How can we convince women to challenge misandry?

Skirt_Douglas · 2025-07-28T17:17:16+00:00

Just stand your ground, keep the message up, don’t back down.

I think we are more likely to convince the younger women growing up noticing the toxic environment ruined by the feminist gender war they are growing up in, rather than sway the women your age who double down that they have the “right” to toxify the social environment.

But that means hold steady, Hold frame, don’t stop speaking your truth.

blackmamba4554 · 2025-07-28T19:01:05+00:00

I have a theory that cisgender women having sons and brothers have more sympathy for men. But this theory is being challenging lately.

Cunari · 2025-07-28T16:30:37+00:00

First you have to convince people to care about other people as a whole rather than just trying to get other people to work harder. Usually programs for disabled and “Marginalized groups” are about getting them to work harder. There is a big anti empathy movement going on now

Sydnaktik · 2025-07-28T07:51:34+00:00

That's a pretty compelling perspective.

"They must liberate themselves from their feminine insecurities"

Can you give examples of these insecurities?

BhryaenDagger · 2025-07-28T20:57:48+00:00

They need to recognize that casually hating men is the polar opposite of the Civil Right Era. Bigotry and hating people based on their race, sex, or sexuality have to be intolerable in any form- mutually exclusive w social equality and even sustainable civil rights. Pick a bear over a human being (disingenuously or no), and you’re part of the problem. Until that time there’s no progress to be made- only progress to be lost- and if that time happens they’ll either try to preserve feminism by reforming it w an explicit ruling out of misandry or they’ll abandon feminism for a more comprehensive approach and perspective. At the moment the feminist error is the elephant in the room.

_WutzInAName_ · 2025-07-28T12:45:40+00:00

I would frame it this way: we value equal rights for men and women, and feminism threatens both men and women. Feminism never ceases in demanding more for women at the expense of men. It neglects and abuses men.

This is ultimately dangerous for women too, because if feminists get their way, society becomes completely gynocentric. Men won’t defend or work hard for a society like that, and may turn against it, leading to its decline and collapse. As the African proverb says, “The child who is abandoned by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.”

If women go along with misandrist feminists who demand everything for women, they could end up with nothing. Look at the big picture: a system that treats both men and women fairly is better and more sustainable for both.

EDIT: The system isn't letting me reply to PsycheTester right now, so here's a copied and pasted version of the comment I was trying to post:

The framing isn't wrong, it's meant to appeal to women who haven't become completely brainwashed by feminism. The feminist responses you've shared are propaganda that do not reflect reality and are easily proven wrong by the data, some of which I've linked to in the responses below.

Re: "Men have become so used to their privilege that they see removing their privilege to restore equality as oppression against them."

Men don't have nearly as many rights or privileges as women. Take almost any quality of life metric (or quantity of life), and women come out ahead, because our laws and institutions cater overwhelmingly to women.

Re: "It's not feminism that hurts them, it's the patriarchy, which feminism fights against. Also, it's not the duty of the oppressed to comfort their oppressors."

Feminism exists, but patriarchy doesn't exist in the developed world today. Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it." However, most of the people at the bottom of society are men.

Note that "[men] are much more likely to be incarcerated, to be shot by the police, to be a victim of violent crime, to be homeless, to commit suicide, and to die on the job or in combat than women. Furthermore, they have a shorter life expectancy and are less likely to be college educated than women."

The majority of the few people at the top may happen to be men, but that does not mean men are in charge. There is a difference. That tiny percentage of men at the top got there with the support of men and women. Women make up the majority of voters. Those who believe in the lie of the patriarchy fail to understand the apex fallacy.

Re: "As if women existing within androcentric society for millennia have ever caused its collapse. "Men are seriously saying that they are perfectly capable of upturning the societal order, but don't do that as long as they are on top? But they will do that the moment any change for the betterment of women is instituted? All the more reason to take the power away from them."

Men are not on top. Society is gynocentric, not androcentric, and our culture reflects the "women are wonderful effect" throughout. Numerous studies have demonstrated that bias.

From the Myth of Pervasive Misogny: "Indeed, numerous reports over the past few decades have shown that people have more sympathy for female than male suffering. For just a few examples, people are less willing to harm a female than a male, women receive more help than men, those who harm women are punished more severely than those who harm men, and women are punished less severely than men for the same crimes."

Ekhoi · 2025-08-01T16:59:40+00:00

Honestly, I don’t agree with that last paragraph. It sounds like pandering bullshit, the same thing feminists try to do to us. What we need to do is continue to keep speaking our truths. There is nothing inherently toxic about demanding equal treatment of men, and some women and liberals are siding with us because they also see injustice in our society. As long as we don’t cross the line where we start blaming all women, the way that feminism blames all men, we will see results on this front in due time.

MonkeyUseBrain · 2025-07-28T21:01:35+00:00

As a man you would think logic and facts would prevail but that doesn't work if the person you are talking to is irrational...

Honestly, I think it would be better if society and men just took corrective action instead of explaining to women why they should change, sorry to say.

2025-07-29T23:32:19+00:00

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Former_Range_1730 · 2025-07-29T01:24:53+00:00

There's a demographic of women who already do. Unfortunately most men don't recognize it.

SuperMario69Kraft · 2025-07-28T13:44:23+00:00

It is easier to tell women to start not talking about feminism with men to maintain a debate.

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