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Is there a wall for men?

silver_nuke13

August 7, 2015
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Title Is there a wall for men?
Author

silver_nuke13

Upvotes 13
Comments 40
Date August 7, 2015 12:19 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/3g2l4b/is_there_a_wall_for_men/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/askTRP/is-there-a-wall-for-men.152077
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Comments

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev29 points30 points31 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes. It's called "Death"

[–]silver_nuke13 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I like the attitude

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where there is life, there is hope, and every moment is another chance to turn it all around.

So, as I have said before and say again, rejoice my brothers, that you were born male, and thus given the choice to be MEN--to dare great things, to achieve great things, to create, to invent, to think, to reason, to sing, to shout in joy and passion, to love and be loved and to enjoy the Juice of Life with our friends.

[–]BaconEggsAndSleaze 8 points8 points8 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Here are 5 bodybuilders over 70

[–]1RPSigmaStigma0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Right, but can they still get hard?

[–]throwawaymatthew0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

VIAGRA

[–]1RPSigmaStigma0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Viagra is like plastic surgery. A way of hiding being past the wall.

[–]throwawaymatthew1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

or its a way or dealing with a problem, what do you suggest guys in there 60's and 70s do, just lie down and fucking die

[–]1RPSigmaStigma0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, not at all. I'm just saying, if we're trying to figure out where "the wall" is for men, I would say the day you have to use viagra. I'm not saying don't use viagra.

[–]Squeezymypenisy0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's wrong with plastic surgery? Those silcone boobs still feel good.

[–]1RPSigmaStigma0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When did I say there was anything wrong with it. I'm just making the analogy that just like how women get around the effects of the wall with things like plastic surgery, men get around it with things like viagra.

[–]dandar46007 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ask Hugh Hefner.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men don't really have a "wall" so much as the road they're waking on runs parallel to a cliff with no railing.

Stop working out? Lose your job? Get injured? Do anything to look worse, be less successful, be weak and needy, or otherwise suck at life? You're off the cliff. Climb back up again.

If you're still a badass at 50, you still get laid. You won't find yourself in a serious relationship with many 19 year olds if you tell them your age, but unlike women, your pussy carousel ride can continue for a good bit longer.

[–]CisWhiteMaelstrom 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not really a wall. You hit a peak and decline but the metaphor of a sudden age where you're kicked out of the SMP over the course of a year, or at least made a second class citizen, just doesn't apply.

[–]pinstrap8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No. Men age like whiskey. They get better with age. In terms of personality. There's not necessarily a "wall" for men like there is for women. A woman's body and appearance are pretty much all she's got. Men are sought after by women for different reasons, as I'm sure you know.

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[–]Geleemann1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're correlating baggage with price, then he has a lot of value.

[–]vengefully_yours2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If there is it is well beyond 40.

[–]SexistFlyingPig2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Chuck Norris is 75 and Sylvester Stallone and Arnie are 68.

Though these are the outliers, I'd say there really isn't a wall for men.

[–]6482620 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They're old and passed anything they ever were. If you compare Arnold at his best with Arnold of today it wouldn't even be competition. They have hit the wall, and I would dare to say most women wouldn't touch them except for the BB factor. They have hit the wall - but I have enormous respect for these guys, though most of that is from previous merits.

The wall is nothing more than beyond peak masculinity. You go from geek to adonis and the decline is steady. Maybe we could call it a hill instead of a wall.

Women fall of a cliff at 30 and that's it.

[–]SexistFlyingPig0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Arnold and those other bodybuilders have no problems pulling tail. I imagine there's plenty of 21 year old with daddy issues who would love the validation of sex with someone they think is famous.

[–]6482620 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, but no matter how you twist and turn on this it will be less 21 year olds interested now than in their prime.

[–]TheRealMewt1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not in the same sense as a woman. Men don't inflate their SMV and don't quite get "baby fever" quite like women do, but a man will go past his prime one day. Depending on how well they take care of themselves, they can hit their prime during their 50s and, in some rare circumstances, go further beyond. At the same time, a man can potentially hit his prime during his senior year in high school.

I believe the wall for men is more akin to circumstance rather than biology since we measure our SMV on more than just our looks and our fertility.

[–]silver_nuke13 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not in the same sense as a woman.

Never implied that. Only if there is 'a' wall.

I believe the wall for men is more akin to circumstance rather than biology since we measure our SMV on more than just our looks and our fertility.

Yes, it makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

[–]smokingmonkey420 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Unless you are in the top 5-10% or so then absolutely yes. This goes against TRP but people pretty much date within a few years of their own age. Very few 35 year olds are going to be pulling 18 year olds. Not that it doesn't happen but it's much less common.

[–]SexistFlyingPig2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The thing is a guy can always just start going to the gym and watching what he eats. If he puts in the time, he can't always look better.

There's really nothing a 40 year old woman can do to top a 20 year old.

[–]1RPSigmaStigma2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Very few 35 year olds are going to be pulling 18 year olds.

Very few 35 year olds can even pull women their own age without playing the Better Beta role. Fuck this whole "top 5-10%" bullshit. Women are aroused by behavior, i.e., Game.

[–]smokingmonkey420 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And SMV. Let's face it. For most guys it's on the decline past 35.

Just saying it's not typical for a 35 year old and an 18-21 year old to start a serious relationship. No matter how good your game is.

[–]1RPSigmaStigma2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not typical

and

No matter how good your game is.

are contradictory statements. Yes, I agree it's not typical, but neither is good game. So, you see...

[–]MrEiffel 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

few 35 year olds are going to be pulling 18 year olds.

LOL, guess i'm not human

[–]redditarcm89 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He's making a rule that is supposed to cover all men, but RP men are head and shoulders above the rest. Sure, being an average guy (not taking care of your body, getting lazy, being in a stagnant profession, etc) you would experience a wall where you can no longer consider yourself in the ranks of men in their peak. If you're a RPer though, and take it seriously, I'd say 55 is the point where you stop being able to pass as 25-30, even with proper self-care.

[–]MrEiffel 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The only wall that exists is in your mind. With age it certainly becomes more of an uphill battle, but that's all

[–]redditarcm89 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not saying guys above 55 can't pull the same amount of ass, but at that point everyone will know you're old despite any efforts. At 40, with proper care, you could fit in with a group of 20yos and they wouldn't be any the wiser.

[–]MrEiffel 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't fucking try to "fit" with the cool kids at 30+ lol, everyone will notice and you'd be a joke.

Be your age, regardless wether it's 30 or 55. Women will come to you regardless. And true from the young age bracket will most likely only those with a fetish for older men, but there a plenty.

[–]Nodeal_reddit0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Especially thanks to Viagra and TRT.

[–]Jessie_James0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 46 and will happily point out that I'm going out with our 21 yo babysitter tonight.

Wall? I don't see any signs of it yet.

[–]throw_em_all 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was going to say when your dick retires, but then I remembered Viagra and TRT.

[–]Metalaggeddon 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Not the same way there isn't.

My grandad died at 90,banging 30 year Olds. Not a single one got a cent.

Why? He was still cutting down and splitting trees on his property until 80 something. He still walked to get groceries, he took a world cruise every year, he is from a family of mad money, he was alpha as holy fuck.

My dad is the same though married, my mom taught me a third of my rp upbringing and she's more brutal than my grandad was.

I'm following their footsteps.

"the world is mine. It just doesn't know that yet"

Stay in shape. Succeed. Make stacks. Set boundaries. Call bullshit. Always improve. Staying the same is losing, anything less than pushing yourself is losing. Settling is losing.

The male wall is to stop improving yourself before death. The female wall is biological only.

[–]afroose0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm surprised that no one said it.women from 16 to 26 prefer older men so it should be our "wall". Women hit their wall at 30 because men in their 30s prefer women in their early 20s.

So men actually quit the wall.

[–]cmiovino1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Men don't have a wall because our value it's 90% based on our looks. Sure, it is somewhat based on looks, but if you lift and eat right, you should be in the top 20% rather easily past 35.

Women hit the wall because roughly 90% of their value is base on their physical looks. This inevitably declines around age 30, give or take.

Ironically, men seem to increase in value because our SMV is based on things like income, wealth, status, experiences, wisdom, etc... all of which increase with age.

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