just a 21 year old chick in college who works some front desk job, also consider the fact that the majority guys have the same mindset as you and thus don't approach. All it took was hooking up with ONE super hot chick and boom, mindset shifted.

depredador93 · 2016-07-04T11:57:23+00:00

Okay, so you logically know all these thoughts that go through your head are not true whatsoever. Why do you bother paying attention to them then?

You know the theory, now go practice. Even if these thoughts arise, why do you care, you know they're bs. I think it comes back to the wonderful phrase of 'Just do it'.

Self-ImprovementBAMF · 2016-07-04T14:50:07+00:00

I've had the same issue. As a late bloomer I look better than I ever did and I expected ext my Glo to continue. Women I consider "too fine" for me are usually receptive of me which is new and throws me off a bit. Personally I'm struggling between becoming confident in who I am and still viewing myself as ugly, not muscular enough, not rich enough, cars nice, not ice enough. Get used to telling yourself you are enough. and get used to starting conversation with strangers. More people will show you how interested they are in who you are the more you make the first statement. I have to keep reminding myself everyone is in their own head too much just like me. So go for it.

MojoRyzing · 2016-07-04T16:37:26+00:00

you realize that all this league non-sense can be washed away in a second? Take this scenario, you are at a train station, bus stop, wherever. You see a super hot chick, say a 10 on your scale, and she is alone. Unbeknownst to you she is actually lonely in her life because all her (girl)friends and other women are jealous because she is an absolute stunner (model-esque lets say but shes just a normal everyday working girl). She gets these snide, catty, passive-aggressive remarks all the time and shes tired of it. She just wants to have real, authentic interactions for once in her life. Now, all the dudes in her life put her on some completely made up pedestal and again all she gets is a facade of the actual guy.

But you come along and being the enlightened gentleman you are, you think "holy mother of a **** whaaaaa??!!!" And think "hmm, lets go see what she is about, who she is. What are her experiences in life that might be different from 'average' people." And you go up to her and have a chill, flirty, playful interaction. And unbeknownst to you, she hasnt had sex in weeks, maybe months, because no guy has the balls. But actually she's really horny. And you finish this story....

Turlast · 2016-07-04T21:32:10+00:00

I'm the same way. It's something you have to actively work at.

Overnight_Delivery · 2016-07-05T16:50:52+00:00

If you are looking more less to just hook up then being unique and yourself is the goal. People are looking to hook up with new and unique people even if that uniqueness is another league, so long as they have the confidence and kept'ness to follow through.

crash1082 · 2016-07-06T19:05:17+00:00

Don't worry about the 300 instagram followers thing. The girl I just met has 1500 and it's because she's hot. I'd be proud of it (as long as she's not nuts.)

SmoothPrimal · 2016-07-04T13:31:12+00:00

Sorry but leagues do exist. I see guys try so hard to get girls that I take for granted.

At the same time, I try hard to get girls that guys above my league take for granted.

Leagues exist, its based on status, looks, culture and genetics. for example if you are gangbanger you may score a pretty stripper that would be considered a 9 in looks but you would have no chance getting an ivy leage graduate 8 who has her entire life set has class, manner, loyalty and emotionally intelligent. The stripper may be hot but youll probably have a headache just keeping her in check and she will probably cheat on you. The ivy leage chick though, you can live a nice full life despite her being technically less attractive, she is a bigger fish to catch than the stripper.

Basically its almost impossible for a typical guy to get a 10 with fame and wealth. Thats why you dont see any pickup gurus score a rich celebrity no matter how good they are at game.

Looks and status does most of the work, but knowing game lets you get the higher end of your limitations.

Title	I have a hard time believing I am in the league of the women I'm attracted to, and even feel like there are guys leagues above me!
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Date	July 4, 2016 10:15 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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