Why more men than women die by suicide — BBC

randomusername1934 · 2025-08-08T07:55:30+00:00

"Why are men struggling – and what can be done about it?"
proceeds to recite the mantra that 'men must be taught to cry and show their emotions' as if it were the magic bullet solution to the entire problem

I don't know what I was expecting, but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see that coming from the BBC.

TheNittanyLionKing · 2025-08-08T12:48:02+00:00

When a woman is struggling, everyone falls over themselves to help her and accomodate. When a man is struggling, he is almost entirely on his own and has to seek out help if he needs it

Shinra_tenseiiiiii · 2025-08-08T09:34:55+00:00

I strongly believe it’s due to the fact there are less and less men spaces where men can simply be men, coupled with the fact that a lot of men don’t have and won’t ever discover their purpose in life. We’ve been indoctrinated to care for others more(especially women) when we should prioritise our needs first and get ourselves right before going out to the world and help others.

Francis_Dollar_Hide · 2025-08-08T19:36:51+00:00

The quote I think fits best here:

"Women attempt suicide as a cry for help, men attempt suicide because they know theres no help coming."

cybernd · 2025-08-08T13:21:01+00:00

Sorry, can't remember the source. From my memory:

Males self exit is often not caused by depression. The cause is more likely hopelessness. The final path is thus chosen based on a rational logical decision.

That's why I think /u/Shinra_tenseiiiiii is correct. Male spaces can help men to find their hope/purpose again.

63daddy · 2025-08-08T13:55:57+00:00

An interesting point the article makes that I haven’t seen addressed before is insurance and the related access to services.

Often, a couple is insured through the man’s work insurance. If the wife gets depressed (or has other mental health issues) and loses her job, she’s still insured under his policy so can access counseling and other services. If the man gets depressed and loses his job, he is much more likely to lose access to those services.

The_London_Badger · 2025-08-08T17:28:05+00:00

Women attempt suicide for attention, men do it to die. Women's suicides are mostly just tantrums, men's are despair and given up life.

Women, I'm gonna cut or take pills and ring 999.

Men, in gonna go jump off a bridge into traffic or a building and break my neck.

Men are superior at suicide attempts trope aside.

Ozhubdownunder · 2025-08-08T20:47:04+00:00

Do women attempt suicide more or self harm. One intends to die. The other doesn’t

KorolSmert · 2025-08-08T09:03:03+00:00

Because women can depend on men emotionally and most men, stable or not fundamentally respond positively and become more engaged when they are explicitly and genuinel feel needed. That's one way among the way we men are wired to feel loved, valued, purposeful, and invigorated. It brings the best in men when they feel and are genuinely needed.

This is one reason why men will always prefer and are attracted to women who are submissive and dependent on him. That's how we feel valued and respected. It isn't the calling the shots or bringing in the dough that makes him alpha.

Men are valued for the sacrifices they make and the service they provide.

inevitable_dave · 2025-08-08T09:05:05+00:00

Not a bad article, especially around the conclusion that men and women are different and shouldn't necessarily be studied together.

Granted, there's the usual part of men not opening up or talking about things, which is a major issue but the reason why isn't explored as much, and the standard onus on men to sort themselves out, but I'm not expecting perfect from a bbc article.

Most-Inflation-4370 · 2025-08-08T10:38:57+00:00

And women will still complain and get what th we y want

2025-08-08T17:19:41+00:00

Women's value is intrinsic, men's value is attached to what they can bring. The pressure is constant and neverending. There are no support groups and the society is very missandric.

EmbarrassedNerve1299 · 2025-08-09T22:47:16+00:00

in my opinion it's a deliberate and manipulative androcide put on by feminism. Support and stand up for your fellow man

slashcleverusername · 2025-08-08T14:51:50+00:00

I’m sure there’s an issue in offering men help when they’re struggling too, almost like it’s “politer” not to notice or draw attention to it because it could be taken as harsh judgment. It’s almost like a Monty Python sketch. “Oh, is that a tiger bite? I hadn’t noticed!”

TripleGDawg87 · 2025-08-08T16:25:56+00:00

There are a lot of very good points here about how society can endanger men's mental health, but the question isn't 'why are men depressed?'. The question is, 'why do men successfully kill themselves far more regularly than women, who merely attempt to kill themselves?' For me, the answer is simple. Killer instinct. Men are simply better at killing. 9 out of 10 murders are done by men. Suicide is homicide of the self. Women try to kill themselves but don't have enough testosterone. Elliott Smith, a singer-songwriter, committed suicide by stabbing himself in the chest. I can't imagine many women doing that.

Adventurous-Day-529 · 2025-08-12T06:15:57+00:00

I read that women attempt more often to kill themseves than men, but faile much more often because of the way they do it. Women will more take a lot of pills and men use more violent way of dying. That's why men are "better" at suicide

Quiet-Invite-7540 · 2025-08-08T15:43:03+00:00

Men have less of a support system and are more lead to feel like failures when someone they do don’t work out. Thats what cases it. Women have much more support and affirmations to make them feel good.

umenu · 2025-08-08T10:21:08+00:00

Because men need to be men and are forbidden to have feelings because they're no real men when they have other feelings than aggression. That's how people react to men, that's the reason my father self canceled and here there are Muppets who believe this whole article is misandrist because he believes it says men just need to learn to cry.....no you accident that should've ended in handkerchief, it's because you have toxic masculinity ruining it for real men and nobody is looking for solutions. Seriously, where's is the activism in MRA? Complain about shit and you hope it magically just ends on itself? Just complaining not brainstorming about finding solutions, just empty complaints. Tf. You can keep it all just nice and tight in your echo chamber jerkcirkle not looking for solutions or telling how people can do it better. It. Will. Change. Nothing.

Title	Why more men than women die by suicide — BBC
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Date	August 8, 2025 7:44 AM UTC (11 months ago)
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