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"How women are bearing the brunt of the male loneliness epidemic"

FallingSeventh

November 12, 2024
212 upvotes
/r/MensRights

Seen this on LinkedIn today. Absolutely comical at this point.

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Title "How women are bearing the brunt of the male loneliness epidemic"
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FallingSeventh

Upvotes 212
Comments 35
Date November 12, 2024 3:38 AM UTC
(1 year ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1gpboss/how_women_are_bearing_the_brunt_of_the_male/
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[–]Number-Thirteen 167 points168 points169 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Has real "women are the real victims of war" energy. How can someone say/write something like that with a straight face?

[–]Able-Brief-4062 69 points70 points71 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My son's history teacher seriously tried saying it.

Not sure how that went.

[–]Current_Finding_4066 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Easy. Feminist thinking = men oppressors, women oppressed. When you reach a conclusion that negates this, look for another explanation.

[–]Grand-Juggernaut6937 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s engagement bait. Then because of how much attention it gets, tons of women believe it because their sense of right and wrong is entirely dependent on what seems to be popular.

Viral manufactured consent has basically ruined public discourse.

[–]Rad_Knight 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For every mother who loses a son, so does a father. For every daughter who loses a father, so does a son. For every wife who loses a husband, several men lose their lives.

[–]AnFGhoster 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just saw one of the default subs peddling this, without a hint of irony or self-awareness, about the Ukraine war.

How 90 something percent of refugees in Moldova were women therefore it was a women's issue.

Ignoring how the men are prevented from leaving because they need to be used as cannon fodder.

[–]monkeyninja6969 121 points122 points123 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Men suffering, women most affected. 🤡🌎

[–]lazyfllagnii 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's true, haven't you seen tweets by UN Women - 1 in 4 suicide victims are women, women are the real victims of war, Of all journalists killed in 2021, 11% were women. In 2020, this was 6%.

How can UN be wrong.

[–]kochIndustriesRussia 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clown fucking shoes lol

[–]DeadWinterDays9 91 points92 points93 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Woman opens up: “Men are supposed to be there for them at all times and listen to their every word or else they are terrible people.”

Man opens up: “Women are not your therapists. Go back in your basement, loser incel!”

[–]IlIIlIIIlIl 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Furthermore, women love to dig into your past so you'll always open up unless you lie to them.

[–]HollowHusk1 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is it hard to say you just hate men and view us as objects? Seriously is it that fucking hard?

[–]Huffers1010 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To be fair (fairer than they deserve) they honestly wouldn't see it like that.

You can call it cognitive dissonance, and you might be right, but I suspect that most of this stuff comes from one person's individual experiences, which they're generalising completely grotesquely into every guy in existence. I suspect if you addressed your question the author of this, you'd get a "oh not everyone is like that," which is about the most ringingly ironic response possible in the context of not-all-men, but I suspect that's what she'd come out with.

The problem is that generalising about men, particularly straight white men, has been so normal for so long that people just can't see the fnords anymore.

[–]RoryTate 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

they're generalising completely grotesquely into every guy in existence.

I'm starting to think there's also a lot of the Apex Fallacy involved in how this happens, even more than I ever thought possible. An incredible number of "man-hating"/"anti-male" news articles exist online with images prominently displayed of what I would describe as "frat boys", and/or they include descriptions and terminology that almost always focus singularly on a kind of rich, elite, high status, post-secondary-attending young man.

Of course, this pattern is no coincidence. It makes some sense considering the human sexual marketplace. The lower class of males – the nerds, art majors, computer geeks, etc – at universities are invisible to women, despite making up 90+% of the male population there, because they aren't really seen as potential mates.

Authors of articles/posts like this one from OP simply leverage that kind of cognitive "trick", by using this narrow focus to manipulate their readers. So it isn't really a generalization, and therefore no cognitive dissonance results, because this small subset of the "top 10%" of men is literally all they see.

I'm sure many of us have had that awkward conversation as a young man, where a girl you know just casually spouts off some extremely insulting and narrow-minded statement about all men, and you try to correct her:

"Wait a minute. What about all the guys who just go to class in silence, or do their jobs quietly, and don't ever treat you that badly?"

"Oh." There's a clear moment of surprise as their brains register the existence of these low-status men. "Well, of course I didn't mean them when I said: 'All men are pigs'."

Maybe I should have considered the possibility that what they were really meaning to say was: "All the men I find desirable are pigs."

[–]AbysmalDescent 45 points46 points47 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Men are victims of increasingly unwelcoming, unfriendly and intolerant women, women also most affected.

[–]SprintAtharva 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean isn't someone being unwelcome a clear indication that they don't want to do anything with you

[–]AbysmalDescent 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that is generally how prejudice works.

[–]jessi387 48 points49 points50 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s funny cuz, I remember an article titled “ should women care about the male loneliness epidemic”… well now they do , because it’s effecting them ?

This is pretty much the slogan in this group at this point. You’ll care, once it affects you, and trust me, it always does .

[–]AdSpecial7366 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't understand the obsession of making everything about women. Why can't they ever sympathize with men?

[–]wordjedi 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's not brush aside how hard so many women work, for some fucking reason, to isolate their partners from their old friends. We've all experienced it. After the wedding you see your friends less and less, "too busy", even if they don't have kids yet.

An old friend of mine, who I hadn't seen much literally since the wedding, had his wife rush up with some trivial shit and drag him off, when we were catching up at some social event for like two minutes. It's was comical.

Women know what the fuck they're doing, then they add it to their list of things women do better than men and brag about it: "get out more and socialize loser!"

[–]chadgalaxy 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every relationship I've ever been in with a woman I've been expected to sit there and listen to them dump all their trauma and insecurities and issues on me all day every day.

Now they're expected to do the same and they're losing their minds. Literally 60% of being in a relationship with a woman is wrangling their fragile emotional states.

[–]mypreciousssssssss 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh ffs

[–]randomsantas 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men suffering, women most affected.

[–]TiredOldGrunt412 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even when they're the problem, they still play the victim.

[–]alter_furz 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are bearing the brunt every day.

up and down, up and down on another Chad's cock

jokes aside, though, they have a support network and hotlines and all that jazz. they have somebody to turn to when their cat dies and boxed wine prices skyrocket.

[–]aigars2 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🤣🤣🤣

[–]BeepBeepYeah7789 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women who did (or who would) throw men under the bus did this to themselves.

And the women who didn't or wouldn't are just collateral damage.

[–]vegatx40 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of Hilary botching about how women bear the bring of their husbands getting killed in war

[–]AndreasDasos 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember the articles on how women were bearing the brunt of COVID, because more men were in hospital and dying but more women were nurses. 👍

Also, so many articles on how women bear the brunt of men dying younger because then women have to make their pensions last longer. 👍

And per Hillary Clinton:

Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.

They can’t possibly be human and that stupid, right? It takes a half second’s rational thought to laugh at the absurdity. Are radical feminist brains that different? After all, women are the compassionate, reasonable and less entitled sex, I gather.

Similar school of “thought” to ‘Oh no, 1 in 5 murder victims is women - a culture of violence specifically against women!’, ‘Women are committing suicide at a higher rate than before! Let’s focus only on that [and not the fact it’s still triple men’s rate]’, ‘More men are homeless but more women are homeless with a child!’, ‘Let’s focus on black women killed by police violence in the US too [still a lower rate than white men]’, etc. etc.

[–]darthsyn 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's always about them somehow. You can almost hear them laughing. No wonder men can't get the help they need.

[–]iPatrickDev -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a man myself, I was able to ask professional help any time I needed in the past. Whether if it's professional or friends (male and female alike).

How were you rejected when actively asking for help you described here you need? What happened exactly? What issues you were looking for help with, and from whom?

[–]Isair81 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

”Giant meteor hits earth, wipes out most of human civilization… women most affected.”

[–]randonumero 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe instead of asking a group of men, ask the women in your lives how they feel about it. One thing I hear from women with young adult sons is some feel like failures as moms.

One lady I talked to has a 25 year old son who has moved back home. He won't talk to women and he won't go with her to social functions at her church or to fellowship with other young men. She's in her 60s and her ex-husband has a new family so doesn't talk much with his son. Her big fear is that when she dies her son will die alone in the house. She said some of her church and volunteer friends with unmarried sons are going through similar things.

One woman my age has a brother in his early 30s. He has had one girlfriend in his adult life and it crashed out bad. He didn't go to college or trade school because he was making "good money" doing semi skilled construction. In his late 20s he was laid off and lived with their parents. In his early 30s he lived with her and her husband for a bit but they had to put him out because of his behavior. Now he's back with his parents and they're pretty fed up with him but don't want to put him out. He's still barely working and won't do anything to improve himself. Apparently his dad, a veteran, got a recruiter to come by the house to talk to him and he went on a rant about how he'll never join because certain people get ahead there. So he's upset, lonely, isolated...but unwilling to work on himself and willing to make the people around him miserable.

I think that a lot of adult men who are isolated, lonely...still have some family who is trying to support them or who has supported them. I don't think that family is being the brunt of what's going on but they're definitely in many cases carrying some of the emotional load

[–]ToastyPillowsack 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, this post could've been about me

[–]Ok-Dot-5343 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They really make everything about themselves

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